I've heard Rome's rise summarized as being down to two points: the unshakable belief in the sanctity of the city of Rome itself, and the pathological inability to quit until the _other_ guys give up.
"It doesn't take a lot of elephants to have scary amount of elephant on the battlefield." This is the amazing nonsense that convinced me to change majors
@@Guilherme-J most people know what an elephant is, and what a tank is, or at least an automobile. You would need a hell of a monster on your side to really terrify enemy troops these days
The full quote is apparently: "Rome wasn't built in a day, but they were laying bricks every hour" and is attributed to English playwright John Heywood.
there are lots of quotes where the meaning changes quite a lot, if you add the cut part. There is one along the lines : "What should I care about the nonsense I sprouted yesterday . . . . . . . if I learned to know better now"
The funny thing about Cato is that he would end literally EVERY SPEECH with "... and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed.", even if the topic of his speech had nothing to do with Carthage or military action in general. "That is why I believe that we should task the sculptors to build a statue, and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed."
@@Oturan20 „I’d like to order as a starter the sow's udders stuffed with salted sea urchins, as main the boiled ostrich with sweet sauce, as dessert the hot African sweet-wine cakes with honey and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed.“
I want to take a moment to expand on the Caesar and the pirates story. Because it’s hilarious. It’s important to note, at the time Caesar was in debt up to his eyeballs. He had survived the purges of Sulla, but most of his estate was taken away from him. But for appearances sake he kept living like a wealthy patrician and bribing people for political gain, as you were expected to do in Ancient Rome. He is on the verge of being imprisoned for not paying his debts when he was captured by pirates. That was when he told them to double is ransom. That was when his political allies paid to release him. And when he then conquered the pirates all that money was now his by right of conquest. He used it to pay back his loans and some of his estates. That was the mind of Julius freaking Caesar. Taking a kidnapping and turning it not only to your advantage, but to completely change your fortune in life and pave the way to your political advancement.
I feel like Caesar is like a videogame main character, he's involved with EVERYTHING and he has seemingly limitless charisma and deception, and he exploits the game mechanics to name himself dictator for life before the devs patched him out of the game
Patch 500.0.0 bc- Caesar -REMOVED “We think it’s about time to let others rise to power as Caesar is the most meta-dominant character, we hope this increases other characters play-rates”
@@erickluviano981 To be fair he was just copying earlier greats like Sulla and Pompei and taking it to its logical meta conclusion, gotta go all in on your sweaty strats.
Yeah, you have to look at it though that lense; but Caesar was remarkably candid about the shit he pulled. From a modern perspective his writings on the Gallic campaign make him seem like quite the Tyrant, of course to his fellow Romans burning down villages and selling the inhabitants into slavery for minor slights wasn't anything to bat and eye at. Interestingly enough he also doesn't push the narrative that the galls are mindless barbarians, he paints them as tribesman fighting for their freedom; but in his mind, and to for the people he was writing for it was simply Rome's duty to conquer the land and bring Roman civilization to it. Still though, even in his own time, he could have tried pushing different narratives to paint himself as a saint and the gallic tribes as mindless heathens, but he doesn't do that, it almost seems like he was writing for historians in the future as well as writing propaganda for Rome; he keeps his accounts remarkably realistic sounding, and often more morally grey then you would expect.
A primary source bias?! That’s not possible! But for real, it is not possible for a historical account to be 100% unbiased, whether primary or otherwise
@@antoninuslarpus7107 Hey Antoninus, how you doing? Have you decided to do something before Marcus takes over after your 23 passive years on the throne?
The brilliance of Julius Caesar's story with the pirates is that the 50 talents of silver wasn't his own money, but rather his retinue basically had a Go Fund Me drive to cities across Rome to raise the money. He demanded the ransom increased because he knew his retinue could get it. So, when Caesar killed the pirates, he took that silver as lawful plunder and never had to pay it back. *Julius Caesar was casually playing 5D chess centuries before 2D chess was invented.*
“It doesn’t take a lot of elephants to have a scary amount of elephants!” Truest words I’ve ever heard. Anything that can kill you by innocently sitting on you is a challenging foe indeed
It just dawned on me that elephants have a relationship with death, as well as social structures that are remarkably similar to humans. So forcing elephants into combat would likely result in similar trauma & after watching so many (including humans) freeze to death? Major trauma, probably PTSD, and assuming they didn't fully resent their human comrades, they'd likely have taken any & all loses *very poorly*! Also, their tanks 🐘
most history books: "we call it rome bc romulus killed his brother, remus." Blue, unable to hide how hard he simps for Antiquity: "Romulus killed Remus in what became the most etymologically significant fratricide in world history"
*THIS* is why I love Hannibal. The man was a force to be reckoned with. It takes a *lot* to be Rome's arch enemy, and Hannibal was the closest anyone ever got until the empire became corrupt.
It is hypocryphal, but apparently when in the court of some king in Asia Minor, Hannibal was asked how he would have been remembered had he won at Zama. “The greatest general in history,” he said.
@@misterbk4933 i consider that more a vietnam kind of affair , all the respect to them for being some of the greatest warriors in history , But hannibal was inside rome and an existential treat to the republic back when they where expanding and where close to tip top shape
Rome's reply to Hannibal's peace terms wasn't just merely 'See you next year'. The mad lads also demanded that Hannibal start paying rent for the Roman land he was occupying. Rome's early wars could be described as such , Rome getting punched in the face over and over until their Enemy grew tired and gave up.'
_’I KNOW LIFE SOMETIMES CAN GET TOUGH; AND I KNOW LIFE SOMETIMES CAN BE A DRAG, BUT PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A GIFT; WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A ROAD, AND THAT ROAD’S NAME IS’_ *_”ROME AND ROOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL”_*
When I was in school, my freshman world history teacher claimed that "Rome wasn't built in a day" was just the first half of the saying. The second part was "but it burned in one."
@Vinnie P I would disagree. The old adage of "Rome wasn't built in a day, but destroyed in one" is a reminder of how years of hard work can all come tumbling down if you're not careful.
fun fact: the doctor who examined Caesar body and remarked about how Caesar died of blood loss. Only like 2 of the stab wounds posed any threat to his life.
To be fair, almost everyone who is stabbed to death dies of blood loss, unless they're stabbed through the head or lung, in which case it's death by brain loss or suffocation. Knives, however, aren't great at getting through skulls and ribs
@@jacktomas1596 Except they didn't die from a cut jugular. They died from the blood loss through the hole in it. If you're stabbed in the brain or heart, death tends to be instant or close to it, directly due to damage to the organ themselves. You can actually survive a slit throat provided you get care right away. ( Granted that means a doctor is actually on scene when it happens.)
Kid: Mom I don't want vegetables. Mom: You want me to call Hannibal, huh? With those pretty big monsters with spears and a snake coming out of its heads?
12:18 I heard an anecdote (unsure of of how accurate it is) that not only did they refuse Hannibal's offer of surrender, they responded by sending him the bill for the land his army was "renting" during his occupation of Italy. I seriously hope it's a true story, because that's the got to be the biggest middle finger in world history.
He just sounds like someone you want to be friends with, Red too. I'm lucky enough to actually know someone that reminds me of Red (rather Red reminded me of her) and I sometimes wonder what it would be like if they met. They'd probably write a book together in the first hour or something lol
It is always extremely infuriating how when people talk about the assassination of Julius Caesar, and always talk about Brutus and Cassius, they rarely talk about Decimus, who was the third main conspirator, who was pretty much as important alongside the other two. And honestly Decimus' betreyal of Caesar was much, much more of a betrayal than Brutus' was.
@@faintsmile363and he was actually in Caesar will. The other more famous Brutus was not. I think Shakespeare got confused between the two and made the wrong Brutus famous.
Most of my Latin class over the years was a heavy focus on the Republic and quite a bit about Augustus, but we don't really go that much further into depth after Augustus. Although this was kinda dependent on the topic our (cancelled) exam would be about (Aeneid)
YEAH THATS WHY THEY DID IT WHY YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT HUH YOU GOOD BRO HUH YOU GOOD YOU STILL WONDERING WHY THEY DID IT BRO YOU STILL PONDERING THAT HUH YOU GOT IT FIGURED OUT IS THAT IT CATS OUTTA THE BAG HUH IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK HUH STILL WONDERING ARE YOU
Yeah I took a Roman Culture class in college and we stopped after Augustus. The professor even said about not covering the empire: "Culturally speaking, it's all downhill from here."
