The real question is “what is the thinking behind this?” Army already has a recruiting crisis and many people join simply for the educational benefits, so they decided to make it worse?
@@G6Tarantula So instead of having people leaving after 4-6 years they just won't join. Congratulations, you've really boosted army numbers lol. It's insane to argue that people are joining for the "wrong" reasons when the army constantly fails to meet recruitment targets. This is not a time for weird gatekeeping.
@@G6Tarantula Of course the people join the military to serve their country but why will our youth join now especially how anti military most are. What is the benefit of joining now, most people are enlisted when joining. The pay isn't good either, fuck them for joining then right. What a privilege to join and shitty leadership fucks you with the green weenie. Has to be a benefit to join. Would you rather have homeless vets after they ets? Fucking moldy barracks what privilege, thinking like our god damn leadership.
Army: "We're in the middle of the worst recruiting crisis of the modern era. Anyone got any ideas on how to get more people to enlist?" Butterbar: "We could take their benefits away!" Army: "Amazing idea, let's do that!"
@@Dnariobeats1289 And you expect Gen Z to join because of “selflessness”? Have you ever thought about why we are in a recruiting crisis bro? Do You think selflessness is going to bring us some more recruits? I can understand if we’re at war, but we’re at a peace time. Not many people want to join the military to get treated like shit, get paid like shit, & get injured for some political view they don’t believe in, & I don’t blame them man. Personally, I’m in the process of trying to get into the army, but I understand peoples point of view as well, I don’t blame them.
@@Dnariobeats1289 i can understand what you’re saying if we were at war, but it’s peace time. Gen Z doesn’t want to join the military to be selfless, or to get treated like crap, paid like shit, and on top of the, injuries. Especially when I can make 50k at McDonald’s. Also, let’s be real, Most people join the military for the benefits, to find a way out of poverty, or to find some type adventure.
@@Dnariobeats1289 are you being facetious or completely serious? Because I was one of those who came in two weeks after September 11th. Served 21 years, 12 of those deployed, 57 months in combat zones alone (29 in just Iraq to include the initial invasion). Earned two undergraduates while in and just finished my graduate degree off the GI Bill. Retired as a 1SG. Even with all that, we are extremely underpaid for the amount of work you do and the hours you put in. They also just changed the retirement benefits, so all the people after me now won't get that great pension that I do. Pride and 'doing my part' was a big reason I joined. But the benefits are needed to compensate us for our TIME and EFFORT. It is the base for how employment works. The real question would be why aren't we cutting welfare instead? Service members earn their benefits. Welfare scabs just show up for the handout. $325.1 billion was just the VA budget requested this year. 185.5 billion was what the Army requested for 2024. In 2023 we spent $1.101 trillion on welfare. Someone isn't doing their part for this country and it's not the people in the service. This proposed change will not help in any regard.
I feel sorry for y'all in the service .You should be receiving so much more from our government. Always remember that most of us on the civilian side support you and pray for you.God bless and stay safe 🙏
Part of why I did was the education benefits as I was hoping to use the COOL stuff at least, argh!!! If it's based on mos after this not sure what I can get as a 19k.
@@GamerChick5567 I’m 25H, I think I still might be able to get a cyber cert but only being able to put $1000 per year isn’t really going to do much for me.
@@mexicanjumpingbearhave you considered the marines? I’m not sure if the army offers better benefits or anything but from what I’ve been able to quickly search 25H is an infantry company but marines are also known to be infantry combat focused.
@@Alonso-be2qpI’m a 25H as well In the army it is not infantry it’s IT, Infantry sounds cool and all that but it won’t help you in getting a good paying civilian job at all.
If they don’t want to join to help protect the country their loved ones live in, and to also help those who innocently live in tyrannical dictatorships then they can stay out🤷🏻. Even if they don’t get their college paid for, they still can learn and earn extremely valuable life lessons that would help them that they wouldn’t have if they didn’t join. IMO yea it sucks to have less of your education paid for but that shouldn’t be the only reason for someone to join or not join.
@@G6Tarantulanobody is signing their life away for 6 years and risking their health just to learn some lessons. You need to give people reasons to join especially when you’re getting paid less than minimum wage, can’t see your family, and have to put your life on the line for people that don’t care about you
@@G6TarantulaThere’s the lifer-grunt-mentality, and there’s being a useful idiot for oil barons, and the fools in Washington who wield you like tools to be discarded. Can you guess which category you fall in? If you don’t work for the recruiters then you’re a fool for spouting this BS. No one in the armed forces is defending their home, their interests, or even their basic freedoms which have all been stripped away when they return to find out they were never fighting for freedom.
This is going to get hidden: The money they are paying contractor companies, foreign aid, and public works should be invested back into the soldiers' pay, reenlistment, and education. They work so hard and give so much up, just to lose more benefits.
As a teenager I was such a s**t head. So I went to the military, got out and used ALL of my school benefits. Literally got a bachelors degree, a CDL, learned to weld, and rebuild engines, all on uncle Sam’s dime. I can’t tell you how many people I convinced to join bc of those reasons alone.
@@onerider808 the draft is not coming. They're just recruiting smart people. This gets rid of the dumbassea that are canon fodder anyways. No need for canon fodder when we have robotics armies nowm
Don’t join, not worth it. I guarantee your first contract in a peacetime physical labor mos will leave you broken before you get out. Read, work out, and focus on building a successful business. The army will take away all of your time and leave you with crumbs
This is insane! Thank you for shouting this out loud so the people in the back can hear what's going on. These higher ups have the great idea of approving and sending out BILLIONS in Foreign Aid but aren't taking care of the issues here at home, let alone they are making it so much worse. @Gritty Soldier - Keep up the good work of letting the people know what is being pushed down the pipe!
I have personally used over 8,000$ worth of TA and CẢ and this is terrible news. I have always advocated my soldiers to use them and it’s one my biggest lines for people looking to join. Extremely disappointing and hurting our soldiers. Also I don’t know how I am going to pay for my college now with only $1000 a year. Sigh
Scholarships. There might be a conglomerate that arises that does offer scholarships to veterans. I mean some of the scholarships available no one even applies for. I remember one time my white friend got a $500 scholarship only intended for black people because she was the only one who applied for it. She got like 30 $500-$1000 scholarships and went for free. Granted she spent A LOT of time applying for scholarships.
Lately, it seems the U.S. military as a whole has been making bad decisions. From lowering boot camp standards, cutting benefits to unjustified measures to recruit. I hope our military reestablishes itself, instead of digging itself into a hole.
At this point it seems like the military wants the recruitment/retention problem and not fix it. Every policy move the DOD makes just furthers the issue, whether its cutting benefits for more money laundering or plain stupidity it is astonishing. As someone who is currently in the service they make the idea of staying in less and less by the months. It is a sad state of affairs our military is in and its sadly not worth staying in a system that does not want to fix its own self inflicted wounds.
