395BHP! Is this the perfect 3.0 TDI spec? Audi A5 V2
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2020
- Now with 395bhp & 580ft/lbs could this be the prefect spec for a daily 3.0 TDI?
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Best advertising you can do is these videos. I'll have to glue my wallet shut!
The sound is amazing! Awesome work... this is a perfect daily
Goes like a rocket...you’d scare plenty of so called super cars with that now.. love that engine and exhaust note..impressive results as always... goes like a scalded cat!
Passenger ride when we are back at Donington!
New Darkside video,new LIKE👍It's that simple!!!
Another awesome instalment love the level of detail you go into, can't wait to get you to do mine
Very helpful bro...I'm in the market for one of these and seriously considering tuning it...very informative...if I could give u a medal for your vids I would 🥇🥇🥇
👏🏻 slightly different to when I saw it last year, that’s going to catch a lot of people sleeping off the lights 👌🏻
This makes me want an A5!
Love it! I've got a b8 model and would love it in a similar spec!
I had an eco map on my a4 143bhp b8 audi. It now has 168bhp and 272ft-lb, and feels much quicker. But this A5 is something else, it's crazy fast.
Nice going lads
Omg! So jealous! 😁😁 I hope to have mine at these numbers too.
reyt then. epic intro, that thing moves!!
Darkside are going to make me skint. I have a 2009 3.0tdi because of there videos.
Same 😂
Amazing good job
Very nice acceleration.
Would love to see if you guys can get ahold of the new S6 TDI
That is madness 👌🏻
Probably only diesel I would have.
I like the way they sound. Maybe I should get one for a daily lol
Nice one 👍
Lookin at this, you could probably do some wonders with my A8 D3 4.2 Tdi :).
I would love you guys to do the same with a 3liter Bmw! F30 330d I would definitely be sending it your way!
What is needed to get to that power!!! 😊 that's insane!!
Got a full spec list here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/audi-a5-b8-3-0-tdi-cr245-cduc/
Just superb......
Hi: Ryan
Absolutely love the channel and love the A5 V1 vlogs amazing what you guys achieved with this car :)
A quick question l was watching the play list on the car the last few days and l think you mentioned in a vlog cant remember which one, who you guys use (company) for your track days and l am after looking and looking and i cant find it ??
Circuit Days are the best!
@@DarksideDevelopments Hi: Thanks for the speedy reply yeah they have some great deals there :)
Hi ryan, quick question. Will you ever start offering complete tuning packages on the website?
We started to and people just asked to change bits all the time, the spec lists are on the website with links to every product
Hey. I love what you did. I have a 2015 Q7 Tdi. I’d love to do these upgrades to my car. Now. I do live in the states. Would that be a problem to get these mods done to my Q7?
We can work something out, drop us an email!
Yes boys yes
Holy shit that hauls arse 🔥🔥 are these the same engine as in the 7L Touareg?
Pretty much!
How did you get 1st gear to actually work? Mine never pulls hard in 1st, it'll use 1st to get moving, switch to 2nd then take off. No matter how much throttle I use.
its in the tuning
Wow, I’ve got a ‘13 Sq5 bitdi which is remapped to 380 bhp and 595 lbft and I’m wondering what you guys could do with that? Eg what hardware you would suggest, as I’ve not changed anything other than had it remapped. I would be very interested in upgrading it if poss.
Please email and we can discuss, we have a bigger turbo setup for these now!
It's the same audi like last year?? 0-200kmh time?
Awesome work, please advise if theres a upgrade metering sensor for my BMW R90 CP3 pump? Am already running the pressure sensor upgrade.. please advise on metering upgrade, many thanks
We can source one but BMW already has quite a large valve!
Darkside Developments many thanks for your response, looking forward to more diesel development.. I remember following your posts on the tdi club forum where you started off exporting golf mk4 6 speed transmission sets to the USA! Look at you lads now! Very happy for you darkside!! Absolutely love it! Nothing beats hard work! Well done and all the best;)
i hope you can make a project for the new audi a5 b9 218 HP engine
What happened to the A4 Project I've got an A4 B8 2.0 TDI and wondering if I can put a K&N cone filter in it just for that sound most people say not to put a cone filter in a diesel is that right.iv got a K&N panal filter in it
Crap gearbox so stuck at 300hp! K&N dont belong near an engine!
