Respectfully, as an Adventure Thru Inner Space stan, I am disappointed the same logic used for Star Tours wasn't used for the far more popular Test Track. I grudgingly agreed with the former, but the latter does make it hard to swallow.
I think the Great Movie Ride was one of the best rides Disney ever made, I don’t think it needed to be updated as often as other rides based on the future like Spaceship Earth. The movies in there were classics and that will never change. I miss that ride every day.
My honest defense for why they should have kept the Great Movie ride is that it was arguably timeless and if it needed to have present day things it could have been a dumping ground for miscellaneous IP without a home. I mean look at the catalog of movies Disney now has the rights to..
great movie ride using old movies made sense with the theme of the park being "classic hollywood" but now it seems that hollywood studios barely has a theme at all anymore
@@stephengrant2900 well epcot has 3 theaters and as much as i prefer soarin over california and would love to see it come back to epcot i highly doubt it will.
My niece was a guide on The Great Movie Ride. I laughed every time I rode with her as the guide and she said Footlight Parade was one of her favorite movies. She'd never seen it and had no clue -- just following the script.
I’ll accept Footlight Parade slander but not Singin’ in the Rain. That and Oz are two of the most popular films of all time. What I never understood as a kid was why they never tried to update the Tarzan segment. 40’s Tarzan seemed soooooo old compared to the tree surfer Tarzan we got in the 1999 movie. Also while I think of it why they never did anything more with the Fantasia “we wanted more Oz but couldn’t afford it” segment.
Hey Offhand, been a fan for a long time. Just felt the urge to let you know that you make some of the best RUclips content out there. Always excited when one of your vids comes up. Keep Moving Forward dude!
Dallin, you broke my heart a little with the great movie ride!! I've only been on it once since I got to enjoy it on my first Disney World trip and it was probably my favorite ride that I went on that entire trip. I consider myself a pretty young person and I have seen The Wizard of Oz AND Singing in the Rain. The only movies I haven't seen from the rides are Casablanca (but I recognize the scene in the ride because of how iconic it is) and Alien (I'm just not a fan of scary movies.) I greatly miss the great movie ride and I will forever be sad that it is gone!!
This video is the definition of, "how would you say something so controversial yet so brave". I might agree or disagree with what you said, but I respect you. Some things are better than old Disney, and some old Disney is better than what we currently have.
I’ve always felt Adventures Thru Inner Space seemed scarier than haunted mansion. Due in part to the setting being an infinite black void with who knows what being in there and no humanity in sight, alongside Paul Frees’s narration and the manic soundtrack. It feels lovecraftian in a way with how it presents being shrunken down.
That sounds cool! One reason I rode Horizons over and over was for that moment with the two Omnimax screens where if your ride timed just right you'd hit the "flying through DNA" sequence just perfectly where it felt like the car was no longer on a track but traveling forward at a million miles an hour! If you were unlucky you just got to watch big crystals grow...which I now realize was a shout out to Adventures Thru Inner Space...! Horizons was the apex of Disney's "speed tunnel" effect from "If You Had Wings" and "World of Motion" (where you got _three_ of them!) - the suspended side-moving cars meant there was no ride-path exit door in the way of the screen. The evolution of it is "Soarin'". One other thing I remember - because Horizons had suspended cars, the ride was never bumpy the way Spaceship Earth can be with the continuous chain of cars stressing the segmented track curves. That's one major strike on Spaceship earth - hard fiberglass ride vehicles with no padding when you're laying back on the way down and you head jolts the speaker on the headrest...ow.
*waves* Hellooo, I'm fourteen so I dunno if I'm a "young person", but I *have* seen the Wizard of Oz multiple times and I adore it. It might just be because I'm a theatre nerd and also a huge fan of Wicked, but the original Wizard of Oz movie always gives me a lot of nostalgia and I love it a lot.
I’m 18 now and I love the Wizard of Oz. The Great Movie Ride was sincerely one of my most favourite rides at the parks. From a young age, even if I hadn’t seen all of the films featured, it made me want to see them! It was a perfect ride for Disney and I’m sad that they weren’t able to see its potential for some change rather than reworking it completely, especially with Disney+.
Imagine a world where Horizons come back with more retro 80s future scenes, like entering into that "Nova Cite" where people live in the future, go through the street and see what people do inside those skyscrapers, after that you enter a tunnel and magically appear in Mesa Verde, where you see all the (Now Eco-Friendly) harvesting techniques that humans will use in the future. If Disney made a new version of the attraction, I know it would be a revolutionary Dark Ride.
Soarin' Over California has a spectacular Jerry Goldsmith Score. So of course that wins. But I must disagree with you regarding Mission Space. Mission Space has an actual Kill Count! Does Horizon's have a Body Count? I don't think so! Lame!
Horizons was so awesome. Even the building shape was designed to indicate an actual "horizon" with rooflines directing to a perspective vanishing point. Footlight Parade was a Yeti situation: I rode GMR the first year and it was basically a spectacular giant motorized spinning fountain with manikins stuck all around it with water crashing down directly which was impressive since the entire first scene you moved into was raining _everywhere._ But the water splash off the figures was also hitting the scrim which was gonna cause issues. It was a too-big water feature in a dry dark ride.
Horizons was perfect! I looooved Horizons! I was working at EPCOT at the time it closed, and no one really knew it was coming. Very late in the evening on the night it closed, a CM taped a hand-written sign to the main wardrobe door saying it was closing forever and to ride it tonight. I only saw it the next morning, and was so heartbroken.
We'll never see anything on that ambitious a scale again. Rise of the Resistance comes close, but is much more prone to breakdowns and I don;t think it moves as many guests through per hour.
As much as I love the Great Movie Ride, I knew that it was going to either be majorly updated or replaced for lack of resonance with the average guest. I still hold out hope that they will make a new Disney-ified version of the Great Movie Ride, likely in the area where the star wars launch bay is currently.
Let’s not get carried away about Inner Space. My brother and I would ride this together (parents in other car) and we’d laugh ourselves silly over how cheap it was. The molecules were clearly spray painted styrofoam hanging by fishing line, the atoms were Projection Technology v1.0. And yes, you could reach out and hit the styrofoam props. Not that WE would…
Crazy idea- use something like the Carousel Theater to show videos of these old rides that people love so much. I would be thrilled to sit in the dark and listen to the narration of Inner Space and see whatever video they have of it. I’m sure there are millions of reasons it wouldn’t happen but now I can’t stop thinking about how much I would love to see the Bear Country Jamboree, too. I don’t want to tear anything new down, I would just love to be able to bask in the nostalgia of these experiences that I miss.
You had me worried, there, especially when I thought you were going to call Horizons overrated. I agree with you on all counts, but my sympathies to you for having missed World of Motion. I loved it, even at age 7 in 1983. Though as a 46 year old, I'm honestly not sure why. But I did, and I miss it greatly. I also loved the Skyway. And, clearly, Horizons. I even agree on the Great Movie Ride. I liked it, but I don't mourn it like I do Horizons.
I feel that Soarin' needs an overhaul overall. Would love to see all the versions refilmed with the best cameras available and the projectors on the rides upgraded to the best available. Both cameras and CGI have been improved, as have projector technology. I feel that everything could be enhanced, despite the fact that myself any my family applaud at the end of any Soarin' adventure as is only right. We clap when things are good! That is what you do! Fight me!
Slinky Dog Dash, it's a god damn family coaster that pulls over 2 hour waits. WHY?! Firechaser Express at Dollywood also pulls long waits but I can understand because it's actually pretty forceful for a family coaster forceful enough that adults can enjoy it
Some people *really* love Toy Story, namely my wife. She doesn't give a crap about roller coasters, but you better believe we waited over an hour in line. And she had a great time in line, taking pictures of all the themed set pieces along the way. Disney understands that some of their IP really draws people in.
