My favourite part was Max only giving the barest of answers in the official press conference that followed, and then holding his own personal press conference afterwards. especially when the FIA tried to stop him, and he simply replied "fine, we'll do it on the move then" and had a mobile press conference.
It's OK, they're on a private RUclips channel, not a live broadcast on pre-watershed television. They're also not professional sportsmen paid millions to act as role models.
@@adrianhjordan1981 Oh yeah forgot F1 drivers drivers are meant to be saintly like nuns and never say a naughty word ever. If they do they need to flog themselves to atone for their sins.
I just came here to say I'm really surprised he's still in a job. The amount of controversy and own goals he's created. I can't see him staying too long
lol poor you the FIA doesn’t allow swearing in post race press conferences for the last 70 years. People’s rights to swear in an official interview is more important than the rules.
Swearing is bad. But racing in countries with active missile strikes, human rights violations, genocides being done by the government and tracks being built with slave labour? That's a-okay. Children are watching F1, so swearing is bad. But Alcohol, Crypto and Gambling sponsorships are good.
Exactly, the hypocrisy is astounding. We are okay to race in places where they behead people and throw minorities in concentration camps but heavens forbid someone says a naughty word.
@@davids8127 Max lives in that house too. Or is it that the dad is man the cut the meat on Sunday when he is there and the rest of the week nobody sees him.
“We're not rappers, you know. They say the F-word how many times per minute? We are not on that. That's them and we are [us].” - Mohammed Ben Sulayem Arguably the stupidest things ever said in F1 context by a person in the position of power. Just goes to show how out of touch with reality FIA is.
When you don’t know the world you’re managing F1 like it or not was built on cigarettes alcohol promiscuity and swearing Daredevils dancing with death Now security changed a bit the risk of dying even tho still there in low percentage It was never a kid show it was never meant to be Barney and kids stuff So trying to change the essence of the sport will make the sport dull and eventually their followers
F1 doesn’t get involved in politics. If they did then they wouldn’t race in any country except Singapore and Japan. It’s not like Europe and America is any better 😂
Fia president is their servant. What more you expect from him! In few years he will ban champagne spraying too and will tell every female staff in F1 to wear burqa.
Wait, So FIA profits from squeezing emotions from a extremely competitive environment, but wants to limit the language for subjective reasons coming from its president. That’s like blaming your pot for having so many bubbles while boiling anything.
No, Liberty Media as the commercial rights holders profits. The FIA is forbidden by the European parliament to commercially benefit from the championships they also govern.
mate give me a break! Balestre and prost were outright and in full view of the public stealing race wins and championships! And just to remind you thats Jean-Marie Balestre im talking about the ex FiA president during the senna and prost years and beyond. or would you like to talk about the rampant corruption of the mosley era? This shite now? its amateur hour compared to what we have seen. 25+ years watching eh? were you asleep???
@@paperplane-db8qf He's pushing whatever gives him more control over the sport. adding another team doesn't just dilute the funds, but also the power. Just cause i agree with him on something doesn't mean we agree for the same reasons.
What rules? This one has existed for 70 years btw. Sharia law to not swear in a press conference 😂. Why don’t you go swear at school or in a job interview and see how that goes 👍
Exactly !! The comment you put needs to be the most liked. This is exactly it. There's no sense in it. There's no discussion. It's just an iron fist. F**king ridiculous (See what I did there😬)
We had this back around 2011/2012 when the interviews on the podium first started. I remember a few drivers swearing in the interviews, and a grown up approach being taken by asking them to stop, without such a heavy handed approach. Its worked 99% of the time since
I think all has to do with the register you should adapt depending on the circumstances... we all do in your daily lives I'm sure. A chill Thursday press conferences is not the same as when they're actually racing and being on the podium sits somewhere between these two situations. Punishments like the one Max got are silly and counterproductive, just remind everyone to be mindful about it and move on.
Even Verstappen apologize immediately after swearing. Like I get its not something to do in a interview but they are grown ups. At a minimum talk with them before the punishment
My father burst into flames when he heard a swear word before the 9pm watershed many years ago... it was many years ago but the family still haven't recovered from it. Swearing kills.
I cringe SOOOO hard when Crofty has to say "Apologies if you heard any colourful language and sorry for any offence this might have caused" Like... are you fucking serious?!?! Ohhhh nooo!! Im sooo offended!!! Someone used a word of the English language!! How ever will I cope?! It's pathetic
They have to do that because of specific UK broadcasting rules for certain airing periods. I don't like it but knowing the context now, it does make sense.
They should take after Ronald McIntosh on the boxing. On Saturday night, he had to apologise for language coming from the ring, but Ronald then said that you can understand it within the heat of the moment.
its time for Alex Albon to reach into his SEA heritage and unleash the full power of South East Asian swearing. SEA people swear in so many languages FIA gonna need a linguist to check for swearing
The last time I watched Drive to Survive (don't worry, I only watched the 1st two seasons), swearing was all part of the show. Gunther Steiner was made a star, in no small part, because of his constant swearing. Noticing this, in the 2nd season, Christian Horner then started to unnecessarily swear. Toto Wolff, from the beginning, also sweared more often than a French sailor. Yet, Drive to Survive is seen as a *HUGE* success. So, which one is it? Are the F1 stars supposed to swear for Drive to Survive, or not supposed to swear for the FIA? You can't have it both ways. Oh, and one last question... Why is Ben Sulayem still the president of the FIA?
The Americans and FIA are doing their utmost to destroy the sport of F1, mainly by not understanding what it is really about. This is a great example of that. Max handled the situation with grace!
