We Bought this "Junk" Twin Turbo Audi RS7 & took it Straight to the Dealership...
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We bought a super cheap Audi RS7 after it Failed to sell on Cars & Bids, and immediately took it to the dealer where we were quoted over $4,000 to fix all of its problems. Wait till you see how overpriced this quote was...
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Sam, this is honestly a solid channel. You do an excellent job of explaining repairs for DIYers. Everything is clear, concise down to the links for inexpensive tools and parts. I don’t think you get enough appreciation. Thanks for all the great info!
Thank you very much!
@@Samcraci like how he shills subscription products and dangerous brake mods like a cheapskate
Love it how he exposes the dealers and their overpriced services.
For those interested in the OBD2 scanner, read the fine print for the one Sam's using before committing to the purchase. It will become a brick after the first year if you don't spend another $50 to renew the subscription every year after that. Probably still worth it if you work on cars a lot...
Yeah, 50$/year is not that bad. I would not mind, even if i only work on my one car. Especially if that scanner can really do all the things advertised here.Hell, even Carly is more expensive than that (at least in France)
That also assumes the company stays around long enough to keep the service running...
I saw that right before I bought it, and didn’t buy it.
Thanks for the headsup!
Been looking for an affordable scanner hence I had a early Carly for Android, but now swapped to an Iphone..
Still a good deal, as most of these things cant do VAG oil change resets and similar. You need an 800 dollar autel for this usually.
You need a cheap digital caliper set. You could check the thickness of the rotors yourself and know if they are worth refinishing or replacing.
The dealership wanted over $5k to replace the rotors and brakes on my Audi. I bought 'custom' rotors from a supplier (whom I wouldn't recommend even though the rotors came out fine), new pads + braided lines, scan tool and misc parts/tools for under $3k total. Audi uses a very soft steel on their rotors, so they tend to score and groove worse than other brands or aftermarket.
Additionally, an odd thing about Audi (at least mine) the rear brakes wear a lot faster than the front. The theory is that the adaptive cruise control and low speed braking use the rear brake bias to slow the car so you don't have that jerky lurch forward in stop and go traffic.
VW Group cars all bias braking to the rear, so the rear pads always wear out first. I've owned 4 of their cars and all 4 needed rear brakes done well before the fronts.
the rear brake is also used as a parking brake as well
all my cars always needed front pads way before the rears but not my VW. that car wore out rear pads before the front. as a side note I suspected the dealer did not rotate my tires because the brake dust was significantly worse on the front after the rotation. turns out becuse the rear brakes work so hard the rear wheels get more brake dust than the front ones. only car I've ever owned that does this.
@@robertzalnis3162 Bought a vintage VW super beetle once. Same issue. Maybe the previous owner was driving it backwards?
@@robertzalnis3162 My wife's 2010 Q5 front brakes get worse dust than the back discs. I get to clean the wheels....
BMW dealer tech here, some of the prices we charge are insane. We’re at price level 14 on parts (that means 14 levels over MSRP) and over $260 an hour in labor. A normal front and rear brake job with pads and rotors can go for over $3k for just a regular every day car. M cars are an even bigger price hike. It’s absolutely crazy
People need to stop buying bmw cars. 😢
LOL $1K on ECS tuning gives you good rotors and ceramic pads and you'll need the VAGCOM (or this OBD-2 Tool) to do the back brakes. IDK how you guys are spending $3K on pads and rotors for Audis LMAO Unless you have the RS6, RS7, or R8 platforms it doesn't make sense.
The A-Line Audis don't.
You can reset the oil change message yourself. There are two messages that you are mixing up. "Inspection Due" and "Service Due". The "Service Due" message you can reset yourself by clicking "Car" by MMI panel, clicking the bottom left quadrant button, "Servicing and Checks", click "Service Intervals", scroll to bottom and click "Reset oil change interval". Takes about 30 seconds at most.
The "Inspection Due" you do have to reset with a VCDS/VAG-COM scanner, but the "Service due" oil change message you can do without any scanner. I also recommend changing the coding from 10,000 mile interval to 5,000 interval so everytime you reset the intervals, they start at 5,000 miles and not 10,000.
17:37 PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ
Sam, you're truly a man of culture 🤝
Turn yo clique up right after
You don’t know that one do ya but Sam sure does
@@nickmarshall2676 ok nerd
lmao that song is different
Came right to the comment section when I saw this 😂
This video is why I like you, you encourage people to do their own work and not always have to replace parts. And you show how to do it with the right tools. You also have a great attitude towards it. Well done man. Thanks.
I think it was a good temporary solution. Definitely replace the rotors at some point down the line.