Adventure Through Inner Space and the Skyway are two of my most vivid memories from my first visit to Disneyland. The surviving footage of ATIS does not do the ride justice. Yes, the old technology wouldn't hold up against modern standards, but as a 10 year-old in 1975 it was fascinating. I recall an effect that made the ride vehicles ahead of you look like they were shrinking in front of your eyes -- I knew at the time that it was an illusion, but do not recollect how it was done. The highlight of the Skyway, for me, was passing through the Matterhorn, which at that time was still a hollow shell. You could look down and see the coaster tracks crisscrossing all the way to the ground. Obviously that was no longer an option once the tracks had been enclosed in tunnels.
@@ttintagel No argument. But even the practical effects technology has improved massively over the past 50 years. The Pirates animatronics in 1975 were basically mannequins who did little more than raise their arms and turn their heads -- cool at the time, but now they're fully articulated and far more realistic.
@@rattiegirl5 Yes! I remember riding Splash Mountain for the first time and thinking, "Wait...Don't I know those critters...?" No Internet then, so it wasn't until years later I found out I was right.
as a child of the 70s myself… heh, you just reminded me of this… it was a strobe light, I think… possibly the light moved ?…made the shadows of the riders look like they were shrinking… and then the miniature riders in the queue you had already seen reinforced the idea that is where you were in the ride
Hi, You never mention the original EPCOT Center attraction LISTEN to the Land. It was better than the current Living With the Land for the following reasons... Better opening scene, live cast member narration, and MOST OF ALL.. a very memorable theme song, "Listen to the Land". The song makes a huge difference. An extra for you...Spaceship Earth... The Jeremy Irons version was much better than the current offering. I was 29 years old when I visited EPCOT Center the first year it opened and was fortunate enough to go again several times in the 80s during it's heyday. Also visited twice in the mid 90's, just as the park was starting its downward spiral. Been several times since and have been disappointed at the continued downgrading of the park's original theme and architectural sight lines. Like your videos and am especially glad to see a younger generation appreciate the original EPCOT Center... Still don't believe Guardians belongs there. Keep up the good work. - Be well
He was so delirious from his entrapment he forgot to mention Magic Candle Company, LOL. Great video as always, Dallin. And more Foolish Mortals! Awesome!
The UK version of that Space Mountain ad is seared into my brain because it was on a VHS I had as a child and it always seemed so exciting and terrifying to me. I never actually got to ride that version of the attraction though, because I was too small, but from all I can gather the ad doesn't really reflect its theming in that incarnation anyway.
The very fact that most current guests have not heard of Footlight Parade or Casablanca or the Wizard of Oz is reason enough that TGMR should exist. They are part of the history of movies. But I understand that attractions have an expiration date. However, the replacement should be better than the original. MMRR is not. My first impression was that it looked like a high school carnival with cardboard cutouts. The plot is confusing. That Daisy dance class is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Current Figment is not as stupid. But the saddest thing is replacing all the realistic animatronics with screens. I'm not against screen based attractions if they look good. MMRR doesn't. It is a pitiful excuse for a replacement to TGMR.
Great Movie Ride was my favourite ride as a kid, and MGM was my favorite park. I loved the feeling of a working(ish) movie studio. It's kind of a shame they changed directions from looking behind the scenes at filmmaking to being in movies. Still cool, but I prefer the old way. Also, Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway can suck a lemon.
The problem with the Great Movie Ride was, like everything, Disney cut quality. Instead of paying entertainers, they cut costs and let low paid cast members do the narration. By the end the acting quality of the cast members was just awful and/or boring. Like the Jungle Cruise it all depended on the performance.
As a zoomer, I can confirm that most of us have seen wizard of oz. Also, I do genuinely agree that The Great Movie Ride may not have been as good as most people remember.
It was good. I'm not that old..lol I remember it clearly I've ridden it tons and it wasn't that long ago my 2 boys and went on it. They ❤Ed the cast members, the witch, the alien and the gangsters
For 21:33, and idk if I count as “young” anymore since I’m 19, but the great movie ride was one of my favourite rides of all time simply because it had old Hollywood as it’s theme. Sure I hadn’t seen most of the more modern stuff, especially alien or Indiana Joan’s, but The Wizard of Oz was one of my favourite movies as a kid. Singin’ In The Rain is still my favourite movie musical and I personally adored seeing it as a child in the ride, because as a kid growing up in the early 2010s, no one really cared about old Hollywood movies and it gave me a chance to see *something* that showed that people cared about it and thought it was as good as I already did.
Side note: im doing the college program right now and going to Hollywood studios and walking down sunset boulevard in the warm Florida rain has been one of my favourite experiences of all time at Disney.
"...from when they were children..." Any chance you've got any footage of the mule rides in Adventureland? I seem to remember it was supposed to be the Grand Canyon trail. I know it climbed up and around and back down. So at least I can say I've ridden a mule.
I am old enough to have experienced Old Epcot. Here's my rundown - Spaceship Earth is half fun, half insanely annoying from laying on your back with no head support. That hasn't changed. Horizons was fun, but I admit I wouldn't have liked it as much if they hadn't used the Carousel family. World of Motion was hilarious. I'd swap Test Track for it in a heartbeat. The original Universe of Energy, before Ellen, was junior high science class with a few dinosaurs thrown in. Communicore was always so packed you could never get near anything, but I vaguely remember seeing a show or two. The original Seas, well, the aquarium was fun but the movie was, again, junior high science class. For the Land, I seem to remember the boat ride as a bit more sterile. Evidently Disney thought farming was huge swaths of empty land with nobody working on it. I thought Kitchen Kaberet was lots of fun, and I'm sorry they couldn't keep it considering how small the theater was in comparison to Soarin's footprint. And as for Imagination, we are all in deep mourning for Dreamfinder. I was at Magic Kingdom when the Skyway was there, but Mom and Dad didn't want to ride it so I can't give an opinion on how fun it was. I'll join you in the heresy that Great Movie Ride was really showing its age. Going in, the first thing you saw was the broken turntable packed with frozen Busby Berkeley girls. Not good. And I agree that Maelstrom just wasn't drawing much traffic, unlike Frozen with lines to China.
I definitely feel like I’ve thought this before and I’m sure someone else has had this idea too, but I feel like you could easily make a spiritual successor to Adventures Through Inner Space with Ant-Man and The Wasp! I mean, “Inner Space” is the same as the Quantum Realm.
You got me badly at Great Movie Ride… rofl 🤣 I was sooo ready to defend it but then I realized you like it as much as we all do in the core Disney fandom and that you actually had a pretty good argument!! Although, I’d say I feel sorry for the kids who aren’t getting treated to Oz!!! My parents loved that movie so I was asking to be Dorothy for Halloween and trying to sing “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” as soon as I could walk and talk!
@@alrob2224 because it has the slowest loading time out of all the rides its not because how many people its because it takes forever to load people on and get them off
We have a version of soarin in Las Vegas called flyover. They have two films, the wild west and iceland. Both are awesome. There are a lot of rides in Vegas now. I'm a concierge if you ever come visit
The CGI on Soarin’ Over California wasn’t great… Soarin’ Over The World was a massive downgrade… and as a result it just isn’t as immersive. Changed it from a repeat ride every time I visit, to a definite skip on my part. Maybe others are a bigger fan than me. (There’s also a tear/blacked out portion in one of the screens that hasn’t been repaired for the better part of a decade which impacts things quite a bit.)
Haven’t started the video yet but I sure hope Peter Pan is on here. Sure it’s classic Disney, and it’s a neat ride, But there is absolutely no reason that the standby should be as long as flight of passage or rise of the resistance. It should be about as long as little mermaid carousel of progress or haunted mansion at most.
I never got to go on the Great Movie Ride. Bummer I would have loved it. I think if you share things like movie classics and different music with kids when they are young they can appreciate them more.
Kitchen kabaret > Soarin over California > Food rocks > soarin over the world. Your vid made me motivated to watch kitchen kabaret vhs recording. It was real good. Egg audioanimatronic was awesome and veggie fruit fruit!