I think the main reason for this is because our sources for most of the republic are "livy" and... um... that's it. +Virgil, Ovid, Catullus, and Livy all wrote during the Empire. There is great reason to do both.
When I did my study of the Remus and Romulus story, I found a very similar conclusion in the mythology to the one you found in history: Rome was able, more than anything, to adapt. The fact that a city of thieves founded by a fratricidal murderer and populated by mass kidnapping/r@pe could become the center of civilization in Europe for 1,000 years (or more, if you ask the Byzantines) shows how important their institutions were. Well done!
Yes! More of this stuff, please. You put it very well: Caesar killed the republic, and saved Rome. He truly is one of the most fascinating characters in history.
First time there's been something like that to begin with. Someone having enough collective video's about the same topic to be able to summarize them in a cohesive manner in one video. That's interesting enough in its own right.
"that's why it's called ROME not REME" That's gonna get an "Uhhhhhhhhhmmmm" from all the Russian speakers out there. I would actually love to know why Russian uses Reme instead Rome, it might just be a phonetics thing for all I know. Bonus Funfact: the Russian word for lightning (Молния=Molniya) sounds an awful lot like Mjölnir (especially when pronounced correctly), and from what I've found it may go all the way back to some shared Proto-Indo-European language shared around the region. I wonder how it ties back to the theory that Norse Myth comes from Slavic Myth, and not the other way around, though I'm sure there was mutual exchange and development.
@@erikpaulsanchez4876 yesyesyesyes I would DIE. The research was still a bit foggy last I checked but I find it truly fascinating how so many modern cultures that we consider extremely disparate share these little kernels of common language and history from their distant ancestors....
i suppose the Kievan Rus, who were scandinavians did go on to become modern Russia (as far as i know, please correct me if i'm wrong) so the term Mjolnir being the Ásatrú term for Thor/Thunor is likely to have carried down into modern russian, even after the cyrillic doctrinations.
And to see someone talking about all the problems rather than just praising him. Blue gave a pretty nuanced image of Caesar, which, much as I like his content, he doesn't always pull off. You can really tell this is his focus.
Everyone else: Rome you attacked me!! Rome: Yes but you planned to attack me. Everyone else: I was just thinking about it not actually doing it. Rome: You thought about it so have to be destroyed.
Hey Blue! Just wanted to let you know I introduced my Classical Culture lecturer to this channel and she's been adding your videos on all things Rome to our homework (for enrichment) during lockdown and it's been so fun for everyone. So basically thank you!😆
2:02 My favorite subtle detail in Magi is that based on the name, we can assume that Romulus was killed by Remus in that universe, because it’s the Rem Empire that’s in play, not the Roman Empire.
"Enough with the politicy stuff back to the stabby stuff" Blue I have been lead to believe by nearly everything I've seen or read on the subject that in Italian history there is no difference there.
Yeah, Trump and Caesar have a lot in common in the "Hey, look at what you can get away with if you take every power my office gives you with zero fucks given about restricting conventions that all the previous office holders kept." department.
Also, I’d argue that Marius was the one who proved how breakable the system is, then Sulla confirmed it. Caesar, or someone like him, was destined after their power grabs.
He could be talking of my country Spain. In 1936 the General Franco declared war against our just born 2nd republic. He won and became the supreme dictator for 36 years. It's 2021, and there's still people (right wing people) that think Franco did nothing wrong, or that he was as bad as our understandable unstable just-born democracy... their points sicken me.
@Jasta 2 people wouldn't hate the elites that much if they did anything to help those same lower classes with a large resentment towards them. why have democracy if people will constantly elect politicians that don't give a shit about anyone
When Caesar saw Brutus among his attackers, Plutarch writes, ‘he covered his head with his toga and let himself fall.’ Suetonius adds that, according to some reports, he said in Greek: ‘Kai su, teknon’ (which Shakespeare turned into the Latin ‘Et tu, Brute?’). It literally means ‘You too, child,’ but what Caesar may have intended by the words isn’t clear. Tempest cites ‘an important article’ by James Russell (1980) ‘that has often been overlooked’. Russell points out that the words kai su often appear on curse tablets, and suggests that Caesar’s putative last words were not ‘the emotional parting declaration of a betrayed man to one he had treated like a son’ but more along the lines of ‘See you in hell, punk.’
After watching this video for the fifth time, I'm gonna read my whole Asterix collection and understand WAY MORE historical references than when I was a kid.
“Ahaha like we said we don’t know if we’re gonna have a republic” “no no I know you don’t know if you’re gonna have it, but y’know you never know, sometimes you don’t know what’s gonna happen and then... something happens”
Hannibal: surrender Rome, your armies are dead! Rome: we will not go quietly into the night, we will not banish without a fight, we’re going to move on, we are going to survive, dum vivunt in rem publicam!!!
The ending of the Julius Caesar pirate story actually has him slitting the pirates’ throats before putting their bodies up on the crucifixes. It was supposed to exemplify his mercy I guess lol
"This video is a Remastered, Definitive Edition of three previous videos from this channel - History Summarized: "The Roman Republic", "The Punic Wars", and "Julius Caesar and the Fall of The Republic"." *Oh yea. It's all coming together*
You could have spent more time on how Roman domestic politics changed in such a way that political violence and civil war suddenly became a thing. The increasing socioeconomic tension and the concentration of wealth, the resulting optimates vs populares conflict, and the sheer logistical problem caused by a constitution that was originally created for a city-state, such as having to personally travel to Rome in order to vote, even when the Roman state covers most of the Mediterranean.
@@nikharagrawal5808 sorry, don't have any specific in mind, I tend to go wide rather than deep on sources. The basic outline of what happened though is this: Roman wars during the Middle Republic caused the propertied, landowning middle class to dwindle, since they were the ones legally required to serve in the military. The Punic Wars saw massive casualties among them, whereby the rich would sweep in and buy their lands. Later, what middle class remained ended up campaigning for years on end, causing their family farms to be neglected and end up sold. This, since the Roman military system was based on the assumption that it was the citizen-militia of a city-state and that campaigns would be local and short. Thus Roman citizens ended more often than not working as labourers for the very upper classes that had bought up their lands. Only later on, Roman conquests brought in lots of slaves (mostly owned by the rich and working their lands and businesses) that drove down the wage level. Thus Rome had a large underclass that had been screwed over by the system, who'd rally around any politician who'd champion them (the Populares faction). The Marian reforms, when the citizen-militia was replaced by a professional volunteer army, are often attributed as the cause of the fall of the Republic, since it led to a situation where the soldiers would be more loyal to their generals than to the government. Which is an oversimplification, since the reason why that could happen is because the soldiers were overwhelmingly recruited from this underclass, that had no reason to stand up for a system that had screwed them over. Also, they had little in the way of economic security beyond their military service, thus their generals (who often were prominent politicians in the own right) could gain their loyalty by championing them and working to secure them things like retirement benefits and land grants from conquered territory.
I'm so glad to see some new versions of the older OSP history stuff. Love that old stuff, but as I've watched you get better with the videos I've seen the old stuff and thought "Oh, he could do that so much better now!" It's like watching a kid grow up or something
Really liked the video. It takes the story Arcs of a fascinating topic and gives them the perspective of being framed in a greater narrative. Such as how Caesar's accomplishments are far more impactful when put in the immediate context of the history of rome and how it was functioning before his rise.