America is the only nation on Earth with free speech. Good try though. What does America have to do with the Saudi Royals? The Saudis are one of our biggest rivals. So, why don’t you explain to us “what it is really about” 😘
Two thoughts: 1) Everyone says 'swearing' like it is universally understood what is and isn't swearing. In the global world of F1 what words, phrases, remarks would be considered off limits? 2) This is 2024 where many of us purchase directly the F1 TV app so that we can get access to all the amazing content beyond just the basic mainstream media broadcast. Either put a simple TV-MA warning on your subscription streaming, or tell the licensees that are rebroadcasting in each country/region to do the work to police their content to their customers.
To partially answer Point 1, I'd imagine it at least covers George Carlin's 7 Words You Can't Say On Television (i.e. f**k, sh*t, p*ss, c*cks***er, motherf***er, c**t & t*ts)
I get not swearing in a press conference, that's totally reasonable and would be expected in any ither job - when you're in front of clients/customers, keep it clean. But when you're actually dling the job, say what you like within reason. Team radios where we get to hear some frustration and emotion are great. MBS is coming across as foolish and petty, Max handled it perfectly with his outside press conference
This week in F1 news has been the biggest nothing burger in F1 history. The FIA having a fit over swearing and people calling Daniel Ricciardo’s fastest lap into question.
Saudi oil company money is fine, tobacco money is fine, alcohol money is fine, but good heavens don't let the children think that an adult said a swear word!!!!!!
The requirement to watch your language on press conferences is reasonable, it happens in other sports too. During the races is fine as long as you don't use slurs for instance.
How about this, you think swearing in a live press conference that is broadcast at a time when children are watching is fine, stop watching F1. There was not a problem with swearing even 10 years ago. This is a modern issue that is a symptom of a larger erosion of basic decency and manners in society. I suppose you're fine if they use the C word as well?? Or is your arbitrary line drawn at the F word?
@@tuna5618Last I checked, kids aren't going out and buying oil in the playground. They can't go and buy alcohol. As for Tobacco money, that hasn't been in F1 for nearly 20 years....a time when swearing wasn't a problem because F1 drivers acted like the professionals they are supposed to be.
@@adrianhjordan1981 If you think F1 drivers and teams never swore in the past... do I have a bridge for sale for you. I do agree with you that people shouldn't swear in the formal broadcast situations, like media sessions.
Thet problem in my eyes is that Mohammed Ben Sulayem is a strict orthodox religious person. thus his vulnerable ears hurt when people don't fully and actively agree with his worldview.
FIA needs to learn about respecting its drivers as grown ups and also viewing their audiences as grown ups. We the audience by and large can take the f word. And don't talk about children. My son knew all the swearing words in my language when he was 6. Not from home, although some of them, but mainly from the school yard.
“Using ableist language’ 😂 Tell me you’re insufferably left wing without telling me you’re insufferably left wing. Next time try and get in the fact you’re a vegan as well
A hypothetical no-swearing scenario: "The driver's car suffered a puncture while he was travelling at 185mph, rolled 17 times and a piece of carbon fibre became embedded in his torso. Obviously in distress the driver came onto the radio and exclaimed: "Oh bother! It seems I'm in a bit of a pickle here, I do hope some marshals are on scene soon as it appears I've made a bit of a woopsie!""
It's ridiculous to ban swearing while racing at 300kph. Just don't broadcast it. But not swearing during interviews when they've had plenty of time to cool down is really not a big ask.
FIA's stance on swearing becomes even more comical with rally. Whenever a rally driver loses his temper due to mechanical failures or coming close to dying, or coming close to killing someone else, the FIA will throw a few thousand euro suspended fine at the driver. Because you are not allowed to show human emotions.
Isn’t the simple answer to not broadcast the moments when they swear? The whole hearing from the driver mid race is a relatively new thing. Drivers have probably been swearing to their teams for years.
I think you have hit the nail on the head by trying to be funny. Yes, Verstappen needs to act more maturely and behave like an adult. Spoiled brat comes to mind.
@@davidmatthews3093 it's just you, losing yourself in the blind hate towards Verstappen. Maybe grow up and try to be objective about a situation and not let your emotions and feelings about one person get in the way of rational thinking. Maybe just try it once, then you won't come across as incredibly smallminded.
Because they know Liberty Media will refuse to stop airing the swear words. And Liberty holds the rights to F1 so pissing them off can mean FIA get removed from stewarding F1. So FIA goes after the drivers instead.
In an official F1 press conference, keep it professional and respect the obligations. When we are eavesdropping on their radio messages, we are an observer only... and it is a privilege. We don't get to dictate anything.
Not swearing in the FIA press conferences makes sense, but if you are going to broadcast radio chatter then you need to understand that you are going to get what you get.
What also always seems to be overlooked is the fact that when English isn't your native tongue the word "Fuck" doesn't have the same connotation as to native speakers
It has nothing to do with it language perception, it's just cultural and depending on your own ideology. The American conservatives have a huge problem with it and they try to make it seem like it's an objective thing that everybody espouses. Dutch people don't mind at all. I'm Greek and the word fuck has exactly the same connotations with our equivalent γαμώ. It can be used in all ways from offence to praise to surprise and nobody but the most conservative people mind it, with the exception of the performative civility of TV. It's mostly a puritanical effort by some people to impose some "values" that are almost purely a facade. In short absolutely nobody hear would feel offended if you said "my car is fucked", in whatever language.
@@PinkAsAPistol to a point I agree, but you can't dismiss the cultural connotation. In Dutch we swear a lot with diseases. For example you can call someone a "kankerlijer" which is literally translated to cancer-sufferer. This is considered very offensive in Dutch. My non-Dutch native coworkers consider it not nearly as offensive as natives do.
It’s not even on the list! There is nothing immoral about swearing so long as it isn’t aimed at someone, which in most cases in F1 including this one it’s not. In some cultures it’s mildly impolite - that’s about it.