For me World Of Motion is so under rated. You always hear people talking about Journey into imagination and Horizons but never World Of Motion and personally I think World Of Motion is equally as good as both of them.
WoM was my personal fave as kid, closely followed by Journey into Imagination and Horizons. I still adore the originals of Epcot, even though I barely got a chance to enjoy most of them when I was still single digits for their closures. I would still go for any of them, barring (sorry) Living Seas.
Does anyone remember the Delta Dreamflight ride in Tomorrowland? That was my favorite as a kid and it seems completely forgotten. I recently watched a ride through and got the same feeling in my stomach like I was actually flying. It really made you feel like you were flying!
OMG! That was my fave ride as a kid too! :D While I haven't been back since I was kid, it just sounds like too much of a hassle with Genie & Genie plus & reservations that seem to suck the fun out of the experience, I know I'd definitely would miss it not being there. I also like Horizon's ride in EPCOT & the World of Motion. So many awesome rides are being replaced instead of updated. *sighs*
I fondly remember riding the Skyway for one reason - it gave you a wonderful overhead view of the park, something that is almost impossible to get now. I wish they could bring it back, but that's even less likely than the Peoplemover coming back. 😕
You had me worried and then I felt at ease. But I was then caught off guard when you truly shocked me. I thought you'd say Horizons was overrated and I was going to lose it. Horizons was genuinely one of the greatest attractions of any theme park. I think it's the Disney attraction in the post Walt era that Walt would have been most proud of. It was the whole package. It was a dark ride on roughly the same level as Pirates and Haunted Mansion but with Walt's optimism regarding the future. I'm blessed to have ridden it. But then you said The Great Movie Ride was overrated. Where do I begin? I guess I'll start by emphatically exclaiming that it was not only NOT overrated but it was unfortunately underrated. Just like with other edutainment attractions, it left people wanting to learn more. It wasn't there to just remind people of the movies they already like. It was there to open people up to the golden age of Hollywood (and Ridley Scott's Alien for some reason) and light the spark of excitement about film. It got you in the spirit of the studio era. The sets were fun. The tour guide was hammy. The audio-animatronics were great. And the magic of films really came alive. You know you've got a successful attraction when people get off wanting to get into a new topic. The fact that some people didn't like it because it was unfamiliar isn't a legitimate criticism if you ask me. Those are the same people who said original EPCOT Center was boring. Those are the people who think Disney needs bigger rollercoasters or more edgy modern IPs and think fairytales and cartoons are for children.
You know what, not enough people talk about how amazing it feels when your feet lift off the ground in Soarin after a long day or few days on your feet. Even sitting in most rides, if your feet are on the ground, it’s not much of a relief. But Soarin feels incredible
17:38 Nope. World of Motion was completely gutted in prep for Test Track 1.0, everything was removed. Props, showpieces, murals, the whole thing. NOTHING from World of Motion remains “hidden” anywhere in that structure.
Being as old as Disneyland, I’ve ridden all those rides mentioned in your video (except MRR). Adventures through inner space was the ride you went on to cool off or make out so Star Tours gets my vote there. I loved Kitchen Cabaret, but Soarin’ is a better attraction. I don’t know if MRR is better than GMR, but I really liked that ride, especially the live actors. Glad you gave us all a chance to reminisce and ponder. Very creative.
I have been on three of these rides - Journey Into Inner Space, Skyway to Tomorrowland, and Soarin’ Over California. The best, IMO, was Soarin’, with that amazing Jerry Goldsmith score. The Skyway was fun, allowing riders to take in all of the sights and sounds of Disneyland in only a few minutes. All I really recall about Inner Space was my father convinced me that the little figurines seen before we went on the ride were people who had actually been shrunk, the giant eyeball at the beginning, and giant snow flakes. Inner Space was probably the only overrated ride of the three. I like Star Tours much more.
I think Peter Pan's Flight might be overrated. Not because it is a bad ride, but because it is almost as popular as Rise of the Resistance, and I do not get why. I think it is actually shorter than the other dark rides.
I miss Adventure through Inner Space. There were so many cool moments in that ride. It certainly was never as crowded as Star Tours, but I would ride it back to back to back if I could.
It's not up to kids to watch classic movies, it's up to parents to show their children them. My parents showed me Singing in the Rain and the Wizard of Oz.
I'm old enough to have seen Adventure Through Inner Space (as a kid in 1972) and it was cool, but not amazing. This was back in the days of ticket books with the A through E tickets and it definitely wasn't an E. My first Disneyland experience was The Enchanted Tiki Room and the standouts were The Haunted Mansion and Pirates of course (Jungle Cruise was fun too).
That’s what I was thinking too… it was never an E ticket ride. But since I was still a kid, and scared of some of the E ticket rides, Adventure Thru Inner Space was my favorite ride. I guess you had to be there. (Plus, the Peoplemover went thru it… that has to boost its rating, right?? 😉)
I gotta hand it to you Offhand, I keep discovering attractions I’ve never heard of. Some are fascinating others, like in this video aren’t. But still you make it all sound more fun. Plus finding another narration by my idol Paul Frees, awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
When I went to Disneyland in April, they were running Soarin' Over California, because of course food and wine festival, and getting to see the original again, after so many years of Soarin' Around the World at Epcot, I was like. Yessssss!!!!!! Also, what is it with Paul Frees and omnimover rides?
As an "old fart" Disneyland lover I must say I LOVED the sky buckets & was extremely sad to see them discontinued. I went to ride them on the last day at my lunch (& got back to work late, oops!). I have super fond memories of Adventure thru Inner Space. Was it thrilling or action packed? No but as a wee one I always believed we were shrunk & really traveled inside a humans blood, etc. As for Star Tours: went to the opening 3 day event. It was not a special after hours party as it was open for 72 hr event! We waited over 5 hours (the line went all the way back to the main gate/parking lot area). DCA didn't exist yet so we just slept out in our car as the parking lot was right there! I still have my ticket & the blue rubber digital watch they gave out at the main gate. Great experiences, great memories. I love my Disneyland! 💜🤟🥰❤️🔥
Maelstrom getting canned for Frozen remains the one ride change I am still bitter about, but I also have to admit that you have a point about the rides having to change to appeal to the guests who aren't diehard Disney Parks fans. They'd better keep Muppetvision at Studios, though, I will chain myself to the building in protest if they ever announce they're demolishing Grand Avenue. Also, as someone who rode both the Great Movie Ride and Runaway Railway: Thank you for taking the time to talk about that change in a way that is not overly harsh or critical of Runaway Railway. I definitely think they could've updated the theming on GMR and made it work for a more modern audience, but I think Runaway Railway doesn't get enough credit for being genuinely charming because people are still so bitter about that change.
REALLY I remember being on the ride the last year it operated .... but while i am not a huge fan of Testtrack ... unlike some other classic Epcot rides .. back then i remember it was seeming to get dated .... like Horizons ... I think it needed updating and "TLC" I do think I'd like the Cars ride on the west coast, over either Test Track
It's funny, I grew up in the 70's(Disneyland was much better then). But the eighties retro futurism, was really the 70's retro futurism. Since EPCOT was designed in the 70's. When the eighties came around we were all confused, because Hollywood was mostly showing us a dystopian(Mad Max) future. Mainly because those films were cheaper to produce.
I’m 10 and I loved maelstrom and the great movie ride. Frozen ever after and Mickey and Minnie’s runaway railroad are awesome though! And yes, I like the wizard of oz.
"Adventure Thru Inner Space" was so popular because it was FREE -- it was one of the very few attractions that didn't require a ticket (that, plus it almost always had a short wait). Once tickets were done away with in 1982, it was the beginning of the end for Paul Frees, Atommobiles, and the Mighty Microscope.
The thing is, a lot of these attractions are missed because they were outstandingly fleshed out stories: theme songs/scores, unique characters and storylines, and even some advanced technology or innovative approaches with older tech. And a bunch of these had a wide audience that could enjoy them, too. The recent Disney key of "inclusion" doesn't seem to be applicable to new attractions and experiences. If you aren't inhibited for physical reasons, you may be for financial ones. Let's hope that shifts back soon.
