I like the idea of brushing it on. For those of us that don’t have time to do a frame off treatment. Just areas that we already have access too. Or just trying to get more years out of an old truck.
Man these videos are great. I am learning so much. Funny thing is I have been watching them looking at the tools and products going "oh that would be nice if I was rich". Then I finally went to the website and could kick myself. They are affordable. I just did my Bronco frame and after two days of scaling grinding sanding and wire wheel I needed to coat it. I spent more on a coating that i got local than i would have ordering from you guys. That is not that bad news it geys worse the stuff i bought looks like garbage two weeks later. So needless to say you will be seeing some orders from me real soon. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
The instructions and demonstration are well done. It's so easy when you have all kinds of equipment and a building in which to work. Unfortunately, I have only a few power and hand tools and a driveway. Air compressors and such are for rich people. LOL
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True i build my cars wherever I'm at driveway builds all my life ......built not bought lol
"Just two easy steps." Really? Add up the cost of the Eastwood tools and products, and the time it takes to complete a very unpleasant task, and you're north of the cost to media blast and powder coat.
1 all you really need is a drill with a wire brush, a 5in grinder with a wire brush, and a wire brush.... and and air compressor for paint, some people do this stuff regularly and thus already have all those things, btw powder coat is terrible it doesnt last long in hard conditions, also a cheap sandblaster and air compressor would work well (although very messy) and would probably cost less than $250 to buy everything !
Most likely, because the tool they used for getting the rust off just had multiple wire wheels it looks like, but you might need that thing with the needle like things to break rust, or just use heat and chip it off
Yea the angle grinder with wire wheel worked fine for me. Just wear gloves because that wire wheel throws off those little wires and after a while your hand will look like a pin cushion
@@nicholasdunbar3378 Yeah, if you use the grinder attachment, it will take off too much material. I suggested a wire-wheel attachment. Sand Blasting is the best method as you can get to the hard to reach spots that a grinder can't get to.
Do i also have to remove the paint that is on the chasis ? or just the rust removal is fine. It’s a 69 c10 i was using POR15 but i don’t like that i need to completely get it to bare shiny metal
Depends on what you're using to coat the chassis. Eastwood Rust Encapsulator is designed to layer right over paint that's already there. You just want to be sure that your original layer of paint has a good bond.
@@eastwoodco How do i know old paint is a good bond? Also one last thing 1/4 of my chassis is bare metal would i have to etch it so eastwood rust encapsulater can stick?
Instead of wasting time and money on brushing the frame, shouldve just save that power and money buying all of these tool and went ahead to sand blasting it
Matt....what does the rust encapsulator and internal frame spray actually do to rust scale? Does it coat and seal it water/air tight? Is there any chance of the rust flaking off with bumps and frame flex exposing the bare rusty surface underneath?
Flaky rust will need to be removed. Rust Encapsulator and Internal Frame Coating coats the area to prevent air and moisture from getting to the metal, which prevents further corrosion.
@@eastwoodco ok...I get that, but without sandblasting, how do you remove flakey rust from inside a box frame after using a power washer? I have two 1942 Ford G50E GPW Jeep frames that are essentially two C parts hot riveted and Huck bolted together to form a box frame. Short of cutting and drilling out those rivets....how can I remove rust from inside without sandblasting? I'm guessing the frame coating "sticks" together like a latex type of clingy coating?
I know Matt doesn't work for Eastwood anymore so I might ask this question on his Iron Trap Garage channel but if someone from Eastwood can answer my question then that'd be great. With the SCT tool...what happens with regards to kick back if you catch it on the frame and how do you get into those tight C channel frame sections to remove the rust before cleaning with a solvent and applying the rust encapsulator?
Would you be able to brush or roll on the chassis black top coat just like you can with the encapsulator? Probably not right? Also is that new encapsulator the equivalent of the silver stuff you sell?
I wanted to know the same thing. It didn't say if you could roll on or brush on the the ceramic chassis black. I think you can though...don't see why not. And can you do this same process to axles and drive shafts?
After painting your chassis coat it in bitumen I live in england where it rains 24/7 and the roads are covered in salt and my truck in my profile pic is 50 years old never been welded and doesnt need welding
Not necessarily the best method, but a good method to restore a frame that is completely disassembled from the vehicle and sitting outside on jack stands. The video is no value at all to someone who wants to restore, protect and extend the life of a modern vehicle that's assembled and running as an everyday driver.
Add me to the list of people who said "Blast it." Really, a needle scaler? I realize this video is for product presentation, but you just painted a turd.
We would always advocate for media blasting if you have the resources to do so, a lot of guys don't want to strip their car that far down, in that case this is a great option.
I like the idea of brushing it on. For those of us that don’t have time to do a frame off treatment. Just areas that we already have access too. Or just trying to get more years out of an old truck.