The funny thing about this whole swearing matter is that there's technology to bleep out swearing, especially if it's something that is televised. Or if that's somehow out of reach for F1, maybe don't air the parts where swearing is involved which F1 and FOM have control over? The irony is that DTS airs these radio messages uncensored. Literally the reason anyone would know for sure Leclerc used the f-word in Monaco 2022 was because of the trailer for DTS Season 5 that showed that moment without the bleeping. You didn't even need to look it up anymore, DTS literally throws swear words in your direction in all its glory. And even with all that...swearing? Really? Let's be real here one way or another children are going to hear swear words whether in songs, movies, etc. And if you're watching F1, a place that can brew swearing with the high-intensity environment, it's a hazard you take just as how you are exposing children to potentially catastrophic crashes like Silverstone 2022 or Bahrain 2020. If you don't want your children to hear swearing, then don't let them watch these things, especially the press conference where literally nothing of interest to children is happening.
Love Max's honesty he really only cared for one World Title and the others are just extras. Unlike Lewis who is petty around certain things Max keeps it real to the point!
Lmao, you describe the king of petty behaviour, Max, as not being petty 😂😂😂 Max used unacceptable language and then acted like the petulant child he always is when held accountable for it.
Part of the FIA’s role is to champion road safety around the world and part of doing this is to discourage road rage. If MBS’s own F1 world champion is f’ing and blinding at every opportunity, it’s not exactly a great look nor a great example to ordinary motorists and future motorists. They’ll think, ‘well Max Verstappen loses his shit and drives people off the road so I can too”. I agree swearing should be reduced and this has been communicated badly by MBS, however, Max knew exactly what he was doing. He knew defying the FIA would make him more popular amongst fans and the media. Personally, I think both Max and MBS have handled this poorly, both extremely petty.
It's not just about swearing, it's also about better understanding the drivers and teams by hearing what they're really saying. The whole point of broadcasting team radio at all is to give a candid look into what is going on and how the teams operate, how the drivers think. You deprive the audience of that when you arbitrarily curtail their language, which makes the sport itself less interesting to watch.
Ultimately it's up to the F1 tv rights holders to decide what they broadcast. Lets not all forget how much Gunther Steiner is celebrated for using the F word
The line between being celebrated and being mocked is very thin in his case. It ends up being sad that nevermind his performance as team principal, he'll be remembered basically for having been a pottymouth.
The grid girls were just silly and of their time. Did it really add anything? I’m a dad of two girls who might want to race one day. Glad they’re gone. No swearing in press conferences totally legit, no swearing in the heat of the moment in the cockpit. Absolutely fucking ridiculous
No it does not have a swearing problem in the fact that he compared it to rappers is hilarious considering every rap sentence contains like two swearwords that's coming from a black American
”Is it worth it?” Ridicolous! I think its fair to demand of a sports-star to avoid swearing on public media. Is that really too much to ask of someone making 100:s of millions a year?! Verstappen is acting lika a spoild child and should appoligize to the sport and the public.
Formula 1 TV has a choice to play or not to play a drivers radio messages that contains swearing. If swearing is banned, then just do not play that particular radio message (either with or without bleeping) - I think this is only really necessary for LIVE content. Radio message are not live, replays are not live Netflix Drive to survive was not live....
Maybe we should ban the FIA president from F1? 😇 But on a more serious note: he's trying to act all righteous with this, like drivers are role models and swearing sets bad example for kids. But on the other hand those same kids swear worse than any F1 driver that I have heard. I live within 100m of a kinder garden and the swearing that goes there between kids when they paly outside honestly impresses me due to how descriptive they are. I haven't heard adults in a heat of the moment using swears like that tbh
This is such an eyeroll. We are all adults, we can handle an occasional swear word, F1 is not a Disney movie. Why is this even a problem? This is so dumb. MBS should go out and touch some grass.
It’s an embarrassment honestly. I could understand it within press conferences, but even then, what’s his goal? Oh the sport looks better to advertisers? It’s already one of the most expensive sports to run. Just makes MBS look worse, and more like a power hungry president, more than one that can actually do anything good for the sport.
I am tired of hearing it myself. Think about all the effort that has been made to make F1 a family event. All the kids you see in the stands, that watch at home, F1 Kids that feed them into the series as older fans. Scott says Max handled this with maturity, yet swearing in and of itself isn't. Scott himself has exposed his own prejudices and racial assumptions. Rappers worldwide are actually mostly white...
@@kennyg1358 No, think of the dollars. F1 and FIA have invested ample sums of money in this sport, and they have a standard they'd like to have everyone live up to, or at least attempt to. It's not hard, and it's not uncommon in any other sport series. Plenty of athletes from around the world are penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. This is no different. Between engineers and mechanics...in the garage...no problem...whatever. But as it is increasingly a problem and every team comm is unusable, or it has to have a disclaimer, or others are put into the position to apologize for others worlds...it s all unnecessary.
You heard nothing - on almost all if not all broadcasts it was bleeped out - no children were harmed in the making of the press conference! As for team radio - effectively we are eavesdropping into a private conversation, drivers probably don’t want you to know what they are saying half the time. They are athletes under extreme stress. Get an ear in on a rugby scrum and F1 drivers sound like saints!
@@JimmyJinIA Standards to live up to? You mean sponsors like alcohol and gambling brands? Or are you talking about the racing in countries like Saudia Arabia, where there is zero respect for the most basic human rights?? Those standards? LOL
That's trying to enforce the repressive way of handling things in a sport that mostly happens in a very different cultural context. Also, they race in countries where human rights go to die, without batting an eye, they really got bigger digging problems to deal with.
The problem is sponsors' shareholders sensibilities being offended. Bin Sulayem is defending revenue streams. Any linguistic crusading is entirely incidental.
