It's kinda funny how at first I thought I broke my piston when the second to last tooth that connects to the sector gear broke off but now I realize it's just the first step to upgrading the performance of the piston that just happened by chance
Man you have the BEST quality airsoft gun building videos. They are very clear, straight forward, and you know exactly what you are doing and do it amazingly! Your videos really helped a lot i just wished that you would do more videos! :D
Decrease in fps, as the piston is held further back than it would be normally meaning that there is less distance for the piston to travel thus less air being pushed out of the cylinder.
I think the ones i use are about 5mm thick. If you buy sorbo from an airsoft site that has already been cut it will usually do, I use a small piece of rubber (as shown in the videos) on top of the sorbo to make any small adjustments. Remember that the piston needs to engage the gears at the 12 o'clock position, use enough sorbo to push the piston back to this position. Hope that helps. AT
In the US: Clandestine airsoft do them, scatterplot I think is the make. In the UK: Air-lab airsoft do them, they are well made and have a plastic buffer pre attached to them.
CptBeardo: No it actually decreases pressure to single teeth. Angle of engagement in stock AEG's are rarely correct. Correct angle of engagement means that the first tooth of the sector gear hits flush with the back tooth of the piston. But in stock AEG's it rarely hits flush but at a bad angle (where just the corner of the sector gear tooth hits the back tooth of the piston). This means LESS surface area takes the brunt of the pressure involved. Meaning increased risk of sector gear teeth breaking. With correct angle of engagement however, there is a bigger surface area of the first tooth absorbing the impact. Meaning a decreased risk of sector gear teeth failing.
Great video! But, I didn't understand why move to step 6 and others. Seems like your piston gear and main gear are properly engaged on a good angle I mean, if you only remove the 2 pins from the piston, is it necessary the next step? why?
I have just started watching GB tutorials but why do you correct the AoE? Is it to prevent a worn out piston or is your gun/feed malfunctioning? The reason why i ask is that i'm looking for a way to decrease FPS without changing my already low M90 spring. If it's just for finetuning i would do this.
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone 3d printing some spacers to go between the piston head and the piston body - Fairly easy to make your own, but some properly measured and cut ones would sell for sure I imagine
These are being sold by multiple vendors. FPSairsoft makes some nylon spacers. I used them and they work perfectly and i don't have to mess with 2 litres of glue and a thick ass lump of rubber.
I NEED some assistance/advise putting in an M170 spring. Me, my dad, and my buddy all working together trying to shove the spring in (just a few inches) to the gearbox can't get it in. Should I cut a few of the coils or not since this is a DSG build? Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
every time u cut the spring to shorten it, the spring will go down in power, eg. it turns into a m160/m150/m140 spring the more u cut it so u might just wana use those springs, but to get a m170 in, is suggest using a vise and a nice grippy screwdriver in the end of the house rod as u install it like the vid, or knot the spring using a silky ribbon u can untie and pull out the gap in ur gearbox after its clamped shut
+GhostHawk76 lmao whatever u say I got about 4 aegs iv done that too to bring them to cqb fps for my local field, I'm the techy dude in the group so iv done this to many friends aegs too.... we pitched on a chrono to its physically making a diff that we can see
It's kinda funny how at first I thought I broke my piston when the second to last tooth that connects to the sector gear broke off but now I realize it's just the first step to upgrading the performance of the piston that just happened by chance
hahaha
This is called evolution
Man you have the BEST quality airsoft gun building videos. They are very clear, straight forward, and you know exactly what you are doing and do it amazingly! Your videos really helped a lot i just wished that you would do more videos! :D
Decrease in fps, as the piston is held further back than it would be normally meaning that there is less distance for the piston to travel thus less air being pushed out of the cylinder.
More glue please
ROFL, im so happy that this is the first comment xD
I think the ones i use are about 5mm thick. If you buy sorbo from an airsoft site that has already been cut it will usually do, I use a small piece of rubber (as shown in the videos) on top of the sorbo to make any small adjustments. Remember that the piston needs to engage the gears at the 12 o'clock position, use enough sorbo to push the piston back to this position.
Hope that helps.
AT
Subscribed from this vid :) Seen hundreds of airsoft tutorials on RUclips, your collection is the best :)
"You may only need to remove half of the first tooth on the ladder", proceeds to remove the entire tooth.
In the US: Clandestine airsoft do them, scatterplot I think is the make.
In the UK: Air-lab airsoft do them, they are well made and have a plastic buffer pre attached to them.