They were not even that worn and still perfectly fine! You can measure them to know when need replacements
Agreed. I think it’s safe to do this one time. After that replace the rotors. Still a 50% savings on $700 rotors which brings it to what is in my opinion, a reasonable number
@@p__jay I’m hoping they will last a brake pad cycle. It’s just to make sure he’s safe.
Nope he should have replaced them theres a massive lip near the hub of the rotor
@@jamesclark4 haha thats far from "massive"
Development engineer for radars here :) To calibrate the radars you can pop off the cap and use the mirror behind it with a simple cross laser. Park on flat surface, and use a target board in from of the vehicle with a mark at the same height with the mirror. For horizontal alignment, you can just use a tube behind the rear wheels and get that axis projected to the front, and you can set the distance between the mirror and the reflected laser vertical line to be parallel with that. This is the simplest way usually, and if your radar doesn't have a mirror but a flat front face, you can still attach a small mirror with a piece of tape on top of that.
complicated as fuck
Haha "engineer here" is the saying when everything becomes more complicated and obnoxious than it needs to be.
Easier said than done.
Bro…. What?
I didn’t understand any of that but thanks for sharing
I've been doing this kind of craigslist brake rebuild since before craigslist. Works like a champ!
Here in New Zealand you can call a brake skimming company, they remove the rotors and skim off the ridges
There are still places in the US that do it too. I’m sure the dealers don’t but other places do. Not sure what he is talking about.
@@jimhimes3506 At our dealership we resurface rotors at most once and only if there isn't a huge lip on the rotor. These rotors I definitely wouldn't skim. They're very thin to keep weight down so by the time you resurface you may be at minimum spec, and also the shape will interfere with our resurfacing machine. We only resurface regular rotors.
Sam doesn't know about Mexico and the zillion things that he can do here for much much less money.
At autozone where I am they offer rotor resurfacing
Only makes sense for expensive rotors though
Sam can’t resist a ‘bargain’ but it always makes for good watching
Can see the cracks in the rotors 😂 Tight arse
@@presleyshand4156where? Some pitting sure, definitely no issue. You idiots are funny.
@@notsoeloquent 11:08 obvious
@@presleyshand4156 You need a better screen. It's Black Friday so help yourself.
From everything I understood that he was in debt. A shame. Why does he want to be a slave to the bank with something he doesn't need? It even shows us how much it has to give back. RUclips has taken his brain.
I love your Chanel. I like how you show regular tools everyone has. Makes me think I could do something like this 😂🤣😂
Nicely done. You are kicking out some quality content lately. Keep it up chicken boy.
I think the ball hone is fine as long as the rotors aren't warped and the thickness is within spec. The ball will take off any glaze and help the pads seat.
Did he do the backside?
@@Blasterxp Who doesn't?
@@markg.2501 He didn't appear to pull the rotors and started the car to make it easier, so I'd say HE didn't
@@Blasterxp theres a short sequence in the video where he does the inner side of the brake rotor
Rotors don’t warp
Great vid, thanks Sam. Audi engineers are the best, no question about it. They managed to develop an interchangeable steering wheel from left to right and back at the touch of a button 18:09...
Now that you mention it...he's also driving on the left side of that highway...LOL
Great looking Audi, alot of high tech, takes a smart guy like you Sam to do it, I really enjoy watching you go thru all of the steps, the rotors on the rear are a safety thing if you're going to keep the car then your fine, but if you're selling the car then you should replace them. Great video Sam keep up the good content.
You are putting out excellent videos. Keep up the good work!
I never knew a Honing-Tool for a rotors existed. THANKS SAMCRAC!!! You are the best Good-Sir!
you gotta be careful: if you don't keep it even you'll get pedal pulse since the surface of the rotor isn't even.
119k miles on a modern Audi? Thats got to be some kind of record!
The 4.0tt is extremely strong and it has the zf 8 speed. I wouldn't hesitate.
@@eazyfabriziu sure ? I saw is 7spd DCT , zf 8spd is bmw bro
Anything over 60,000 is dangerous for Germans
I have 240654 on my Audi allroad
@@k-dawg587spd DCT is the S6/7. The RS7 is the zf because the dual clutch couldn’t handle the torque.
Always informative.... Great job
Brave man! From the logic to the technique 💪🏿
6:50 Most likely causing an open. Technically this is resistance. It is infinite resistance.
Ask a lightning bolt about "infinite resistance" 😆
Nice work. Those rotors WILL need to be replaced one day, but being single piston rears (I'm surprised at that) it may actually be 5 years before you need to do that!