Man these videos are great. I am learning so much. Funny thing is I have been watching them looking at the tools and products going "oh that would be nice if I was rich". Then I finally went to the website and could kick myself. They are affordable. I just did my Bronco frame and after two days of scaling grinding sanding and wire wheel I needed to coat it. I spent more on a coating that i got local than i would have ordering from you guys. That is not that bad news it geys worse the stuff i bought looks like garbage two weeks later. So needless to say you will be seeing some orders from me real soon. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
The instructions and demonstration are well done. It's so easy when you have all kinds of equipment and a building in which to work. Unfortunately, I have only a few power and hand tools and a driveway. Air compressors and such are for rich people. LOL
True i build my cars wherever I'm at driveway builds all my life ......built not bought lol
"Just two easy steps." Really? Add up the cost of the Eastwood tools and products, and the time it takes to complete a very unpleasant task, and you're north of the cost to media blast and powder coat.
Yup..that's hella work...get it blasted
Probably cheaper to get a harbor freight sand blaster and do that right?
1 all you really need is a drill with a wire brush, a 5in grinder with a wire brush, and a wire brush.... and and air compressor for paint, some people do this stuff regularly and thus already have all those things, btw powder coat is terrible it doesnt last long in hard conditions, also a cheap sandblaster and air compressor would work well (although very messy) and would probably cost less than $250 to buy everything !
Just blast it and be done with it.
Powder coat would be rusty again in a year where I live
You can get the same results using an angle grinder with a wire wheel. No need for all those fancy tools.
Most likely, because the tool they used for getting the rust off just had multiple wire wheels it looks like, but you might need that thing with the needle like things to break rust, or just use heat and chip it off
Oh for sure, but which is faster?
Yea the angle grinder with wire wheel worked fine for me. Just wear gloves because that wire wheel throws off those little wires and after a while your hand will look like a pin cushion
Nah, an angle grinder takes off too much material making the frame too weak in spots, sand blasting is a better idea
@@nicholasdunbar3378 Yeah, if you use the grinder attachment, it will take off too much material. I suggested a wire-wheel attachment. Sand Blasting is the best method as you can get to the hard to reach spots that a grinder can't get to.
So satisfying to watch! Finishing up getting the body off my ‘63 C10 tomorrow. Then this step. I’m excited!
Wow 😮 that looks great!
It's all about the prep. Good video.
Absolutely!
IF YOU HAVE TO BUY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TOOLS POWER TOOLS IT SEEMS IT WOULD BE MORE REASONABLE AND BETTER TO HAVE THE FRAME WET BLASTED PROFESSIONALLY
Great job. Having the correct products definitely helps. Thank you for sharing.
Come on dude. You left parts bolted on to the frame? Poor practice to leave bolted on parts still bolted on.
Could you use a rust converter(phosphoric acid) before hand instead of getting to bare metal?
I wonder how much the dustless blasting guys you see on every motor trend channel show would charge for a job like this.
Very nice. What is the process if you want to smooth out the frame's rust pitting? Plastic body filler? The aluminum filler?
weld the pits up or weld in new sections, if its that bad you need to fix it best to fix it proper
What spay u use to clean the chassic before paint?
Didn't look like the internal frame coating coated very well. I hope it applies better than what I saw in this vid.
The best video i have ever seen
Nice work. The frame turned out great.
A good shot blaster would save a lot of time then dip the chassis in a acid bath, paint chassis inside and out last forever
Its a pain trying to get every nook and crannies on frames.😪
That will take a few hours. 😉
going to buy the Contour definitely looks nice
What type of paint you put straight to the chassis after you semblance the chassis?
How many gallons of the rust encapsulator did you use?
Thank you for the awesome video, it teaches a lot
Why not to sand blast it for better cleaning!!??
Angle grinder more versatile for all wire brush cleaning
Awesome, looking to repaint my frame on my silverado 2500
Right on! Send us some pics. @eastwoodco on Instagram.
Did you have to sand/prep in between the rust encapsulator and the chassis black?
How long between the two materials. Wet on wet or next day?
Thanks.
Rust Encapsulator can be top coated without the need to sand 6-8 hours after applying your last coat of Encapsulator.
Can you apply the rust encapsulator over paint? My frame has primer and rust oleum gloss black. Everything was taken down to bare metal before hand.
Am I shaving too much off with an angle grinder with polycarbonate pads?
Any recommendations if you wanted to smooth the rough pitted areas? If body filler, over encapsulator?
Do i also have to remove the paint that is on the chasis ? or just the rust removal is fine. It’s a 69 c10 i was using POR15 but i don’t like that i need to completely get it to bare shiny metal
Depends on what you're using to coat the chassis. Eastwood Rust Encapsulator is designed to layer right over paint that's already there. You just want to be sure that your original layer of paint has a good bond.
@@eastwoodco How do i know old paint is a good bond? Also one last thing 1/4 of my chassis is bare metal would i have to etch it so eastwood rust encapsulater can stick?