Except it makes a giant mistake At least as early as 1863,[7] various texts claimed that the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus plowed over and sowed the city of Carthage with salt after defeating it in the Third Punic War (146 BC), sacking it, and enslaving the survivors. The salting was probably modeled on the story of Shechem. Though ancient sources do mention symbolically drawing a plow over various cities and salting them, none mention Carthage in particular.[3] The salting story entered the academic literature in Bertrand Hallward's article in the first edition of the Cambridge Ancient History, and was taken up by others. It was discredited by scholars in the 1980s.[1][8][9]
Just want to comment on the Caesar double wall siege, vercingetorix was inside the fort with quite a large Gaulic army. He had just suffered a pretty bad defeat to Caesar. But once in the fort he let all his calvary go home (before the first wall that would trap them in was complete) with orders to let all the tribes know what had happened and to send a relief force. The relief army did come, but not in time (both walls were now up.) They attacked twice and were thrown back each time. vercingetorix was trying to time his attack with that of the relief force so Caesar’s men would have to defend both sides at once. He wasn’t able to do this the first two times, as well as the third and final time when the army outside attacked at night. Caesar wrote a book on this entire years long campaign, he writes that in the final attack him and his army were nearly overwhelmed, but rescued by men he sent out to try to get around and attack the Gauls from behind. Idk where you got the “The Gaul army sees small cavalry force and runs away,” thing from.
Are you telling me that (from a certain point of view) Caesar actually brought peace, justice, freedom, and security to _his new Empire??!!_ I don't know how to feel about this.
We only think of the fall of the Republic as inevitable because it did, if Roman Democracy was reformed and survived we would all be talking about how it was unbreakable, that the Roman institutions were so strong and flexible that it would never have been able to fall to dictatorship. That is just how people think of most big events. The thousands of years of pro-monarchist propaganda read by people like Blue didn't hurt the spread of the authoritarian view of events either.
@@falconJB Except human nature is human nature. All governments eventually fall. Whether monarchies, democracies or dictatorships. Rome would inevitably fall, just like the kingdoms of Europe, just like America will. It's not the fault of the systems, but that people are still people.
JULIUS Caesar on the other hand had been preparing to step down as dictator when he was murdered so he could go to war with Parthia. He expected that his time as dictator would help the Republic limp on for a few more decades
@@RequiemPoete Inductive reasoning is not good logic. While it's _most likely_ every government will eventually fall, it's impossible to say that with certainty.
Please do more of these definitive additions. It’s really nice to have one video to put on to get a complete history review as opposed to filling between multiple!!
I can believe Caesar said “you too my child” when he saw Brutus cause here the thing. Caesar possibly only suffered 5 stab wounds while still alive, one to the shoulder, face, chest, thigh, and groin. But these aren’t exactly quick ways to die especially if it’s only one strike, and especially if the men wielding said daggers weren’t exactly fit young men... Caesar would’ve been in immense pain and would’ve died(the stab in the chest between the ribs being the likely culprit) but he’d be at least aware enough to see Brutus approaching him with a dagger and gasp out his last words before being stabbed in the groin. The other 18 stab Wounds were all after he died.
I’m a senior and our senior trip was supose to be going to Italy. I was so excited to see the Roman ruins since I’ve loved Rome my entire life! But sadly it was canceled due to the virus. I would have done a Italian/ Rome history class but I guess now it’s just American history again :( I’m really sad that it’s canceled and I hope I can go to Italy someday but it’s better that we are all safe Also funny story is when they revealed it to us last year they tricked us into thinking it was a assembly on some boring school stuff for seniors and then revealed that we were going to Italy. And none of us suspected anything before because all the teachers stayed quiet. Last year’s senior class went to Germany and they got home just in time for the virus and countries closed down.
I live in Italy and honestly I personally think Rome is pretty hit or miss, sure there are some nice things but most of the city is just kind of crime-ridden and pretty ugly. If you ever come here I’d give Rome a miss and come here, to Tuscany; little to no crime and practically all absolutely gorgeous, from Florence to Siena, Livorno to Pisa, all of it. Then again that’s just my (somewhat biased) opinion, anyway have fun if and when you come here
24:43 "Anyone with enough money and connections could effectively cripple the political system for their own personal gain." Osh, doesn't that sound familiar?
Modern republics are much more inherently stable than Rome. They have checks and balances, and rely more on the normal people voting than a few prominent families (Aristocrats votes were worth way more than plebian votes). We also don't have senators commanding armies LMAO
Here's a controversial take, what Caeser did was a necessary evil. Republic was rotten at its core due to corruption and had to be dealt with. At the time roman senate was sucking all the lands for themselves, leaving people poor and forced to work. Normally, people that join the army is supposed to get land to farm at once they retired but in this time period, senate wasn't doing land reforms so there was no land to give to veterans and that upset a lot of people. The senate however didn't give the slightest bit of shit. They wanted all the riches for themselves. It became worse when so many slaves were brought to rome(hence the serville wars) that the population couldn't even work. It was cheaper to buy slaves than to pay citizens. This is also why gracchus brothers were assassinated. Caeser was pushed to become the evil that he ended up being by the rich senators that blocked his land reforms at every turn and wanted him killed when he went around that blockage. Caeser wanted to retire in a province with political immunity, not become a king. There was even attempt by both sides to reach such a deal where caeser would only get one legion and a governorship at illyria. He didn't even want gaul or his armies, he just wanted to be left alone. This deal was broken by the same rich senators that blocked his reforms, cato and lentulus. After cato broke the deal that caeser had no other choice but to invade rome. The other option was to be put on an unfair trial, be humiliated, called traitor and murdered. I'm sure no one would pick that option. Hell caeser even forgave his opponents in senate and brought them back but what did they do with that? Stabbed him 23 times on senate floor. You can summarize the end of roman republic with one word, GREED. Senators were greedy. All the political infighting in that time period came from this greed. Whether it was caeser or sulla, the republic was rotten inside and on its way out. At that point, does it matter who finished the job?
Agreed. Caesar was far from a revolutionary (he was more along the lines of a moderate,) and in fact did everything he could to act within the boundaries of Roman law. Unfortunately he celebrated his revolutionary uncle Gaius Marius and was from then on marked as the most dangerous man in Rome despite having done nothing wrong and doing nothing wrong for the rest of his life. He was even planning on giving up his dictatorial powers and leaving for Parthia when Brutus and the others assassinated him
I don't even think this is as much of a hot take in present time anymore. The Roman republic (especially in it's final phase) is way less idolized/judged more objectively as it used to be 100-300 years ago, due to the social/political situation at the time.
I agree with you ( and I think our narrator basically does as well). You could say Marius and Sulla mortally wounded the republic, and Caesar mercy-killed it. Romans were LUCKY it was Caesar who went full dictator on them. Caesar was ruthless, but never bloodthirsty. And once in power, Caesar really tried to fix Rome's problems, which were legion (pun intended).
True. People are so weak nowdays, that anyone seeking power is inherently evil. No matter what they do with it afterwards. (only monarch can be judged ''objectively'' for their actions since they were born into it, therefore aren't evil for seeking it...). Most of Caesar hate comes from what he did do Gauls. He wasn't gaul, he was Roman. And republic lovers, living in illusions happily ignoring how rotten the republic had become. He basicly did nothing but good for Romans. People have no problem with ''barbarians'' having raiding parties in Roman republic or Roman empire... But when Romans go around that's when their conscious kicks in. It just shows their state of mind. they associate with weaker side. Instead of recognizing natural order. Rome was superior at the time, that what bothers them. Attacks on Roma were fair game, the other way around is bad. You know if those barbarians could occupy Roman territory they would. It doesn't make them moraly superior because they couldn't. As for Gauls or in the case of any occupation. If you fight back the occupier, you better win. Because the boot is coming down on your neck so hard it's probably going to break it. It's common sense that that's what is gonna happened. People are so brainwashed with ''higher ideas'' and other bs they live in the world that doesn't exist, at the end of the day only think that counts is brute force. Anyone thinking otherwise is lying to themselves.
You mentioned not wanting it to be over an hour, but honestly, I'd love to see longer and longer content from you (though I understand it would take increasing amounts of time to make, too)! Your style makes history really, really interesting
Hannibal: *kills all of Rome's legions* "Surrender"
Rome: I didn't hear no bell!
To the carthaginian commander: NUTS!
~ The roman commander
Hannibal: Stay down, dammit.
Rome: Da mihi asinum Hannibale
I've heard Rome's rise summarized as being down to two points: the unshakable belief in the sanctity of the city of Rome itself, and the pathological inability to quit until the _other_ guys give up.
Rome: I can do this all century.