On the positive side, you can still use your VA benefits for education. The sad part is that these soldiers will have to wait until they’re out to use them. This sounds like incentivizing enlisted soldiers to leave rather than stay.
As a current Army Career Counselor 79S this is going to hurt us. I was showing Soldiers about COOL and how to use it to get Certs before getting out. Helped retain them for a year or two to complete it. Now have to adjust fire.
At least it’s not as bad as the United States Air Force! The Air Force just cut their in school ROTC scholarships without notice. Our daughter found out on the last day of regular class that she would get no scholarship even though she qualified for a full one.
funny how they make all these requirements when youre supposed to "retire" like TAP so they have an excuse to make sure you dont be homeless when your contracts ends, but here they are making sure you become homeless more than ever.
The Army in February started going away from the Mechanics Badge and started implementing a Technician badge. The program expands to all technical fields, not just the maintainers. It also adds three levels to denote senior level expertise. The key to reaching the higher levels are having a certificate. The technician program was built off of the current Credentialing Assistance program.
They started that stuff once they lumped people who could fix a multimillion dollar satellite system to component level with some dude doing PMs on tanks. Technician used to really mean something. I had my choice of good jobs when I got out. Now it means basically nothing. It’s stupid, because in real war you cant count on contractors. I’d love to see them return to year long AITs and teach troops to fix anything in their system to the component level, in the field. Make ‘maintenance man’ mean something again.
When I retired from the army as a veteran, I was informed that I had no veterans benefits for education. It seems the post Vietnam war program allowed you to put money into a program where every dollar you put in the military would match you one dollar. Unfortunately, I was not aware of this. I checked with all my classmates who entered the army with me in 1978, and they confirmed the same. Ah well. Apparently, we fell through the crack when Congress was asleep after the Vietnam war. Gotta take care of our veterans.
TA and CA pool from the same fund. Little sad I’m finally starting to utilize my TA as a medic I thankfully have options, thus why I’m knocking out my nursing. Now for a combat arms MOS I feel for. This hurts their job potential once they’re out.
I'll be joining later this year with only two year left of school before my masters. That's why I intend to use the TA shortly after getting enlisted and hopefully have enough energy to study on the weekends.. I was told that the TA applies to your spouse too which is pretty cool. SO thankfully that's not affected
@@DocCypher Okay thank you for clarifying that. You mean rank as in E-1 to E-4? I was told I'll be going in as a E-3 due to the amount of college credits I have. Also, the MOS you signed a contract for is basically what you'll be stuck with right? As in its not easy to change if you don't like it
I came in with 280 credits. Yea got lost at college. Anyway, Came in as PFC too. I don’t have a bachelors myself yet. Rank is the named title. Private, PFC etc. Pay grade is E-#, O-#, and W-#. Yes and no on being stuck. You have the option to reclass during your re enlistment window, towards the end of your contract. They’ll cover that in basic when you’re half dead in the many hour long assembling briefings you’ll be in. or you can research that here on RUclips or google. Highly recommend researching everything before. Even i wish i had done more research and I seemingly did more than even my peers did. as far it being easy, depends on the MOS you’re in, the MOS you want to change and the over all manning the Army has in each of the MOS’s. Example, I’m a medic. I want to switch to Practical Nursing, I can’t at my present rank. They only take SPC’s and below into that MOS. The other factor is, Medics are in massively short supply in some areas so me leaving the MOS is difficult to be approved. Can happen, in fact another MOS that’s more needed right now than medic I’d be able too. It depends on the flavor of the season. It’s not impossible, it’s also extremely difficult.
You also have packet MOS’s you can drop at any time irregardless of your re enlistment window. 12P, Avaition Warrant (Year long packet process generally or longer just getting everything you need.) Special Operations, Special Forces, SMU, 17C and several others.
Damn. I get budget stuff is crazy right now (I’m a training tech in the Nasty Guard) but this is idiotic. Ironically I’m going through Pose Method certification at the moment via credentialing assistance and just promoted other Soldiers making use of it in this month’s newsletter lol.
More than a decade in service and never understood or know about it works. Until last December somebody from this program gave us a conference about it and help us to enlist in the courses. There is a lot of benefits, but not enough people to orient about it.
Perhaps the assistance was under utilized - not aware of many using this benefit within my unit. Funds will likely be funneled elsewhere regarding QoL on installations as that is the current focus (barracks etc.)
Yeah maybe… it still would be weird to take from it though, and limit it so much. I don’t know it seems the army might really be hurting for funds nowadays…
i kinda agree, kind of hard to make use of any benefit when 12hr work day is a short one, and often times work on sat/sun. theres just no time for anything outside of work except sleep
55 years ago Viet combat inf vet stress releaf.none excesting criteria pdr III if I want to go to school I'd have trouble holding A thought long enough to spell chemistry" love" former spc 4 pichl
All that extra money should go back to the troops but it won’t, I will not be re enlisting. This government couldn’t give a fuck about its people let alone its troops.
This is such a sick move. They are having such a hard time retaining and recruiting but they take away any thing that benefits the soldier. The training for us Cyber Warrants went from class A training from vendors like SANS to the Army BS training that is straight up trash. The Army is taking hard. Retirement looks way better.
The reason it’s being taken away is because it helps soldiers transition out of the Army. The Army wants to hold on to soldiers. They are taking away benefits to limit options, hoping people will reenlist because they don’t have other options.
Firstly, this isn't a done deal. It's only being heavily talked about. And if it ends up being taken away, there's plenty of reason for that and since a lot of people are already saying they're leaving if this does happen because it's not a reason to stay, your reason seems to be a moot point. So it's just gonna tank recruitment and retention even more anyway.
Bullsh*t. The Air Force, due to requiring less people members, demands higher ASVAB scores to do the same sh*t that can be done in other branches, notably the Army, what can be gotten with a slightly lower ASVAB score. There is "a lot of education" done in the Air Force, and even the Navy, that translate to looking good while in service, but doesn't mean squat in the civilian world. The Air Force is no different than the other branches, to include the Coast Guard; a lot of the equipment is dumbed down for the sake of ease of use by a broader range of people in uniform. The highly technical stuff, that actually requires technical skill and education, are done by contractors. All it takes is to go look on General Dynamics, KBR, BAE Systems, and Raytheon Technologies career pages, and see what's required to even apply for an entry level position, then look at the handful of "technical" military occupation skills, then realize why the military spends billions on having access to these federal contracting services. There is only but so much technical skill enlisted members bring to the table straight out of high school, and there is only but so much that can be taught in a 16 week post-basic training school.