Instead of wasting time and money on brushing the frame, shouldve just save that power and money buying all of these tool and went ahead to sand blasting it
how comparable the can is it in term of resistance and duration vs gun epoxy treatment
It has passed over 1,000 hours of salt spray testing - so very durable.
Eastwood, Do you Guys have a How to Prep & Paint a Firewall Video? Thanks in Advance.
His 39 frame looks like my 98 frame from New England
At first I thought Paul Rudd was doing this video. Ant-Man vs the Rusty Frame.
After pressure washing an application of Muriatic Acid would have done better than mechanical rust removal.
Why not just sand blast the damn thing?
@@kadenshablow4327 some might not need to paint then if they don't do proper surface prep.
@@ssmarlee 1000 ways to skin a cat .No right or wrong way .
Do you needs to add an activator or reducer to spray it?
Matt....what does the rust encapsulator and internal frame spray actually do to rust scale? Does it coat and seal it water/air tight? Is there any chance of the rust flaking off with bumps and frame flex exposing the bare rusty surface underneath?
Flaky rust will need to be removed. Rust Encapsulator and Internal Frame Coating coats the area to prevent air and moisture from getting to the metal, which prevents further corrosion.
@@eastwoodco ok...I get that, but without sandblasting, how do you remove flakey rust from inside a box frame after using a power washer? I have two 1942 Ford G50E GPW Jeep frames that are essentially two C parts hot riveted and Huck bolted together to form a box frame. Short of cutting and drilling out those rivets....how can I remove rust from inside without sandblasting? I'm guessing the frame coating "sticks" together like a latex type of clingy coating?
I have a box frame as well, I’m curious what solutions Eastwood has...
Can you use this same process on axles and drive shafts?
Eastwood....any replies to using Rust Encapsulator inside box frames where flakey rust can't be accessed without paying for professional sandblasting?
can i paint over the ceramic chassis black with just plain rustolum paint
what would happen if someone uses the 2k product onto this bare steel on your vidio
Hey what PSI do you’s recommend when using a spray gun?
Looks like it needs to be replaced what is it like 22g in the pitted areas?
Why not to use sandblasting ?
When spraying on rust encapsulator do you mix thinner with it as well
No you should not need anything to thin it.
I used my grinder 25$
I know Matt doesn't work for Eastwood anymore so I might ask this question on his Iron Trap Garage channel but if someone from Eastwood can answer my question then that'd be great. With the SCT tool...what happens with regards to kick back if you catch it on the frame and how do you get into those tight C channel frame sections to remove the rust before cleaning with a solvent and applying the rust encapsulator?
no reply :(
What did they use at 3:45 to clean the frame?
Pre-Painting Prep
www.eastwood.com/ew-pre-painting-prep-aerosol-11oz.html
How much psi is needed to apply the encapsulator to the frame thru the spray gun?
26 psi
Is there ever scale inside the frame?
Would you be able to brush or roll on the chassis black top coat just like you can with the encapsulator? Probably not right? Also is that new encapsulator the equivalent of the silver stuff you sell?
I wanted to know the same thing. It didn't say if you could roll on or brush on the the ceramic chassis black. I think you can though...don't see why not. And can you do this same process to axles and drive shafts?
Only one coat is needed?
Is stuff better than chassis saver?
No sand blasting?
Damn I'm silly but what tool head is that haha in the first part .I need one
So is my only option for the 2k ceramic to spray it on with a paint gun?
I was hoping for an aerosol spray
What’s a good price to get this done?
I bet that won't last long- I would have used wholwax... and kept it going each year.
its great that hes wearing a particle mask. nothing better than a good lining of rust dust in the lungs
Why don't manufacturers do this to the frame in the first place?...
Because they're in the business of selling cars not making them last forever.
I would have dipped it.
really long time like 3 years in quebec
After painting your chassis coat it in bitumen I live in england where it rains 24/7 and the roads are covered in salt and my truck in my profile pic is 50 years old never been welded and doesnt need welding
Easier to just sand blast the frame to get down to bare metal.
I think I would rather have it sand blasted or acid dipped
Not necessarily the best method, but a good method to restore a frame that is completely disassembled from the vehicle and sitting outside on jack stands. The video is no value at all to someone who wants to restore, protect and extend the life of a modern vehicle that's assembled and running as an everyday driver.
Add me to the list of people who said "Blast it." Really, a needle scaler?
I realize this video is for product presentation, but you just painted a turd.
those old frames are fine for staying original and the car will just sit there.. but def too weak and flimsy for a hot rod
Realize what your time is worth and get it sandblasted.
We would always advocate for media blasting if you have the resources to do so, a lot of guys don't want to strip their car that far down, in that case this is a great option.
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What are you using the clean the frame before the paint?
Always use PRE Paint prep, acetone, or other cleaning agents to remove ALL the dirt and grime as best as possible, before applying a coating.