@@Vespuchian you forget the endless manpower pool the city of Rome itself had
"It doesn't take a lot of elephants to have scary amount of elephant on the battlefield." This is the amazing nonsense that convinced me to change majors
And let's not forget the spot on description of "a four legged giant with two spears and a snake coming out of it's face!" History's fun sometimes.
They were _scary_ like really scary. Trust me My descendants faces them
Something like this wouldn't be seen until tanks came along. It seems to me unlikely that the era of this kind of shock is over.
@@RedShocktrooperRST Elephants: organic tanks. Just install "the turret".
@@Guilherme-J most people know what an elephant is, and what a tank is, or at least an automobile. You would need a hell of a monster on your side to really terrify enemy troops these days
The full quote is apparently: "Rome wasn't built in a day, but they were laying bricks every hour" and is attributed to English playwright John Heywood.
"I found forth a city of bricks and left it a city of marbel " - Gaius Augustus
there are lots of quotes where the meaning changes quite a lot, if you add the cut part.
There is one along the lines : "What should I care about the nonsense I sprouted yesterday . . . . . . . if I learned to know better now"
But it fell in one (day)?
He also said "Rome was not built in a day, but it burnt in one"
@@SingingSealRiana or a jack of all trades is a master of none but still better than a master of one
Remus: ...and we'll call this city Reme
Romulus: You know what bro, (*pulls out knife*)
I have better idea.
Mate I actually laughed out loud at that, thank you hahaha
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I think it was a shovel. 😉
So you're saying Romulus Reme'd his ass?
"Rome was really special. There's honestly nothing like it"
I _really_ thought you were going to say "There's honestly.... no place like Rome"
Rome sweet Rome
Country roads, take me (to) Rome
To the place I belong
Mediterranea, water mama
Take me (to) Rome, country roads
@@borderlinebear5509 someone make the song
dear god that brings a tear to my eye
What aobut byzantium?
@@tompatterson1548 Mehmet II : "What about Byzantium?"
The funny thing about Cato is that he would end literally EVERY SPEECH with "... and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed.", even if the topic of his speech had nothing to do with Carthage or military action in general.
"That is why I believe that we should task the sculptors to build a statue, and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed."
I wouldn't be surprised if he ended every _sentence_ with "... and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed."
Can't help but respect his dedication
@@Oturan20 „I’d like to order as a starter the sow's udders stuffed with salted sea urchins, as main the boiled ostrich with sweet sauce, as dessert the hot African sweet-wine cakes with honey and I strongly advise that Carthage be destroyed.“
@justvibing4796 Sorry, sir, we just ran out of dip.
@@cheezemonkeyeaterNAH they ran out of SALT!!
Blue: "Rome doesn't screw around!"
Rome between 135 and 30 BC: *proceeds to screw around*
Dead 😂😂😂😂
so true lol
I have a joke about this topic:
"The Greeks invented sex, but the Romans discovered sex with women."
Yes it's terrible
@@henrypaleveda7760 it made me snort so there’s something
@@RainCloudVideos thanks, my brother liked it too, but I wasn't sure if that was a large enough test group.
I want to take a moment to expand on the Caesar and the pirates story. Because it’s hilarious.
It’s important to note, at the time Caesar was in debt up to his eyeballs. He had survived the purges of Sulla, but most of his estate was taken away from him. But for appearances sake he kept living like a wealthy patrician and bribing people for political gain, as you were expected to do in Ancient Rome.
He is on the verge of being imprisoned for not paying his debts when he was captured by pirates. That was when he told them to double is ransom. That was when his political allies paid to release him. And when he then conquered the pirates all that money was now his by right of conquest.
He used it to pay back his loans and some of his estates.
That was the mind of Julius freaking Caesar. Taking a kidnapping and turning it not only to your advantage, but to completely change your fortune in life and pave the way to your political advancement.
STONCI
Caesar: PROFIT
Ceasar gets kidnapped
Ceasar gets ransomed
Ceasar crucifies pirates
Ceasar profit
that's like 5d chess right there.
getting a lot of trump vibes from caesar now :P
I feel like Caesar is like a videogame main character, he's involved with EVERYTHING and he has seemingly limitless charisma and deception, and he exploits the game mechanics to name himself dictator for life before the devs patched him out of the game
Patch 500.0.0 bc- Caesar -REMOVED
“We think it’s about time to let others rise to power as Caesar is the most meta-dominant character, we hope this increases other characters play-rates”
@@erickluviano981 *player base bugs Cesar back into the game (he is now invulnerable)*
Patch notes: nerfed ceaser
Ceaser is secretly Josh from Let's Game It Out
@@erickluviano981 To be fair he was just copying earlier greats like Sulla and Pompei and taking it to its logical meta conclusion, gotta go all in on your sweaty strats.
"pre-emptively conquered the entire world defensively" or as I'd like to call it, "moonwalking backward".
Or as America would call it "Liberating Nations and Ensuring World Stability"
Later to be known as Freedoming™
@Jonny B Or how I like to call it “walking”
@@weldonwin or as Humanitarians would call it "Neo-colonialism"
“And it’s because Caesar himself wrote extensive commentary”
I’m sure there was absolutely 0 bias there, and a completely truthful account was given.
Yeah, you have to look at it though that lense; but Caesar was remarkably candid about the shit he pulled. From a modern perspective his writings on the Gallic campaign make him seem like quite the Tyrant, of course to his fellow Romans burning down villages and selling the inhabitants into slavery for minor slights wasn't anything to bat and eye at. Interestingly enough he also doesn't push the narrative that the galls are mindless barbarians, he paints them as tribesman fighting for their freedom; but in his mind, and to for the people he was writing for it was simply Rome's duty to conquer the land and bring Roman civilization to it. Still though, even in his own time, he could have tried pushing different narratives to paint himself as a saint and the gallic tribes as mindless heathens, but he doesn't do that, it almost seems like he was writing for historians in the future as well as writing propaganda for Rome; he keeps his accounts remarkably realistic sounding, and often more morally grey then you would expect.
Military officials write reports to recount what happened during their missions, and they are considered trustworthy, aren't they?
@@arx3516 military officials now and political officials trying to use military accomplishments to regain office are not the same thing, methinks
A primary source bias?! That’s not possible! But for real, it is not possible for a historical account to be 100% unbiased, whether primary or otherwise
@@cas5518 Ik, but that would interfere with the meme so I didn’t point it out
Hannibal: * wins the battle of Cannae *
Rome: Oh! Call an ambulance! Call an ambulance!
* Rome pulls out Scipio *
Rome: *But not for me!*
Battle of zata
Hannibal: "I am Hannibal, the master general."
Fabius and Scipio: *bother bother bother bother bother bother bother*
Rome after losing at cannae:
"tis but a scratch, have at thee!"
carthage; "you are missing an arm"
*"T I S B U T A S C R A T C H !!"*
In Rome's case they regrew limbs.
Joe Nelly Is...is Rome Piccolo?
@@dylanchouinard6141 Yes.
Joeven Espineli Parthia: That means he doesn’t have a penis, right Carthage?
You made me laugh :)
Blue: *posts something about Rome again*
Literally everyone: _RETURN OF THE KING_
Mmmm.... I don't think the Republic would like that.....
*Da du,m tss*
A new age has come to the land!
Did you said KING?? Be careful buddy, you might wanna have someone watching your back
@@antoninuslarpus7107 Hey Antoninus, how you doing? Have you decided to do something before Marcus takes over after your 23 passive years on the throne?
The brilliance of Julius Caesar's story with the pirates is that the 50 talents of silver wasn't his own money, but rather his retinue basically had a Go Fund Me drive to cities across Rome to raise the money. He demanded the ransom increased because he knew his retinue could get it. So, when Caesar killed the pirates, he took that silver as lawful plunder and never had to pay it back.
*Julius Caesar was casually playing 5D chess centuries before 2D chess was invented.*
What a frickin Genius! xD
@@mokongthe3856 y
Certified *Bruh* moment
That's one hell of an embezzlement and money laundering scheme
FYI chess had long been invented by that point. (Not that anyone in Rome would know that.)
All of Italy: teams up against Rome
Rome: *i like those odds*
Rome: Step up if you want to try, irrumator praetor.
