88 and 98 series mean a lot to me since I'm from Wuhan. As a part of modernization movement propsed by some governors in Qing China due to our defeat in Opium Wars, Hubei-Canton governor Zhang Zhidong ordered to build an iron production facility and an arsenal (completed in 1894) which were located in Hanyang, the southwest part of Wuhan. The rifles produced in Hanyang Arsenal were therefore nicknamed "Hanyang-Made" and it kept being produced in multiple facilities until the foundation of People's Republic of China. The army in Wuhan (Wuchang + Hankou + Hanyang) therefore became the most modernized army force in Qing China, which then played a vital role in Qing's overthrow (we say "The first gunshot of 1911 Revolution took place in Wuchang"). During Republic of China era, Hanyang Arsenal became Wuhan Arsenal, and started replicating Bergmann MG15, Lewis gun, Maxim gun, Browning M1917, Mauser C96, some grenade launchers and TNT. When Japan conquered Wuhan in 1938, the entire arsenal, like many other factories in Wuhan (it was called Chicago of the East once) was taken down and transported to Hunan region. After WWII, Wuhan Arsenal was rebuilt and mainly produced grenades, RPGs, flare guns and explosives. But due to the civil war most of the facilities were soon relocated to Taiwan (which was just liberated from Japanese and far from Communist's reach). After the liberation of Wuhan (or whatever Americans would call) it became a logistic & mechanical maintenance unit. The original Hanyang Arsenal was turned into a museum to tribute Zhang Zhidong and his great contribution to Wuhan's modernization in both technology and Wuhan people's mindset, and certainly the history of this country.
Love this kind of content. The little known historical context just adds to the interest of a rifle. My collection is mainly made up of "cheaper" rifles that have an interesting story to tell rather than the most pristine generic example. For example rather than a WWII german luger with perfect finish, I have a wwi frame, s42 toggle luger with Finnish army markings. Way more interesting to me than a "collector grade" luger that would have been 5-6x the cost.
I'm somewhat the same with my collecting. My only mauser is a Israeli mauser. It's a Czech receiver, German furniture, Israeli 7.62 NATO barrel, and eventually had its Israeli markings scrubbed and was sold to some waring country under embargo like Nicaragua.
The milsurp videos are always great. Adding that history to great, fun rifles to shoot. Even better if you're able to mix a bit of shooting in with them.
Picked one of these up over the weekend (A birthday gift to myself... being an adult is so much fun....) And the gun has quite the odd history... NEVER buy a gun for the "Story" but it looks like it went from being an arsenal gun, to a militia, to a north korean capture, to being sent back to china... and eventually imported. Classic Firearms would rate it as 98% A+ Grade, but I would give it a C++/B--, intact enough to be safe, blued enough to look decent, not rusted all to hell but definitely not a show pony!
I've wanted for years to get an Arisaka in 7.62x39. You posted a video of one that you own. Can you do another video about it's history, markings, etc? Thanks! I really like your channel.
Heyo so I recently bought a Standard Modell, model 1933 mauser recently. I got it because it had the Mauser banner on top of the receiver. It had "Standard Modell" on the siderail. It also has these cool looking import/export markings. "B, U, G, H" with each letter having a crown over it. These markings were stamped on the side of the receiver by the serial number, "B40XXX" (X's hiding the actual serial number) . It also has a "Ss" marking on top of the barrel where it meets the receiver. And on the very under side of the it says "7.9", 8mm, and I was wondering if I could get ANY more info about these markings and about the rifle in general. I like to know the story behind the gun. So any info is appreciated. I'm asking pretty much everywhere I can for information.
Very nice video and great rifle btw. It kind of makes sense that the Nationalists used German rifles since some Nationalist units were trained and organized to German, not Chinese standards. Chiang Kai Shek's son, Chiang Wei Kuo was actually trained and served in the Wehrmacht.