I absolutely loathed that movie as a child because it took so many FUNDAMENTAL liberties from the books. I'm not so hard on it as an adult because it's got a lot of charm in its own right, and the music is good.
As much as I love it, Peter Pan is overrated. I know this is a hot take, but imo Rise of The Resistance is also overrated (oh I know that just triggered somebody) it’s not worth waiting more than 2 hrs for but it’s still solid. MMRR is also overrated imo
@@thekungfuchickennugget7578 sure. My real problem comes with the ride itself. The attraction as a whole is solid as I mentioned, therefore I give it a 7/10. However, most of that seven comes from the queue. Without a doubt, the queue is the most spectacular part of the attraction. However, for me, that’s where it peaks. The ride from there on is just a little chase around a ship. All be it the sets are very impressive (the AT AT is incredibly impressive), but the ride track is very… dull. What I mean is that it’s trackless, but Disney doesn’t really use it to their advantage other than to show how clean the rides floor is although it mixes pretty well with the floor of the First Order’s ship. It doesn’t really throw you in for a loop with it being trackless nor does it spread far across the rooms and sets (I have this same issue with MMRR). It’s simply underutilized. I would suggest you watch ROTR, and then watch a ride through of Mystic Manor in Hong Kong and Beauty and The Beast in Tokyo to get what I’m trying to say. Those rides make better use of their limited space. Another issue I have with the ride is there are no effects. For example, you don’t feel hot air in your face when you’re blasted at by the walker or when Kylo’s lightsaber goes thru the elevator. Effects like this can play a huge factor in how immersive the attraction is (which is kinda funny because the whole queue did that, but the ride couldn’t) and imo go a long way. It’s why I personally love Remy’s Adventure, as that ride used many effects to immerse you into the experience (the heated oven, Linguini hitting you with a mop, the champagne pouring out). I also have this same issue with MMRR. I don’t want to simply see the action in front of me, I want to feel immersed into it. Now this one may seem petty, but although the Kylo animatronic is impressive, it’s exit is hilariously bad. The ride could’ve used something imo to make his exit more realistic and not as exaggerated. Seriously poor guy looked like one of those inflatables outside of car dealers lmaooo. It made me laugh but I knew Disney could’ve done better with that. Really Disney just could’ve done a little better with the ride and could’ve made some slight improvements. I wanna restate that imo the ride is still solid (7/10) and I enjoy it to an extent. It’s just overrated imo as I’ve heard this be “the best attraction in Disney”, “the best attraction in the world”, “the best attraction in the universe”, “Disney Parks magnum opus”, etc. Apologies for the long post :)
@@NinthShinigami okay! Those points make sense and I agree on you with most of them. Although I think they had to make Kylo Rens exit the way it is so it’s family friendly for the young kids and stuff. (Plus canonically he comes back for the movies so there has to be a way for him to survive). But good points all around! Thanks!
I'm slightly surprised the Submarine rides didn't get mentioned? I guess I'm in the minority for rating the original Disneyland subs VERY highly as the ultimate in Imagineering immersive theatre! Yes it's claustrophobic, slow loading, etc etc but it completely transports you to another world. I don't know much at all about the WDW version but I have fond childhood memories of the DLR subs, before they got Nemo-ified - which I don't hate...
I don't remember how good they were since I was pretty little when I saw them, but I remember that I liked Kitchen Cabaret, but not so much Food Rocks. And I loooved World of Motion! I actually bought Footlight Parade because of the Great Movie Ride, and Singin' in the Rain has always been a family favourite.
I'm 20 and I'm about to watch it for the first time!!!!!!!!!!! I always passed it up as a kid for some reason. I'm sure I'll love it now though 😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
At first I thought, “oh no, Dallen is gonna dis Horizons, and thems FIGHTIN words”, but, as usual, your commentary is well-researched, thoughtful, and intelligent; so thank you for that! Still have my love for Inner Space and TGMR intact! 😎
WOM was better than any version of Test Track. Went on it at least 20 times. Since it was a historical retrospective ride like Spaceship Earth, it just needed some updates for modern times and future...
I agree with u on everything but GMR. It wasn’t overrated. It was just due for a refresh. It needed new movie scenes, especially at the beginning. If it could have been updated they way it should have been, GMR would never have been outdated or overrated.
I'm glad you didn't say that "Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln" was overrated.... Next to the Haunted Mansion, and Pirates, Great Moments is my favorite attraction at Disneyland.
im so sad, last time i went i straight up could not figure out how to watch it, and this next upcoming time it's closed for refurbishment ;w; i want to experience great moments so bad!
I would like to see the Great Movie Ride come back, but have it be dedicated to genres rather than any specific movies, that way not only is it more evergreen, but you could maybe poke fun at genre specific tropes.
Adventures through Inner Space was then I rode it I was young and I could tell it was kinda old already but it made you feel like you were being shrunk down and it was slow and casual like the people mover. Of course the voice actor was familiar also. The line was small so it was fun for a little kid I thought. Perhaps they need more inventive rides like this to lower the line ques. Too bad you never got to ride it. Maybe you could put a virtual ride like this together and others like the people mover
Hey everyone, just remember that these are all my opinion and that Adventure Thru Inner Space is cool. That is all.
Respectfully, as an Adventure Thru Inner Space stan, I am disappointed the same logic used for Star Tours wasn't used for the far more popular Test Track. I grudgingly agreed with the former, but the latter does make it hard to swallow.
Dalin do you think Bob Cheapek should be banished to the commercial realm?
Yes Lord Dallin
Hey offhand Disney i saw Disney Dan's video on cosmic rewind & he said it wasn't very good
@@rgjarrell I mean he said it was the “worst ride he loved” so I’m just confused at this point.
I think the Great Movie Ride was one of the best rides Disney ever made, I don’t think it needed to be updated as often as other rides based on the future like Spaceship Earth. The movies in there were classics and that will never change. I miss that ride every day.
Agreed I’d put it in that SSS+ tier of Disney rides
My honest defense for why they should have kept the Great Movie ride is that it was arguably timeless and if it needed to have present day things it could have been a dumping ground for miscellaneous IP without a home. I mean look at the catalog of movies Disney now has the rights to..
Totally agreed
great movie ride using old movies made sense with the theme of the park being "classic hollywood" but now it seems that hollywood studios barely has a theme at all anymore
I don't get the superlatives for GMR. It was good, but IMHO MMRR is more interesting
I totally agree with you that the Soarins should be at their respective geographically appropriate Disneys. No-brainer!
i've always thought that they shouldve done that, it would make so much more sense. i'm glad other people agree
Or at the very least at DCA, since they have the two theatres, one side be World the other be Over California
@@stephengrant2900 well epcot has 3 theaters and as much as i prefer soarin over california and would love to see it come back to epcot i highly doubt it will.
I think it should make sense thematically. Like I dont think Soarin' in Japan should feature japan.
My niece was a guide on The Great Movie Ride. I laughed every time I rode with her as the guide and she said Footlight Parade was one of her favorite movies. She'd never seen it and had no clue -- just following the script.
Kind of surprised they didn’t make them watch the movies if they were gonna say that. Wheat would they say if some asked about it?
I’ll accept Footlight Parade slander but not Singin’ in the Rain. That and Oz are two of the most popular films of all time. What I never understood as a kid was why they never tried to update the Tarzan segment. 40’s Tarzan seemed soooooo old compared to the tree surfer Tarzan we got in the 1999 movie. Also while I think of it why they never did anything more with the Fantasia “we wanted more Oz but couldn’t afford it” segment.
Hey Offhand, been a fan for a long time. Just felt the urge to let you know that you make some of the best RUclips content out there. Always excited when one of your vids comes up. Keep Moving Forward dude!