Based Dovahhatty enjoyer
Rome: bring an ambulance, but not for me
How many times Blue can say phrase "Ceasar ruled all of the Gaul", without mentioning certain village of indomitable Gauls?
That is one very key asterix to leave out
@@lexingtonbrython1897 I see what you did there
That reference is heavy... like maybe an Obelisk?
Probably not an Asterix fan. However, if Patreons can persuade Red to read some of the Asterix series and set Blue up for 01 Apr 2021 ...
My headcanon is that everybody else i Gaul also hated them for ghosting the Gaelic Alliance in Alesia, hence why they get so defensive about it.
“It doesn’t take a lot of elephants to have a scary amount of elephants!”
Truest words I’ve ever heard. Anything that can kill you by innocently sitting on you is a challenging foe indeed
It just dawned on me that elephants have a relationship with death, as well as social structures that are remarkably similar to humans. So forcing elephants into combat would likely result in similar trauma & after watching so many (including humans) freeze to death? Major trauma, probably PTSD, and assuming they didn't fully resent their human comrades, they'd likely have taken any & all loses *very poorly*! Also, their tanks 🐘
most history books: "we call it rome bc romulus killed his brother, remus."
Blue, unable to hide how hard he simps for Antiquity: "Romulus killed Remus in what became the most etymologically significant fratricide in world history"
Fate Grand Order should read that.
Riiiiight after Cane & Able. But whether that's a historical or fictional story is still up for debate.
*THIS* is why I love Hannibal. The man was a force to be reckoned with. It takes a *lot* to be Rome's arch enemy, and Hannibal was the closest anyone ever got until the empire became corrupt.
And doing that with no support whatsoever is just incredible
i mean we all also remember one boi called spartacus, i mean he also proved to be such a threat
Nubia smoked rome
It is hypocryphal, but apparently when in the court of some king in Asia Minor, Hannibal was asked how he would have been remembered had he won at Zama. “The greatest general in history,” he said.
@@misterbk4933 i consider that more a vietnam kind of affair , all the respect to them for being some of the greatest warriors in history ,
But hannibal was inside rome and an existential treat to the republic back when they where expanding and where close to tip top shape
Rome's reply to Hannibal's peace terms wasn't just merely 'See you next year'. The mad lads also demanded that Hannibal start paying rent for the Roman land he was occupying. Rome's early wars could be described as such , Rome getting punched in the face over and over until their Enemy grew tired and gave up.'
"There was a dream that was Rome... it shall be re-summarized."
_Kono Gaius Julius, yume ga aru!!!_
The Prophecy has been fulfilled! *insert guitar riff*
“There once was a dream, a dream to PURGE this world of the barbarians that infested it, a dream called Rome”
_’I KNOW LIFE SOMETIMES CAN GET TOUGH; AND I KNOW LIFE SOMETIMES CAN BE A DRAG, BUT PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A GIFT; WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A ROAD, AND THAT ROAD’S NAME IS’_ *_”ROME AND ROOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL”_*
Anyone else taking that as the all clear to rebuild Rome and fix all its shit but name it Reme out for respect for Remus
Blue is doing everything he can to avoid the "fall of byzantium" episode
I mean, why wouldn't he?
Don't blame him...still makes me cry to this day.
@@terrencehawk8201 your name is west european, your forefathers sacked constantinople
@@Pitbull00000 its not italian so....
Of course he is, he has to blame his favorite city for it!
Imagine growing up during the second punic war having a boogeyman running around the countryside.
i was thinking the same thing!
"Better eat your olives or Hannibal will come and get you augustinus" -some roman mother
I wasn’t the boogeyman man, Every single Romans were.
@@goldholz XD adding olives to the joke made it 2200x better.
@@ishouldofdestroyedrome2399 Hi Hannibal how are you?
When I was in school, my freshman world history teacher claimed that "Rome wasn't built in a day" was just the first half of the saying. The second part was "but it burned in one."
Oh that’s just untrue!
It burned in 6. *runs away in Nero*
lol u had a wise history teacher
It’s always much easier to destroy than create.
Rome burned all the time, usually for more than a day, though
@Vinnie P I would disagree. The old adage of "Rome wasn't built in a day, but destroyed in one" is a reminder of how years of hard work can all come tumbling down if you're not careful.
Roman Republic: Remastered, Reignited, Definitive Edition
Featuring Dante from the Divine Comedy (TM)
featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry™ Series
Roman Republic: Founders Edition.
& Knuckles
Roman Repulic: HD Collection
I love the implication that Pyrrhus getting the phrase for a costly victory named after him was in itself a Pyrrhic victory
I'm sorry but this is completely wrong, Caesar was actually a little red square
I'm sorry but this is completely wrong. Caesar was actually Joseph's partner in crime
I beat all you nerds to the JoJo reference. Now suffer.
@@FlaviusConstantinus306 yes okay cool, I know, I was continuing the chain of characters also named Caesar
I'm sorry but this is completely wrong, Caesar was actually a delicious salad
@@carbonmonteroy We shall nevah surrendah
-Winston Churchill
fun fact: the doctor who examined Caesar body and remarked about how Caesar died of blood loss. Only like 2 of the stab wounds posed any threat to his life.
To be fair, almost everyone who is stabbed to death dies of blood loss, unless they're stabbed through the head or lung, in which case it's death by brain loss or suffocation. Knives, however, aren't great at getting through skulls and ribs
@@TheMonkeystick yes but if someone gets their jugular cut we domt say blood loss. We say they died of getting their jugular cut.
@@jacktomas1596 "us" laymen might, but the dude was a medical professional after all.
@@jacktomas1596 Except they didn't die from a cut jugular. They died from the blood loss through the hole in it. If you're stabbed in the brain or heart, death tends to be instant or close to it, directly due to damage to the organ themselves. You can actually survive a slit throat provided you get care right away. ( Granted that means a doctor is actually on scene when it happens.)
Also, even if he survived the stabbings, then there's the high chance of infection.
It's so funny that blue refuses to call Alexander the protagonist by his school book name
That's because Alexander the Okay I Guess's official epithet is fucking *_LAAAAAAAAAAME_*
A 35 MINUTE LONG OSP VIDEO ON MY BIRTHDAY?? THE ULTIMATE GIFT TO A HISTORY MAJOR
Happy birthday 🎁
Happy birthday
Happy Birthday
Happy birthday 🍰🎉
@Bored Again happy birthday 🎉🍰
Kid: Mom I don't want vegetables.
Mom: You want me to call Hannibal, huh? With those pretty big monsters with spears and a snake coming out of its heads?
*Eats entire bowl in one gulp*
@@martins.4240 Shlurp
12:18 I heard an anecdote (unsure of of how accurate it is) that not only did they refuse Hannibal's offer of surrender, they responded by sending him the bill for the land his army was "renting" during his occupation of Italy.
I seriously hope it's a true story, because that's the got to be the biggest middle finger in world history.
Shit like this is why I love ancient Rome. Lots of ancient societies were pretty cool in their own unique ways, but nobody gave zero fucks like Rome.
Is it just me or does blue have a voice that you could just listen to for hours, he just sounds so pleasant and friendly
I literally fall asleep listening to the osp history playlist most nights, it’s so calming
@@cas5518 It’s in my bed time rotation for sure
fax
He makes me fall asleep before work sometimes lol
He just sounds like someone you want to be friends with, Red too. I'm lucky enough to actually know someone that reminds me of Red (rather Red reminded me of her) and I sometimes wonder what it would be like if they met. They'd probably write a book together in the first hour or something lol
Blue, my allegiance is to the republic, _TO DEMOCRACY!!!_
Eh, the Republic was in trouble long before it actually became the Empire ... both Republics that is
OBIWAN WATCHES OSP
So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
It's already fallen and you're too blind to see it. There is no law, no order, except for the one that will replace it.
*Octavian*: "The remaining Senators will be hunted down and defeated, and the Provinces will be re-organised into the Roman Empire!"
It is always extremely infuriating how when people talk about the assassination of Julius Caesar, and always talk about Brutus and Cassius, they rarely talk about Decimus, who was the third main conspirator, who was pretty much as important alongside the other two. And honestly Decimus' betreyal of Caesar was much, much more of a betrayal than Brutus' was.