Great video and great information disseminated, but keep in mind that the W in "Waffenampt" is pronounced like the English V. Thanks for making this video!
Very good, where I could get one of these “Henan Militia rifle”? It seems they came to US as a batch, a combination of Mauser, Hanyang, and Chiangkaishe.
A Chinese Mauser is the last whole in my WW2 collection that I need to fill. I’ve not bought any because of the poor condition they are usually in. I’m trying to wait for the right one.
The K98K was also copied by the Chinese. They called it the Chiang Kai Shek rifle. During the Nationalist era the Chinese Army was trained by the German Military Mission. When the first half of the Civil War broke out, there were many Warlord factions that had allied itself to the Nationalist Army. I think that is where the militia markings come from. Chiang Kai Shek was grateful to the Germans that one of his sons went to Germany and attend the military academy there and became an officer. He served in a Panzer regiment and took part in the Annexation of Czechoslovakia.
@@ragingjaguarknight86 That is standard for all soldiers to qualify with their basic issue weapons as individual soldiers. The other Schutzenschnur for Panzer troops was qualifying as a crew with their tanks in gunnery. On the braided rope was a medallion of a tank. The commander had to be proficient in commanding the tank with proper standard firing orders, scanning targets, commands to the driver, estimation of range and laying the gunner on to target. The gunner had to be accurate, the loader loaded quickly, the driver drove under the direction of the commander, the bow gunner and radio operator had to engage targets with the bow gun and hit. The entire crew was awarded based on performance of how quickly, accurately the tank engaged all targets, and how well it performed under the direction of their tank commander. The tank is a weapon system.
I really appreciate your videos because they are quite unique and different from what other people do. Unfortunately, I don't have a good explanation for why your channel does not reach a wider audience (yet?).
@@MilsurpWorld I live in Colorado, next to a shop called old steel. He has hundreds of these rifles. I got to hand select a few of them. They were all in horrible shape. Bores rifling nearly completely shot out
@@MilsurpWorld My friends Grandfather was one of the high officials of the KMT, and he was executed by the communists. I think that’s what happened to all the officers that stayed, but I could be wrong
I have a wz 29 polish mauser carbine made in 1938 at the radom factory...good shooting gun...this gun somehow ended up in China and was taken into service by the Chinese military...a good friend of mine was a firearms importer back in the late 80s and he sold it to me for 100 dollars...these guns are EXTREMELY rare in the u.s....im lucky to own it...
Chiang Kai-shek sent his wife to tour the Mauser factory and she tried to get them to make rifles for China, but was told that all the production capacity was used up by German army orders. They then finally came to the part of the factory that Mauser stored the parts that were still serviceable but rejected by German army inspectors and she asked if these parts could be made into rifles and Mauser said yes to that question. That's how China got K98ks. They're just made from the rejects of Germany's extremely high standards. Even less commonly known than the K98ks made for China, is the ones ordered by Japan. Unfortunately there is no way to distinguish between Japanese and German rifles as Japan ordered all to be made exactly as German army ones and they specifically wrote that into their order because they know that China ordered substandard rifles.
