The Future of FIGMENT
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- Journey into Imagination with Figment is good. Okay, maybe a little less than good. But you know what Disney did? They filed a PERMIT. And you know what permits mean, CONSTRUCTION. Will this change to the Imagination Pavilion bring with it a new and improved Journey into Imagination? Or perhaps an OLD and improved version..?
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If they can re-imagine Tarzan Treehouse to a clasdic, yet fresh, Swiss Family Treehouse, they can do justice to this. With technology now, they can really have fancy dreamfinder.
Tony wants to do it
I'd pay whatever Disney wants me to pay for an A-1000 Dreamfinder and Figment.
@@OffhandDisney Why stop at 1?
Here's hoping they do something similar.
@@itshobojoe1391this gives "where we're going we don't need roads" vibes
I’d love an updated Figment attraction that had the Dreamfinder back and was set up like Runaway Railway - it feels like you could really bring the chaos and surrealism to full effect that way
A new Journey into imagination with the MeowWolf team as consultants would be 🔥
I think the original was the best version, you can’t replace it
As an original Journey ride cast member, I would be so down for the collab
Omg yessss even if it’s just a reimagine of the original
They need to collaborate.
Baxter stated he wants to work on the updated version if it ever happened. He's currently out of retirement working on Bayou THEN a permit gets filed? suspicions are high. Personally I'd love to see a trackless dark ride. Imagine the art section you dance with other cars going down a river of a paper world, each train seeing their own sets, 1 a fair, 1 a forest, 1 a plains. the literature section could have a drop track, the science section could have forced perspective. the possibilities are quite literally endless. (I maybe a huge Journey into Imagination fan :D)
@@happyhauntzz creative head director, look it up for more info
I think he got a deal to retheme JII as part of heading the TBA attraction. Shows how much he cares, willing to reskin one of his OGs to revive another one.
Aside from bringing back Dreamfinder and the more fantastical set pieces of the original, I hope they also bring back Figment's personality from the original attraction as well as the goal to truly inspire guests to imagine in all sorts of way. I really like how the original iteration of the ride told guests that they can use their imagination in science and creating scary stories, which is usually very rare to hear.
Meow Wolfs are always worth a visit. Don't spoil the experience, just show up and enjoy it.
I hope they make a high technology version of their original journey into imagination ride that opened in Epcot. It would be a great way to have a new groundbreaking ride, but also to pay to the original ride, and OG Epcot. Just a thought though. 🤷♂️
This^ If they did NOTHING else but update it to use the Kuka arm and rebuild everything else off the original blueprints. You'd really be able to "Fly" along with Dreamfinder and figment then.
Tony Baxter always said his regrets with the OG were technical things they didn't have enough resources to make. Laser animations, accellerating ride trains, there's a thousand things WDI can put in today, and for this ride it would all fit
@@TheVegasViceMan Please no kuka arm. Forbidden journey is absolutely nauseating
FIGMENT DESERVES BETTER!!! If Disney doesn’t make a new ride I WILL!
Not if I do it first!
I’ve already made the plans some years ago ^^
i had a little chat with my Mickey Mouse plushie, and told him what would make the figment ride better would be if they got rid of the nigel dude and brought back the dreamfinder.
Meow Wolf is a great example of the imagination aspect that Disney needs for figment.
Honestly I could totally see them announcing a new JII at D23 this year. I think Disney has finally realized how huge it would be to bring this attraction back to its former glory after the popcorn bucket saga and the figment meet and greet return (which had some crazy wait times when it first came back).
Dallin's imagination demands a fever dream. Intense like a nightmare but without the therapy bills.
Tony Baxter was just talking about Journey into your imagination on Bob Gurr's RUclips channel
Wait.. Bob Gurr has a RUclips channel? What else have you people been keeping from me!!! 🤯
@@toddhensley880 Yep. The Bob Gurr Show on Fandom Productions
They should really bring back Dreamfinder
If Tony Baxter is down I think he should creatively head a new version if it happens. The current one is ok, but the ride, pavilion, and Tony deserve to have a chance at capturing something closer in spirit to the original with the experience and tech gained since the original closed.