Historia Civilis certainly mentioned him.
why
@@faintsmile363he was Caesar's childhood friend
@@starlight0313 bruh
@@faintsmile363and he was actually in Caesar will. The other more famous Brutus was not. I think Shakespeare got confused between the two and made the wrong Brutus famous.
Glad you're talking about the Republic when most people usually focus on the Empire 😊👍🏼
Most of my Latin class over the years was a heavy focus on the Republic and quite a bit about Augustus, but we don't really go that much further into depth after Augustus. Although this was kinda dependent on the topic our (cancelled) exam would be about (Aeneid)
YEAH THATS WHY THEY DID IT WHY YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT HUH YOU GOOD BRO HUH YOU GOOD YOU STILL WONDERING WHY THEY DID IT BRO YOU STILL PONDERING THAT HUH YOU GOT IT FIGURED OUT IS THAT IT CATS OUTTA THE BAG HUH IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK HUH STILL WONDERING ARE YOU
Yeah I took a Roman Culture class in college and we stopped after Augustus. The professor even said about not covering the empire: "Culturally speaking, it's all downhill from here."
I think the main reason for this is because our sources for most of the republic are "livy" and... um... that's it. +Virgil, Ovid, Catullus, and Livy all wrote during the Empire. There is great reason to do both.
And then there's the Roman Kingdom no one talks about
Blue talks about Roman Republic.
Background music : The City of Rome from Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
👍👍👍👍👍
Edit: also Echoes of Roman Ruins
👌👌👌👌👌
Yeah, Blue finds excuses to reference Assassin's Creed about as often as he dunks on Alexander the Overrated.
“Hannibal, the mad man, preceded to rather famously Leroy Jenkins his way across the Alps with 40,000 soldiers and 37 elephants.” 😂 😂 😂
Except this time the party _didn't_ immediately wipe!
When I did my study of the Remus and Romulus story, I found a very similar conclusion in the mythology to the one you found in history: Rome was able, more than anything, to adapt.
The fact that a city of thieves founded by a fratricidal murderer and populated by mass kidnapping/r@pe could become the center of civilization in Europe for 1,000 years (or more, if you ask the Byzantines) shows how important their institutions were.
Well done!
I read that as"city or Thebes" for half a second.
Blue: “We’re not even two minutes in and we’re already establishing nearly 3000 years of stereotypes”
Me: “Forget the Gladius grab the cannoli.”
Does "people eating the food of their culture" really count as a stereotype?
How did they eat pizza with no tomatoes?
@@AreTea7 they used pineapple back then.
This Godfather reference killed me
@@jamescawl6904 - it was basically a white pizza: cheese on flatbread, possibly with toppings.
Yes! More of this stuff, please.
You put it very well: Caesar killed the republic, and saved Rome. He truly is one of the most fascinating characters in history.
History "Re-Summarized?"
OK, did not expect that.
Some of his words make me think it's an older video just recorded again with the same script
@@ooi97, it is. It's an updated version of three previous videos all rolled into one with some extra notes.
First time there's been something like that to begin with. Someone having enough collective video's about the same topic to be able to summarize them in a cohesive manner in one video. That's interesting enough in its own right.
@@ooi97 He says that at the end of the video mate.
@@Stevrovich, it certainly is. He should do more of this.
"that's why it's called ROME not REME"
That's gonna get an "Uhhhhhhhhhmmmm" from all the Russian speakers out there.
I would actually love to know why Russian uses Reme instead Rome, it might just be a phonetics thing for all I know.
Bonus Funfact: the Russian word for lightning (Молния=Molniya) sounds an awful lot like Mjölnir (especially when pronounced correctly), and from what I've found it may go all the way back to some shared Proto-Indo-European language shared around the region. I wonder how it ties back to the theory that Norse Myth comes from Slavic Myth, and not the other way around, though I'm sure there was mutual exchange and development.
proto-indo- Eruope influences and history definitely need a video to cover them
@@erikpaulsanchez4876 yesyesyesyes I would DIE. The research was still a bit foggy last I checked but I find it truly fascinating how so many modern cultures that we consider extremely disparate share these little kernels of common language and history from their distant ancestors....
i suppose the Kievan Rus, who were scandinavians did go on to become modern Russia (as far as i know, please correct me if i'm wrong) so the term Mjolnir being the Ásatrú term for Thor/Thunor is likely to have carried down into modern russian, even after the cyrillic doctrinations.
Maybe their ancestors liked Remus better and are trying to stick it it his murderer.
both norse and slavic myth come from the same source.
It always warms the heart to see someone give Caesar his due respect, instead of endlessly bashing him without acknowledging the good he brought.
And to see someone talking about all the problems rather than just praising him. Blue gave a pretty nuanced image of Caesar, which, much as I like his content, he doesn't always pull off. You can really tell this is his focus.
Caesar tricked people
35 minutes long I think I've gone to heaven
Armen
Everyone else: Rome you attacked me!!
Rome: Yes but you planned to attack me.
Everyone else: I was just thinking about it not actually doing it.
Rome: You thought about it so have to be destroyed.
Like my big brother used to say "Stop hitting yourself."
That is quite the accurate depiction of Rome’s Foreign Policy. XDXDXDXD
RomRom: _Yaro... CARTHAGO!!!_
So said Nero for causing so much destruction..Not actually Lady Umu.(But you already knew that.)
The Roman goddess Bellona was one of their first for a reason.
Hey Blue! Just wanted to let you know I introduced my Classical Culture lecturer to this channel and she's been adding your videos on all things Rome to our homework (for enrichment) during lockdown and it's been so fun for everyone. So basically thank you!😆
Anyone: _Talks about Rome_
Everyone here: *Romeabooism intensifies*
He's back
hey justin y. AGAIN
the fack it was literally made a min ago
Its him
Weaboos are overrated anyways
It feels... wrong for all these historical figures to have faces instead of being colored squares.
Or different versions of ms paint virgin and chad
Where’s the spinning quadrilaterals?
Ah, a fellow Historia Civilis fan, I see.
@@rambard5599 i second that
@@MagaracDebeluhar could never get into that channel
2:02 My favorite subtle detail in Magi is that based on the name, we can assume that Romulus was killed by Remus in that universe, because it’s the Rem Empire that’s in play, not the Roman Empire.
"Enough with the politicy stuff back to the stabby stuff"
Blue I have been lead to believe by nearly everything I've seen or read on the subject that in Italian history there is no difference there.
The Medici's would certainly agree.
"That's why it's Rome, not Reem"
*confused Russian noises*
Holy shit, as a Russian I just realised...
@@dranelemakol ?
xD
Hey, wait a min-
In Russian it is Reme indeed... lol
"A frightening amount of elephant".
I don't care how, I'm working this phrase into conversation at least once a week.
"[He] killed the Republic long before he was named Dictator. He proved how breakable the system was."
Ouch that hits close to home
Yeah, Trump and Caesar have a lot in common in the "Hey, look at what you can get away with if you take every power my office gives you with zero fucks given about restricting conventions that all the previous office holders kept." department.
Also, I’d argue that Marius was the one who proved how breakable the system is, then Sulla confirmed it. Caesar, or someone like him, was destined after their power grabs.
@@bificommander Yeah except Caesar actually used his power to do helpful things
He could be talking of my country Spain.
In 1936 the General Franco declared war against our just born 2nd republic. He won and became the supreme dictator for 36 years.
It's 2021, and there's still people (right wing people) that think Franco did nothing wrong, or that he was as bad as our understandable unstable just-born democracy... their points sicken me.
@Jasta 2 people wouldn't hate the elites that much if they did anything to help those same lower classes with a large resentment towards them. why have democracy if people will constantly elect politicians that don't give a shit about anyone
First Triumvirate: *The Roman republic is a perfectly balanced system with no exploits whatsoever!*
When Caesar saw Brutus among his attackers, Plutarch writes, ‘he covered his head with his toga and let himself fall.’ Suetonius adds that, according to some reports, he said in Greek: ‘Kai su, teknon’ (which Shakespeare turned into the Latin ‘Et tu, Brute?’). It literally means ‘You too, child,’ but what Caesar may have intended by the words isn’t clear. Tempest cites ‘an important article’ by James Russell (1980) ‘that has often been overlooked’. Russell points out that the words kai su often appear on curse tablets, and suggests that Caesar’s putative last words were not ‘the emotional parting declaration of a betrayed man to one he had treated like a son’ but more along the lines of ‘See you in hell, punk.’