Dallin, you broke my heart a little with the great movie ride!! I've only been on it once since I got to enjoy it on my first Disney World trip and it was probably my favorite ride that I went on that entire trip. I consider myself a pretty young person and I have seen The Wizard of Oz AND Singing in the Rain. The only movies I haven't seen from the rides are Casablanca (but I recognize the scene in the ride because of how iconic it is) and Alien (I'm just not a fan of scary movies.) I greatly miss the great movie ride and I will forever be sad that it is gone!!
This video is the definition of, "how would you say something so controversial yet so brave".
I might agree or disagree with what you said, but I respect you. Some things are better than old Disney, and some old Disney is better than what we currently have.
I’ve always felt Adventures Thru Inner Space seemed scarier than haunted mansion. Due in part to the setting being an infinite black void with who knows what being in there and no humanity in sight, alongside Paul Frees’s narration and the manic soundtrack. It feels lovecraftian in a way with how it presents being shrunken down.
That sounds cool! One reason I rode Horizons over and over was for that moment with the two Omnimax screens where if your ride timed just right you'd hit the "flying through DNA" sequence just perfectly where it felt like the car was no longer on a track but traveling forward at a million miles an hour! If you were unlucky you just got to watch big crystals grow...which I now realize was a shout out to Adventures Thru Inner Space...!
Horizons was the apex of Disney's "speed tunnel" effect from "If You Had Wings" and "World of Motion" (where you got _three_ of them!) - the suspended side-moving cars meant there was no ride-path exit door in the way of the screen. The evolution of it is "Soarin'".
One other thing I remember - because Horizons had suspended cars, the ride was never bumpy the way Spaceship Earth can be with the continuous chain of cars stressing the segmented track curves. That's one major strike on Spaceship earth - hard fiberglass ride vehicles with no padding when you're laying back on the way down and you head jolts the speaker on the headrest...ow.
*waves* Hellooo, I'm fourteen so I dunno if I'm a "young person", but I *have* seen the Wizard of Oz multiple times and I adore it. It might just be because I'm a theatre nerd and also a huge fan of Wicked, but the original Wizard of Oz movie always gives me a lot of nostalgia and I love it a lot.
I’m 18 now and I love the Wizard of Oz. The Great Movie Ride was sincerely one of my most favourite rides at the parks. From a young age, even if I hadn’t seen all of the films featured, it made me want to see them! It was a perfect ride for Disney and I’m sad that they weren’t able to see its potential for some change rather than reworking it completely, especially with Disney+.
One would a thunk it'd be a no brainer...sigh yup I hear it
Imagine a world where Horizons come back with more retro 80s future scenes, like entering into that "Nova Cite" where people live in the future, go through the street and see what people do inside those skyscrapers, after that you enter a tunnel and magically appear in Mesa Verde, where you see all the (Now Eco-Friendly) harvesting techniques that humans will use in the future. If Disney made a new version of the attraction, I know it would be a revolutionary Dark Ride.
Monkey’s paw: we get that ride but it also ties into Encanto.
@@ryanb4940, Chapek needs to learn that educational IP rides are fun !
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Maelstrom was awesome! Log ride with a flume! What a great ride!
What else could you want in a ride?! A log ride WITH a flume!
Singin in the Rain and Wizard of Oz and Casablanca are staple images in pop culture. Even as little kids my brother and I recognized them on the ride.
Soarin' Over California has a spectacular Jerry Goldsmith Score. So of course that wins. But I must disagree with you regarding Mission Space. Mission Space has an actual Kill Count! Does Horizon's have a Body Count? I don't think so! Lame!
Obviously I loved Horizons. My favorite attraction in 80s Epcot. Great video.
Horizons was so awesome. Even the building shape was designed to indicate an actual "horizon" with rooflines directing to a perspective vanishing point.
Footlight Parade was a Yeti situation: I rode GMR the first year and it was basically a spectacular giant motorized spinning fountain with manikins stuck all around it with water crashing down directly which was impressive since the entire first scene you moved into was raining _everywhere._ But the water splash off the figures was also hitting the scrim which was gonna cause issues. It was a too-big water feature in a dry dark ride.
Horizons was perfect! I looooved Horizons! I was working at EPCOT at the time it closed, and no one really knew it was coming. Very late in the evening on the night it closed, a CM taped a hand-written sign to the main wardrobe door saying it was closing forever and to ride it tonight. I only saw it the next morning, and was so heartbroken.
We'll never see anything on that ambitious a scale again. Rise of the Resistance comes close, but is much more prone to breakdowns and I don;t think it moves as many guests through per hour.
My favorite Epcot ride. It closed one week before we got there for our honeymoon.
As much as I love the Great Movie Ride, I knew that it was going to either be majorly updated or replaced for lack of resonance with the average guest. I still hold out hope that they will make a new Disney-ified version of the Great Movie Ride, likely in the area where the star wars launch bay is currently.
I miss the Skyway ..... I remember the views of another favorite of mine ... 20,000 Leagues under the Sea
Let’s not get carried away about Inner Space. My brother and I would ride this together (parents in other car) and we’d laugh ourselves silly over how cheap it was. The molecules were clearly spray painted styrofoam hanging by fishing line, the atoms were Projection Technology v1.0. And yes, you could reach out and hit the styrofoam props. Not that WE would…
Boy i sure do love "Its hot outside and there Is AC in here so i dont mind waiting for a potentially meh experience" rides!
which rides do u mean lol
Crazy idea- use something like the Carousel Theater to show videos of these old rides that people love so much. I would be thrilled to sit in the dark and listen to the narration of Inner Space and see whatever video they have of it. I’m sure there are millions of reasons it wouldn’t happen but now I can’t stop thinking about how much I would love to see the Bear Country Jamboree, too. I don’t want to tear anything new down, I would just love to be able to bask in the nostalgia of these experiences that I miss.
When Space Mountain de la Terre a la Lune appeared I screamed “don’t you dare, DONT YOU DARE”
You had me worried, there, especially when I thought you were going to call Horizons overrated. I agree with you on all counts, but my sympathies to you for having missed World of Motion. I loved it, even at age 7 in 1983. Though as a 46 year old, I'm honestly not sure why. But I did, and I miss it greatly. I also loved the Skyway. And, clearly, Horizons. I even agree on the Great Movie Ride. I liked it, but I don't mourn it like I do Horizons.
Not young anymore, but Wizard of Oz was one of my very favorite movies as a child in the 90s. I will never not miss GMR
I feel that Soarin' needs an overhaul overall. Would love to see all the versions refilmed with the best cameras available and the projectors on the rides upgraded to the best available. Both cameras and CGI have been improved, as have projector technology. I feel that everything could be enhanced, despite the fact that myself any my family applaud at the end of any Soarin' adventure as is only right. We clap when things are good! That is what you do! Fight me!
Slinky Dog Dash, it's a god damn family coaster that pulls over 2 hour waits. WHY?! Firechaser Express at Dollywood also pulls long waits but I can understand because it's actually pretty forceful for a family coaster forceful enough that adults can enjoy it
All of Toy Story land is overrated. Slinky somehow makes Seven D look better. Both are still overrated tho imo
slinky is more fun than seven D but i like that one lift hill in the mine with the dwarfs. that’s about it
Some people *really* love Toy Story, namely my wife. She doesn't give a crap about roller coasters, but you better believe we waited over an hour in line. And she had a great time in line, taking pictures of all the themed set pieces along the way.
Disney understands that some of their IP really draws people in.
Adventure Through Inner Space and the Skyway are two of my most vivid memories from my first visit to Disneyland.
The surviving footage of ATIS does not do the ride justice. Yes, the old technology wouldn't hold up against modern standards, but as a 10 year-old in 1975 it was fascinating. I recall an effect that made the ride vehicles ahead of you look like they were shrinking in front of your eyes -- I knew at the time that it was an illusion, but do not recollect how it was done.
The highlight of the Skyway, for me, was passing through the Matterhorn, which at that time was still a hollow shell. You could look down and see the coaster tracks crisscrossing all the way to the ground. Obviously that was no longer an option once the tracks had been enclosed in tunnels.
I remember those too! I miss America Sings also.