Alreet.. I'm tuning my a4 b7 3.0tdi and I'm restricted on the rail pressure.. it's got cp3 pump and has new injectors.. the original engine was a 204 bkn but now has a 239 newer b7 engine.. I'm going into limp mode after 1700bar rail pressure so was wondering if one of your 2200 RPS would sort it out or would it be restricted on the 204 ECU? Thanks
Must have a problem somewhere, those injectors don't like a lot of RP
Wanting to get an a7 3.0tdi is it the same engine/gearbox as the a5 in this video? Could I use the same, hardware/mods to get the same power figures?
Depending which model but most are similar but not the same, should do similar with similar mods!
Jst curious what power figures you can get from a sq5 bitdi, without upgrading intercooler
The intercooler is crap so its not worth tuning without IMO. 360-380hp
I have an A4 3.0 (272PS) TDI, that I will be giving to you guys for a remap and maybe a few more mods at some point later in the year. Got to service it soon, do you recommend and particular oil?
Quantum Long life is what we use
I'd be really interested to see the gains from a remap etc, as I have the same car. Keep us updated!
I was thinking, with the clutch/flywheel not liking the extra power..would a solid-mass/racing clutch be possible?..and also the gearbox may not be as smooth with a solid-mass, so would a beefed-up Kwik-Shift do the trick?. Also a Wavetrac-Diff to help plant the extra power to the floor....
Fitting a solid flywheel to a DSG is asking for trouble, and the Flywheel does not really limit the power, the clutch does not touch it.
We have Clutch upgrades listed, but we need to see where the limit is first of a stock one.
What is a 'beefed-up Kwik-Shift'?
There is no Wavetrac for this gearbox.
Thanks
Definitely a wolf 🐺 in sheep’s clothing. Fantastic tdi
When's a new ep on this beast coming, Ryan? I'm eagerly waiting! :)
SOON WE HOPE!
How safe is stage 1 on an A5 177bhp manual? Not long had mine and it’s on 94k just worried about the clutch
it will be fine!
Could you do some work on camera on the 3.0 272/215 engines? Preferably the A4 b9 with the 8 speed tiptronic. I wonder how far you can push them engines.
I thought those used the 7 speed dsg?
@@jimmymccain4580 I know I'm late btw, but the 3.0tdi 272 has the 8 speed ZF8 torque converter, too much torque for the dsg.
I'm looking at getting a clean 2015 Audi A6 3.0 tdi as a new daily driver. Can I make some decent power with it doing an exhaust, intake, and tune? At least until I decide to upgrade the turbocharger and fuel system.
Depending on the engine code, you can get between 250-300 on a tune. We have a list of dyno graphs here that you can match up the engine code with - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/dyno-graph-results/
Hey guys, what gains can you expect from an intercooler and standard turbo on an a6 272 quattro?
With stock downpipe we generally see around 310-315bhp
428 ft lbs on my stock A6....and it is a wolf in sheep's clothing indeed. Snaps my head back every time when i get on it. I might consider a new turbo/tune if ever the current stock set up fails. I cruise in it and dont really need much out of my DD....so I see me and this turbo lasting thru my ownership.....I also have a 12 tourag DD, and that thing is at the bottom of the depreciation curve. Similar drive train as the A6 and smaller turbo, 406 ft lbs, but just as devastating on the pavement...i am more willing to experiment on it than the A6....fortunately the turbo was just replaced by the previous owner and I've got at least another 100k of joy before that breaks...if ever.
I’ve got a 2016 Audi 3.0 tdi Quattro 218. Are they reliable just with stage one map?
Hi there!
What can you do with a year 2005 A4 B7 3.0Tdi quattro 150kw manual?
And what would be the prices..roughly?
I have been told that flywheel is a problem for this model..
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can give you a list of everything we can do for these vehicles and advice on issues
Hi darkside I can’t seem to find this package or your website . How much would this cost with fitting . Thanks
Please email - sales@darksidedevelopments.couk
Nice work, most make smile all day. You got a drama job
I mean dream job. Haha
Drama is more like it!