Germany seemed to have a habit of selling arms to the invaded countries of their soon to be allies. They also sold weapons and munitions to Ethiopia when Italy invaded them in the 1930's
Very cool. It's amazing how many Mausers were built and sent around the world. I have a friend that has a classic Mauser has 1924 on the receiver he thinks it's a 7 mm. He inherited it from his father it's in excellent condition he's a longtime friend and he's on disability and he has many rifles that he's trying to sell. I'm trying to identify exactly what this Mauser is and what the value is. Would you mind helping? I could send you pictures. I have pictures of the crest and some numbers from the side of the receiver. I would appreciate your advice . Thank you
@@MilsurpWorld I found some yugos and the crest doesn't match. It has a crown on top with another crown upper middle surrounded by something that resemble wings? With 1924 below crest. Full stock sling swivels on bottom not side. Does that give you enough information I good email pictures. Thanks
I figured it out it is definitely a Serbian M24 Mauser . The crest and everything matches. So what is a ballpark on the value? Not sure about the throat or the barrel but the outside I would give it a solid 7 out of 10 with beautiful tiger-striped Walnut. It's actually looks pretty excellent the only reason I'm not saying it's higher is because I'm not a professional. there's probably things that I'm missing that you would notice. Let me know what you think? Thank you
Picked up a Chinese contract for $175 a few years ago, really rough shape but couldn't pass it for the price, cheap replicas of k98k's are more expensive than it
Quick question: To make a long story short great grandfather served ww2-korea signal corps (earned bronze star crossing the rhine) He brought home a luger and traded it to a gunsmith to sporter a kar 98 for him. The kar 98 is a danzig 1913 there is another stamp that says "1920" and above that it says "7,9" I beleive this gun is a kar 98 AZ? This gun can shoot the original 7.92 right? Not the dumbed down fake american "8mm mauser"? Just found your channel but i'll be watching lots of your videos. Inherited the kar and a no.4 mk1 dated 1942 with arrows all over it.
@@MilsurpWorld Thanks so much! Do you have any recommendations? Or do you pack your own? I'm happy it will shoot the real deal 8mm need to find a good name or surplus! I'm new to the ww2 firearms!
@@MilsurpWorld I just want the real 7.92 i've been told everything listed as "8mm" in the USA is not actual 8mm because of potential mix ups with older versions. yugo surplus it is. yeah real unfortunate he had it sporterized but he did it in '49 and it's a hell of a deer rifle as it is now. The enfield is 100% untouched original though!
The Japanese got a hold of a K98 Mauser and said, We can make this even stronger and more accurate Which was how the Arisaka mod 99 7.7x58mm was born which was both stronger and more accurate than the K98 8mm Mauser
@@sirboomsalot4902Yep and then they develop the mod 99 to take its place for a longer range weapon that shot heavier bullets and it became the strongest action in the world at that time People did not believe me when I said that for many years then IV8888 proved it beyond any doubts in this video ruclips.net/video/pGwQwXKMuNQ/видео.html Do even half of what he did with that Arisaka with a K98 and it would blow it to smithereens very fast
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88 and 98 series mean a lot to me since I'm from Wuhan.
As a part of modernization movement propsed by some governors in Qing China due to our defeat in Opium Wars, Hubei-Canton governor Zhang Zhidong ordered to build an iron production facility and an arsenal (completed in 1894) which were located in Hanyang, the southwest part of Wuhan.
The rifles produced in Hanyang Arsenal were therefore nicknamed "Hanyang-Made" and it kept being produced in multiple facilities until the foundation of People's Republic of China.
The army in Wuhan (Wuchang + Hankou + Hanyang) therefore became the most modernized army force in Qing China, which then played a vital role in Qing's overthrow (we say "The first gunshot of 1911 Revolution took place in Wuchang").
During Republic of China era, Hanyang Arsenal became Wuhan Arsenal, and started replicating Bergmann MG15, Lewis gun, Maxim gun, Browning M1917, Mauser C96, some grenade launchers and TNT. When Japan conquered Wuhan in 1938, the entire arsenal, like many other factories in Wuhan (it was called Chicago of the East once) was taken down and transported to Hunan region.
After WWII, Wuhan Arsenal was rebuilt and mainly produced grenades, RPGs, flare guns and explosives. But due to the civil war most of the facilities were soon relocated to Taiwan (which was just liberated from Japanese and far from Communist's reach).
After the liberation of Wuhan (or whatever Americans would call) it became a logistic & mechanical maintenance unit.
The original Hanyang Arsenal was turned into a museum to tribute Zhang Zhidong and his great contribution to Wuhan's modernization in both technology and Wuhan people's mindset, and certainly the history of this country.