Time to bust out the popcorn, because this is gonna be good.
Now i'm literally fixing popcorn
At the end you should yell «ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?»
Much love, your friends at Rev Media!!
No, that comes in part 2, on the Empire.
thexalon ahahahah Fingers crossed!!
"All your Gaul is belong to me!"
-Caesar
Caeser ball?
Nobody:
Literally nobody:
Rome: Oh, so you're approaching me?
Hannibal: I can’t beat the shit out of you without getting closer.
I feel sad they literally nobody I now would understand this joke
@@TheNaturalnuke Scipio demands your location
@@TheNaturalnuke oh then come as close as you like
Why yes tink tink
no one:
blue: hey guys have you heard of this little place called, um, R O M E
After watching this video for the fifth time, I'm gonna read my whole Asterix collection and understand WAY MORE historical references than when I was a kid.
"This is an on fire Troy! ...Could be a Republic..."
Oh my god yes
Is that a fire in your Troy? Fuck all logic and make a republic 2000 km away
“Ahaha like we said we don’t know if we’re gonna have a republic” “no no I know you don’t know if you’re gonna have it, but y’know you never know, sometimes you don’t know what’s gonna happen and then... something happens”
John Malaney makes all history better
Italian Republic: You can't be more unstable than us.
Roman Republic: Hold my lares please
"It doesn't take a lot of elephants to have a scary amount of elephants on the battlefield."
Legendary.
Hannibal: surrender Rome, your armies are dead!
Rome: we will not go quietly into the night, we will not banish without a fight, we’re going to move on, we are going to survive, dum vivunt in rem publicam!!!
Ahem...Hannibal destroyed TWO Roman armies. Gotta give the man the respect he's due.
2 and a half actually. Blue has Roman bias so it's understandable.
The ending of the Julius Caesar pirate story actually has him slitting the pirates’ throats before putting their bodies up on the crucifixes. It was supposed to exemplify his mercy I guess lol
To be fair - crucifixition is a horrible slow way to die. So yea - slitting someones throat beforehand would be a bit of a favor.
"I'm going to kill and crucify you, but I'll ensure you at least dont feel it."
"And how is that better?!"
"Die faster rather than slow."
Such a merciful leader
"This video is a Remastered, Definitive Edition of three previous videos from this channel - History Summarized: "The Roman Republic", "The Punic Wars", and "Julius Caesar and the Fall of The Republic"."
*Oh yea. It's all coming together*
*Rome: Remastered, Deluxe, Definitive Edition, Part 8*
Featuring Dante from the devil may cry series
& Knuckles
You could have spent more time on how Roman domestic politics changed in such a way that political violence and civil war suddenly became a thing. The increasing socioeconomic tension and the concentration of wealth, the resulting optimates vs populares conflict, and the sheer logistical problem caused by a constitution that was originally created for a city-state, such as having to personally travel to Rome in order to vote, even when the Roman state covers most of the Mediterranean.
Hey, that's interesting, could you suggest some reading or resource to know more about this?
@@nikharagrawal5808 sorry, don't have any specific in mind, I tend to go wide rather than deep on sources. The basic outline of what happened though is this: Roman wars during the Middle Republic caused the propertied, landowning middle class to dwindle, since they were the ones legally required to serve in the military. The Punic Wars saw massive casualties among them, whereby the rich would sweep in and buy their lands. Later, what middle class remained ended up campaigning for years on end, causing their family farms to be neglected and end up sold. This, since the Roman military system was based on the assumption that it was the citizen-militia of a city-state and that campaigns would be local and short. Thus Roman citizens ended more often than not working as labourers for the very upper classes that had bought up their lands. Only later on, Roman conquests brought in lots of slaves (mostly owned by the rich and working their lands and businesses) that drove down the wage level. Thus Rome had a large underclass that had been screwed over by the system, who'd rally around any politician who'd champion them (the Populares faction). The Marian reforms, when the citizen-militia was replaced by a professional volunteer army, are often attributed as the cause of the fall of the Republic, since it led to a situation where the soldiers would be more loyal to their generals than to the government. Which is an oversimplification, since the reason why that could happen is because the soldiers were overwhelmingly recruited from this underclass, that had no reason to stand up for a system that had screwed them over. Also, they had little in the way of economic security beyond their military service, thus their generals (who often were prominent politicians in the own right) could gain their loyalty by championing them and working to secure them things like retirement benefits and land grants from conquered territory.
I'm so glad to see some new versions of the older OSP history stuff. Love that old stuff, but as I've watched you get better with the videos I've seen the old stuff and thought "Oh, he could do that so much better now!" It's like watching a kid grow up or something
"salty chapter" about the Punic wars. That made me laugh
Really liked the video. It takes the story Arcs of a fascinating topic and gives them the perspective of being framed in a greater narrative. Such as how Caesar's accomplishments are far more impactful when put in the immediate context of the history of rome and how it was functioning before his rise.
27:04 - 27:48 i would like to respectfully rename to "caesar rolls too many nat 20s and ruins the campaign for everyone"
Nat 20s have never ruined a campaign
@@cpob2013 I'd argue this: Nat 20's have never ruined a _good DM's_ campaign.
I think a 35 minute goes beyond summarizing. This is amazing
Kinda had to summarize such a long piece of history without it being a longer video but yeah this is amazing
According to my teachers a summary of rome would be a few hundred years long so
It's a remake of 3 of his older videos (hence the re in the tile).
J2Dragon of which I’ve watched them all
Except it makes a giant mistake
At least as early as 1863,[7] various texts claimed that the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus plowed over and sowed the city of Carthage with salt after defeating it in the Third Punic War (146 BC), sacking it, and enslaving the survivors. The salting was probably modeled on the story of Shechem. Though ancient sources do mention symbolically drawing a plow over various cities and salting them, none mention Carthage in particular.[3] The salting story entered the academic literature in Bertrand Hallward's article in the first edition of the Cambridge Ancient History, and was taken up by others. It was discredited by scholars in the 1980s.[1][8][9]
Just want to comment on the Caesar double wall siege, vercingetorix was inside the fort with quite a large Gaulic army. He had just suffered a pretty bad defeat to Caesar. But once in the fort he let all his calvary go home (before the first wall that would trap them in was complete) with orders to let all the tribes know what had happened and to send a relief force. The relief army did come, but not in time (both walls were now up.) They attacked twice and were thrown back each time. vercingetorix was trying to time his attack with that of the relief force so Caesar’s men would have to defend both sides at once. He wasn’t able to do this the first two times, as well as the third and final time when the army outside attacked at night. Caesar wrote a book on this entire years long campaign, he writes that in the final attack him and his army were nearly overwhelmed, but rescued by men he sent out to try to get around and attack the Gauls from behind. Idk where you got the “The Gaul army sees small cavalry force and runs away,” thing from.
Oh, that's really interesting to know!
Are you telling me that (from a certain point of view) Caesar actually brought peace, justice, freedom, and security to _his new Empire??!!_
I don't know how to feel about this.
We only think of the fall of the Republic as inevitable because it did, if Roman Democracy was reformed and survived we would all be talking about how it was unbreakable, that the Roman institutions were so strong and flexible that it would never have been able to fall to dictatorship. That is just how people think of most big events.
The thousands of years of pro-monarchist propaganda read by people like Blue didn't hurt the spread of the authoritarian view of events either.
Depends on which Caesar you mean. If you mean Octavian Augustus, then yes, he did
@@falconJB Except human nature is human nature. All governments eventually fall. Whether monarchies, democracies or dictatorships. Rome would inevitably fall, just like the kingdoms of Europe, just like America will. It's not the fault of the systems, but that people are still people.