Thanks for the video you really open my eyes on what can be done by watching videos by you and other people on here . Just goes to show you how dealers rip people off
Always enjoy watching your videos mate. Keep going and I just bought one of those obd scanners. Can't believe how cheap it was.
I just got this like a week ago. I have used so many different scan tools, and many that are the inexpensive Bluetooth to your phone type.
Almost every Bluetooth one comes with some compromise, either they can't scan all systems or they can only do it on a few makes. This one is truly a game changer and it's price point is insane. The next cheapest one that's as capable as this one is around $400 that I found. So far I've used it on 2 Range Rovers, and this Audi and its been 👍👍👍
@@Samcracso Carly is a no go now?
@@Jmoraaevery time I've shown Carly I always mentioned how good it is specifically for VW, Audi, and BMW. They've recently expanded it's capability to include more models, but with the release of this Topscan, so far, the Topscan outshines it in most metrics. Topscan is a bit more "technical," and Carly might have an easier interface, but Topscan can do more, on more cars, for less money.
find disc specs and measure thickness to see if they are within wear limits
I'd even question that. Why? Because I wouldn't put it past an OEM to say "replace replace replace" new rotors even if they are only worn 1mm off new.
New rotors: 8.7295 mm
MUST REPLACE ROTORS DANGER DANGER DANGER when the rotors are 8.2235 mm
Definitely measure the minimum thickness of those rotors, as long as there in spec and you don't have abnormal vibration your brake job should be just fine.
I agree 💯 measure them and stick the new pads in there are people out there that can skim and check balance on your disks 👍🏴
Love it!! I did my brakefluid alone and ran out of fluid and didn't notice and I think I damaged my system.. never felt them back as tight as before.. cayenne S 6 pistons per caliper.. whahhh so recommendation is to have plenty of brake fluid on your reservoir!!! GREAT JOB MAN!!!
I ordered two of the vacuum’s and the tire inflator using your links. The vacuums just arrived at my door. These will really come in handy!
Great car, great service from Audi!...just make sure there's an active recall otherwise they'll gut you 😉
Everything else though is great, it's good to know that even modern luxury cars which are unfairly locked behind repair walls can be fixed with some creative thinking
One of the best things about this channel is doing a lot of the work yourself, showing that we can actually still look after our cars with a little research and a small investment in the right tools.
LOVE your channel!!!!! I appreciate your brilliant logic and genius hacks
Thanks for doing an Audi ! I have 2 2005 Audi allroad 2.7 twin turbo avants , love the cars but working on them is extremely difficult because of the over engineered way they put them together. I know it's an old car now but it would be nice if you could show the tricks to taking them apart. You do make the best car repair videos ! Period.❤
I’ve had an 04 Allroad and a 06 a4 wagon. I really want to get another Allroad because of the interior space but the cost of repairs is leaning towards another A4😢😢
Sam’s content been great lately
i work at Audi Tampa LOL! Was shocked to see our lot in this video. Nice RS7 Sam ive been a fan since the S600 days.
I agree with everything you say in this video and I love how you go about breaking down and doing the jobs yourself on the cheap. I technically been doing the same thing but on my Diesel Volkswagen in my 1.8 Volkswagen and my two girls mini Cooper and BMWs, don’t go to the dealership for anything. Keep it up. I want RS seven now by the way or the Audi A4 wagon older one.
Damn Sam, I remember that other RS7 with the nice ass remote exhaust you had.. that video was in my head when I bought this car. I loved it for the few months I had it. Cars and bids was no luck for me and what was supposed to be a quick flip turned into a money pit but I’m glad you were able to get a good deal on this.. even if it was at my expense 🤣👍🏾
That was the car Rich got
I like the idea of the ball hone on the rotors so long as they are within spec. New rotors cost $700/ea. I agree, new car manufacturers are designing their new cars to maximize service revenue.
Thanks for the video Sam. Always very interesting.
One of the best picture quality videos i have seen in months.👍
You don't need a brake rotor turning tool to turn the rotors. Any standard manual lathe with a 15"+ swing will surface them. Then once surfaced, you have the lathe spinning slow, and give the rotor a gentle buff with a 40 or 60 grit flapper wheel. Cover your lathe bed with newspaper before you do that.
I have not read all of the comments on this, but I was wondering about why you couldn't just have these rotors turned either with a lathe designed for this purpose or a conventional lathe like you suggest.
The most important question about your rotors is what was the measurement of how thick the rotors were? All manufacturers give a limit to wear on rotors (discs). If the rotors are below the minimum measurement then they have to be changed.
And just out of interest, how did you manage to do the backside of the rotor with the honing tool?
he was keeping it where the caliper sits.
Those rotors are way under spec for sure .