It may have been "old technology," but practical effects will always top projections and CGI for immersive experience.
@@ttintagel No argument. But even the practical effects technology has improved massively over the past 50 years. The Pirates animatronics in 1975 were basically mannequins who did little more than raise their arms and turn their heads -- cool at the time, but now they're fully articulated and far more realistic.
@@rattiegirl5 Yes! I remember riding Splash Mountain for the first time and thinking, "Wait...Don't I know those critters...?" No Internet then, so it wasn't until years later I found out I was right.
as a child of the 70s myself… heh, you just reminded me of this… it was a strobe light, I think… possibly the light moved ?…made the shadows of the riders look like they were shrinking… and then the miniature riders in the queue you had already seen reinforced the idea that is where you were in the ride
Hi, You never mention the original EPCOT Center attraction LISTEN to the Land. It was better than the current Living With the Land for the following reasons... Better opening scene, live cast member narration, and MOST OF ALL.. a very memorable theme song, "Listen to the Land". The song makes a huge difference.
An extra for you...Spaceship Earth... The Jeremy Irons version was much better than the current offering.
I was 29 years old when I visited EPCOT Center the first year it opened and was fortunate enough to go again several times in the 80s during it's heyday. Also visited twice in the mid 90's, just as the park was starting its downward spiral. Been several times since and have been disappointed at the continued downgrading of the park's original theme and architectural sight lines.
Like your videos and am especially glad to see a younger generation appreciate the original EPCOT Center... Still don't believe Guardians belongs there.
Keep up the good work.
- Be well
Listen to the laaaaaaaaand, listen to the land!
World of Motion and Horizons were so much fun, and probably why I'm a history and science buff today
He was so delirious from his entrapment he forgot to mention Magic Candle Company, LOL. Great video as always, Dallin.
And more Foolish Mortals! Awesome!
When my mom and I went to Disneyland in the mid 70’s to the late 70’s, my mom would get stoned on the Skyway
The UK version of that Space Mountain ad is seared into my brain because it was on a VHS I had as a child and it always seemed so exciting and terrifying to me. I never actually got to ride that version of the attraction though, because I was too small, but from all I can gather the ad doesn't really reflect its theming in that incarnation anyway.
The very fact that most current guests have not heard of Footlight Parade or Casablanca or the Wizard of Oz is reason enough that TGMR should exist. They are part of the history of movies. But I understand that attractions have an expiration date. However, the replacement should be better than the original. MMRR is not. My first impression was that it looked like a high school carnival with cardboard cutouts. The plot is confusing. That Daisy dance class is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Current Figment is not as stupid. But the saddest thing is replacing all the realistic animatronics with screens. I'm not against screen based attractions if they look good. MMRR doesn't. It is a pitiful excuse for a replacement to TGMR.
Great Movie Ride was my favourite ride as a kid, and MGM was my favorite park. I loved the feeling of a working(ish) movie studio. It's kind of a shame they changed directions from looking behind the scenes at filmmaking to being in movies. Still cool, but I prefer the old way. Also, Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway can suck a lemon.
Overrated is what people say to justify their terrible opinions.
The problem with the Great Movie Ride was, like everything, Disney cut quality. Instead of paying entertainers, they cut costs and let low paid cast members do the narration. By the end the acting quality of the cast members was just awful and/or boring. Like the Jungle Cruise it all depended on the performance.
As a zoomer, I can confirm that most of us have seen wizard of oz. Also, I do genuinely agree that The Great Movie Ride may not have been as good as most people remember.
I've never seen the wizard of oz 😭
@@crazyowlgirlcncowner good for u
It was good. I'm not that old..lol I remember it clearly I've ridden it tons and it wasn't that long ago my 2 boys and went on it. They ❤Ed the cast members, the witch, the alien and the gangsters
For 21:33, and idk if I count as “young” anymore since I’m 19, but the great movie ride was one of my favourite rides of all time simply because it had old Hollywood as it’s theme. Sure I hadn’t seen most of the more modern stuff, especially alien or Indiana Joan’s, but The Wizard of Oz was one of my favourite movies as a kid. Singin’ In The Rain is still my favourite movie musical and I personally adored seeing it as a child in the ride, because as a kid growing up in the early 2010s, no one really cared about old Hollywood movies and it gave me a chance to see *something* that showed that people cared about it and thought it was as good as I already did.
Side note: im doing the college program right now and going to Hollywood studios and walking down sunset boulevard in the warm Florida rain has been one of my favourite experiences of all time at Disney.
"...from when they were children..." Any chance you've got any footage of the mule rides in Adventureland? I seem to remember it was supposed to be the Grand Canyon trail. I know it climbed up and around and back down. So at least I can say I've ridden a mule.
Journey into inner space, now don’t forget about the GIANT eyeball looking at you through the microscopic
Go Orange team! Having thrill rides at Disney is part of a nice mix of attractions.
I am old enough to have experienced Old Epcot. Here's my rundown - Spaceship Earth is half fun, half insanely annoying from laying on your back with no head support. That hasn't changed. Horizons was fun, but I admit I wouldn't have liked it as much if they hadn't used the Carousel family. World of Motion was hilarious. I'd swap Test Track for it in a heartbeat. The original Universe of Energy, before Ellen, was junior high science class with a few dinosaurs thrown in. Communicore was always so packed you could never get near anything, but I vaguely remember seeing a show or two. The original Seas, well, the aquarium was fun but the movie was, again, junior high science class. For the Land, I seem to remember the boat ride as a bit more sterile. Evidently Disney thought farming was huge swaths of empty land with nobody working on it. I thought Kitchen Kaberet was lots of fun, and I'm sorry they couldn't keep it considering how small the theater was in comparison to Soarin's footprint. And as for Imagination, we are all in deep mourning for Dreamfinder. I was at Magic Kingdom when the Skyway was there, but Mom and Dad didn't want to ride it so I can't give an opinion on how fun it was. I'll join you in the heresy that Great Movie Ride was really showing its age. Going in, the first thing you saw was the broken turntable packed with frozen Busby Berkeley girls. Not good. And I agree that Maelstrom just wasn't drawing much traffic, unlike Frozen with lines to China.
Universe of Energy was where we used to go for the afternoon nap.
Did the turntable ever work well? I don't remember it really working when I went and I watched videos from the early 90s when it was broken
I definitely feel like I’ve thought this before and I’m sure someone else has had this idea too, but I feel like you could easily make a spiritual successor to Adventures Through Inner Space with Ant-Man and The Wasp! I mean, “Inner Space” is the same as the Quantum Realm.
I feel like great movie ride is still perfect for hollywood studios. But runaway railway will work perfectly for disneyland’s toontown
You got me badly at Great Movie Ride… rofl 🤣 I was sooo ready to defend it but then I realized you like it as much as we all do in the core Disney fandom and that you actually had a pretty good argument!! Although, I’d say I feel sorry for the kids who aren’t getting treated to Oz!!! My parents loved that movie so I was asking to be Dorothy for Halloween and trying to sing “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” as soon as I could walk and talk!
Peter Pan is like 10000000000 percent overrated. I would rather wait for Winnie the Pooh or haunted mansion instead lol
agree
Omg winnie the pooh sucks. So does the mermaid one
PETER PANS FLIGHT IS ONE OF THE BEST DISNEY RIDES !
I’ve never understood why it always has 70 minute waits
@@alrob2224 because it has the slowest loading time out of all the rides its not because how many people its because it takes forever to load people on and get them off
We have a version of soarin in Las Vegas called flyover. They have two films, the wild west and iceland. Both are awesome. There are a lot of rides in Vegas now. I'm a concierge if you ever come visit
The CGI on Soarin’ Over California wasn’t great… Soarin’ Over The World was a massive downgrade… and as a result it just isn’t as immersive. Changed it from a repeat ride every time I visit, to a definite skip on my part. Maybe others are a bigger fan than me. (There’s also a tear/blacked out portion in one of the screens that hasn’t been repaired for the better part of a decade which impacts things quite a bit.)