The army this year: were cutting the Army E Learning program because we have the credential assistance program and its redundant. Also the army this year: fuck you
I am an 11B for the National Guard, I used Army CA to pay for a Comptia Security+ course last year after a deployment. What was interesting to me was that the course price was $3999, so I suspect that the education providers will simply reduce their pricing for courses as a result of this policy change. Linking skills back to the MOS would be an unfortunate change, and likely damaging to retention and talent management initiatives.
I think many people are mistaking the fact that the CA and TA are supplemental benefits to the standard loan repayment, and GI bills. Education benefits still exist this was just an AWESOME additional benefit that when used correctly you got more in your pocket.
Could this be done reduce the education resume building for when a soldier leaves? Is the Army thinking why give funding to a person who is thinking of leaving the military? Also, has the funding itself from the DoD been reduced or is the Army redirecting funds due to lack of budget from the DoD? It is sad the military keeps finding ways to encourage people to join. Yet the Army is shaking the tree by floating an idea of recalling retirees.
To be fair, many soldiers are probably getting these credentials and getting out and using those credentials. I’d imagine that that “credentials related to the MOS” is up commander’s discretion
I’m 14 years in and I literally just started using my TA this year trying to get my associates degree, I start class this Thursday! hope this isn’t true. 👊🏻⚡️🇺🇸
Back when i joined in 2010, i thought i was being smart by using tuition assistance first for community college then using both TA and gi bill when i transfer to higher level education (you only get 120 months of gi bill usage). Big mistake, they changed the rules a year later in 2013 or so preventing you from collecting both TA and GI bill. I could of made an extra 5-10 grand by being greedy. moral of the story : USE YOUR BENEFITS AND MAX IT ALL OUT ASAP
Ok, so I’m new to this. I got out of active duty army in 2012 and tried the reserves for a 6 year enlistment. Quickly realized that was a mistake even with a $15,000 enlistment bonus for a combat engineer. I was working a traveling job as a cell tower technician and I was able to serve the remaining years of my enlistment in inactive reserve. Anyways, that was back in 2019. I never heard of this CA thing and I was afraid that the army was getting rid of thier GI bill when I clicked on this video. This CA thing, is extra and for a specific job skill certification. Thank God the army has not cut out the GI Bill benefits.
This is absolutely crazy. I literally just got done talking to a recruiter a couple of days ago, thank god I continued to do my research because to go through everything the military puts you through and they taking that away ? Yea nahh. Want me to risk MY life ? How laughable. Changing it to 1k and it has to coincide with your MOS ? Woww. I can only imagine how many mad ppl its gonna be in the next couple of years, because you already know these recruiters is NOT telling potentials that.
Gee, I wonder why recruitment goals aren't being meet? I remember enlisting just before they dumped that '20 yrs = 50% retirement and free medical and dental for life'. That went away shortly after. Same with the whole bouncing between the various versions of GI bill. Add on the under funded and limited VA services afterwards and you get a hollow, hi-tech force.
So, from what I'm reading they're primarily after CA and not so much TA - but regardless, the main concern is establishing some guidelines or regulation to the benefit because there currently isn't any. Personally, I like the idea of regulations on TA because I don't think it's right or ethical for Soldiers to be going to shitty for profit online colleges to earn a useless bachelor's or master's degree. This will indirectly cut costs without having to actually lower TA. Regardless, hopefully it's in our favor.
How does the Army benefit from the additional cost of certifications? The cost benefit isn’t there. Up to 4K a year for a program that is barely used and has no positive impact on recruiting and retention doesn’t make good business sense.
Uhmmm… this is super concerning.. I’m literally swearing in this Wednesday, this is one of the only benefits I can take advantage of and planned to use and a main reason for joining. (I’m late 30’s already have a college degree, paid off)
I know many young men at my airport who have used their military benefits to get their pilot ratings for commercial airline work. As a Vietnam vet I used my GI bill which really wasn’t that good but it helped me thru college nonetheless
While I don’t see this proposal moving forward, this is a very foolish idea. Especially the idea of limiting CA to $4000 over an entire career. This makes me worried for all the young soldiers that I guided through the enlistment process.
If anyone cares vote this up. It’s the answer. In the Marines we did a study on who was actually using credentialing assistance and it was overwhelmingly Marines who planned to stay in regardless or Marines who were definitely getting out regardless. And in absolute terms it was barely used at all. In other words it was not an effective recruiting or retention tool. And that’s what these benefits boil down to for the services. Can they either get you to enlist, re-enlist, or both. It’s not about doing anyone a solid, or better preparing troops for life as a civilian, etc. Those are just sort of happy consequences of such policies, not what they’re actually put in place for.
@@d3lan011 Believe me, I know. It all boils down to whether your SNCOIC or OIC gives a damn. Because anyone over the rank of O3 is gonna ASSUME it’s happening; again, unless they give a damn. It really sucks that your first tour, and really your whole career banks on having good people in charge of you. Civilian certifications are not part of the DRRS report so learning about it is really on the individual.
They will always cut funding to programs that people are not using. I'm sure not as many Soldiers are using the CA. Of course the CA should be aligned with your career field because they want SMs to excel and get their money's worth out of that individual.
Actually, it is the opposite. When CA was finally allowed to be used by all soldiers, we went from getting $4000 every FY towards flight training to $1200 or $1000, all of the other CA funded courses still provided $4000 towards the certification. Another example many years ago the Post 9/11 could be fully transferred to your kids, now they get about half of that. Either the Army is not doing a good job of budgeting this programs or the schools are getting too greedy causing some of the credentials to get too expensive.
In my experience the majority of my Soldiers couldn't care less about CA, TA, or switching their GI Bill. None of them would even take the classes offered at the ED Centers. All of this was promoted thru the entire COC. Thanks for the update on the GI Bill. That's news to me and it hasn't been 2 years since I retired.
@@TokyoJoe3 Why is that? Genuinely asking, because when free education is huge reason for people joining, I find it crazy/hard to believe that suddenly they wouldn't care about it.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228I can tell you from my experience. The majority of my Soldiers enlisted for signing bonuses. They wanted their time off to be their time and had no interest in going to classes. Many of them did their initial enlistments because there were no reenlistment bonuses.
Definitely not good news for soldiers nor recruiting. But we in the civilian world have seen a shift to education benefits must benefit the mission a decade or more ago. You used to be able to sebatical for a year to finish a degree that's been gone for 20 years.
