Mauser K98k VS Springfield 1903
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- In this video I run through the pros, cons, and differences between the American Springfield 1903 and the German Mauser K98k. Both rifles are excellent bolt actions but in my opinion one holds a slight edge to the other.
Развлечения
That 3rd lug on the 1903 was tested with it being the only lug on the bolt. It survived 2,000 shots without failing, so it too is quite sturdy, though it might not seem like it.
Excellent video as always. But, I think a better comparison will be the K98K vs 1903A3, and the Gew98 vs 1903. I have a Smith Corona 1903A3 and a BYF 43 K98, and I wish that someday I can buy a 1903 and a Gew98. BUT, I have a Winchester 1917 and I like it more than the 1903A3 and the K98. I just think the 1917 is a better looking rifle, feels stronger, although it doesn't have windage adjustment. Anyway, Mausers and Lee Enfield's originals and variants are very cool! Thanks again for an excellent video! You should have MANY more subscribers!
Thanks!
I'll take that M1917 off your hands. haha
Keep up the good work, very insightful and good presentation!
Love your comparison videos, all of them actually. I've a preference for my K98 as well; action is well engineered, precisely machine and smooth as silk. I'd love to see you do a companion video comparing these two on the shooting range (you may have already done that and I just missed it) because no matter how they compare side by side, it's how they shoot that counts. Thanks for the videos!
Scott Garrett Thanks!
It’s interesting how these two are related, they both have the same bolt design.
Springfield armory copied the bolt design of the original Mauser.
And the US had to pay royalties to mauser due to it was copied
MrPanzerCat correct!
I guess they didn’t think that would happen
But how
M1903 was made in 1903
11red monster what do you mean?
Thank you so much for this excellent presentation and comparison.
Thanks for explaining the magazine cut-off! I never understood that on Krag videos for example. Never knew why there would be such a thing. Know it makes perfect sense...
Thanks you, that is a really informative presentation
You've doing a Lord' work here!
Great video, you nailed it. I watched it a couple of times, once just for your very cool and laid back dog. One thing you might want to know about the Springfield (I have one): at this age, a few of the stocks may crack in the wrist when you shoot them, especially if they've been dried out. The entire force of firing slams the action on a fairly thin part of the stock. This is why the stocks have those through-bolts, to spread out the recoil force. The laminated Mauser stocks are much stronger, and I've never heard of them cracking. Anyway, great rifles, great dog.
Thanks, he is a great dog.
Awesome video, and I love your dog!
Very informative video. The Springfield is an awfully nice rifle, but given that the last one I held was priced over $1000 CDN, the Mauser 98s that I picked up years ago for $100-$350 were a far better deal. The nicer milsurps like the K31, Swedish Mausers, K98s, etc. all look to be good investments over the long term.
Very detailed and informative video, really enjoyed it. Like you said the Springfield is a copy of the Mauser, that’s why I bought a Yugoslavian M-48 10 years ago and have never regretted it. Keep up the great work.
Interesting and informative, especially regarding the sights.
One thing I was surprised you didn't mention when talking about the bolts being similar was the *big* difference between the two.
The internal slotted collar on the Mauser with a flat breech where the barrel abutted, which is what made it so easy to re-barrel, and the "coned breech" on the Springfield, which made it much more labor intensive with the extractor cut-out, and in no way any better.
Winchester followed suit with the coned breech in the model 54, and then the refined 70.
love your caviler
The 30.06 chamber length made it great for wildcatting--25.06, 270, 30.06, 35 Whelen.
Thank you!