Love this kind of content. The little known historical context just adds to the interest of a rifle. My collection is mainly made up of "cheaper" rifles that have an interesting story to tell rather than the most pristine generic example. For example rather than a WWII german luger with perfect finish, I have a wwi frame, s42 toggle luger with Finnish army markings. Way more interesting to me than a "collector grade" luger that would have been 5-6x the cost.
That's a good way to look at it.
I'm somewhat the same with my collecting. My only mauser is a Israeli mauser. It's a Czech receiver, German furniture, Israeli 7.62 NATO barrel, and eventually had its Israeli markings scrubbed and was sold to some waring country under embargo like Nicaragua.
@@nathanphillips3251 I've got one these in much better shape, that misidentified as japanese, video on my channel
Mauserwerks sold "Standard" Mausers to at least 11 countries, in rifle, short rifle & carbine versions. What a collector's treasure hunt.
The milsurp videos are always great. Adding that history to great, fun rifles to shoot. Even better if you're able to mix a bit of shooting in with them.
Love this channel - gun videos with a bit of history
lol is see you on all his videos is the Sturmgewehr yours??? sexy
Picked one of these up over the weekend (A birthday gift to myself... being an adult is so much fun....) And the gun has quite the odd history... NEVER buy a gun for the "Story" but it looks like it went from being an arsenal gun, to a militia, to a north korean capture, to being sent back to china... and eventually imported. Classic Firearms would rate it as 98% A+ Grade, but I would give it a C++/B--, intact enough to be safe, blued enough to look decent, not rusted all to hell but definitely not a show pony!
Love these kind of videos. Can we please see more stuff on the Arisaka type rifles? Thanks.
I've wanted for years to get an Arisaka in 7.62x39. You posted a video of one that you own. Can you do another video about it's history, markings, etc? Thanks! I really like your channel.
Saw a Type 38 for sale at GB. Forgot to bid and when I checked, it was sold for $200! Damn!!!
Hey thanks for the follow up!
Heyo so I recently bought a Standard Modell, model 1933 mauser recently. I got it because it had the Mauser banner on top of the receiver. It had "Standard Modell" on the siderail. It also has these cool looking import/export markings. "B, U, G, H" with each letter having a crown over it. These markings were stamped on the side of the receiver by the serial number, "B40XXX" (X's hiding the actual serial number) . It also has a "Ss" marking on top of the barrel where it meets the receiver. And on the very under side of the it says "7.9", 8mm, and I was wondering if I could get ANY more info about these markings and about the rifle in general. I like to know the story behind the gun. So any info is appreciated. I'm asking pretty much everywhere I can for information.
Great video and would like to see more.Thanks.
I got one. It’s my only Mauser. Found it at a gun show in south Texas.
Very nice video and great rifle btw. It kind of makes sense that the Nationalists used German rifles since some Nationalist units were trained and organized to German, not Chinese standards. Chiang Kai Shek's son, Chiang Wei Kuo was actually trained and served in the Wehrmacht.
Cool video 👍
Great video and great information disseminated, but keep in mind that the W in "Waffenampt" is pronounced like the English V. Thanks for making this video!
I have a banner Mauser M98S with Nationalist markings, better shape than the example here. Less recoil than what you might think and very accurate.
Very good, where I could get one of these “Henan Militia rifle”? It seems they came to US as a batch, a combination of Mauser, Hanyang, and Chiangkaishe.
A Chinese Mauser is the last whole in my WW2 collection that I need to fill. I’ve not bought any because of the poor condition they are usually in. I’m trying to wait for the right one.
Those sill be worth much more than K98s if in good condition
The K98K was also copied by the Chinese. They called it the Chiang Kai Shek rifle. During the Nationalist era the Chinese Army was trained by the German Military Mission. When the first half of the Civil War broke out, there were many Warlord factions that had allied itself to the Nationalist Army. I think that is where the militia markings come from. Chiang Kai Shek was grateful to the Germans that one of his sons went to Germany and attend the military academy there and became an officer. He served in a Panzer regiment and took part in the Annexation of Czechoslovakia.