I know it seems crazy but when I was a teenager I replaced the textbook and no longer went to school because I was like why don't I just stay home and go to school at the PC I bought. I went to college then went military right and watched my fellow service members go to college online. Understand something I DIDN'T EVEN NEED THE INTERNET TO GO TO COLLEGE BEFORE I JOINED THE MILITARY... That's over 20 years ago. If it were up to me 15 years ago not only would I have replaced every teacher and just about every professor at the highschool and college levels along with ALL of their books. There a very few things that I can't take away such as I can't take away the labs. You can't perform labwork in my opinion without feeling seeing etc. You can watch other do it in recorded video segments and actually I think that's possibly a better design because you can obtain test results from others throughout the world rather than having to build your own thing just to recreate the same experiment that has already yielded a result. That crazy by the way got me arrested when I was just 15 years old.I don't believe you can teach everything without hands on but a lot of college is thinking and even highschool is learning how to critically think how to put thought into action how to do something without endangering yourself or others by learning tactics ideas etc that will ensure the results of what you seek. All of this is before AI. The ability of AI to be a teacher to give an answer to act as a liason between the learner and the professional? Obviously, I don't like AI as the go to mechanism because it can be monopolistic. It could be only as good as the programmers of it and you don't necessarily receive wrong information that you will immediately find wrong. Like looking at my fellow coworkers in the military going to school online with a massive budget and giving to people who don't even really teach them much if anything at all besides how to waste an enormous fortune and receive very little in return. I like wrong answers just as much as I like right answers because I learn from both. Why this is the right way and this is the wrong way. What went wrong here so that I don't make the mistake that others have made. The cost of such a thing 15 years ago $5.00 retail per person no internet required. That doesn't include the choices that the device works with or the mechanisms on the device such as video presentations or audio/text features. I have no problem removing it all from our world. It would absolutely reduce the cost of learning how to become a (professional) how to give unto everyone an American dream that wouldn't cripple them into debt or bankruptcy. I don't believe that the military should be funding methods of teaching that are as expensive as they're. I don't believe that what my military leadership was learning from was worth a single cent from their pockets nor the taxpayers pockets. It's not just because it's considered my competition it is because it isn't the best of the best of the best. I don't enable the worst to be a method to be given massive funding. I don't fund shit I remove the funding from it.
As for why this is a thing A lot of people don't want the military person to leave their assigned roles. The statement too many chiefs not enough Indians would apply here. People don't like competition. They don't like facing competition. The real world doesn't want you to be competitive they want you to be a servant to them. They want you to be as uneducated as possible or in debt because that enables them leverage over you. A skillset you don't have nor can acquire and because they don't give you enough or train you themselves to enhance your own dreams they pull the rug back out from under you. People love the idea that the military person is stuck being a military person until injury or removal from service due to. Even during my short tenure they stopped liking the idea that an E-5 could even retire from the military. Limiting roles and responsibilities holding people back from their dreams their education their pay etc. You could easily suggest that anyone paid to get a certificate should train pro bono or give to the military the training essentials so that they can be the best that they can be but again that's not what the military leadership would actually do. The leaders I met absolutely want to you hold you back hold you down to orders and obedience like a dog rather than a human with their own dreams goals and aspirations. Obviously, when the military doesn't make people work for them maybe we should go about this differently? Maybe we should develop raids into professors every year or teachers and force them to train us in the ways of? Maybe training such people shouldn't be costly other than time? I sort of understand how people look at the finances on the books and say why are we doing this? I also understand how people don't want people to grow. The entire system is made up of people who are held back by where they started not who they're or what skillsets or knowledge they possess and how to utilize that knowledge that skillset that asset efficiently and correctly vs simple obedience of do as your told. It's not a surprise that the system says you can't learn without money and you can't be given money to learn when the system was built on the backs of people who were forbidden the knowledge of reading writing arithmetic with risk of torture death etc as a result of such sought out knowledge. Until you remove the lords over top of you, you' will always be just their subject. The use of monetary value does make like easier and maybe that's the issue here? That the military should adopt ideas of how to accomplish the same goals or tasks without the monetary values associated with such? There is such a thing in capitalism as demand. The demand for things possibly increases the cost and so to reduce cost is to reduce demand? Or to create a problem for the demand so that while the demand truly exists it's not achievable anymore. It's moving the goal post yet again. Just out of reach.
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The real question is “what is the thinking behind this?” Army already has a recruiting crisis and many people join simply for the educational benefits, so they decided to make it worse?
@@G6Tarantula So instead of having people leaving after 4-6 years they just won't join. Congratulations, you've really boosted army numbers lol.
It's insane to argue that people are joining for the "wrong" reasons when the army constantly fails to meet recruitment targets. This is not a time for weird gatekeeping.
They think cutting benefits will make SMs believe they should stay in service longer to get their degree.
@@G6Tarantula Of course the people join the military to serve their country but why will our youth join now especially how anti military most are. What is the benefit of joining now, most people are enlisted when joining. The pay isn't good either, fuck them for joining then right. What a privilege to join and shitty leadership fucks you with the green weenie. Has to be a benefit to join. Would you rather have homeless vets after they ets? Fucking moldy barracks what privilege, thinking like our god damn leadership.
So much for college I hope I'll make selection for green berets. I just hate the way meps looks for shit that can screw you from joining.
@@MyLife_Chronicles good luck man
Army: "We're in the middle of the worst recruiting crisis of the modern era. Anyone got any ideas on how to get more people to enlist?"
Butterbar: "We could take their benefits away!"
Army: "Amazing idea, let's do that!"
I think they’re gonna draft a couple thousand people & don’t wanna just give edu-bens away for free lol 😂
So $20k a year & basically no education benefits? Why join when others can make 50k a year working at McDonald’s.
@@Dnariobeats1289 And you expect Gen Z to join because of “selflessness”? Have you ever thought about why we are in a recruiting crisis bro? Do You think selflessness is going to bring us some more recruits? I can understand if we’re at war, but we’re at a peace time. Not many people want to join the military to get treated like shit, get paid like shit, & get injured for some political view they don’t believe in, & I don’t blame them man. Personally, I’m in the process of trying to get into the army, but I understand peoples point of view as well, I don’t blame them.
@@Dnariobeats1289 i can understand what you’re saying if we were at war, but it’s peace time. Gen Z doesn’t want to join the military to be selfless, or to get treated like crap, paid like shit, and on top of the, injuries. Especially when I can make 50k at McDonald’s. Also, let’s be real, Most people join the military for the benefits, to find a way out of poverty, or to find some type adventure.
@1289derrick that's a stupid claim, it's not selfish to want the benefits you should get for serving the country and losing certain freedoms.
See how far that goes when AI takes over and they lay people off it’s already happening in Ca
@@Dnariobeats1289 are you being facetious or completely serious? Because I was one of those who came in two weeks after September 11th. Served 21 years, 12 of those deployed, 57 months in combat zones alone (29 in just Iraq to include the initial invasion). Earned two undergraduates while in and just finished my graduate degree off the GI Bill. Retired as a 1SG.
Even with all that, we are extremely underpaid for the amount of work you do and the hours you put in. They also just changed the retirement benefits, so all the people after me now won't get that great pension that I do. Pride and 'doing my part' was a big reason I joined. But the benefits are needed to compensate us for our TIME and EFFORT. It is the base for how employment works.