Also imma need a good full bodied version of “One Little Spark” somewhere in the ride. Seriously slept on Sherman Brothers banger.
it would be cool if they made the preshow in the glass pyramids and had like the glass transform into the wacky world of imagination and then you go into the rainbow tunnel
Oh. It would be cool if they had a rainbow tunnel in the ride. 🌈
I like the irony of the recreating the original rather than using their IMAGINATION to create a new one !
Oh I love that he mentioned Meow Wolf. That kind of theming would be perfect
You saying “bathrooms” and showing the water fountains at the same time had me picturing toilet fountains and now, that’s all I want to see.
Dreamfinder and a rainbow tunnel with the original theme song and I’ll be happy.
If they don’t restore a new version of the original ride, I would love to see a version that allows Dreamfinder and Figment to tell the story beyond the rainbow tunnel. Maybe a telling of imagination through Walt’s eyes, and how his dreams became reality.
Can't begin to tell you how much I enjoy your content and love for all things Disney. I love the history and imagineering side of the company, and I look forward to each and everyone one of your videos!! Well done!!
The changes are welcome, but Eric Idle's creepy moon face? It's gotta stay.
Agreed.
ERIC IDLE AS DREAMFINDER 😁
Guess I’m the odd man out por que I wholeheartedly disagree 😖 no more saggy moon chin for me hahah! °o°
That can be the Easter Egg.
Simple. Replace the Omnimover chain drive system with trackless cars. You eliminate the rotating pavilion sync issues caused by loading/unloading delays, and open it up to new story possibilities.
Finally someone is talking about figment i remember a long time ago there was an instagram post of figment walking into the imagineering building.
I hope they give figment the love that deserves one day. It’s a beautiful facade and popular character
I grew up with the original version, and as much as I would absolutely LOVE to see it return, I also recall one of the original Imagineers saying after the first renovation too much damage to the original track was done to put it back as it was. The turntable scene at the beginning was also a HUGE technical problem that resulted in a lot of downtime. So, if I was to propose a new Chapter 4, I would say, make it trackless and bring it back to the original length at least. Now the track isn't the limiting factor. Plus, you can move the riders in any direction you want! Dare I say... maybe even UP to the second story, and potentially even DOUBLE the length of the original, or at least add a good 25% to it? Now, you also have the opportunity to add a thrill factor to the ending, with maybe an elevator drop like ROTR has in it. But, most importantly, I want to see animatronics! They don't even have to be the latest and greatest tech, the originals were fairly simple, but they were effective, they worked! You can make a great ride without spending HUGE money on the latest and greatest animatronics! Give the ride a great premise (like the original), and an anchor the viewers can hold on to and follow along with (like the original), and of course, you already have a beloved character and song, and you'll have the hit we all know Figment deserves.
Funny you mention Meow Wolf, I was telling a coworker the other day about the trippy dreams I had for years after going on the original Journey into Imagination as a kid. I compared the dreams to Meow Wolf. I really miss those surreal Disney World dreams I used to have.
I literally made a joke in a video about The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh that the Heffalumps and Woozles scene is the reason I love Figment, so I'm glad I'm not the only one to have noticed!!
my nana and papa had one of those bricks with their names on it at EPCOT. i wish they couldve sent them out to the people who got one, i wouldve love to keep it.
There’s a ride in Efteling Park called Symbolica which is a trackless ride where guests can interact with parts of the ride with built in modules to each carriage to make random things happen in some sections of the ride. If Disney is thinking about redoing Journey into imagination then they should try to build it close to how it was when it first opened with the guests interacting with elements of the ride.
you talking about "if you're out of town or on the west coast"
Me, in Australia who has never been to ANY disney parks: YEAAAHHH FIGMENT WE LOVE YOUUU
I think Disney could at nighttime effect where a rainbow is coming from the building with a lighting effect!