It has been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and this principle was on display in the era of the Spanish American War of 1898. When future U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt and his Rough Riders faced the Spanish regulars at San Juan Heights, Roosevelt was favorably impressed with the range, power and accuracy of the Mauser 7x57 M1895 bolt-action rifles in the hands of the defenders, who - although they lost the battle - extracted a fearsome price in blood for the U.S. victory. One of T.R.'s first acts as President, then, was to commission a Mauser-style rifle for the U.S. military. What ultimately became the Springfield M1903 rifle, first in 30-03, then the soon-to-be famous 30-06. Critics deride the rifle as being a "copy" of the Mauser, to such a degree that the U.S. government ultimately paid patent-infringement royalties to Germany. These critics miss the point; the Mauser pattern bolt-action was (and remains today) the finest-yet developed - strong, accurate, adaptable, and reasonably economical. Even today, most commercial and custom gun-makers of fine bolt-actions base their designs upon the well-proven Mauser design, including Winchester, Remington, Ruger, Sako, Kimber, and many others. As far as the military rifles are concerned, both the Mauser variants and the Springfield M1903 are fine rifles; which of them one chooses often boils down to personal preference. This writer would chose the M1903 everyday and twice on Sunday, chiefly due to its superior OEM/factory iron sights and trigger, as well as its use of the superb 30-06 cartridge. If I was to choose a Mauser, it would likely be one chambered in 7x57, such as one of the fine South American contract rifles, or in 6.5x55 made by the Swedes. These, too, are excellent rifles.
An easy way to decock the rifle is to put the bolt in the up position before lock and hold the trigger while simultaneously pushing it down.
Great job
Thanks buddy.
🔫 A comparison between the 1903 Springfield and the Mauser k98k rifles, focusing on their similarities and differences.
00:00
Comparison of Springfield and Mauser k98k rifles
00:00
Similarities in weight, length, and handling characteristics
00:34
Barrel length and weight comparison
00:41
Comparison of 30-06 and 8mm Mauser calibers
01:13
Comparison of stripper clips and sights
01:43
Differences in rear sights of Springfield and Mauser k98k
02:10
Detailed explanation of Springfield 1903 rear sight
02:51
🎯 The video compares the sights, safety features, and other aspects of the Springfield and Mauser rifles.
03:27
Comparison of sight precision and ease of pick up
03:27
Preference for sights on the Mauser rifle
03:35
Magazine cut off feature on the Springfield
04:31
Enlarged cocking piece on the Springfield for decocking and light primer strikes
05:06
Similar flag safeties on both rifles
05:41
Difference in bolt locking up on safety feature
06:22
Ease of use for someone unfamiliar with the rifle's safety features
06:29
🔫 The video compares disassembling the Springfield 1903 and the Mauserk98 K, focusing on the bolt and extractor differences.
06:42
Comparison of rear mounted aperture sight on Springfield 1903 and Mauserk98 K
06:42
Preference for aperture sights
06:53
Challenges with flip up sight on Springfield 1903
07:08
Disassembling process differences between Mauser and Springfield
07:33
Comparison of bolt features and disassembly process
08:48
Comparison of extractor strength between Springfield and Mauser
09:08
Difference in location of lugs on the Mauser and Springfield bolts
09:27
🔧 The video compares the Springfield and Mauser bolts, highlighting their similarities and differences.
10:07
Comparison of bolt mechanisms and lugs
10:07
Difference in disassembly process between the two bolts
11:06
Importance of safety position for disassembly
11:54
Comparison of bolt construction and safety features
12:34
Discussion on gas shield for safety
13:00
Similarity between Springfield and Mauser bolts
13:09
🔫 The video compares the features of Mauser k98k and Springfield 1903 rifles, with a slight preference for the k98k.
13:35
Comparison of Mauser k98k and Springfield 1903 rifles
13:35
Preference for the semi pistol grip stock and disassembly disk of Mauser k98k
13:44
Preference for laminated wood and cupped buttplate of Mauser k98k
14:06
Advantages of Mauser k98k sights, cleaning rod, and bayonet attachment
14:30
Preference for side mounted sling of Mauser k98k for comfort
14:54
Attempt to be unbiased in the comparison
15:16
Appreciation for the Springfield 1903 a3 rifle
15:31
🎯 The video compares the sights of the Springfield and Mauser rifles, highlighting the differences in precision and ease of use for target shooting and quick shots.
03:01
The Springfield rifle has a very small and adjustable peep sight, making it more precise for target shooting.
The Mauser rifle has a larger Barleycorn style sight, which is easier to pick up for quick shots.
The Mauser's sights make it easier to pick up for quick shots, while the Springfield's sights offer more precision for target shooting.
🔫 The video discusses the features and preferences of the Springfield 1903 rifle.
06:29
The rifle has a safety feature with 'ready' and 'safe' indicators for user convenience.
The rear mounted aperture sight of the Springfield 1903 is preferred over the standard 1903 and Mauser k98 K sights.