Cold air feed... just thought regards the time lapse/audio, maybe you could do a "blue air" feed vid? Maybe not, anyhow good insight thank you to you all.
they did the flap delete on this, it's cold fed from underneath, you lose about 20mph top end to that limp mode issue they have been having if you add an open filter. the only thing you get from a open filter on these is noise.... I have one and a bigger maf sensor, more hassle than it's worth... actually going back to the stock box tomorrow as it happens
@@Lord_Dazzla which video was this in also is it the air box flap your reffering to
Are these comparable to a 335D/435D? At stage 1, numbers i seem to be looking at seems like a big difference in favour of the BMW, would you need mods like on this A5 for one to keep up with a 335D?
With just a tune a 335d is much quicker, after a turbo swap there is not much in it.
@@DarksideDevelopments thanks for the fast response and info! Can't beat the sound of the audi's v6 which is a big selling point though haha
Could you change the metering valve on a stock vehicle that hasn't been mapped (yet) to the one you mention or would it cause issues if you just have the stock map? Just planning my hardware changes first then going to get you into mapping post covid
Yeah it should be fine to do that.
@@ryanp6138 would it take long to do whilst blanking the EGR & Gutting DPF?
Hi, did you install the valve with stock map? It works fine?
Nice one! Do you know what weight the whole car is?
They are almost 1800kg with driver
Love this car. Let me know when you remove the exhaust 😜
Send money and I'll take it off next week!
Are the gearbox/clutch issues you're having mostly related to the auto box? Is the manual much stronger?
Yes the manual wont have the same issues but its slower with a manual!
@@DarksideDevelopments Myself I would take strength and reliability over gaining a few 10ths of a second in my 0-60 times. Unless you're someone who is regularly going drag racing , I'm not sure 0-60 matters too much while driving in the real world environment.
I don't have issues with the manual. You need to install a heavy duty clutch kit. Stronger pressure plate and a puck clutch. The dual mass flywheel can hold 800+ newton meters. Downgrading to SMF is not recommended, it will idle weird.
What happened with the big Honeywell turbo on the spare engine? 600 hp goal on this one?
Still on the shelf, much more work to fit on the newer engine!
I have a diesel question right here guys ..Should I install a downpipe or re-use the DPF body with the Filter removed from inside.. does the downpipe make more power in this situation ?
With a straight pipe its a little noisier but I doubt power increases much
@@DarksideDevelopments Thank you very much for the answer
Amazing work lads! How much roughly would all of this cost to spec an a5 up to this?
Email us!
@@DarksideDevelopments will do! Has there been any more videos since? Can't seem to find any other than the wrap-up video. So excited to see the performance with the fuel pump change!
We gave it away!
So what.would it take to.get my a5 in manual with CCWA 3.0 to similar figures ? Go already DPF end exhaust mod. Large fmic . Flaps delete. And tune.
Take a look in the spec list!
Hi bro I got same manual CCWA
Did you go ahead with this?
@@uj6284 hi
Not yet. Few months ago bought another house so skimmed again but in near future want to get new bigger turbo and tune from BobbySinghRacing as he is the best in uk when it comes to tune 3.0 tdis
i have same car. how you get those sounds so good?
DPG off and exhaust!
I.ve got a a4 allroad 2013 model 3.0 how much would it cost to get 0-60 in 4 seconds? and more exhaust noise :)
Turbo ,remap ,exhaust(non DPF) ,ETC
Whats a decent brake upgrade for these? Do TTRS/RS3 4 pot calipers fit quite easily?
RS6 or S5 brakes seem to be easiest
Q5/Macan 4 pot.
How much would a setup like this cost? About? Parts labour etc. Very interesting
Drop us an email with your vehicle details and we can quote - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
How many Nm and cp does the 2010 Tiptronic carry?
800nm is where things get a bit tough on them it seems
I have the same engine in a b8 a4. What would it cost to have the same work done by yourself?
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can show you costs including labour
I’m in the market now for a Audi A4 avant 3.0 tdi how do I make sure I get the one with right engine and box same as this a5 has in it so there’s no problems when going for this upgrade,(bolt on package), and what year cars have this engine ie 2012-2015. Thanks for any help
This is a 2012 model, the CDUC engine was in them from 2011 to ~2014. S-tronic Gearbox
Darkside Developments
Thanks for the reply much appreciated,
whats best way to get the front fog light grills off without taking the whole bumper off? i have an A5 an the Fog lights are steamed up whats a quick easy fix??