Show scene... you enter a tunnel and on each side is a one way mirror and on the other side are wacky shaped mirrors with colorful frames so that it looks like a crazy infinity room on either side! In the middle there's a figure of Figmet looking lost and looking around. There should also be a scene where you enter a normal room and go through a door and there's some trickery and dark tunnels that make you think you're going back the way you came but when you emerge back into the room everything's been changed from what you saw previously with furnitures moved around and new colors and new figures etc. Maybe the floor is lava! :p
Personally, I also actually love the former “different forms of imagination” theme of the 1980s. It fit into the rest of the whole EPCOT theme park. It was about how art, science, culture, stories, etc. all created the world we lived in. Imagination created all the wonderful things in EPCOT- from World Showcase to The Land to The Living Seas to The Universe of Energy. It honestly might have been more “EPCOT overview” than people think of Horizons as! So I really hope they build upon that theme in the ride again. I know EPCOT isn’t 1980s EPCOT though anymore. So probably not. 😢 Your idea would be a good second though.
Yes! This would be so cool! I've been a Figment fan since I first saw him in 1985! My son and I got to do a meet & greet with Figment last October.
1:36 one big problem with the permit though. The contractor listed, Poli Construction, doesn't work on rides for Disney. They work on mostly restaurants
I honestly think that Disney is going to do a retheme of the pavilion and the ride… it feels inevitable and would be a clear win for them in the eyes of many fans, and it would just be a fun and awesome attraction if they did it right. I mean you have the Figment meet and greet (with Dreamfinder/Dreamport references), you have the popcorn bucket incident, you have Figment basically as a mascot for The Festival of the Arts and several other EPCOT festivals… I think they even had a lounge at one point in the Odyssey reusing old footage from the old attraction and things like rainbow imagery to call back on it. What I do find interesting is apparently a contractor listed in the permit is used with a lot of Disney restaurants/general area work. So I think what we might be seeing here is just permits filed for a general revamp of the pavilion (perhaps with a themed restaurant? that would be sick if it was Figment themed). Yes, I guess that includes the bathrooms 😅 But hopefully it means the whole ride will be revamped! I really think it will be. I’d be surprised if they don’t announce it at D23. Might be my wishful thinking! But still 😭
Yes, YES! This was EXACTLY on my mind today! Perfect that we get a video about it
A VR omnimover ride including an image of the brain pathways as you exert stimuli, how the pretty lights dance around your head when seeing vs sound vs taste.. ect.
I think the return of the Dreamfinder is a must. I thought it might be cool to have Dreamfinder & Figment show the emotions from "Inside Out" how imagination enhances the emotional response.
They could make the dreamfinder and Eric idle’s character members of two generations of SEA and start extending that story into more parks/attractions.
So for the new Journey into Imagination, I’d have a middle ground for the old and new versions of the ride.
There would be a Pre-show first maybe something like the rainbow tunnel, where a worker tells the dream-finder that testing is now almost done, and he can show guest the prototype for his invention. Something like that.
Then at the beginning of the ride, the dream-finder tells us about the labs, and that they have been experimenting with and studying imagination and dreams. But about two or so minutes into the ride, Figment comes out similar to the new version, and “messes up the showcase”. This prompts the dream-finder to introduce Figment, an experiment that he has been working on to bring children’s imaginations to life into one creature. But that they were still working out the kinks. He then prompts them to his lastest invention the dream machine 3000, in which he can enter people’s dreams, as they fall asleep. And this is where the cool sequences come into play.
Figment explains people’s dreams and how they are important to an early development in children and young adults to let their imagination go wild. And he explains that through the tests, they want to try and be able to negate the bad dreams. But the conflict comes in when a creature of the nightmare realm comes out and try’s to wreak havoc on everyone. So in order to save everyone’s dreams from becoming nightmares, they must journey into the realm of imagination to figure out how the nightmare monsters are tempering with the lands and the land of dreams.
This would keep the spirit of both the newer version of the ride and the older version too, with keeping the lab aspect of the ride, but also journeying into the actual world of imagination as well, similar to the old ride.
after working there for 4 months- i agree with this. plus they have plenty of space bc the magic eye theater next door is connected to the figment building all as one
I’ve actually been working on a small personal project of reimagining journey with dreamfinder, using the sherman brothers’ track. Im trying to get some concept art going, but im really hyped for trying to build the diorama
I want a trackless dark ride for a new journey into imagination
I started working there 28 years ago. It was super busy back then.