The flip up sight of the rifle is visually appealing, but in practice, it is not preferred for better sight picture.
🔧 Comparison of Mauser and Springfield bolt systems, focusing on the third lug and its engagement with the receiver bridge.
09:19
Comparison of Mauser and Springfield bolt systems
Description of the third lug on the Mauser bolt system
Explanation of the third lug engagement on the Springfield bolt system
🔫 Comparison of Mauser K98 and Springfield 1903 rifles, with preference for the Mauser due to its features.
12:44
Comparison of Mauser K98 and Springfield 1903 rifles
Personal preference for the Mauser K98 due to its features
Preference for the Mauser's semi-pistol grip stock and disassembly disk
Summarized by Tammy.AI
My rear sight has a lot of horizontal play , an ideas ?
thank you for mentioning the K98 sling. Why did the US stick to their bottom-mounted slings until the M16? Side mounted slings are a big plus if you have to carry the rifle a long way.
Ignorant fuck, we’ve used the side mount sling on our M1 carbine long time ago
Angery Fallout Vault Boy.
@@mikehenrybell2398 dude what is your problem
@@ryanvega9308 Idk you tell me
The U. S. stuck with the bottom mounted sling because they were using the sling while shooting prone and sitting. That's tough to do well with the side mounted. It was just another feature like the sights that show how the 1903 was more oriented toward target shooting than the 98.
How about doing a video of milsurp shotguns? Like a Winchester 1897, Winchester Model 12, Remington Model 10, Remington Model 11, Browning Auto 5, etc... Or the commercial versions... I bought a 1897 a few weeks ago and I hope to buy a few pump shotguns (commercial) made during WWI and WWII. Next in my list is a Winchester Model 12 or an Ithaca 37.
Hey NFGG due to the magazine cut-off on the 1903... can you load 5 rounds from a stripper clip, flip on the cutoff & then load 1 loose round? Or is it 5 rounds max?
It's 5 plus 1. You can do as you said with the magazine cutoff or just load the 6th round as I show in my Mauser Tips and Tricks video.
Do you have a video comparing the Kar98, 1903 and Mosin?
If you only knew the real defects of the springfield design, caused by the effort of the US to avoid paying royalty, you'd have a different tune.
Do tell.
@Infectious Legume accurate
@GastonGross Except more of the Enfield pattern rifles were used than Springfields IIRC.
There is a notch in the Springfield safety. You can see it as an indentation for the little ball that is under the safety latch that runs in the grove along the surface that the latch runs along.
I like the K98K better as well.
How does the Marine corp front sight blade effect the use of the 1903 rear sight? I'd like to know what the ranges are for my rifle.
Lovely Grey there’s no difference in the type of front sight blades, not between models and certainly not between branches. Only in the front sight base, which is different between the ‘03 and the ‘03-A3. It affects nothing. He most likely mixed his terms and said front sight instead of rear as the rear sight on the ‘03-A3 has a 100 yard minimum zero and the ‘03 has a 300 yard zero for the battle sight. The rear sight on the A3 is mounted on the rear “receiver bridge” as shown in the picture in the video, and is higher up because of it. The M1903’s rear sight as shown in the video is lower and mounted on a collar that is press fit onto the barrel.
@Lovely Grey: If you have a M1903 rather than a M1903A3 (which has a ramp-style aperture rear sight), with the ladder-type rear sights with BSZ notch, then the notch is generally good for a battle-sight zero of about 545-550 yards. Which is equivalent to about 11.5 inches high at 100 yards. Why so distant a battle-sight zero? At that time, it was thought that high-velocity bot-action rifle smokeless powder cartridges would revolutionize land warfare to such degree that infantry engagements would take place mostly at extended ranges. For close-in use, the trooper was taught to hold low, depending on the distance, or dial in a more-precise setting on his rear sight assembly. The Model 1905 sight - a technological marvel for the time - gave the user a lot of options as to how to sight in his target, including the ability to zero at a more-conventional 100 or 200 yards. Front sight blades were made in a variety of heights, and you may have to try swapping them out to get one that works for your rifle and load. If it is too tall, you can carefully file it down, or pay a gunsmith to do it. If the blade is too short for POA to equal POI at your specified distance, you'll need a taller one. Or, you can do like some do and simply adjust to whatever your rifle's peculiarities happen to be. Many target-competitive shooters used Lyman after-market micrometer aperture sights, preferring them to the factory sights. Final comment: In order to determine the precise performance of your sights, you'll need to do empirical real-world testing on the range, preferably at a variety of distances, using your chosen load. In other words, once you get a decent working zero on the rifle and sights, when you set the rear sights to "200 yards," where does your shot actually land? Right on at 200, or 190 or perhaps 215? How much does POI vary with changing temperature or by shooting position? Does your rifle prefer one load over another? And so on. There's potentially a good bit of detective work involved.