Very true. He partook in Gebirgsjager training as well. ^_^
@@ragingjaguarknight86 I didn't know that. He did it as part of his infantry branch training as cadet officer most likely.
@@reddevilparatrooper He had the Schützenschnur award as well.
@@ragingjaguarknight86 That is standard for all soldiers to qualify with their basic issue weapons as individual soldiers. The other Schutzenschnur for Panzer troops was qualifying as a crew with their tanks in gunnery. On the braided rope was a medallion of a tank. The commander had to be proficient in commanding the tank with proper standard firing orders, scanning targets, commands to the driver, estimation of range and laying the gunner on to target. The gunner had to be accurate, the loader loaded quickly, the driver drove under the direction of the commander, the bow gunner and radio operator had to engage targets with the bow gun and hit. The entire crew was awarded based on performance of how quickly, accurately the tank engaged all targets, and how well it performed under the direction of their tank commander. The tank is a weapon system.
@@reddevilparatrooper Awesome! ^_^
Can you tell the process of Yugoslavia captured kar98k
I really appreciate your videos because they are quite unique and different from what other people do. Unfortunately, I don't have a good explanation for why your channel does not reach a wider audience (yet?).
How did you get a pristine Chinese mauser? Theres gotta be a surplus batch somewhere.
I definitely wouldn't call this one pristine.
Milsurp World where can buy one of these. It looks very rare.
@@MilsurpWorld I live in Colorado, next to a shop called old steel. He has hundreds of these rifles. I got to hand select a few of them. They were all in horrible shape. Bores rifling nearly completely shot out
What kind of shooters are they? Are the barrels shot and need replacing? Do they have good accuracy?
Where can you acquire one in this good condition?
My grandfather was fighting the Japanese in Shanghai and lived to continue fighting for the Nationalists during the resume of the civil war.
That's some really cool family history. Afterwards, did he go to Taiwan or stay on the mainland?
He went to Taiwan
@@MilsurpWorld My friends Grandfather was one of the high officials of the KMT, and he was executed by the communists. I think that’s what happened to all the officers that stayed, but I could be wrong
@@Max-rk1oy it doesn’t make any sense how would he be executed if you claimed that he went to Taiwan?
@@codyshi4743 umm buddy, friends grandfather read it again
Have you ever seen any of the Japanese contract rifles?
Good video, do some more arisaka videos
Could you do a video on polish mausers
Only semi-Polish Mauser I have is the G29/40 that I already made a video on.
I have a wz 29 polish mauser carbine made in 1938 at the radom factory...good shooting gun...this gun somehow ended up in China and was taken into service by the Chinese military...a good friend of mine was a firearms importer back in the late 80s and he sold it to me for 100 dollars...these guns are EXTREMELY rare in the u.s....im lucky to own it...
Chiang Kai-shek sent his wife to tour the Mauser factory and she tried to get them to make rifles for China, but was told that all the production capacity was used up by German army orders. They then finally came to the part of the factory that Mauser stored the parts that were still serviceable but rejected by German army inspectors and she asked if these parts could be made into rifles and Mauser said yes to that question. That's how China got K98ks. They're just made from the rejects of Germany's extremely high standards.
Even less commonly known than the K98ks made for China, is the ones ordered by Japan. Unfortunately there is no way to distinguish between Japanese and German rifles as Japan ordered all to be made exactly as German army ones and they specifically wrote that into their order because they know that China ordered substandard rifles.
Germany seemed to have a habit of selling arms to the invaded countries of their soon to be allies.
They also sold weapons and munitions to Ethiopia when Italy invaded them in the 1930's
Well it has to do with the radical change of there foreign policy after Hitler gets into power.
I have a Chinese type 24 Mauser that’s cock on close. I have never seen another one like that. They were all cock on open.