I was wondering g the same thing about the backside of the rotor!
@@stuartfact8361 Me three. Backs of the rotors would still be in rough shape, right?
Haha... Me four!
Enjoyed it, thanks fir all the hints!
We need a walk around Sam, talk us through the plans for all your cars, it’s been a while since we had a video doing this? Great video keep up the hard work
The dealerships need to wake up. With new car prices soaring service costs need to stay down or you'll drive customers away. There loss is a private shops gain. Great video as always. Hope you have a Happy and safe Thanksgiving Sam and everyone else who reads this.
They've thought of that, and now make many service jobs impossible to do except at the dealership.
I think most of the people who would purchase a car like this new make an amount of money that they would lose money by spending time doing the repair. The dealer hopes to get its money out of the first couple owners before the car ends up mechanically totaled. hilariously the insane used car market will keep cars like this on the road a lot longer than in the past.
I always recommend looking up the cost of things like tires and brakes, before buying a car. When I was in my 20's, I worked at some independent and dealer auto shops and you'd be surprised how many people driving their first sports sedan or car didn't understand how much more everything cost.
been considering either a rs5 or rs7. awesome vids.
Make Sam an offer?
I used flap disc on my rusty rotors. Works great.
Sam championing DIY car maintenance across the globe. Love it.
Doing your own brake rotor work is fine, but what about the back side of them? I pull them off and use a good old grinder with an easy grit to not grind the heck out of them. I'm mostly getting the ridges off the inside and outside of the rotor on both sides of the rotor.
We did the backs that's why I showed the inside
I think these cars are beautiful. If I wasn't so scared of the maintenance I'd buy one.
So long as they aren't warped and well under spec, I'm all for it. Thanks for the tip!
Thank you so much for your awesome content and links. Ordering the scan tool for my 958 Cayenne 👍🦅🇺🇸
There are still shops around that will turn rotors, they are just not as easy to find these days. Also, did not see the back side "buffed" with the DIY tool, but I imagine you could have done that. One last note: the intake cleaning is advised on GDI cars and requires a special abrasive service (I think they shoot nut shells through it). I don't think Seafoam works on GDI, but would love your opinion or LegitStreetCars guy's opinion.
It doesn’t work for intake valve cleaning. They’ll sell it to you, but the results are next to nill. Walnut blasting, hand tool scraping is the best practice with direct, visible and performance, results.
SAM! Did you check the tolerance specs on the rotors and get an at least rough measurement on them?
Sam love the content keep cranking em out!
You should find a shop, who recuts the rotors. Usually there should be a number in the casting with the minimum thickness. You replace the cheap ones, but this type is worth recutting.
I’m skeptical of the calibration on the ACC sensors. Given that it’s a safety system that’s not something I’d want to test myself. The labor they were charging was insane we do it much cheaper at my work.
He put it within spec, and we know the system refuses to engage when out of spec so I don't see any issue.
The amount of money you saved working on the car yourself is insane....i love it
I ordered the odb2 reader. Great video!
Great vid! Love your channel
Do not hone your pads if they are below minimum thickness! You can see from the width of those rotors i'd say they're well past replacement. On the hub you should see a min thickness spec which will outline the minimum thickness of these rotors before they need replacing. I wouldn't recommend anybody mess around with this for something as important as brakes on a high performance RS7! Also the rotor has two sides so honing one side like this isn't going to make much of a difference.
the rear rotor are not as thick as the front.he will be fine for another year.for sure he will sell the car not his problem.
I have an Audi 2015 A8 4LT that has just 33k miles on its clock and all service has been followed & done by the dealership under factory warranty bought the car & took it straight to a certified APR chip reflash tune to make sure it was not going to void my factory service warranty. Breaks just replaced under warranty & replaced the battery. The best car I have ever owned, I love the massaging seats that save my compressed disc back every time I have to drive long distance. MSRP on my Audi was 116k. A 2 year lease return that I picked up for $49.500.00 when it had 24K miles on its clock.
Appreciate the content you make. Per your comment of oil reset, I've done so on 2 of our 3 VWs. The Service light and Inspection light are separate, if that matters.
With that pad to rotor cost ratio keep throwing pad at is as long as the stoping is good. One rotor pays for 20 sets of pads.
Ya if you buy those turd pads
Sam, it’d be great if you had some kind of sticky on your channel with the recommended tools and devices that you use in your repairs for us to refer back to as your videos progress in time.
Thanks for the idea!
Happy Holidays 🦃 Samcrac ( everyone ) thanks for the vids 🎬🔥👍
I have a Golf R and I can reset the oil change interval. Always a pleasure watching your videos and you have nice vehicles. What year is the RS7?
