Great video! Ive had the RF 24-240 for just under a week and am SO happy I found it on sale! I have mainly L Canon lenses which are incredible quality. However due to the weight... and wanting a travel "kit" that is lighter weight and still can produce amazing shots... the 24-240 somehow ended up on my screen and on sale! I snagged it and the day it arrived (also my birthday) it was sold out! Ive tested this out and am quite happy. I do have the 70-200 f2.8 and its a beauty lens, however wanting the range for traveling and lighter weight, the 24-240 is my best option. I also have the 24-105 f4L, which is also a fav lens of mine, and was going to be my travel go to - until I found the additional 135mm reach :) I would highly recommend the 24-240 for beginners and even seasoned photogs like myself - mom with a camera !
It's travel grab shots for me! Loved my 2012 Canon 600D (APS-C) + Tamron 18-270. Traveled around the world with that - literally. I now have the RP +24-240. Did some JPEG tests shots before buying. I've lost nothing. Opps - lost weight! FF 26MP @ 240mm and cropped is better than 18 MP APS-C un-cropped at 270! (and every other zoom setting!) Since added an R50 + 100-400. Africa is on the Bucket List No 3. (We've finished two lists already!) With flash, switch to USB chargers, common battery, etc, both in total are not much more in weight than my old gear and definitely far lighter than a suite of primes. I have RP + 24-240 in snoot bag with its own waist belt (quick and easy access) and the rest in a back pack. Bags are cheap to buy on EBAY and AliExpress. Too easy! Far better than my old brand name camera bag across my body or slipping off my shoulder. The 'secret' is mirrorless mount and in-camera lens corrections for JPEGS.
Just stumbled upon this, and initially I thought "What on earth is he doing with comparisons all the way at f/32? It actually makes a lot of sense to start at a small aperture where diffraction is a serious limitation, and gradually opening up that aperture to see where the sweet spot might be for the lens. A great comparison.
So which one did you choose … it sounds like the 24-240? I miss your input on the Fuji system but I am still watching to get your insights on the whole photography thing 😊
With a good camera you can fix a lot of these sharpness and focus aspects off the lens.. These lenses are very good.. The more quality expensive lenses doesn't need that fix
Looks like comparisons made with CRAW. A JPEG to JPEG comparison would be quite interesting. R series bodies do in camera lens corrections for JPEGS. Note: A. White / L series ? red ring lenses are expensive because aberrations are corrected when designing the lens, etc. They are for CRAW. B. The 24-240 is placed for JPEGS. It's cheaper to make because 1. Mirrorless mount (closer to sensor = smaller glass) and 3. No need for large apertures with an EV instead of TTL view . 3. In camera aberrations corrected by firmware for JPEGS (only) is much cheaper than perfecting the lens for CRAW. Suits me. Smart move. B. Bokeh is overrated for portraits. I've won portrait prizes without it. Also, there are other options / techniques to that 70-150mm/F1.4 / F1.8 portrait lens, even using the 24-240! Also a portrait that tells a story (think National Geographic and Time Magazine) will always beat a technically perfect skin pores revealing head shot with great bokeh. If you go for JPEGS, they are VERY good IQ straight out of the camera! That's the market for the 24-240 and why I bought it. If you go for CRAW, then pay more, get better IQ and lose versatility. Maybe also lose the shot whilst you change lenses, etc. When I went from my EV Fuji to a Canon mirror APS-C DSLR, I gained IQ (6MP to 18PM helped as well as a bigger sensor) but I lost the advantages of mirrorless. Glad to have it all back with RP and RF24-240.
Loved the video until the ending insults. I've been a photographer since you were in diapers and I appreciate all of the new and young photographers and their interests in bokeh and anything else they get excited about.
Bokeh is highly over-rated. I have two prizes that say so. Best in show (statewide) and the other best in category. Rich singles with 55mm lens. Probably F8 or F16. A portrait that tells a compelling story will beat bokeh any day. And that's what I had. Alsom, there are plenty of other ways to separate the subject matter from the surrounding, even using the 24-240! (Eg Remember 'dodging' in the darkroom? There's software for that now!)