Haven’t started the video yet but I sure hope Peter Pan is on here. Sure it’s classic Disney, and it’s a neat ride, But there is absolutely no reason that the standby should be as long as flight of passage or rise of the resistance. It should be about as long as little mermaid carousel of progress or haunted mansion at most.
Yeah so I was very wrong about what this video was going to be about
I never got to go on the Great Movie Ride. Bummer I would have loved it. I think if you share things like movie classics and different music with kids when they are young they can appreciate them more.
Kitchen kabaret > Soarin over California > Food rocks > soarin over the world. Your vid made me motivated to watch kitchen kabaret vhs recording. It was real good. Egg audioanimatronic was awesome and veggie fruit fruit!
For me World Of Motion is so under rated. You always hear people talking about Journey into imagination and Horizons but never World Of Motion and personally I think World Of Motion is equally as good as both of them.
As a kid, WOM was my favorite ride in all of Epcot and WDW. Fantastic scene after fantastic scene, funny, and tons of animatronics.
WoM was my personal fave as kid, closely followed by Journey into Imagination and Horizons. I still adore the originals of Epcot, even though I barely got a chance to enjoy most of them when I was still single digits for their closures. I would still go for any of them, barring (sorry) Living Seas.
Does anyone remember the Delta Dreamflight ride in Tomorrowland? That was my favorite as a kid and it seems completely forgotten. I recently watched a ride through and got the same feeling in my stomach like I was actually flying. It really made you feel like you were flying!
OMG! That was my fave ride as a kid too! :D While I haven't been back since I was kid, it just sounds like too much of a hassle with Genie & Genie plus & reservations that seem to suck the fun out of the experience, I know I'd definitely would miss it not being there. I also like Horizon's ride in EPCOT & the World of Motion. So many awesome rides are being replaced instead of updated. *sighs*
I fondly remember riding the Skyway for one reason - it gave you a wonderful overhead view of the park, something that is almost impossible to get now. I wish they could bring it back, but that's even less likely than the Peoplemover coming back. 😕
Soarin is my favorite attraction, I don’t care if some of the effects are outdated I just love the feeling of flight
You had me worried and then I felt at ease. But I was then caught off guard when you truly shocked me. I thought you'd say Horizons was overrated and I was going to lose it. Horizons was genuinely one of the greatest attractions of any theme park. I think it's the Disney attraction in the post Walt era that Walt would have been most proud of. It was the whole package. It was a dark ride on roughly the same level as Pirates and Haunted Mansion but with Walt's optimism regarding the future. I'm blessed to have ridden it.
But then you said The Great Movie Ride was overrated. Where do I begin? I guess I'll start by emphatically exclaiming that it was not only NOT overrated but it was unfortunately underrated. Just like with other edutainment attractions, it left people wanting to learn more. It wasn't there to just remind people of the movies they already like. It was there to open people up to the golden age of Hollywood (and Ridley Scott's Alien for some reason) and light the spark of excitement about film. It got you in the spirit of the studio era. The sets were fun. The tour guide was hammy. The audio-animatronics were great. And the magic of films really came alive. You know you've got a successful attraction when people get off wanting to get into a new topic.
The fact that some people didn't like it because it was unfamiliar isn't a legitimate criticism if you ask me. Those are the same people who said original EPCOT Center was boring. Those are the people who think Disney needs bigger rollercoasters or more edgy modern IPs and think fairytales and cartoons are for children.
They should make a park/new land somewhere that’s retro themed with old attractions
You know what, not enough people talk about how amazing it feels when your feet lift off the ground in Soarin after a long day or few days on your feet. Even sitting in most rides, if your feet are on the ground, it’s not much of a relief. But Soarin feels incredible
My mom and I would say that Soarin' was like a relaxing thrill ride. Best of both worlds. 😁
At 0:18 is that the dog from Carousel of Progress? Great watch, thanks for your time and hard work.....
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Nope. World of Motion was completely gutted in prep for Test Track 1.0, everything was removed. Props, showpieces, murals, the whole thing. NOTHING from World of Motion remains “hidden” anywhere in that structure.
Being as old as Disneyland, I’ve ridden all those rides mentioned in your video (except MRR). Adventures through inner space was the ride you went on to cool off or make out so Star Tours gets my vote there. I loved Kitchen Cabaret, but Soarin’ is a better attraction. I don’t know if MRR is better than GMR, but I really liked that ride, especially the live actors. Glad you gave us all a chance to reminisce and ponder. Very creative.
I have been on three of these rides - Journey Into Inner Space, Skyway to Tomorrowland, and Soarin’ Over California. The best, IMO, was Soarin’, with that amazing Jerry Goldsmith score. The Skyway was fun, allowing riders to take in all of the sights and sounds of Disneyland in only a few minutes. All I really recall about Inner Space was my father convinced me that the little figurines seen before we went on the ride were people who had actually been shrunk, the giant eyeball at the beginning, and giant snow flakes. Inner Space was probably the only overrated ride of the three. I like Star Tours much more.
I think Peter Pan's Flight might be overrated. Not because it is a bad ride, but because it is almost as popular as Rise of the Resistance, and I do not get why. I think it is actually shorter than the other dark rides.
I miss Adventure through Inner Space. There were so many cool moments in that ride. It certainly was never as crowded as Star Tours, but I would ride it back to back to back if I could.
It's not up to kids to watch classic movies, it's up to parents to show their children them. My parents showed me Singing in the Rain and the Wizard of Oz.
I'm old enough to have seen Adventure Through Inner Space (as a kid in 1972) and it was cool, but not amazing. This was back in the days of ticket books with the A through E tickets and it definitely wasn't an E. My first Disneyland experience was The Enchanted Tiki Room and the standouts were The Haunted Mansion and Pirates of course (Jungle Cruise was fun too).
Originally it was no ticket at all--Monsanto sponsored it to be free with park admission. But Wikipedia says that in 1972 it became a C ticket.
That’s what I was thinking too… it was never an E ticket ride. But since I was still a kid, and scared of some of the E ticket rides, Adventure Thru Inner Space was my favorite ride. I guess you had to be there. (Plus, the Peoplemover went thru it… that has to boost its rating, right?? 😉)
Our family just loves when you upload a new video! This was fun to watch.
I gotta hand it to you Offhand, I keep discovering attractions I’ve never heard of. Some are fascinating others, like in this video aren’t. But still you make it all sound more fun. Plus finding another narration by my idol Paul Frees, awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
When I went to Disneyland in April, they were running Soarin' Over California, because of course food and wine festival, and getting to see the original again, after so many years of Soarin' Around the World at Epcot, I was like. Yessssss!!!!!! Also, what is it with Paul Frees and omnimover rides?
As an "old fart" Disneyland lover I must say I LOVED the sky buckets & was extremely sad to see them discontinued. I went to ride them on the last day at my lunch (& got back to work late, oops!). I have super fond memories of Adventure thru Inner Space. Was it thrilling or action packed? No but as a wee one I always believed we were shrunk & really traveled inside a humans blood, etc.
As for Star Tours: went to the opening 3 day event. It was not a special after hours party as it was open for 72 hr event! We waited over 5 hours (the line went all the way back to the main gate/parking lot area). DCA didn't exist yet so we just slept out in our car as the parking lot was right there! I still have my ticket & the blue rubber digital watch they gave out at the main gate. Great experiences, great memories. I love my Disneyland! 💜🤟🥰❤️🔥
I want an official Disney VR app full of full simulations of expired rides.
Maelstrom getting canned for Frozen remains the one ride change I am still bitter about, but I also have to admit that you have a point about the rides having to change to appeal to the guests who aren't diehard Disney Parks fans.
They'd better keep Muppetvision at Studios, though, I will chain myself to the building in protest if they ever announce they're demolishing Grand Avenue.