Interesting, but that bloody music ! 😢
I notify you just so that this music can haunt you again
What's the propose of this? What effect does it have on performance? What affect does it have on reliability?
+Dan Fitz Simply put, increases the life of your AEG by taking pressure off of vital gearbox components.
Taking pressure off? More like increasing pressure to single teeth.
What?
CptBeardo: No it actually decreases pressure to single teeth.
Angle of engagement in stock AEG's are rarely correct. Correct angle of engagement means that the first tooth of the sector gear hits flush with the back tooth of the piston. But in stock AEG's it rarely hits flush but at a bad angle (where just the corner of the sector gear tooth hits the back tooth of the piston). This means LESS surface area takes the brunt of the pressure involved.
Meaning increased risk of sector gear teeth breaking.
With correct angle of engagement however, there is a bigger surface area of the first tooth absorbing the impact. Meaning a decreased risk of sector gear teeth failing.
Great video! But, I didn't understand why move to step 6 and others.
Seems like your piston gear and main gear are properly engaged on a good angle
I mean, if you only remove the 2 pins from the piston, is it necessary the next step? why?
It's the one I used in the cutting a spring tutorial, i think it was an m190 so not something I use often
Yea I knew it was the one you cut but that spring will lose some length overtime and it is less length than the gearbox.
I have just started watching GB tutorials but why do you correct the AoE? Is it to prevent a worn out piston or is your gun/feed malfunctioning?
The reason why i ask is that i'm looking for a way to decrease FPS without changing my already low M90 spring.
If it's just for finetuning i would do this.
i bet his mum went mad when she saw all the glue he'd just poured all over her lovely dinner table.
oi mate its a bloody beautiful day innit
Thanks! Ill try to do my best to get some out ASAP. Got a few that just need editing together.
Cheers
AT
What width SORBO pads are you using? how do you determine what width to use???
Doesn't doing this decrease FPS? Spring spacers can be used to fix that problem if you didn't know.
Isn't the spring on backwards? I know it's proven that it doesn't affect fps, but no tests were made for motor stress.
Holy crud man, you cut enough of that spring off?
man bruno powroznik is really into airsoft
Couldn't the FPS loss be countered by using a stiffer/higher guage spring?
Does shortening the faucet washer work as well?
Where could i get that protective covering for the sorbo pad and the piston head?
does anyone now what the size for the Sorbothane sizes are ???
On Airsplat.com, they sell 1/8", 1/4" and 3/16" for like 5$
It makes no sense for me to put those protections
Yes or a spacer or two
Or 1mm rubber
Isnt in the market a "multiple lenght" piston head to achieve perfect AOE just moving a screw? Nobody invented this?
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone 3d printing some spacers to go between the piston head and the piston body - Fairly easy to make your own, but some properly measured and cut ones would sell for sure I imagine
@@TutonWolf Yes! I imagined the same solution, sounds complety logical but never seen it.
These are being sold by multiple vendors. FPSairsoft makes some nylon spacers. I used them and they work perfectly and i don't have to mess with 2 litres of glue and a thick ass lump of rubber.
Hey you should use more glue.
Where do you buy your pads and sorbo?
the aoe is corrected too far backyou should of used less sorbo
i thing it needs more glue more more more glue...
I NEED some assistance/advise putting in an M170 spring. Me, my dad, and my buddy all working together trying to shove the spring in (just a few inches) to the gearbox can't get it in. Should I cut a few of the coils or not since this is a DSG build? Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
every time u cut the spring to shorten it, the spring will go down in power, eg. it turns into a m160/m150/m140 spring the more u cut it so u might just wana use those springs, but to get a m170 in, is suggest using a vise and a nice grippy screwdriver in the end of the house rod as u install it like the vid, or knot the spring using a silky ribbon u can untie and pull out the gap in ur gearbox after its clamped shut
+Mohammed Moinuddin Not necessary, the KWA m120 spring short but gives 410 FPS while the Guarder SP100 longer but give you 340~350 FPS
But cutting a spring in general would further reduce fps is wat I was tryna point out
+Mohammed Moinuddin Not apply on all guns, in logic Yes in practical No..
+GhostHawk76 lmao whatever u say I got about 4 aegs iv done that too to bring them to cqb fps for my local field, I'm the techy dude in the group so iv done this to many friends aegs too.... we pitched on a chrono to its physically making a diff that we can see
is this work??
Look up NEOPRENE on ebay 1mm should do.
building tae
don't do this put shims between the piston head and piston its way better and more durable