My favourite part was Max only giving the barest of answers in the official press conference that followed, and then holding his own personal press conference afterwards. especially when the FIA tried to stop him, and he simply replied "fine, we'll do it on the move then" and had a mobile press conference.
Went with the Marshawn Lynch “I’m just here so I won’t get fined” approach lol
Channeling your inner Kimi.
The FIA didn’t try to stop him. They didn’t care. Max is free to waste more of his time he wants. 😂
@@paperplane-db8qf Why are you so pressed lol, you're in every reply chain
@@paperplane-db8qf Thats enough, Ms Ben Sulayem...
No swearing guys, you might get summoned at the stewards and given a community service penalty
They're gonna make them pick up trash by the roadside or what?
It's OK, they're on a private RUclips channel, not a live broadcast on pre-watershed television. They're also not professional sportsmen paid millions to act as role models.
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@@adrianhjordan1981 Oh yeah forgot F1 drivers drivers are meant to be saintly like nuns and never say a naughty word ever. If they do they need to flog themselves to atone for their sins.
@@adrianhjordan1981 shill
The FIA president needs replacing.
I just came here to say I'm really surprised he's still in a job. The amount of controversy and own goals he's created. I can't see him staying too long
He thinks it is a dictatorship - rather than a stewardship.
He doesn't own it, he is just looking after it.
FIA has a president problem
@@yt.personal.identificationhe’s not the one handing out penalties.
He’s also the only one backing Andretti btw.
lol poor you the FIA doesn’t allow swearing in post race press conferences for the last 70 years.
People’s rights to swear in an official interview is more important than the rules.
Swearing is bad. But racing in countries with active missile strikes, human rights violations, genocides being done by the government and tracks being built with slave labour? That's a-okay.
Children are watching F1, so swearing is bad. But Alcohol, Crypto and Gambling sponsorships are good.
Exactly, the hypocrisy is astounding. We are okay to race in places where they behead people and throw minorities in concentration camps but heavens forbid someone says a naughty word.
my house my rules kinda thing
Well said my friend...well said!
@@davids8127 Max lives in that house too. Or is it that the dad is man the cut the meat on Sunday when he is there and the rest of the week nobody sees him.
Its haram to swear.
“We're not rappers, you know. They say the F-word how many times per minute? We are not on that. That's them and we are [us].” - Mohammed Ben Sulayem
Arguably the stupidest things ever said in F1 context by a person in the position of power. Just goes to show how out of touch with reality FIA is.
Did he really say that? Wow. If u change some words, its just the same way like a nazi talking about jews back then.
What he wanted to say, was not speaking like black people. But he found a sorry ass substitute for his shoddily covered racism.
And a person that did Fuck all for Motorsports !
You might not like it but what he said is true, lol.
1. They are not rappers
2. Rappers swear almost as much as possible.
When you don’t know the world you’re managing
F1 like it or not was built on cigarettes alcohol promiscuity and swearing
Daredevils dancing with death
Now security changed a bit the risk of dying even tho still there in low percentage
It was never a kid show it was never meant to be Barney and kids stuff
So trying to change the essence of the sport will make the sport dull and eventually their followers
FIA president MBS seems to be a bit of a loose cannon & a bit power crazy to boot! 🙄
A bit.... "Look at me! Look at me!" - MBS
@@p3tj4 yes, every time there is a pole or race winner, MBS is there to shake hands and have his picture taken
There's a reason why a lot of the drivers/teams/team bosses have basically signalled they have no confidence in him.
The term control freak comes to mind
Better make sure it the other one...not the infamous saudi prince.....
But racing in lands with dictatorships and no human rights is ok.
Indeed. It's all about priorities and the rabble must be taught to behave.
It's not about doing it right.. it's about doing it my way.
F1 doesn’t get involved in politics.
If they did then they wouldn’t race in any country except Singapore and Japan. It’s not like Europe and America is any better 😂
@@paperplane-db8qf Wait so you're saying you would have no preference between living in Europe/America and Saudi Arabia?
Press X to doubt :D
Fia president is their servant. What more you expect from him! In few years he will ban champagne spraying too and will tell every female staff in F1 to wear burqa.
Wait, So FIA profits from squeezing emotions from a extremely competitive environment, but wants to limit the language for subjective reasons coming from its president. That’s like blaming your pot for having so many bubbles while boiling anything.
Very well put!!👏👏👏
No, Liberty Media as the commercial rights holders profits. The FIA is forbidden by the European parliament to commercially benefit from the championships they also govern.
I've been following F1 for 25+ years and I've seen some FIA nonsense, but this one might be easily the top 1
mate give me a break! Balestre and prost were outright and in full view of the public stealing race wins and championships! And just to remind you thats Jean-Marie Balestre im talking about the ex FiA president during the senna and prost years and beyond. or would you like to talk about the rampant corruption of the mosley era? This shite now? its amateur hour compared to what we have seen. 25+ years watching eh? were you asleep???
A sport that has Gunther Steiner on is payroll can't whine about swearing
Gunther got sacked, he’s out the spotlight
@@Akuma-ti7wi He conducted 1 or 2 post-race interviews this season
@@soundscape26and he didn’t swearing while doing any of them.
@@seashackf1 I assume he didn't 😄
HE DOES NOT FOK SMASH MY DOOR
MBS is one of the worst things to happen to the FIA
MBS has been an aweful FIA president. Cant wait for him to go!
Bro is proving how awful islamic fundamentalists are. Bro is the least heavy handed Arab leadership
Nah he’s been a pretty good president.
He’s the only one backing Andretti, and wanting fair competition in F1.
Nah bro. His money and power still count to be there for some times. Unless someone with better money and power appears
@@paperplane-db8qf He's pushing whatever gives him more control over the sport. adding another team doesn't just dilute the funds, but also the power.