The real question would be why aren't we cutting welfare instead? Service members earn their benefits. Welfare scabs just show up for the handout. $325.1 billion was just the VA budget requested this year. 185.5 billion was what the Army requested for 2024. In 2023 we spent $1.101 trillion on welfare. Someone isn't doing their part for this country and it's not the people in the service.
This proposed change will not help in any regard.
I feel sorry for y'all in the service .You should be receiving so much more from our government. Always remember that most of us on the civilian side support you and pray for you.God bless and stay safe 🙏
Damn. I just enlisted and this program was one of the biggest reasons behind me making that choice. Wtf
Part of why I did was the education benefits as I was hoping to use the COOL stuff at least, argh!!! If it's based on mos after this not sure what I can get as a 19k.
@@GamerChick5567 I’m 25H, I think I still might be able to get a cyber cert but only being able to put $1000 per year isn’t really going to do much for me.
@@mexicanjumpingbearhave you considered the marines? I’m not sure if the army offers better benefits or anything but from what I’ve been able to quickly search 25H is an infantry company but marines are also known to be infantry combat focused.
@@Alonso-be2qpI’m a 25H as well In the army it is not infantry it’s IT, Infantry sounds cool and all that but it won’t help you in getting a good paying civilian job at all.
The military as a whole is going in the shiiter
The solution for people not wanting to join is to give them more reasons to not want to join.
If they don’t want to join to help protect the country their loved ones live in, and to also help those who innocently live in tyrannical dictatorships then they can stay out🤷🏻. Even if they don’t get their college paid for, they still can learn and earn extremely valuable life lessons that would help them that they wouldn’t have if they didn’t join. IMO yea it sucks to have less of your education paid for but that shouldn’t be the only reason for someone to join or not join.
@@G6Tarantulabro, it’s peace time. Let’s get our numbers and still get an education. Nothing wrong with that
@@G6Tarantulanobody is signing their life away for 6 years and risking their health just to learn some lessons. You need to give people reasons to join especially when you’re getting paid less than minimum wage, can’t see your family, and have to put your life on the line for people that don’t care about you
@@G6TarantulaThere’s the lifer-grunt-mentality, and there’s being a useful idiot for oil barons, and the fools in Washington who wield you like tools to be discarded. Can you guess which category you fall in? If you don’t work for the recruiters then you’re a fool for spouting this BS. No one in the armed forces is defending their home, their interests, or even their basic freedoms which have all been stripped away when they return to find out they were never fighting for freedom.
@@chainarmor448and we’re under corporate occupation there’s no legit defense of this place when the govt has been hi jacked
This is going to get hidden: The money they are paying contractor companies, foreign aid, and public works should be invested back into the soldiers' pay, reenlistment, and education. They work so hard and give so much up, just to lose more benefits.
As a teenager I was such a s**t head. So I went to the military, got out and used ALL of my school benefits. Literally got a bachelors degree, a CDL, learned to weld, and rebuild engines, all on uncle Sam’s dime. I can’t tell you how many people I convinced to join bc of those reasons alone.
Bruh.. I'm already debating on joining, and this did NOT reassure me at all
They’ll draft you soon enough. Go to trade school and get in great shape.
@@onerider808 the draft is not coming. They're just recruiting smart people. This gets rid of the dumbassea that are canon fodder anyways. No need for canon fodder when we have robotics armies nowm
@@RubensBarrichello.Yeah, ok. All the smart people are the ones that stay away at this moment in time.
Maybe next year.
@@MrBrandonata 😂
Don’t join, not worth it. I guarantee your first contract in a peacetime physical labor mos will leave you broken before you get out.
Read, work out, and focus on building a successful business.
The army will take away all of your time and leave you with crumbs
The only reason I was going to join the army was for education benefits. Off to the Airforce it is then.
billions for other countries, yet nothing for military pay increase!
This is insane! Thank you for shouting this out loud so the people in the back can hear what's going on. These higher ups have the great idea of approving and sending out BILLIONS in Foreign Aid but aren't taking care of the issues here at home, let alone they are making it so much worse. @Gritty Soldier - Keep up the good work of letting the people know what is being pushed down the pipe!
I have personally used over 8,000$ worth of TA and CẢ and this is terrible news. I have always advocated my soldiers to use them and it’s one my biggest lines for people looking to join. Extremely disappointing and hurting our soldiers. Also I don’t know how I am going to pay for my college now with only $1000 a year. Sigh
Scholarships. There might be a conglomerate that arises that does offer scholarships to veterans. I mean some of the scholarships available no one even applies for. I remember one time my white friend got a $500 scholarship only intended for black people because she was the only one who applied for it. She got like 30 $500-$1000 scholarships and went for free. Granted she spent A LOT of time applying for scholarships.
@@RubensBarrichello. WTF? Where are these scholarships? I haven't been able to find one that gets approved.
That’s ridiculous. Recruiters are going to have a hard time if this line of thinking continues.
Lately, it seems the U.S. military as a whole has been making bad decisions. From lowering boot camp standards, cutting benefits to unjustified measures to recruit. I hope our military reestablishes itself, instead of digging itself into a hole.
At this point it seems like the military wants the recruitment/retention problem and not fix it. Every policy move the DOD makes just furthers the issue, whether its cutting benefits for more money laundering or plain stupidity it is astonishing. As someone who is currently in the service they make the idea of staying in less and less by the months. It is a sad state of affairs our military is in and its sadly not worth staying in a system that does not want to fix its own self inflicted wounds.
On the positive side, you can still use your VA benefits for education. The sad part is that these soldiers will have to wait until they’re out to use them. This sounds like incentivizing enlisted soldiers to leave rather than stay.
Ay buddy I ain't sitting in a desert right now just to come back home to no new "free" education
We gotta use that money for our greatest ally and our replacements.
As a current Army Career Counselor 79S this is going to hurt us. I was showing Soldiers about COOL and how to use it to get Certs before getting out. Helped retain them for a year or two to complete it. Now have to adjust fire.
This is a shame; thank you for providing more exposure on the issue.
At least it’s not as bad as the United States Air Force! The Air Force just cut their in school ROTC scholarships without notice. Our daughter found out on the last day of regular class that she would get no scholarship even though she qualified for a full one.
I would be livid.
That's awful.
Talk about giving the middle finger to Army education to help transition.
funny how they make all these requirements when youre supposed to "retire" like TAP so they have an excuse to make sure you dont be homeless when your contracts ends, but here they are making sure you become homeless more than ever.
The Army in February started going away from the Mechanics Badge and started implementing a Technician badge.
The program expands to all technical fields, not just the maintainers.
It also adds three levels to denote senior level expertise.
The key to reaching the higher levels are having a certificate. The technician program was built off of the current Credentialing Assistance program.