Great job Sam keep up the good work.
Doing the brake scrub is similar to re-cutting tyres. If there is enough material to work with and it's within safe limits after the refurb it's ok. Good job, Sam.
Didn’t see him doing the backside of those rotors.
@@robertf9521 @10:30 he's clearly under the car doing the opposite side.
When you turn rotors, the tolerances are very finely set. If you randomly hone a rotor it will likely vibrate.
Heck yeah! Perfect solution for the rotors
sams the man always a good original video
If the discs are still thick enough, they can be smoothed on a metal lathe. People do this often.
Greetings from POLAND!!! Just want to point out one thing to you matey! - in this tool for bleeding brakes you should have pressure regulator which means you open valve (that used to put pressure in) fully and use a knob to set to desired pressure. Then it will keep the set pressure for whole process of bleeding without need to check it anymore. Just wanted to let u know coz have same thing. Regards
I see you Sam!!! The song puffin on zooties on the radio 17:31 ! Shout out to future !
Thanks Sam. another great one!
Replace vs honing all comes down to how much rotor was left. If they were within spec, then no need to replace, imo.
Do you see the big groove in the disk? They are way past the minimum. I alomst have never seen a disk that worn, and he still tries to cheap out...my God.
@@karlos1060 You must work for VAG....
@@karlos1060 nonsense
@@matthiasweigel311 It's clear you know nothing about regulations...thats fine.
@@Charlie_Crown the only nonscense is your word.
If Matt Armstrong's latest Audi video is anything to go by, these engines are NOT meant to be worked on. Garbage to the average mech without a lift.
Only thing i learned from his audi is that american petrol is garbage
Or the certified 9hr job required to swap the starter motor? FFS Germans!! @@trw8777
Is this the most you've spent on a car?
Great video on what not to do at a stealership and what you can do on your own.
Those rotors looked like they had a fair amount of meat left on them. As long as they are reasonably within spec your golden. A new set maybe down the road but enjoy your ride Alex. Happy Thanksgiving
So what about the inner side??? Be more corroded than outer 😮
He said he did the backs.
Oh God Sam, what have you got yourself into?😶😶
Absolutely nothing. He bought a car at a great price, will have fun times driving step mom around, sell it later… he’s alive.
@banannamobbs yeah people just scared to fix their own shit and are dumb like bricks.... most of these super expensive cars to fix are no more expensive then a corolla.
where I live you take the rotors out to a rectifying machine. Sometime they bend or warp on winters. They do this job until the allowed thickness is no more supported
Thanks Sammy. Always learn something.
Wouldn't touch a modern audi with a barge pole.
breaks are simple, when they start do make TERRIBLE noises, it's time to change.
I waited till that happened and then I waited a few more days cuz I’m lazy and it stained of of my wheels with rust. It’d baked on from the heat
21:51 You can also get rid of this smell by using a long tube (I've used vacuum silicone line before) and spray a disinfectant like Lysol or something that kills bacteria down the vents. (Just lightly a little goes a long way) Then run the heater for about ten minutes or longer. Don't run the A/C when doing this as it is the reason we get that smell from the condensation left in the vents. You can even avoid the smell happening by turning your A/C off for two minutes after you've been driving it with it on and when you park switch it over to non A/C high fan even better use the heater to dry up the condensation in the vents .
I had a 2015 short-wheelbase Audi A8 with the 4.0TT engine. Bought it in early 2017 with about 28k miles on it. Really nice car in great shape with every option imaginable. Drove it for 2.5 years and changed the oil at the dealer according to the recommended schedule. Turbos failed at 68k miles - luckily the car was bought in Rhode Island, which is a CARB state. The turbo replacement was fully covered under a 7/70 CARB state emissions warranty. Saved me about $12k in repair costs.
Great job, Sam!!
I like that b sensor wire idea. Congrats on your purchase ✌️
Sam, I wish I had your videos when I was young. Thanks, I love all your videos.
Exact same way I fixed the acc on my 21 sq7. I used obd11 and manually adjusted it the sensor. Dealer wanted 1200 as recalibration requires an all wheel alignment
Great video and seems as a good deal.
After clearing the service code, are you going to perform an Oil change?
Do you miss your old RS7 you gave to Rich?
Just bought that brake flush kit. Great info, thanks!
Glad it helped
I'm glad a friend of mine bought a brake lathe from Grand Auto when it closed. Cleaned many a rotor and drums.
I need your playlist Sam. That Bluetooth was playing some bangers.😋
You got a killer deal on an amazing, very fast vehicle. RS7 is my dream car. Amazing luxury and speed all in one.