Just cause i agree with him on something doesn't mean we agree for the same reasons.
I can’t spell his name either so ‘MBS’ it is
Also he makes Max Mosley looks good. Unbelievable
I guess FIA President trying implement his country's rules which is supress people :)
My thoughts as well.
Sharia law in motorsport.
What rules? This one has existed for 70 years btw.
Sharia law to not swear in a press conference 😂.
Why don’t you go swear at school or in a job interview and see how that goes 👍
@@paperplane-db8qf whyyy dont you accept people for who they are? dutch people swear more because its how we talk..
Exactly !! The comment you put needs to be the most liked. This is exactly it. There's no sense in it. There's no discussion. It's just an iron fist. F**king ridiculous (See what I did there😬)
We had this back around 2011/2012 when the interviews on the podium first started. I remember a few drivers swearing in the interviews, and a grown up approach being taken by asking them to stop, without such a heavy handed approach. Its worked 99% of the time since
It worked until a few years ago when suddenly swearing started to become accepted for some reason.
I think all has to do with the register you should adapt depending on the circumstances... we all do in your daily lives I'm sure. A chill Thursday press conferences is not the same as when they're actually racing and being on the podium sits somewhere between these two situations.
Punishments like the one Max got are silly and counterproductive, just remind everyone to be mindful about it and move on.
LOL
Even Verstappen apologize immediately after swearing. Like I get its not something to do in a interview but they are grown ups. At a minimum talk with them before the punishment
Women being forced to wear face coverings at all FIA events is coming next
My father burst into flames when he heard a swear word before the 9pm watershed many years ago... it was many years ago but the family still haven't recovered from it. Swearing kills.
my concurrences
my conglomerates
My coconuts
Language evolves... have a casual conversation with Brits or Ozzies and see how often the f word gets dropped. It's harmless
My condominiums
I cringe SOOOO hard when Crofty has to say "Apologies if you heard any colourful language and sorry for any offence this might have caused"
Like... are you fucking serious?!?! Ohhhh nooo!! Im sooo offended!!! Someone used a word of the English language!! How ever will I cope?!
It's pathetic
100% agree with this. I'd prefer not to hear swearing in the first place but they make it worse by drawing attention to it
Sky Sports have to do it though sadly. I remember loads of times when Dave Clark had to apologize for swearing from darts players on Sky.
They have to do that because of specific UK broadcasting rules for certain airing periods.
I don't like it but knowing the context now, it does make sense.
They should take after Ronald McIntosh on the boxing. On Saturday night, he had to apologise for language coming from the ring, but Ronald then said that you can understand it within the heat of the moment.
@@NeXMaX do they have any broadcasting rules around royal pedos?
its time for Alex Albon to reach into his SEA heritage and unleash the full power of South East Asian swearing. SEA people swear in so many languages FIA gonna need a linguist to check for swearing
Cantonese is the best language for swearing. LY, DLLM, PK, HGC 😂
Hey, you are absolutely right. Haha.
@@GinbaubabeI don't speak Cantonese but somehow know exactly what DLLM is 😂
"What is that $@#$@# $%#$% %^$%^@#@ ^#$%%#$ Pepsipinto doing in front of me?"
Haha hilarious
The last time I watched Drive to Survive (don't worry, I only watched the 1st two seasons), swearing was all part of the show. Gunther Steiner was made a star, in no small part, because of his constant swearing.
Noticing this, in the 2nd season, Christian Horner then started to unnecessarily swear. Toto Wolff, from the beginning, also sweared more often than a French sailor. Yet, Drive to Survive is seen as a *HUGE* success.
So, which one is it? Are the F1 stars supposed to swear for Drive to Survive, or not supposed to swear for the FIA? You can't have it both ways.
Oh, and one last question... Why is Ben Sulayem still the president of the FIA?
soulless people with HR personalities are given way too much power in all facets of life, shame its infected F1 aswell
I swear when I get cut off in traffic going 41mph… so going 200+ and getting blocked is understandable lol.
The Americans and FIA are doing their utmost to destroy the sport of F1, mainly by not understanding what it is really about. This is a great example of that. Max handled the situation with grace!
americans? FIA president? wtf
America is the only nation on Earth with free speech. Good try though. What does America have to do with the Saudi Royals? The Saudis are one of our biggest rivals. So, why don’t you explain to us “what it is really about” 😘
@@ghostrider-be9ekit’s especially funny because he’s commenting on RUclips, which is an American platform 😂
@@YxYzYx What makes that even more funny is the fact that on that platform there is no such thing as free speech 🤣
Liberty media has been disastrous for F1
I was never a fan of MBS. I honestly think he needs to go. Something about him screams incompetent.
When the only reason you’re in a position is because your family is rich
@@burprobrox9134 I guess he Strolled right into that position :D
@@Mammel248bra, I see what you did! 😂
lol you mean enforcing existing rules is incompetence 🤣
Racing in countries with human rights issues, draw the line at swearing.....
The rapper comment is outrageous lmao. So disconnected.
Absolutely ridiculous honestly.
I think there was an element of cultural clash there. We all get what he was trying to say but it came out as tone-deaf.
Is it? Rappers tend to swear a lot in their lyrics. Regardless of their skin color, enthnicity or language.
Why? Rappers swear all the time. Professional athletes are role models, so should not behave like trash.
it's completely reasonable, rappers swear a lot, why do you assume its racial?
Two thoughts:
1) Everyone says 'swearing' like it is universally understood what is and isn't swearing. In the global world of F1 what words, phrases, remarks would be considered off limits?
2) This is 2024 where many of us purchase directly the F1 TV app so that we can get access to all the amazing content beyond just the basic mainstream media broadcast. Either put a simple TV-MA warning on your subscription streaming, or tell the licensees that are rebroadcasting in each country/region to do the work to police their content to their customers.