Also, as someone who rode both the Great Movie Ride and Runaway Railway: Thank you for taking the time to talk about that change in a way that is not overly harsh or critical of Runaway Railway. I definitely think they could've updated the theming on GMR and made it work for a more modern audience, but I think Runaway Railway doesn't get enough credit for being genuinely charming because people are still so bitter about that change.
world of motion i only got to ride once and the main thing i remember about it, is that outdoor part (from the ride OR outside looking at the ride)
REALLY I remember being on the ride the last year it operated .... but while i am not a huge fan of Testtrack ... unlike some other classic Epcot rides .. back then i remember it was seeming to get dated .... like Horizons ... I think it needed updating and "TLC"
I do think I'd like the Cars ride on the west coast, over either Test Track
It's funny, I grew up in the 70's(Disneyland was much better then). But the eighties retro futurism, was really the 70's retro futurism. Since EPCOT was designed in the 70's. When the eighties came around we were all confused, because Hollywood was mostly showing us a dystopian(Mad Max) future. Mainly because those films were cheaper to produce.
When I was little, I loved Adventure through Innerspace. I wasn't upset when Star Tours was opened though.
I’m 10 and I loved maelstrom and the great movie ride. Frozen ever after and Mickey and Minnie’s runaway railroad are awesome though! And yes, I like the wizard of oz.
"Adventure Thru Inner Space" was so popular because it was FREE -- it was one of the very few attractions that didn't require a ticket (that, plus it almost always had a short wait). Once tickets were done away with in 1982, it was the beginning of the end for Paul Frees, Atommobiles, and the Mighty Microscope.
Ok, I don’t disagree exactly on The Great Movie Ride, but at the same time… you need to watch Singin in the Rain! Such a good movie!
The thing is, a lot of these attractions are missed because they were outstandingly fleshed out stories: theme songs/scores, unique characters and storylines, and even some advanced technology or innovative approaches with older tech. And a bunch of these had a wide audience that could enjoy them, too.
The recent Disney key of "inclusion" doesn't seem to be applicable to new attractions and experiences. If you aren't inhibited for physical reasons, you may be for financial ones. Let's hope that shifts back soon.
I fell in love with the transportation systems at a very young age in Anaheim - as an adult in Orlando I completely fell in love again
If you are an American IT IS A REQUIREMENT to see The Wizard of Oz at least ONCE the WHOLE WAY THROUGH.
I absolutely loathed that movie as a child because it took so many FUNDAMENTAL liberties from the books. I'm not so hard on it as an adult because it's got a lot of charm in its own right, and the music is good.
I would pay money for a Food Rocks gritty live action remake
As much as I love it, Peter Pan is overrated. I know this is a hot take, but imo Rise of The Resistance is also overrated (oh I know that just triggered somebody) it’s not worth waiting more than 2 hrs for but it’s still solid. MMRR is also overrated imo
Could I ask your opinion on why Rise of the Resistance is overrated? I'm just curious on your take.
@@thekungfuchickennugget7578 sure. My real problem comes with the ride itself. The attraction as a whole is solid as I mentioned, therefore I give it a 7/10. However, most of that seven comes from the queue. Without a doubt, the queue is the most spectacular part of the attraction. However, for me, that’s where it peaks.
The ride from there on is just a little chase around a ship. All be it the sets are very impressive (the AT AT is incredibly impressive), but the ride track is very… dull. What I mean is that it’s trackless, but Disney doesn’t really use it to their advantage other than to show how clean the rides floor is although it mixes pretty well with the floor of the First Order’s ship. It doesn’t really throw you in for a loop with it being trackless nor does it spread far across the rooms and sets (I have this same issue with MMRR). It’s simply underutilized. I would suggest you watch ROTR, and then watch a ride through of Mystic Manor in Hong Kong and Beauty and The Beast in Tokyo to get what I’m trying to say. Those rides make better use of their limited space.
Another issue I have with the ride is there are no effects. For example, you don’t feel hot air in your face when you’re blasted at by the walker or when Kylo’s lightsaber goes thru the elevator. Effects like this can play a huge factor in how immersive the attraction is (which is kinda funny because the whole queue did that, but the ride couldn’t) and imo go a long way. It’s why I personally love Remy’s Adventure, as that ride used many effects to immerse you into the experience (the heated oven, Linguini hitting you with a mop, the champagne pouring out). I also have this same issue with MMRR. I don’t want to simply see the action in front of me, I want to feel immersed into it.
Now this one may seem petty, but although the Kylo animatronic is impressive, it’s exit is hilariously bad. The ride could’ve used something imo to make his exit more realistic and not as exaggerated. Seriously poor guy looked like one of those inflatables outside of car dealers lmaooo. It made me laugh but I knew Disney could’ve done better with that.
Really Disney just could’ve done a little better with the ride and could’ve made some slight improvements. I wanna restate that imo the ride is still solid (7/10) and I enjoy it to an extent. It’s just overrated imo as I’ve heard this be “the best attraction in Disney”, “the best attraction in the world”, “the best attraction in the universe”, “Disney Parks magnum opus”, etc.
Apologies for the long post :)
@@NinthShinigami okay! Those points make sense and I agree on you with most of them. Although I think they had to make Kylo Rens exit the way it is so it’s family friendly for the young kids and stuff. (Plus canonically he comes back for the movies so there has to be a way for him to survive). But good points all around! Thanks!
I'm slightly surprised the Submarine rides didn't get mentioned? I guess I'm in the minority for rating the original Disneyland subs VERY highly as the ultimate in Imagineering immersive theatre! Yes it's claustrophobic, slow loading, etc etc but it completely transports you to another world. I don't know much at all about the WDW version but I have fond childhood memories of the DLR subs, before they got Nemo-ified - which I don't hate...
I don't remember how good they were since I was pretty little when I saw them, but I remember that I liked Kitchen Cabaret, but not so much Food Rocks. And I loooved World of Motion! I actually bought Footlight Parade because of the Great Movie Ride, and Singin' in the Rain has always been a family favourite.
I cracked up way more than I should have at "Ghost Host?!"
These narratives are getting more and more complex and I'm here for it
I'm 29 and "The wizard of Oz" is one of my all time favourite films 😀
I'm 20 and I'm about to watch it for the first time!!!!!!!!!!! I always passed it up as a kid for some reason. I'm sure I'll love it now though 😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
At first I thought, “oh no, Dallen is gonna dis Horizons, and thems FIGHTIN words”, but, as usual, your commentary is well-researched, thoughtful, and intelligent; so thank you for that! Still have my love for Inner Space and TGMR intact! 😎
I'm glad that I got to ride Adventure through InnerSpace. That ride was epic!
WOM was better than any version of Test Track. Went on it at least 20 times. Since it was a historical retrospective ride like Spaceship Earth, it just needed some updates for modern times and future...
I agree with u on everything but GMR. It wasn’t overrated. It was just due for a refresh. It needed new movie scenes, especially at the beginning. If it could have been updated they way it should have been, GMR would never have been outdated or overrated.
I'm glad you didn't say that "Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln" was overrated.... Next to the Haunted Mansion, and Pirates, Great Moments is my favorite attraction at Disneyland.
im so sad, last time i went i straight up could not figure out how to watch it, and this next upcoming time it's closed for refurbishment ;w; i want to experience great moments so bad!
The way you said "horrifying cheese women" might be my favourite line reading I've heard on your channel
Whoa, the Great Movie Ride was amazing, the last bit of OG MGM Studios nostalgia. I could care less about the Runaway Railway honestly.
I would like to see the Great Movie Ride come back, but have it be dedicated to genres rather than any specific movies, that way not only is it more evergreen, but you could maybe poke fun at genre specific tropes.
Adventures through Inner Space was then I rode it I was young and I could tell it was kinda old already but it made you feel like you were being shrunk down and it was slow and casual like the people mover. Of course the voice actor was familiar also. The line was small so it was fun for a little kid I thought. Perhaps they need more inventive rides like this to lower the line ques. Too bad you never got to ride it. Maybe you could put a virtual ride like this together and others like the people mover
I never got the Great Movie Ride enthusiasm. I thought it was lame and wondered why it was at Disneyland?