The practical things you can gain from using your imagination were displayed in the original show scenes: writing, the visual and performing arts, scientific discovery, etc.
A recent cast member said that some parts of the abandoned track queue and spaces are still available and quasi-functional. So there is space to do something new. If only someone would have one (or a ton of) little spark(s) of inspiration. And money. Money and inspiration.
Awesome video as usual! One other thing I noticed with that concept art, did they extend imagination out past the bathrooms? I mean they could. They have two other bathrooms nearby. Those are hardly used as nobody knows about them except for those of us who wants to get a taste of the original 80s loop.
They have Disneyland People Mover socks! I saw them on the RUclips channel WDWNT for 4/22.
No matter anything else, Dreamfinder needs to come back!
I think they should utilize the magic eye theater to bring in an inside out attraction
I reimagined this after I saw it the first time. they could keep it similar but add some lines and massively update the effects.
The bayou scene is kind of a preshow for Pirates in Disneyland.. but you're still in the attraction boat so maybe not. But thematically (and chronologically) it is different from everything else in the ride so it's more of a preshow than not.
The Silver Halide crystal shape is directly from Kodak, the original sponsor. :)
Ever since my first visit to Epcot as a child i was in love with journey into imagination. I had my original Figment plush toy from 1986 well into adulthood.
Imagination is what Disney was built on! It should be THE MOST FANTASTICAL RIDE in the park….there are SO many crazy avenues they could go with this….and like you said, “this isn’t it”
No for nastolgic reasons please keep it the way it is! My kids, wife and I absolutley love this and we have to do it EVERY visit!
I think having a light system that is on the inside, and is attached to the frame work bars for the pyramid, but then covered from the inside of the building, so the light only shows to the outside, and each bar area lights up like a third of the glass, so its not fully lit up, but has changing colored bulbs like Spaceship Earth. And maybe a ride that goes back to the idea of Kodak, but shows the history of film, and what the future might be, with A.I. part of the attraction, but having Figment show the way..
I love this re-envisioning of the Figment ride. Meow Wolf has some amazing installations and would be great inspiration. Also the paintings that they use for Festival of the Arts could be used as easter eggs. They've already shown creativity in that way and this would just be one step further. 👏👏👏
I was a little low-key disappointed when I found out Oswald was coming to Disney Dreamlight Valley instead of Figment! But they did an amazing job with Oswald, so I’m proud and relieved and happy not disappointed anymore. However, I still think they should add Figment in addition, as well as light up Spaceship Earth!😂😅
Thinking back on Foolish Mortals, how about we make it "Journey Into Living With the Land: A Lazy River Adventure With Figment!"
A) combining the marquee attractions from two different pavilions is extremely big-brain
B) blessing Figment with the best attraction in Epcot is a great way to help him out
and C), we need more lazy rivers! XD
If bringing back Dreamfinder is essential, a thought that always occurred to me is bringing him back as a grandfather of sorts. I thought that with the institute, that his daughter worked there and had a boy and a girl. Another idea came from reading the Figment graphic novel detailing Dreamfinder and Figment meeting for the first time. I was thinking that visiting Spaceship Earth at the end of the comic led to Figment accidentally sparking other brothers and sisters (Figments) that are themed for the other pavilions as well like a twin dragon with the blue and green colors of the Earth from Spaceship Earth, and has a more logical sense that complements Figment's spontaneous energy. And as a bonus, there would be a society of such where the guests would be "tasked" to explore the reaches of imagination accompanied by their own Figment (which could be any form of creature) Probably call it the Dreamfinders. Anyway, that was constantly on my mind as to respecting the original ideas as chapters and would give people incentive to internally create their own tales.
Meow Wolf X Disney Imagineering would be INSANE, I’ve only been to omega mart but the level of immersion and detail would add SO much to journey into imagination
While I grew up mostly with the ride as it currently is, I do know I went on the original... the only memories of have of it are the part at the beginning where Dreamfinder is creating Figment, and walking in the rainbow tunnel and falling down. I would love nothing more than this ride getting an overhaul. It needs to get the love it deserves
If they really wanted to lean into the epcot "edutainment"/future technology angle, I think they could do something like why imagination is still important in a time where people are using AI to generate art.