They started that stuff once they lumped people who could fix a multimillion dollar satellite system to component level with some dude doing PMs on tanks. Technician used to really mean something. I had my choice of good jobs when I got out. Now it means basically nothing. It’s stupid, because in real war you cant count on contractors. I’d love to see them return to year long AITs and teach troops to fix anything in their system to the component level, in the field. Make ‘maintenance man’ mean something again.
Get that badge
When I retired from the army as a veteran, I was informed that I had no veterans benefits for education. It seems the post Vietnam war program allowed you to put money into a program where every dollar you put in the military would match you one dollar. Unfortunately, I was not aware of this. I checked with all my classmates who entered the army with me in 1978, and they confirmed the same. Ah well. Apparently, we fell through the crack when Congress was asleep after the Vietnam war. Gotta take care of our veterans.
In my experience the bad rumors always come true. This will work wonders for retention and recruitment.
Dam :(
TA and CA pool from the same fund. Little sad I’m finally starting to utilize my TA as a medic I thankfully have options, thus why I’m knocking out my nursing.
Now for a combat arms MOS I feel for. This hurts their job potential once they’re out.
I'll be joining later this year with only two year left of school before my masters. That's why I intend to use the TA shortly after getting enlisted and hopefully have enough energy to study on the weekends.. I was told that the TA applies to your spouse too which is pretty cool. SO thankfully that's not affected
@@TobbeStormThe spouse can use the SM TA but it’s a bit of headache paperwork. it’s possible though. Only available through certain ranks though.
@@DocCypher Okay thank you for clarifying that. You mean rank as in E-1 to E-4? I was told I'll be going in as a E-3 due to the amount of college credits I have. Also, the MOS you signed a contract for is basically what you'll be stuck with right? As in its not easy to change if you don't like it
I came in with 280 credits. Yea got lost at college. Anyway, Came in as PFC too. I don’t have a bachelors myself yet.
Rank is the named title. Private, PFC etc. Pay grade is E-#, O-#, and W-#.
Yes and no on being stuck. You have the option to reclass during your re enlistment window, towards the end of your contract. They’ll cover that in basic when you’re half dead in the many hour long assembling briefings you’ll be in. or you can research that here on RUclips or google. Highly recommend researching everything before. Even i wish i had done more research and I seemingly did more than even my peers did.
as far it being easy, depends on the MOS you’re in, the MOS you want to change and the over all manning the Army has in each of the MOS’s. Example, I’m a medic. I want to switch to Practical Nursing, I can’t at my present rank. They only take SPC’s and below into that MOS. The other factor is, Medics are in massively short supply in some areas so me leaving the MOS is difficult to be approved. Can happen, in fact another MOS that’s more needed right now than medic I’d be able too. It depends on the flavor of the season. It’s not impossible, it’s also extremely difficult.
You also have packet MOS’s you can drop at any time irregardless of your re enlistment window.
12P, Avaition Warrant (Year long packet process generally or longer just getting everything you need.) Special Operations, Special Forces, SMU, 17C and several others.
Damn. I get budget stuff is crazy right now (I’m a training tech in the Nasty Guard) but this is idiotic. Ironically I’m going through Pose Method certification at the moment via credentialing assistance and just promoted other Soldiers making use of it in this month’s newsletter lol.
More than a decade in service and never understood or know about it works.
Until last December somebody from this program gave us a conference about it and help us to enlist in the courses.
There is a lot of benefits, but not enough people to orient about it.
What’s your rank and Mos?
This is still in the planning stages. Not a done deal yet. The GI bill is still available. It's not dramatic.
I have been telling my Soldiers that reenlisting is not a good idea
These politicians want to cut benefits & pay while they give themselves raises.
That would be incredibly stupid. I really hope they don't do it.
News flash: The army fights wars and doesn't care about much else.
Perhaps the assistance was under utilized - not aware of many using this benefit within my unit. Funds will likely be funneled elsewhere regarding QoL on installations as that is the current focus (barracks etc.)
Yeah maybe… it still would be weird to take from it though, and limit it so much. I don’t know it seems the army might really be hurting for funds nowadays…
i kinda agree, kind of hard to make use of any benefit when 12hr work day is a short one, and often times work on sat/sun. theres just no time for anything outside of work except sleep
@@GrittySoldierwe wouldn’t hurting for funds if Congress wouldn’t be sending so much money to countries other than our own
55 years ago Viet combat inf vet stress releaf.none excesting criteria pdr III if I want to go to school I'd have trouble holding A thought long enough to spell chemistry" love" former spc 4 pichl
They want to make the recruiting crisis so bad that they're forced to employ a draft.
The migrants coming through the Darien gap are being offered citizenship if they serve in the US military.
@@FrontUWnot a bad idea
All that extra money should go back to the troops but it won’t, I will not be re enlisting. This government couldn’t give a fuck about its people let alone its troops.
This is such a sick move. They are having such a hard time retaining and recruiting but they take away any thing that benefits the soldier. The training for us Cyber Warrants went from class A training from vendors like SANS to the Army BS training that is straight up trash. The Army is taking hard. Retirement looks way better.
The military has never guaranteed education benefits. They are available based on funding as an incentive.
We'll have to give our money to Ukraine and Israel
Gotta pay for illegal asylum seekers and shady Ukraine contractors
Cutting SM benefits while reducing flight time for pilots. Another 100mil to Ukraine. Let's go
When they cut bennies, it means a war or the draft or both
How do you figure this? It not like this hasn't happened many times before already. Cutting costs is just how America rolls, always has.
Thanks!
Wow thanks for much for that! 🙏
Why are we acting surprised?
The reason it’s being taken away is because it helps soldiers transition out of the Army. The Army wants to hold on to soldiers. They are taking away benefits to limit options, hoping people will reenlist because they don’t have other options.
Firstly, this isn't a done deal. It's only being heavily talked about. And if it ends up being taken away, there's plenty of reason for that and since a lot of people are already saying they're leaving if this does happen because it's not a reason to stay, your reason seems to be a moot point. So it's just gonna tank recruitment and retention even more anyway.
Smart move Army. Way to de-incentivize potential recruits for joining......
Join the Airforce! It is the only branch of the military that makes education a priority for its members!
Bullsh*t. The Air Force, due to requiring less people members, demands higher ASVAB scores to do the same sh*t that can be done in other branches, notably the Army, what can be gotten with a slightly lower ASVAB score. There is "a lot of education" done in the Air Force, and even the Navy, that translate to looking good while in service, but doesn't mean squat in the civilian world. The Air Force is no different than the other branches, to include the Coast Guard; a lot of the equipment is dumbed down for the sake of ease of use by a broader range of people in uniform.
The highly technical stuff, that actually requires technical skill and education, are done by contractors. All it takes is to go look on General Dynamics, KBR, BAE Systems, and Raytheon Technologies career pages, and see what's required to even apply for an entry level position, then look at the handful of "technical" military occupation skills, then realize why the military spends billions on having access to these federal contracting services.