JULIUS Caesar on the other hand had been preparing to step down as dictator when he was murdered so he could go to war with Parthia. He expected that his time as dictator would help the Republic limp on for a few more decades
@@RequiemPoete Inductive reasoning is not good logic. While it's _most likely_ every government will eventually fall, it's impossible to say that with certainty.
The level of salt directed at Alexander "I'm going to make myself relevant even if I have to kill you all to do it" is kinda hilarious.
I love tha fact that Italy didn't invent pizza, pizza invented Italy.
it didn’t. they wouldn’t have had tomatoes til 1500’s. best they could have had was flat bread and cheese
@@jakecadick7580practically pizza. Tomatoes are hardly essential
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I’m honestly just waiting for the 30-part documentary series you’ll eventually make of the history of the world.
each two hours long with absolutely baller commentary.
Bill Wurtz, but actually history instead of music and memes
Love the combination-idea, it's nice to have all your roman history in one place. Also makes it easier to convince teachers to use it
Please do more of these definitive additions. It’s really nice to have one video to put on to get a complete history review as opposed to filling between multiple!!
Now, say it with me:
"He was A CONSUL OF ROME!"
a consul of rome... to die in this sordid way, quartered like some low thief
SHAME...
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 shame on the house of Ptolemy for such barbarity
Bibulus the idiot?
"That's why it's called Rome and not Rim"
Russian language slowly back away...
“From a rather salty chapter in Roman history”
I see what you did there XD
I can believe Caesar said “you too my child” when he saw Brutus cause here the thing. Caesar possibly only suffered 5 stab wounds while still alive, one to the shoulder, face, chest, thigh, and groin.
But these aren’t exactly quick ways to die especially if it’s only one strike, and especially if the men wielding said daggers weren’t exactly fit young men... Caesar would’ve been in immense pain and would’ve died(the stab in the chest between the ribs being the likely culprit) but he’d be at least aware enough to see Brutus approaching him with a dagger and gasp out his last words before being stabbed in the groin.
The other 18 stab Wounds were all after he died.
I’m a senior and our senior trip was supose to be going to Italy. I was so excited to see the Roman ruins since I’ve loved Rome my entire life! But sadly it was canceled due to the virus. I would have done a Italian/ Rome history class but I guess now it’s just American history again :( I’m really sad that it’s canceled and I hope I can go to Italy someday but it’s better that we are all safe
Also funny story is when they revealed it to us last year they tricked us into thinking it was a assembly on some boring school stuff for seniors and then revealed that we were going to Italy. And none of us suspected anything before because all the teachers stayed quiet. Last year’s senior class went to Germany and they got home just in time for the virus and countries closed down.
I live in Italy and honestly I personally think Rome is pretty hit or miss, sure there are some nice things but most of the city is just kind of crime-ridden and pretty ugly. If you ever come here I’d give Rome a miss and come here, to Tuscany; little to no crime and practically all absolutely gorgeous, from Florence to Siena, Livorno to Pisa, all of it. Then again that’s just my (somewhat biased) opinion, anyway have fun if and when you come here
@@mayoandbananasandwich6527 thanks!
Ravenpotter no problem, but stay wary anyway, our tourist traps are...well...something
@@mayoandbananasandwich6527 I know.
Rome has been around for over 2,000 years. It'll still be there waiting for you when travel is safe.
I'm reading Mary Beard's SPQR at this time. Your vids are helping encapsulate what I'm reading and untangle the timeline.
Last time i was this early, most historians acknowledged Achilles and Patroclus' relationship
Oh wait
God, what good deed did I do to deserve a 35 minute OSP video?
Oh? Subscribed and turned on notifications? Perfect.
“...And proceeds to reverse engineer an entire fleet. You know, casually. Like you do.”
Beat the notification!
Sleep can wait, it's time for history!
35 minutes of blue’s smooth voice? This made my day
24:43 "Anyone with enough money and connections could effectively cripple the political system for their own personal gain."
Osh, doesn't that sound familiar?
Now where’s our Caesar? I’m honestly open to it at this point.
it is called republic, hehe
Modern republics are much more inherently stable than Rome. They have checks and balances, and rely more on the normal people voting than a few prominent families (Aristocrats votes were worth way more than plebian votes). We also don't have senators commanding armies LMAO
Here's a controversial take, what Caeser did was a necessary evil. Republic was rotten at its core due to corruption and had to be dealt with.
At the time roman senate was sucking all the lands for themselves, leaving people poor and forced to work. Normally, people that join the army is supposed to get land to farm at once they retired but in this time period, senate wasn't doing land reforms so there was no land to give to veterans and that upset a lot of people. The senate however didn't give the slightest bit of shit. They wanted all the riches for themselves. It became worse when so many slaves were brought to rome(hence the serville wars) that the population couldn't even work. It was cheaper to buy slaves than to pay citizens. This is also why gracchus brothers were assassinated.
Caeser was pushed to become the evil that he ended up being by the rich senators that blocked his land reforms at every turn and wanted him killed when he went around that blockage. Caeser wanted to retire in a province with political immunity, not become a king. There was even attempt by both sides to reach such a deal where caeser would only get one legion and a governorship at illyria. He didn't even want gaul or his armies, he just wanted to be left alone. This deal was broken by the same rich senators that blocked his reforms, cato and lentulus. After cato broke the deal that caeser had no other choice but to invade rome. The other option was to be put on an unfair trial, be humiliated, called traitor and murdered. I'm sure no one would pick that option.
Hell caeser even forgave his opponents in senate and brought them back but what did they do with that? Stabbed him 23 times on senate floor.
You can summarize the end of roman republic with one word, GREED. Senators were greedy. All the political infighting in that time period came from this greed. Whether it was caeser or sulla, the republic was rotten inside and on its way out. At that point, does it matter who finished the job?
Agreed. Caesar was far from a revolutionary (he was more along the lines of a moderate,) and in fact did everything he could to act within the boundaries of Roman law. Unfortunately he celebrated his revolutionary uncle Gaius Marius and was from then on marked as the most dangerous man in Rome despite having done nothing wrong and doing nothing wrong for the rest of his life. He was even planning on giving up his dictatorial powers and leaving for Parthia when Brutus and the others assassinated him
I don't even think this is as much of a hot take in present time anymore. The Roman republic (especially in it's final phase) is way less idolized/judged more objectively as it used to be 100-300 years ago, due to the social/political situation at the time.
Sucks that our politicians have gonna down the save route. Letting their greed guide them
I agree with you ( and I think our narrator basically does as well).
You could say Marius and Sulla mortally wounded the republic, and Caesar mercy-killed it. Romans were LUCKY it was Caesar who went full dictator on them. Caesar was ruthless, but never bloodthirsty. And once in power, Caesar really tried to fix Rome's problems, which were legion (pun intended).
True. People are so weak nowdays, that anyone seeking power is inherently evil. No matter what they do with it afterwards. (only monarch can be judged ''objectively'' for their actions since they were born into it, therefore aren't evil for seeking it...). Most of Caesar hate comes from what he did do Gauls. He wasn't gaul, he was Roman. And republic lovers, living in illusions happily ignoring how rotten the republic had become. He basicly did nothing but good for Romans.
People have no problem with ''barbarians'' having raiding parties in Roman republic or Roman empire... But when Romans go around that's when their conscious kicks in. It just shows their state of mind. they associate with weaker side. Instead of recognizing natural order. Rome was superior at the time, that what bothers them. Attacks on Roma were fair game, the other way around is bad. You know if those barbarians could occupy Roman territory they would. It doesn't make them moraly superior because they couldn't.
As for Gauls or in the case of any occupation. If you fight back the occupier, you better win. Because the boot is coming down on your neck so hard it's probably going to break it. It's common sense that that's what is gonna happened. People are so brainwashed with ''higher ideas'' and other bs they live in the world that doesn't exist, at the end of the day only think that counts is brute force. Anyone thinking otherwise is lying to themselves.
Last time I was this early, Aeneas was still fighting in the Trojan War
You mentioned not wanting it to be over an hour, but honestly, I'd love to see longer and longer content from you (though I understand it would take increasing amounts of time to make, too)!
Your style makes history really, really interesting
"Enough of the politicky stuff, back to the stabby stuff."
[Happy Barbarian, Fighter, and Rogue noises]