You know create new amazing rides inspired by old rides of a bygone era but I would also love to see on the side a return of Disney Quest (wasn't that the name?) with Meta Quest sets that run virtual recreation of those old rides that have been replaced. Giving people who never got to experience them a chance to see how they were as well as those who had experienced them, a moment to relive it and compare them to the new rides.
My biggest memories of the original are the 12:23 rainbow tunnel and the musical hexagon tiles
Journey Into Imagination: Dreamfinder's Legacy.
A reimagining of the original JII but with Dreamfinder passing the torch to the next generation. It'll have to introduce a new character for Dreamfinder to pass on his legacy to. Perhaps that one child from that Dreamfinder comic book series...?
"I'm not saying Figment needs a redesign to speak to the youth..."
Don't give them ANY IDEAS!
Please keep giving me that sweet sweet LWTL footage at all costs…. And it intercut with Figment 😍😍
The Figment costume worn by the Epcot cast member reminds me of “The Road Warrior” character that wore a skull on the top of his head (the Figment costume head looks like a hat shaped like a small dragon face). The Figment costume needs a bigger head on top of the torso.
Maybe some sort of iridescent tint on the windows with a lighting matrix on the structural parts? Think bismuth during the day, and LSD at night lol
I'd hope that no matter what they do they keep it a dark ride or at least don't make it so that you have to have a certain height - I have Dwarfism and I am a huge Disney Parks fan... I am 27 and only 39 and a quarter inches, with skeletal problems so in EPCOT I can only really ride the following: Spaceship Earth, Journey into Imagination with Figment, Living with the Land, Grand Fiesta Tour, Frozen Ever After, and the Seas with Nemo and Friends. I don't want to lose another attraction I can ride! My ride list is significantly smaller for Hollywood Studios and at this rate, I go to HS just for the vibes and three attractions I can actually go on. Disney needs to calm down with the thrilling attractions.
Wow Dallin, you really flexed your ethos ethos with meeting Tony in this one. NGL you got me jealous! AND I'M SPIDER-MAN FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!!
A lot of you would probably hate me but I didn’t even go to WDW until I was 25 despite having been to Disneyland a dozen times before that and 3 times since, so I don’t have the nostalgia for anything to do with the ride or even Figment. So what would I like to see? I’d actually make a new ride inspired by Inside Out, you can still include Figment saying Riley imagined him or dreamed about him. But I would LOVE a proper Inside Out ride (sorry but the spinner on the pier in DCA is such a cop out).
We need to get Alicia from over at Parkstop on this! The way she has covered Epic Universe and predictions before they are announced, she would have all the insight!
What I want is something what everyone else wants. The return of The Dreamfinder. A comeback from the Original Journey Into Imagination. Figment is my most favorite Disney Character of all time, and I love the character so very much. I want what is best for the dragon, he deserves better. I would want him to be in a happier place. The only thing I can do, is hope that we get the return of a beloved attraction.
The original attraction not only has a longer track but a lot more cars this making it a higher capacity ride. Plus you know the whole actual image works upstairs.....😢😢😢😢. We'll see what they'll do. But I'm not holding my breath
Looking so handsome, young man. I think redoing the ride would be a big way for Disney to repair their relationship with fans after these past few years.
I think we need Figment and the Dream Finder But you could change it up. Maybe show people having day dreams with a pepper's ghost effect. Maybe tie i in o a movie. Maybe show how dreams become progress. One feature I think would be fun is if in he cue for the ride you let guests doodle or draw some thing and hen while on the ride the thing you doodle would be projected in to the ride. This would replace the "See your self on the TV" part. If not doddle, include some other way to interact with the ride and change one scene of the ride with your choices so your imagination actually impacts what you see. This could be a simple case of "Get asked a quiz" and then the ride sends you down one of 4 preset paths that feels like a choice.
Jut got the patreon. Early videos lets goooooooo
Nice to have you here!
Yeah it's fun.