I dont think you need the bumper off, I'm sure there are video's online!
@@DarksideDevelopments not any good ones! some are mis information too dont fancy pulling them out with an allen key as a tool lol cheers tho
@@mandashcam2646 Just rip them Out. Pull very hard from the front, they will unclip
Can I install the CP4 Metering Valve in my stage 1 (dpf off, egr off) Golf 7.5 GTD without remapping again? Thanks
It should be fine but not always!
But there is a risk of breaking something? Can I install the valve and turn engine on safely?
Unless you are upgrading the turbo, you will not need a metering upgrade
Love to see you tinker with a bmw 35d
We do them all the time!
Can you tell me what the intercooler kit for the V6 tdi A4 B9 the 272hp permanent quattro does? Along with a remap to about 310hp would it be enough, maybe a bigger air intake silicone pipe. Would that be good?
IC lowers charge temps a lot so you wont get EGT cut so soon. Sounds like a plan!
@@DarksideDevelopments Thanks man, I will be in touch with you this summer when I plan to start upgrading my A4, hopefully you can ship all the bits and parts to me to Croatia.
@@DarksideDevelopments One more question, do you have or will you have a software upgrade/remap for Tiptronic converter 8 speed Audi gearbox? Does it even need a remap or is it perfect as is?
We can't remotely tune them yet but we can improve them!
@@DarksideDevelopments Ok how do you mean remotely tune them? Like send me remap for the Tiptronic which I can just flash on to my gearbox? So how can you improve them?
I assume a A4 would be similar in performance with those mods?
Yes!
what mods have been done to this car?
Look in the description Chuck, hopefully not speaking out of turn, don't hurt me!
13:07 what's up with the gearbox?
Hardcut limiter on engine then some slip between gears
Which is stronger the 245ps or the 239ps ccwa?
Both the same really. Can get around 300hp on a map and ours was a 240hp that we got to 500hp so
Reckon this is faster than the white 430d after 60mph ?
Very similar on a dry road!
Can you do that to a 2015 Q5 3.0 TDI?
Yes email us the VIN and we can advise
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where did you get the air intake hose?
We make them!
@@DarksideDevelopments yes i see it in the shop! but only for the bigger maf sensor 88mm😕
what i really want to know is how much does all that cost at the end, without labor.
7 or 8k maybe?
it doesn't sound diesely enough for me but boy does it fly
The way it "gets into the limiter" shocks me, man alive.
What lambda are u guys running? Isn't the most power coming from lambda 0,85, excessive smoke reduces power?
it all depends on rail pressure where peak power comes, we just tune for visible smoke. Excessive smoke usually does not limit power at all if you ignore EGT
What has happened to the project now? I'm sooooo curious about new information! I did almost the same mods, right now my '15 CDUC has reached 386 (DIN) PS and 786 Nm. During optimizing, limp mode occured twice @ approx. 380 PS and 800 Nm due to less fuel supply, thus that seems to be the limit without changing HPFP. But before upgrading it, I'll have to check why sometimes the gearbox shows an error (which disappears when turning ignition off and on again), and sometimes the engine shows an error, too. This error remains permanent and has to be deleted by software. Besides this, the clutch seems to be another weak point, it obviously slips when pulling too hard (maybe that's another gearbox problem?). But folks, i tell ya, nothing compensates for those astonishing faces of other drivers when they are taken over! The acceleration of a quattro is ingenious!
Clutch issues so we got bored, might re-start soon!
@@DarksideDevelopments I hope you will! Meanwhile I made a video of the acceleration of my own A5, but unfortunately the quality is not the best, hence my equipment is just a phone fixed on the dashboard. ruclips.net/video/KTMKvC3DRpM/видео.html
Any news? I also still have clutch issues, but I'm going to see the programmer once again to increase oil pressure from currently 16 bar to 17 or 18 bar. AFAIK that's maximum, isn't it? Can you describe the problems for me?
You might try SSP clutches, they can handle up to 800Nm: www.sspperformance.com/audi-s4-dsg-s-tronic/clutch-package.html
I'm really interested in getting into diesels more but how are you guys handling the diesel bans and what not ?