Very cool. It's amazing how many Mausers were built and sent around the world. I have a friend that has a classic Mauser has 1924 on the receiver he thinks it's a 7 mm. He inherited it from his father it's in excellent condition he's a longtime friend and he's on disability and he has many rifles that he's trying to sell. I'm trying to identify exactly what this Mauser is and what the value is. Would you mind helping? I could send you pictures. I have pictures of the crest and some numbers from the side of the receiver. I would appreciate your advice . Thank you
It sounds like a Yugo 1924 Mauser. Unfortunately they don't bring much compared to other Mauser variants (if that's what it is).
@@MilsurpWorld I found some yugos and the crest doesn't match. It has a crown on top with another crown upper middle surrounded by something that resemble wings? With 1924 below crest. Full stock sling swivels on bottom not side. Does that give you enough information I good email pictures. Thanks
@@MilsurpWorld Also when I googled the crest imagine it comes back German or Serbian but nothing that I could read a really verify.
I figured it out it is definitely a Serbian M24 Mauser . The crest and everything matches. So what is a ballpark on the value? Not sure about the throat or the barrel but the outside I would give it a solid 7 out of 10 with beautiful tiger-striped Walnut. It's actually looks pretty excellent the only reason I'm not saying it's higher is because I'm not a professional. there's probably things that I'm missing that you would notice. Let me know what you think? Thank you
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That rifle is like in Chinese movie phim Hunter 2005
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Picked up a Chinese contract for $175 a few years ago, really rough shape but couldn't pass it for the price, cheap replicas of k98k's are more expensive than it
Where did you get it?
These may be worth more than a k98 dude to its rare
@@skylinez4793 I got it at a local gunshop, when I say it's in rough shape I mean it has next to no rifling and was poorly "restored".
Quick question: To make a long story short great grandfather served ww2-korea signal corps (earned bronze star crossing the rhine) He brought home a luger and traded it to a gunsmith to sporter a kar 98 for him. The kar 98 is a danzig 1913 there is another stamp that says "1920" and above that it says "7,9" I beleive this gun is a kar 98 AZ? This gun can shoot the original 7.92 right? Not the dumbed down fake american "8mm mauser"? Just found your channel but i'll be watching lots of your videos. Inherited the kar and a no.4 mk1 dated 1942 with arrows all over it.
Sounds like a K98AZ. The 1920 is the acceptance mark into the Weimar inventory. It'll shoot any 8mm Mauser out there.
@@MilsurpWorld Thanks so much! Do you have any recommendations? Or do you pack your own? I'm happy it will shoot the real deal 8mm need to find a good name or surplus! I'm new to the ww2 firearms!
I mostly shoot Yugo surplus. I wouldn't be too picky with a sporterized K98, just buy whatever is cheapest and send it.
@@MilsurpWorld I just want the real 7.92 i've been told everything listed as "8mm" in the USA is not actual 8mm because of potential mix ups with older versions. yugo surplus it is. yeah real unfortunate he had it sporterized but he did it in '49 and it's a hell of a deer rifle as it is now. The enfield is 100% untouched original though!
Chiang Kai Shek wanted to ask Americans to sell them weapons too but was rejected.
The Japanese got a hold of a K98 Mauser and said, We can make this even stronger and more accurate
Which was how the Arisaka mod 99 7.7x58mm was born which was both stronger and more accurate than the K98 8mm Mauser
Wasn’t it the Type 38 that was originally based on the Mauser, and then the Type 99 was an upgraded 38?
@@sirboomsalot4902Yep and then they develop the mod 99 to take its place for a longer range weapon that shot heavier bullets and it became the strongest action in the world at that time
People did not believe me when I said that for many years then IV8888 proved it beyond any doubts in this video
ruclips.net/video/pGwQwXKMuNQ/видео.html
Do even half of what he did with that Arisaka with a K98 and it would blow it to smithereens very fast
Wrong! The Type 99 was developed from the Type 38, which was made in 1905, long before the Kar98k.