The comparison is ridiculous. Comparing the 70-100 @ 70mm to the 24-240 @ 24mm is a stupid comparison. First, of course the wide angle 24mm focus at the corners is softer than the 70mm. A more realistic comparison would be both set to 70mm. Second, the useable range of the 70-200, with no wide angle, is limited compared to the 24-240, which is much more versatile. You cannot consider the 70-200 as a single lens solution, as you would need to add at least a 24mm and a 50mm lens, perhaps a 35mm, to have the same versatility as the one 24-240. This comparison and its premise is poorly considered and essentially useless for its stated objective decision making. Sorry, but this is a big miss IMHO.
As a mom, not a stupid comparison at all. He said the reasons he was comparing both. The 70-200 f4 has a fixed aperture, albeit doesn't have the same reach as the 24-240. Both are zoom lenses and depends what you are using them for. I personally have the 70-200 f2.8 and yet still got this 24-240 for a travel multi-purpose lens. Its reviews like this I appreciate and value others who expand their collection consciously. Hope you have the day you deserve!!!
Depends what you want to shoot. I have the 24-240 and very happy. Great travel 'grab shot' lens. No changing of lens, etc. Any loss of IQ (very small loss for JPEGS) is a very small trade off for the versatility on the 24-240. Regardless, need to discuss the in-camera body lens correction for JPEGS! Comparing CRAW is only half the 'picture' !
I've had the 24-240 for two years now and I am very happy with it. I use it as my daily driver. I have the 24-70 2.8 but I use it more rarely.
Me too. I've used zooms for 40 years. Now added R50 with RF 100-400 for occasional long reach.
Great video! Ive had the RF 24-240 for just under a week and am SO happy I found it on sale! I have mainly L Canon lenses which are incredible quality. However due to the weight... and wanting a travel "kit" that is lighter weight and still can produce amazing shots... the 24-240 somehow ended up on my screen and on sale! I snagged it and the day it arrived (also my birthday) it was sold out! Ive tested this out and am quite happy. I do have the 70-200 f2.8 and its a beauty lens, however wanting the range for traveling and lighter weight, the 24-240 is my best option. I also have the 24-105 f4L, which is also a fav lens of mine, and was going to be my travel go to - until I found the additional 135mm reach :) I would highly recommend the 24-240 for beginners and even seasoned photogs like myself - mom with a camera !
It's travel grab shots for me!
Loved my 2012 Canon 600D (APS-C) + Tamron 18-270. Traveled around the world with that - literally. I now have the RP +24-240. Did some JPEG tests shots before buying. I've lost nothing. Opps - lost weight! FF 26MP @ 240mm and cropped is better than 18 MP APS-C un-cropped at 270! (and every other zoom setting!) Since added an R50 + 100-400. Africa is on the Bucket List No 3. (We've finished two lists already!) With flash, switch to USB chargers, common battery, etc, both in total are not much more in weight than my old gear and definitely far lighter than a suite of primes.
I have RP + 24-240 in snoot bag with its own waist belt (quick and easy access) and the rest in a back pack. Bags are cheap to buy on EBAY and AliExpress. Too easy! Far better than my old brand name camera bag across my body or slipping off my shoulder.
The 'secret' is mirrorless mount and in-camera lens corrections for JPEGS.
Just stumbled upon this, and initially I thought "What on earth is he doing with comparisons all the way at f/32? It actually makes a lot of sense to start at a small aperture where diffraction is a serious limitation, and gradually opening up that aperture to see where the sweet spot might be for the lens. A great comparison.
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So which one did you choose … it sounds like the 24-240? I miss your input on the Fuji system but I am still watching to get your insights on the whole photography thing 😊
With a good camera you can fix a lot of these sharpness and focus aspects off the lens.. These lenses are very good.. The more quality expensive lenses doesn't need that fix
Thank you for this!
Looks like comparisons made with CRAW.