There is only but so much technical skill enlisted members bring to the table straight out of high school, and there is only but so much that can be taught in a 16 week post-basic training school.
So instead of cyber security, as an infantrymen I gotta become a gun smith or something 😂
BZ on your duty, and personal courage Soldier!
The army this year: were cutting the Army E Learning program because we have the credential assistance program and its redundant.
Also the army this year: fuck you
I am an 11B for the National Guard, I used Army CA to pay for a Comptia Security+ course last year after a deployment. What was interesting to me was that the course price was $3999, so I suspect that the education providers will simply reduce their pricing for courses as a result of this policy change. Linking skills back to the MOS would be an unfortunate change, and likely damaging to retention and talent management initiatives.
No they wont why would they
I might consider taking CompTIA for a job in security later on, I already have a Google certificate in Cybersecurity
@@Jonathan-e9q go to the navy if u wanna party with diddy😫
@@taebeendatThey will reduce price because Army is their biggest client. Thats called “the market “
For those that are still in, dont re up for too long
This is nuts!! this was the biggest reason I joined the Army over 30 years ago.
The program just came out in 2020
For promotions what are they expecting the soldiers to do? They are expecting enlisted to have at least a bachelor degree to become a 1sg.
Dammm looks like private military for infantry it is. 💀💀💀
Choose your MOS wisely. Myself 67y and 55d /AH1F crew chief and EOD. US Army 87 to 95. Sgt E5
Uhh Raahh Devil Dog!!!
Listen, I was under the Montgomery GI BILL used it one time a 6 month class, then was told it's EXPIRED? LIKE MILK OR EGGS EXPIRED??
I think many people are mistaking the fact that the CA and TA are supplemental benefits to the standard loan repayment, and GI bills. Education benefits still exist this was just an AWESOME additional benefit that when used correctly you got more in your pocket.
Could this be done reduce the education resume building for when a soldier leaves?
Is the Army thinking why give funding to a person who is thinking of leaving the military?
Also, has the funding itself from the DoD been reduced or is the Army redirecting funds due to lack of budget from the DoD?
It is sad the military keeps finding ways to encourage people to join. Yet the Army is shaking the tree by floating an idea of recalling retirees.
To be fair, many soldiers are probably getting these credentials and getting out and using those credentials. I’d imagine that that “credentials related to the MOS” is up commander’s discretion
I’m 14 years in and I literally just started using my TA this year trying to get my associates degree, I start class this Thursday! hope this isn’t true. 👊🏻⚡️🇺🇸
If they do this I’m not re enlisting after this contract.
Back when i joined in 2010, i thought i was being smart by using tuition assistance first for community college then using both TA and gi bill when i transfer to higher level education (you only get 120 months of gi bill usage). Big mistake, they changed the rules a year later in 2013 or so preventing you from collecting both TA and GI bill. I could of made an extra 5-10 grand by being greedy. moral of the story : USE YOUR BENEFITS AND MAX IT ALL OUT ASAP
Nothing but pogs left.. even the 11bs are pogs now😂
The #1 reason I joined was for the education, and this came out the literal day after I swore in
“Sometimes the army dosent get things right” Battle i heard that😂
I bet the Captain's Career Course still pays you to get your Masters degree...while getting base pay.
ARMY! Get it tf together please.
Ok, so I’m new to this. I got out of active duty army in 2012 and tried the reserves for a 6 year enlistment. Quickly realized that was a mistake even with a $15,000 enlistment bonus for a combat engineer. I was working a traveling job as a cell tower technician and I was able to serve the remaining years of my enlistment in inactive reserve. Anyways, that was back in 2019. I never heard of this CA thing and I was afraid that the army was getting rid of thier GI bill when I clicked on this video. This CA thing, is extra and for a specific job skill certification. Thank God the army has not cut out the GI Bill benefits.
This is absolutely crazy. I literally just got done talking to a recruiter a couple of days ago, thank god I continued to do my research because to go through everything the military puts you through and they taking that away ? Yea nahh. Want me to risk MY life ? How laughable. Changing it to 1k and it has to coincide with your MOS ? Woww. I can only imagine how many mad ppl its gonna be in the next couple of years, because you already know these recruiters is NOT telling potentials that.
Go be a cop or a firefighter. Trust me…
So who are the "bean counters" that think this a good idea?
Same ones who voted on black berets....and whose kids are probably getting free education
Gee, I wonder why recruitment goals aren't being meet?
I remember enlisting just before they dumped that '20 yrs = 50% retirement and free medical and dental for life'. That went away shortly after. Same with the whole bouncing between the various versions of GI bill. Add on the under funded and limited VA services afterwards and you get a hollow, hi-tech force.
Military be like: how can we fuck up our recruiting crisis even more?
So, from what I'm reading they're primarily after CA and not so much TA - but regardless, the main concern is establishing some guidelines or regulation to the benefit because there currently isn't any. Personally, I like the idea of regulations on TA because I don't think it's right or ethical for Soldiers to be going to shitty for profit online colleges to earn a useless bachelor's or master's degree. This will indirectly cut costs without having to actually lower TA. Regardless, hopefully it's in our favor.
How does the Army benefit from the additional cost of certifications? The cost benefit isn’t there. Up to 4K a year for a program that is barely used and has no positive impact on recruiting and retention doesn’t make good business sense.
Army reserves it is called ta tuition assistance
Uhmmm… this is super concerning.. I’m literally swearing in this Wednesday, this is one of the only benefits I can take advantage of and planned to use and a main reason for joining. (I’m late 30’s already have a college degree, paid off)
The less education you get the more likely you are not to leave
So basically they're literally removing every reason any new kid would wanna join
I know many young men at my airport who have used their military benefits to get their pilot ratings for commercial airline work. As a Vietnam vet I used my GI bill which really wasn’t that good but it helped me thru college nonetheless
Write your congressman.
This idea will cause low numbers in recruitment, which then gives the congress a reason to push for drafting imo.
Never going to happen
Yeah and they wonder why nobody wants to be in the army.
While I don’t see this proposal moving forward, this is a very foolish idea. Especially the idea of limiting CA to $4000 over an entire career. This makes me worried for all the young soldiers that I guided through the enlistment process.
This is exactly the type of program they should be pouring money into.
If anyone cares vote this up. It’s the answer.
In the Marines we did a study on who was actually using credentialing assistance and it was overwhelmingly Marines who planned to stay in regardless or Marines who were definitely getting out regardless. And in absolute terms it was barely used at all. In other words it was not an effective recruiting or retention tool. And that’s what these benefits boil down to for the services. Can they either get you to enlist, re-enlist, or both. It’s not about doing anyone a solid, or better preparing troops for life as a civilian, etc. Those are just sort of happy consequences of such policies, not what they’re actually put in place for.