To partially answer Point 1, I'd imagine it at least covers George Carlin's 7 Words You Can't Say On Television (i.e. f**k, sh*t, p*ss, c*cks***er, motherf***er, c**t & t*ts)
Come on really guys? You dont understand the heavy handedness? From an Middle Eastern FIA President. Give me a break.
Cone on
@@Davidtime ok David I fixed the typo just for you ok. Can I get an A+ now please?
I had this crazy thought. What if they could have a kid friendly broadcast, and they could call it f1 kids or something….
Daaaamn bro that's a great idea, maybe they should consider it
Or a crazy idea. Athletes should follow the rules they agreed to when they signed up to be multimillionaires 👍
@@paperplane-db8qf HA, you are posting the same stuff on every thread of comment. Get paid by the word or post?
@@paperplane-db8qfain’t nothing wrong with swear words. People are just way too soft now adays.
MBS thinks that the FIA is the most important thing about Formula 1 and that he is the most important part of the FIA.
I get not swearing in a press conference, that's totally reasonable and would be expected in any ither job - when you're in front of clients/customers, keep it clean. But when you're actually dling the job, say what you like within reason. Team radios where we get to hear some frustration and emotion are great. MBS is coming across as foolish and petty, Max handled it perfectly with his outside press conference
MBS never said drivers should be penalized for swearing in the race. He said it shouldn’t be broadcasted.
@@paperplane-db8qf MBS Shill.
@@paperplane-db8qf His beef should be with F1/Liberty Media not the drivers then.
Why is everything having to be utterly lame?
This week in F1 news has been the biggest nothing burger in F1 history.
The FIA having a fit over swearing and people calling Daniel Ricciardo’s fastest lap into question.
Gambling, crypto is fine, human right violations are genocides are fine, but swearing is not fine?
Yea its getting a bit ridiculous now. Its pretty clear the drivers as a whole dont like MBS, hes not doing himself any favours
If you have an issue with swearing, plz stop watching F1...
Saudi oil company money is fine, tobacco money is fine, alcohol money is fine, but good heavens don't let the children think that an adult said a swear word!!!!!!
The requirement to watch your language on press conferences is reasonable, it happens in other sports too. During the races is fine as long as you don't use slurs for instance.
How about this, you think swearing in a live press conference that is broadcast at a time when children are watching is fine, stop watching F1.
There was not a problem with swearing even 10 years ago. This is a modern issue that is a symptom of a larger erosion of basic decency and manners in society.
I suppose you're fine if they use the C word as well?? Or is your arbitrary line drawn at the F word?
@@tuna5618Last I checked, kids aren't going out and buying oil in the playground. They can't go and buy alcohol. As for Tobacco money, that hasn't been in F1 for nearly 20 years....a time when swearing wasn't a problem because F1 drivers acted like the professionals they are supposed to be.
@@adrianhjordan1981 If you think F1 drivers and teams never swore in the past... do I have a bridge for sale for you.
I do agree with you that people shouldn't swear in the formal broadcast situations, like media sessions.
Wait.. the clown that slammed a car into the wall from the start line is still head honcho at FIA?
Glenn's opening and that bleep took me out ☠
Ben Sulayem has no business being in the FIA.
Thet problem in my eyes is that Mohammed Ben Sulayem is a strict orthodox religious person.
thus his vulnerable ears hurt when people don't fully and actively agree with his worldview.
If he was strictly religious he would remove all gambling related sponsors like stake
@@El_Negro2003 Or have a race in Las Vegas
@@El_Negro2003 If you mean to say that orthodox religous people are hypocritical, wel you don't have to to convince me of that.
@@marcelschellekens6386 yep
FIA needs to learn about respecting its drivers as grown ups and also viewing their audiences as grown ups. We the audience by and large can take the f word. And don't talk about children. My son knew all the swearing words in my language when he was 6. Not from home, although some of them, but mainly from the school yard.
Hey, even F1 Legends like James hunt also has a knack of swearing during his time
He had a knack for doing much more inappropriate stuff than just swearing 😂
@@srthebox4946"All I have to say about that is 'bullsh*t'!"
@@srthebox4946getting caught doing some ”warm up” before the japanese Grand prix
Swearing is bad but wash money is great, That's the Formula 1.
*swearing
“Using ableist language’ 😂
Tell me you’re insufferably left wing without telling me you’re insufferably left wing.
Next time try and get in the fact you’re a vegan as well
Is avoiding prejudiced language and slurs considered a left wing thing now? Nice to know...
A hypothetical no-swearing scenario:
"The driver's car suffered a puncture while he was travelling at 185mph, rolled 17 times and a piece of carbon fibre became embedded in his torso. Obviously in distress the driver came onto the radio and exclaimed: "Oh bother! It seems I'm in a bit of a pickle here, I do hope some marshals are on scene soon as it appears I've made a bit of a woopsie!""
06:45 absolute legends to include that clip 😂
It's ridiculous to ban swearing while racing at 300kph. Just don't broadcast it. But not swearing during interviews when they've had plenty of time to cool down is really not a big ask.
No interviews would be the best option though. The drivers will 100% support that.
We all want to hear the bleeps when there is an incident.
FIA's stance on swearing becomes even more comical with rally. Whenever a rally driver loses his temper due to mechanical failures or coming close to dying, or coming close to killing someone else, the FIA will throw a few thousand euro suspended fine at the driver. Because you are not allowed to show human emotions.
This is more a WRC problem than an FIA and rallying issue. WRC GmbH itself is a little dictatorship even without the FIA
One thing is sure: Mohammed Ben Sulayem won't be reelected again. I've never seen an FIA president pissing off so many people on so many occasions.