Bring Dreamfinder back like the original, but updated system similar to Runaway Railroad but with newer Animatronics.
“What’s in that cave?” “Use your imagination.” Lol 💜
I'd be happy to see the '83 version restored; honestly, it was the type of attraction that'd have been kept if it'd been built ten years earlier, the way something like Pirates or Mansion gets preserved, as a certified classic that gets touched up but has its core remain consistent. That said...I really hate when my cynicism shows on stuff like this, but it's hard to think of what they'd do until there's some kind of Figment movie they could attach to the ride, since that's where corporate's head is constantly at, making attractions to do more Disney+ advertising. Heck, it's hard for me to imagine a new era Image Works, since I feel like corporate would thumbs down an expanded area like that because "it'll keep them out of the gift shop for too long" or something.
But if they did go with something fresh, I'd love to see them really go for some psychedelia; the original had a scene based around art and colors, I love to imagine what they could do with modern tech to put together a room that shifts in tones and colors around you in a way that really lights up different parts of the brain.
journey through figment. just bring back body wars but you're in figments absolutely bonkers anatomy
Love your videos but god am I excited you mentioned Meow Wolf. If you’ve been I’d die to see you do a video on it. Btw if you have gone I think you’d really REALLY like the documentary they made about the making of Meow Wolf
I'd say get like 8 people carriges and an attraction big enough to house 100 to 200 carriges and three loading docks and also 3 unique starting points or 3 unique story lines each having 5 unique dreams so it could give people reasoning to keep going back.
Also 3 unique pre-show lines or perhaps a 3 part pre-show...
I was kind of thinking what about a niece and nephew of the Dreamfinder teaching people the value of imagination by bringing us into a world based on all of the imaginated successes and failures with Figment in every scene, and a strange video message from Dreamfinder saying a sad but sweet message that will help the tension.
I mean Journey into Imagination it was definitely a creative ride but at the time Epcot was about learning for the future, so it didn’t quite fit in. Journey into Your Imagination was basically just learning but it kind of lack the creativity. Journey into Your Imagination with Figment its still learning kind of a little better but still lack of creativity. With my idea it can be learning and creativity all in one. I mean products starts of as an imagination which gives the person an idea and if the idea is good they will share it with people. A way to bring the old with the new without replacing it with an IP.
With the newer ride vehicles they have for runaway railway and ratatouille, they should incorporate them into a reimagining of figment. They can do so many fun and interactive things with those vehicles that could help elevate the ride.
I 110% believe it is time to give Journey Into Imagination a major facelift. The current version (thru my eyes) is severely outdated and not good. Remember this was an expansion pack to Honey, I Shrunk the Audience and that show has been gone for over 2 Decades. Now this ride feels so disconnected so obviously the Imagination Institute needs to close it's doors for good. I think a revamp for the ride definitely needs the return of the Dreamfinder, have Figment revert back to his 1983 characteristic and make it feel like a worthy successor to the original and fullfil the spirit of Epcot as a whole.
I just rode it, doesn’t hold up like even older rides do. Doesn’t help when a round glass table in the ride has 1/2” of dust built up on it.
Would we be allowed to get rid of the DVC lounge? I really miss what they did with the dreamworks up there.
We gotta keep the moon face
Growing up with Monty Python, I love Eric Idle... but for the love of God please bring Dreamfinder and more of the original feel back!!!
I’m a little nervous because me and my mother actually love figment as is and I have so many fond memories of riding it together. (Granted we’ve only ever experienced the current version.) But I think as long as one little spark stays I’ll be happy
LOVE this idea. Make it so!
I had been too broke to go to Disney world-and when I got back I was so damn bewildered at how bad the ride went. I’m hopeful!
Awesome video and ride idea !
would love if the entrance to epcot was just the queue for the new ride tbh
Money makes the world go round. I've always wondered why Apple doesn't take up the sponsorship of the Imagination pavilion. They're the modern version of Kodak in many ways. Bob Iger used to sit on the Apple board. The glass pavilion looks vaguely like an Apple store - and could be modernized by Foster and Partners. The Imageworks could be reimagined to hawk Apple products.