I think the reason no one uses it as much is because no one tells them about it in detail or potential discouragement from using it.
@@d3lan011 Believe me, I know. It all boils down to whether your SNCOIC or OIC gives a damn. Because anyone over the rank of O3 is gonna ASSUME it’s happening; again, unless they give a damn. It really sucks that your first tour, and really your whole career banks on having good people in charge of you. Civilian certifications are not part of the DRRS report so learning about it is really on the individual.
The only job infantry goes good in is law enforcement. You can move up to swat and get paid alot.
They will always cut funding to programs that people are not using. I'm sure not as many Soldiers are using the CA. Of course the CA should be aligned with your career field because they want SMs to excel and get their money's worth out of that individual.
Actually, it is the opposite. When CA was finally allowed to be used by all soldiers, we went from getting $4000 every FY towards flight training to $1200 or $1000, all of the other CA funded courses still provided $4000 towards the certification. Another example many years ago the Post 9/11 could be fully transferred to your kids, now they get about half of that. Either the Army is not doing a good job of budgeting this programs or the schools are getting too greedy causing some of the credentials to get too expensive.
In my experience the majority of my Soldiers couldn't care less about CA, TA, or switching their GI Bill. None of them would even take the classes offered at the ED Centers. All of this was promoted thru the entire COC. Thanks for the update on the GI Bill. That's news to me and it hasn't been 2 years since I retired.
@@TokyoJoe3 Why is that? Genuinely asking, because when free education is huge reason for people joining, I find it crazy/hard to believe that suddenly they wouldn't care about it.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228I can tell you from my experience. The majority of my Soldiers enlisted for signing bonuses. They wanted their time off to be their time and had no interest in going to classes. Many of them did their initial enlistments because there were no reenlistment bonuses.
So glad I ETS’d already 🤦🏼♂️
Unfortunately our potato head government is in decline. Thank you all for your service, you deserve so much better!!
So you can’t get a cert over $1000 while enlisted. Once you’re out tho can you just use the GI bill Benefits to cover trades and schools.
Why join up then ? This is nuts
They’re probably looking at cutting it because people aren’t using it.
Definitely not good news for soldiers nor recruiting. But we in the civilian world have seen a shift to education benefits must benefit the mission a decade or more ago. You used to be able to sebatical for a year to finish a degree that's been gone for 20 years.
The less people that join the easier is to rank up...
I know it seems crazy but when I was a teenager I replaced the textbook and no longer went to school because I was like why don't I just stay home and go to school at the PC I bought. I went to college then went military right and watched my fellow service members go to college online. Understand something I DIDN'T EVEN NEED THE INTERNET TO GO TO COLLEGE BEFORE I JOINED THE MILITARY... That's over 20 years ago. If it were up to me 15 years ago not only would I have replaced every teacher and just about every professor at the highschool and college levels along with ALL of their books. There a very few things that I can't take away such as I can't take away the labs. You can't perform labwork in my opinion without feeling seeing etc. You can watch other do it in recorded video segments and actually I think that's possibly a better design because you can obtain test results from others throughout the world rather than having to build your own thing just to recreate the same experiment that has already yielded a result. That crazy by the way got me arrested when I was just 15 years old.I don't believe you can teach everything without hands on but a lot of college is thinking and even highschool is learning how to critically think how to put thought into action how to do something without endangering yourself or others by learning tactics ideas etc that will ensure the results of what you seek. All of this is before AI. The ability of AI to be a teacher to give an answer to act as a liason between the learner and the professional? Obviously, I don't like AI as the go to mechanism because it can be monopolistic. It could be only as good as the programmers of it and you don't necessarily receive wrong information that you will immediately find wrong. Like looking at my fellow coworkers in the military going to school online with a massive budget and giving to people who don't even really teach them much if anything at all besides how to waste an enormous fortune and receive very little in return. I like wrong answers just as much as I like right answers because I learn from both. Why this is the right way and this is the wrong way. What went wrong here so that I don't make the mistake that others have made. The cost of such a thing 15 years ago $5.00 retail per person no internet required. That doesn't include the choices that the device works with or the mechanisms on the device such as video presentations or audio/text features. I have no problem removing it all from our world. It would absolutely reduce the cost of learning how to become a (professional) how to give unto everyone an American dream that wouldn't cripple them into debt or bankruptcy. I don't believe that the military should be funding methods of teaching that are as expensive as they're. I don't believe that what my military leadership was learning from was worth a single cent from their pockets nor the taxpayers pockets. It's not just because it's considered my competition it is because it isn't the best of the best of the best. I don't enable the worst to be a method to be given massive funding. I don't fund shit I remove the funding from it.
As for why this is a thing A lot of people don't want the military person to leave their assigned roles. The statement too many chiefs not enough Indians would apply here. People don't like competition. They don't like facing competition. The real world doesn't want you to be competitive they want you to be a servant to them. They want you to be as uneducated as possible or in debt because that enables them leverage over you. A skillset you don't have nor can acquire and because they don't give you enough or train you themselves to enhance your own dreams they pull the rug back out from under you. People love the idea that the military person is stuck being a military person until injury or removal from service due to. Even during my short tenure they stopped liking the idea that an E-5 could even retire from the military. Limiting roles and responsibilities holding people back from their dreams their education their pay etc. You could easily suggest that anyone paid to get a certificate should train pro bono or give to the military the training essentials so that they can be the best that they can be but again that's not what the military leadership would actually do. The leaders I met absolutely want to you hold you back hold you down to orders and obedience like a dog rather than a human with their own dreams goals and aspirations. Obviously, when the military doesn't make people work for them maybe we should go about this differently? Maybe we should develop raids into professors every year or teachers and force them to train us in the ways of? Maybe training such people shouldn't be costly other than time? I sort of understand how people look at the finances on the books and say why are we doing this? I also understand how people don't want people to grow. The entire system is made up of people who are held back by where they started not who they're or what skillsets or knowledge they possess and how to utilize that knowledge that skillset that asset efficiently and correctly vs simple obedience of do as your told. It's not a surprise that the system says you can't learn without money and you can't be given money to learn when the system was built on the backs of people who were forbidden the knowledge of reading writing arithmetic with risk of torture death etc as a result of such sought out knowledge. Until you remove the lords over top of you, you' will always be just their subject. The use of monetary value does make like easier and maybe that's the issue here? That the military should adopt ideas of how to accomplish the same goals or tasks without the monetary values associated with such? There is such a thing in capitalism as demand. The demand for things possibly increases the cost and so to reduce cost is to reduce demand? Or to create a problem for the demand so that while the demand truly exists it's not achievable anymore. It's moving the goal post yet again. Just out of reach.
So, you can’t get training now to transition out, eh? 🤔maybe it’s a retention plan? A dumb one, but par for the course.