A JPEG to JPEG comparison would be quite interesting. R series bodies do in camera lens corrections for JPEGS.
Note:
A. White / L series ? red ring lenses are expensive because aberrations are corrected when designing the lens, etc. They are for CRAW.
B. The 24-240 is placed for JPEGS. It's cheaper to make because 1. Mirrorless mount (closer to sensor = smaller glass) and 3. No need for large apertures with an EV instead of TTL view . 3. In camera aberrations corrected by firmware for JPEGS (only) is much cheaper than perfecting the lens for CRAW. Suits me. Smart move.
B. Bokeh is overrated for portraits. I've won portrait prizes without it. Also, there are other options / techniques to that 70-150mm/F1.4 / F1.8 portrait lens, even using the 24-240! Also a portrait that tells a story (think National Geographic and Time Magazine) will always beat a technically perfect skin pores revealing head shot with great bokeh.
If you go for JPEGS, they are VERY good IQ straight out of the camera! That's the market for the 24-240 and why I bought it.
If you go for CRAW, then pay more, get better IQ and lose versatility. Maybe also lose the shot whilst you change lenses, etc.
When I went from my EV Fuji to a Canon mirror APS-C DSLR, I gained IQ (6MP to 18PM helped as well as a bigger sensor) but I lost the advantages of mirrorless. Glad to have it all back with RP and RF24-240.
Thanks, liked the “real world” type review and I get your humour! What did you end up going with, if any?
Did you hear about the Sigma 100-400mm
For Fuji.
No, but I have the 100-400 with R50. Also have the RP with 24-240. Love em both.
Loved the video until the ending insults. I've been a photographer since you were in diapers and I appreciate all of the new and young photographers and their interests in bokeh and anything else they get excited about.
Bokeh is highly over-rated. I have two prizes that say so. Best in show (statewide) and the other best in category. Rich singles with 55mm lens. Probably F8 or F16. A portrait that tells a compelling story will beat bokeh any day. And that's what I had. Alsom, there are plenty of other ways to separate the subject matter from the surrounding, even using the 24-240! (Eg Remember 'dodging' in the darkroom? There's software for that now!)
Lol, plazma & maybe a lobe of liver, i hear it grows back. I'll give up that stop of light, to save size & weight.
if you read your camera manual you will see that it explains it will loose focus sometimes when you re zooming in/out... its not a lens thing.
Doesn't focus also depend on the body? I know my R50 has a better focusing system than my RP. Have 24-240 and the 100-400. Mix and match FF lenses!
Price is not that much different. Or is it?
Huge difference
The L lens will always be more.
The comparison is ridiculous. Comparing the 70-100 @ 70mm to the 24-240 @ 24mm is a stupid comparison. First, of course the wide angle 24mm focus at the corners is softer than the 70mm. A more realistic comparison would be both set to 70mm. Second, the useable range of the 70-200, with no wide angle, is limited compared to the 24-240, which is much more versatile. You cannot consider the 70-200 as a single lens solution, as you would need to add at least a 24mm and a 50mm lens, perhaps a 35mm, to have the same versatility as the one 24-240. This comparison and its premise is poorly considered and essentially useless for its stated objective decision making. Sorry, but this is a big miss IMHO.
As a mom, not a stupid comparison at all. He said the reasons he was comparing both. The 70-200 f4 has a fixed aperture, albeit doesn't have the same reach as the 24-240. Both are zoom lenses and depends what you are using them for. I personally have the 70-200 f2.8 and yet still got this 24-240 for a travel multi-purpose lens. Its reviews like this I appreciate and value others who expand their collection consciously. Hope you have the day you deserve!!!
Depends what you want to shoot. I have the 24-240 and very happy. Great travel 'grab shot' lens. No changing of lens, etc. Any loss of IQ (very small loss for JPEGS) is a very small trade off for the versatility on the 24-240.
Regardless, need to discuss the in-camera body lens correction for JPEGS! Comparing CRAW is only half the 'picture' !
A great comparison