They are not banned yet. No one would stop drinking if they proposed to ban alcohol! Haha
A diesel ban won’t happen any time soon, it’s not practical there are millions of diesel is the UK alone, and nout matches the efficiency and reliability
i'm having limpmode issues at top-end. stage 2, it will go into limp mode, then when i bring the speed down for a few hundred yards the car is fine again, no EML, just the glow-plug light flashing....
That's EGT limiter
@@ryanp6138 how can I get around it? Fix it? Cp4.2?
its in the tune
I’m having the exact same issue, my a5 2.7 TDI just gets stuck at 4000rpm (starts jerking and slows down) and doesn’t want to go any further in certain gear, glow plugs are flashing too. Would this be the tune also? - Hoping it’s not the gear box💔
The perfect 3.0 TDI Is engine capa e manual trasmission!
How much BAR or PSI of boost is this running? I have your turbo on my Q7.
2.4bar.
@@DarksideDevelopments Nice! Just ordered your C7 intake elbow and 88mm maf to modify and install!
Lads can’t find a 3.0tdi F5 straight pipe on your website? Have ye one made up yet? Was thinking about heading over from Ireland to get some work done. Will need to hold off till this lockdown lark is over. Let me know anyway boys.
Send us an email with Reg :)
@@DarksideDevelopments will do. Cheers lads
What’s the cost on one of these setup mate?
Please drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk for any costings
Anyone know the cost of doing such a thing?
£5k roughly
Doesn't say hello. Just says 'reet then' LMAO
Its Reyt Then
how much you can get from 3.0 TDi just by software tune(stoch is 250HP)
We'd usually see around 290-300bhp on a tune
@@DarksideDevelopments why am I asking?, because the Croatian interceptors are all illegally modified with software and can reach 264 km/h, which they could not do with 250 hp
what a car this has turned in to. How much would you charge a customer for a package like this?
Roughly 5k
@@ryanp6138 I'll buy your 1 for 5k :-P
Dear Santa I’ve been a very good boy this year and would appreciate it for Christmas if you could get me a 2012- Audi A5 3.0 TDI with a blank cheque inside ,thanks P.S their will be a bottle of Jack and some mince pies by the fire place 😉👍.
what sort of mpg would you expect if it was daily driving?
High 30s, 40s on a run
I want to do the same thing with my A4 3.0TDI, I will be in touch!
YES.... as soon as funds will allow I'll be doing the same.
I’m in the market now for a Audi A4 avant 3.0 tdi how do I make sure I get the one with right engine and box same as this a5 has in it so there’s no problems when going for this upgrade,(bolt on package), and what year cars have this engine ie 2012-2015. Thanks for any help.
@@mnl493x You my be able to speak with Darkside Developments, they'll probably let you know which model/spec. If you're looking to modify the car it very possible that you may be able to look at getting a broader range of 3.0tdi engines(if that makes sense?) if down the line you'll be changing parts. Anyhow I wish you every success.
Yea the A5 in the video is the later engine (B8.5). CDUC. They are from 2012 onwards and the easiest way to tell is the plastic inlet manifolds.
Daniel Marshall
Thanks Daniel I see what your saying, darkside developments replied I posted on main thread aswell. Cheers
So how s-tronic gearbox handle this power?
We tune the box - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/dsg-and-auto-gearbox-tuning/
On higher power / track vehicles we also fit a cooler - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-high-pressure-front-mounted-s-tronic-gearbox-oil-cooler-kit.html
Thanks
@@DarksideDevelopments Thanks for answer.This gearbox is dl501 gen2?It can take more torque than gen 1 in prewious A5 or its the same?
Ah man, I can't wait for this lockdown to be over so I can get started modding my motor. 300bhp has lost its appeal 😂
im starting to regret buying a 1.8tfsi insted of this 3.0tdi haha what is the cost to make it this power from stock?
It is £5 - £6k in parts and labour
@@DarksideDevelopments awesome thanks for reply!
Ryan, would you consider doing the same fuel economy run as you did with the Ibiza? I seriously plan on buying an A5 3.0 for daily and give it a similar treatment as yours have, but I don't wanna get half of the MPG compared to my 1.6 TDI.
I'll save loads of trouble, it will be half! Lol
We did plan an economy trip for this car