Great take on it. I find it very interesting Ted Kravitz was caught swearing 5 minutes into the Singapore Sky Sports coverage 🤔
Replace the bloody FIA president
I do like how Verstappen protested it, he has good humour in these things
Isn’t the simple answer to not broadcast the moments when they swear?
The whole hearing from the driver mid race is a relatively new thing. Drivers have probably been swearing to their teams for years.
When Max appears to be the adult in the room then something has gone wrong ;)
VERY wrong
I think you have hit the nail on the head by trying to be funny. Yes, Verstappen needs to act more maturely and behave like an adult. Spoiled brat comes to mind.
@@davidmatthews3093No his point is exactly right, you've picked perhaps the only time Verstappen has been right about something to attack him
@@davidmatthews3093 it's just you, losing yourself in the blind hate towards Verstappen. Maybe grow up and try to be objective about a situation and not let your emotions and feelings about one person get in the way of rational thinking. Maybe just try it once, then you won't come across as incredibly smallminded.
Why is the FIA president worrying about a broadcasting issue when Liberty Media is in charge of broadcasting???
Because they know Liberty Media will refuse to stop airing the swear words. And Liberty holds the rights to F1 so pissing them off can mean FIA get removed from stewarding F1.
So FIA goes after the drivers instead.
All drivers should swear like freaking sailors next race.
In an official F1 press conference, keep it professional and respect the obligations.
When we are eavesdropping on their radio messages, we are an observer only... and it is a privilege. We don't get to dictate anything.
It's 2024 and we're still acting like speech isn't contextual
There's NOTHING to explain for F1 drivers swearing, except for the observation they are not one of the frigid hypersensitive Anglo-Saxons.
As a former sailor, I am not offended.
Not swearing in the FIA press conferences makes sense, but if you are going to broadcast radio chatter then you need to understand that you are going to get what you get.
What also always seems to be overlooked is the fact that when English isn't your native tongue the word "Fuck" doesn't have the same connotation as to native speakers
It has nothing to do with it language perception, it's just cultural and depending on your own ideology. The American conservatives have a huge problem with it and they try to make it seem like it's an objective thing that everybody espouses. Dutch people don't mind at all. I'm Greek and the word fuck has exactly the same connotations with our equivalent γαμώ. It can be used in all ways from offence to praise to surprise and nobody but the most conservative people mind it, with the exception of the performative civility of TV. It's mostly a puritanical effort by some people to impose some "values" that are almost purely a facade. In short absolutely nobody hear would feel offended if you said "my car is fucked", in whatever language.
@@PinkAsAPistol to a point I agree, but you can't dismiss the cultural connotation. In Dutch we swear a lot with diseases. For example you can call someone a "kankerlijer" which is literally translated to cancer-sufferer. This is considered very offensive in Dutch. My non-Dutch native coworkers consider it not nearly as offensive as natives do.
Of all the morality issues that could be discussed within F1, driver language is way, way, WAY down the list in order of importance.
It’s not even on the list!
There is nothing immoral about swearing so long as it isn’t aimed at someone, which in most cases in F1 including this one it’s not.
In some cultures it’s mildly impolite - that’s about it.
Let the drivers do whatever they want, regardless they bleep out the curse words so it wont matter.
Kids are exposed to worse things online LMAO.
The funny thing about this whole swearing matter is that there's technology to bleep out swearing, especially if it's something that is televised. Or if that's somehow out of reach for F1, maybe don't air the parts where swearing is involved which F1 and FOM have control over? The irony is that DTS airs these radio messages uncensored. Literally the reason anyone would know for sure Leclerc used the f-word in Monaco 2022 was because of the trailer for DTS Season 5 that showed that moment without the bleeping. You didn't even need to look it up anymore, DTS literally throws swear words in your direction in all its glory.
And even with all that...swearing? Really? Let's be real here one way or another children are going to hear swear words whether in songs, movies, etc. And if you're watching F1, a place that can brew swearing with the high-intensity environment, it's a hazard you take just as how you are exposing children to potentially catastrophic crashes like Silverstone 2022 or Bahrain 2020. If you don't want your children to hear swearing, then don't let them watch these things, especially the press conference where literally nothing of interest to children is happening.
i love the intro that was great, guys keep up the great work overall you guys are down to earth and always keep us inform, thanks
Best intro ever
Love Max's honesty he really only cared for one World Title and the others are just extras. Unlike Lewis who is petty around certain things Max keeps it real to the point!
Lmao, you describe the king of petty behaviour, Max, as not being petty 😂😂😂
Max used unacceptable language and then acted like the petulant child he always is when held accountable for it.
@@Qwepzy how did Lewis become involved in this 😭😭😭😭😭
@@adrianhjordan1981 Sorry guys just wanted to start a conversation haha
@@Qwepzy Bruh lmaooo have a wonderful day though
@@adrianhjordan1981 "unacceptable language"
Haha! What are you, a child?
Fia - steered by UAE.. where it is not allowed to swear. Any questions?
Just replace the drivers with AI already. Bunch of robots driving robots.
Don’t forget to use AI to moderate and censor the robots just incase someone takes offence to their binary attitudes.
Part of the FIA’s role is to champion road safety around the world and part of doing this is to discourage road rage. If MBS’s own F1 world champion is f’ing and blinding at every opportunity, it’s not exactly a great look nor a great example to ordinary motorists and future motorists. They’ll think, ‘well Max Verstappen loses his shit and drives people off the road so I can too”. I agree swearing should be reduced and this has been communicated badly by MBS, however, Max knew exactly what he was doing. He knew defying the FIA would make him more popular amongst fans and the media. Personally, I think both Max and MBS have handled this poorly, both extremely petty.
It's not just about swearing, it's also about better understanding the drivers and teams by hearing what they're really saying. The whole point of broadcasting team radio at all is to give a candid look into what is going on and how the teams operate, how the drivers think. You deprive the audience of that when you arbitrarily curtail their language, which makes the sport itself less interesting to watch.
FIA has been becoming increasingly parental in terms of dealing with the drivers. An unacceptable trajectory!!
Ultimately it's up to the F1 tv rights holders to decide what they broadcast. Lets not all forget how much Gunther Steiner is celebrated for using the F word
Gunther's a beloved icon, that's the difference
and the F1 rights holder is not the FIA, so why is the FIA going after Max and not the FOM?
The line between being celebrated and being mocked is very thin in his case. It ends up being sad that nevermind his performance as team principal, he'll be remembered basically for having been a pottymouth.
Do two broadcasts: one uncensored & one censored. See what people choose.
First they take the grid girls and now they wanna take the swearing away. James Hunt is rolling in his grave!
The grid girls were just silly and of their time. Did it really add anything? I’m a dad of two girls who might want to race one day. Glad they’re gone. No swearing in press conferences totally legit, no swearing in the heat of the moment in the cockpit. Absolutely fucking ridiculous
@@MrSunnyBra we gained nothing from removing it, though. And the most vocal opponents were the grid girls themselves, go figure
@@halofreak1990 We didn't lose much either.
No it does not have a swearing problem in the fact that he compared it to rappers is hilarious considering every rap sentence contains like two swearwords that's coming from a black American
this is so silly a topic. everyone swears, even kids. You're not protecting anyone from bad language anymore
US capital is heavily invested in F1 now. Hypocrisy is to be expected.
the two examples with Hamilton at the beginning are at least justifiable as a safety measure, but swearing is a bit of a stretch innit
”Is it worth it?” Ridicolous! I think its fair to demand of a sports-star to avoid swearing on public media. Is that really too much to ask of someone making 100:s of millions a year?! Verstappen is acting lika a spoild child and should appoligize to the sport and the public.
Fuck this shit. Racing is intense, let the passion out.
This is a broadcaster issue not a driver issue.
I don't have a fucking problem with that!
too fucking right!
Formula 1 TV has a choice to play or not to play a drivers radio messages that contains swearing. If swearing is banned, then just do not play that particular radio message (either with or without bleeping) - I think this is only really necessary for LIVE content. Radio message are not live, replays are not live Netflix Drive to survive was not live....
Maybe we should ban the FIA president from F1? 😇
But on a more serious note: he's trying to act all righteous with this, like drivers are role models and swearing sets bad example for kids. But on the other hand those same kids swear worse than any F1 driver that I have heard. I live within 100m of a kinder garden and the swearing that goes there between kids when they paly outside honestly impresses me due to how descriptive they are. I haven't heard adults in a heat of the moment using swears like that tbh
Swearing in a press conference fair enough, but on radio thats fair game in a race
I don’t even know why this is even a subject of conversation
This is such an eyeroll. We are all adults, we can handle an occasional swear word, F1 is not a Disney movie. Why is this even a problem? This is so dumb. MBS should go out and touch some grass.
It’s an embarrassment honestly. I could understand it within press conferences, but even then, what’s his goal? Oh the sport looks better to advertisers? It’s already one of the most expensive sports to run. Just makes MBS look worse, and more like a power hungry president, more than one that can actually do anything good for the sport.
A saudi is the correct person to take a stance on morality, but hey swearing is
worse than executing journalists and violating general human rights!
Jean-Marie Sulayman. Reminds me of the 70s and 80s with the heavy handedness of Balestre
Fuck that
Get rid of the (m)BS involvement and make Interlagos the last race of the season. Get away from that part of the world. We all know this to be true.
I am tired of hearing it myself. Think about all the effort that has been made to make F1 a family event. All the kids you see in the stands, that watch at home, F1 Kids that feed them into the series as older fans.
Scott says Max handled this with maturity, yet swearing in and of itself isn't.
Scott himself has exposed his own prejudices and racial assumptions. Rappers worldwide are actually mostly white...
Think of the children!
ohplease save me the sanctimony! And you just said one the most ignorant things I've read in a whole time!
@@kennyg1358 No, think of the dollars.
F1 and FIA have invested ample sums of money in this sport, and they have a standard they'd like to have everyone live up to, or at least attempt to. It's not hard, and it's not uncommon in any other sport series. Plenty of athletes from around the world are penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. This is no different.
Between engineers and mechanics...in the garage...no problem...whatever. But as it is increasingly a problem and every team comm is unusable, or it has to have a disclaimer, or others are put into the position to apologize for others worlds...it s all unnecessary.
You heard nothing - on almost all if not all broadcasts it was bleeped out - no children were harmed in the making of the press conference!
As for team radio - effectively we are eavesdropping into a private conversation, drivers probably don’t want you to know what they are saying half the time. They are athletes under extreme stress. Get an ear in on a rugby scrum and F1 drivers sound like saints!
@@JimmyJinIA Standards to live up to? You mean sponsors like alcohol and gambling brands? Or are you talking about the racing in countries like Saudia Arabia, where there is zero respect for the most basic human rights?? Those standards? LOL
Asking drivers not to swear in press conferences are fine. But the way they tried to do this was just ridiculous.
Being told off for hurty-hurty words by a DEI hire.
- 2024.
That's trying to enforce the repressive way of handling things in a sport that mostly happens in a very different cultural context.
Also, they race in countries where human rights go to die, without batting an eye, they really got bigger digging problems to deal with.
Max should start swearing in Dutch
The problem is sponsors' shareholders sensibilities being offended. Bin Sulayem is defending revenue streams. Any linguistic crusading is entirely incidental.
The futility of any attempt to police the tone of ANY Dutch person would be apparent to anyone who's visited the country.