I liked this video, but the distances you gave for the M1903 were a bit off. Its worse than you say. Battle sights are actually 547 yards due to the upgrade from 30.03 to 30.06. Distances are.
a) Volley notch for 2850 yd
b)”U” notch 1400 to 2750 yd
c) Battle sight notch 547yd
d)”U” notch 100 to 2475 yd
e) Peep sight 100 to 2375 yd
www.trfindley.com/origstmps/1903_sight_use.pdf
Also, don't forget 98ks were never known to explode in soldier's faces like early M1903s. I own both.
Actually having the sling on the bottom will help with accuracy when firing. The simple act of putting your arm through the sling and adding a slight downward pressure helps mitigate muzzle rise while firing. Trying that with a side mount sling like on the KAR98K just might pull the gun down and to the left.
I think personally both rifles are really good, but don’t forget many many different countries copy,”Mauser style” rifles. In this case, the 1903 Springfield all “a” rifles had the same mechanism besides the bolt arms, and the whole rifle stock (including barrel), is a completely different style. The Mauser bolt itself had no rear locking lug in the back, but the Springfield did preventing the round from exploding in your face. now both of these rifles are extremely good, but I’m a guy that uses literal meaning like, “the 1903 Springfield is a Mauser clone.” I’d assume they mean the action kinda like an AR15 and M16A1. What it appears to me is the action is the same, JUST THE WHOLE STOCK in the front is a totally different concept.
There was a test done with the locking lug of the 1903 were the front to locking lugs were shaved off and only the last lug was used and I believe 2000+ rounds were shot though the rifle with no failures so I can not agree with you on your description of the locking lugs of the 1903
I'd like to see a primary source for that test before I believe it.
North Florida Gun Guy fair enough I’ll definitely do more research on this test and get it over to you
Find anything? I’m actually pretty curious tbh
@@landen2934 brother just do a RUclips search the whole lower number 1903 drama is exactly that. Apparently now that I have been into gun a little longer and did more research on the 1903. The test that was done on the 1903 was severely skewed in one way. Basically the place that tested the rifles that blew up. Used extremely over powered Ammo and Ammo that wasn’t even meant for the 1903 such as the 8mm Mauser. Look if your extremely worried about it I suggest first off do your own research. Also just to put more emphasis on my research and point of view on this subject. Don’t you think by now any 1903 that was going to pop would have been done it your talking about a rifle that was built over a hundred years ago. Used in the military then most likely sold for surplus and shot by Joe mo from Kokomo during deer season.
I prefer the M1903 simply because ammo for it will always be available. 8mm mauser is getting harder and harder to find but 30-06 doesn't seem be going away anytime some.
Buy 7.62 for kar98k
Fun fact. Almost all Mausers that the Germans left in Norway after the war were rebarreled to 30-06.
Yeah that's how I originally got a kar98k in .30-06 then I found an 8mm action.
@@Mavd-mk9iq no...7.92
Why does the m1 garand look so similar to the 1903? The wood work of the gun looks so similar to me.
Good comparason, both great rifles
I love your content! Can yuo please do hunting videos with the k98?
The springfield unscrewing mechanism/release reminds me of a Winchester 70 bolt...
And the Springfield ,serial numbers under 25000.are said to be unsafe to fire due to inconsistent heat treatment .
250000.sorry .
Really you are a mauser master sir sat shri akal ji
.30-06: Kevlar can't save you now
8mm Mauser: .30-06's little brother who could break your legs
Both are excellent calibers for excellent rifles.
😂
Both are good rifles but the k98 has the edge better sights sling configuration an overall balance
One extra like for the dog
Geez, yer Cat turned into a little doggie!, Tks for the video. Right on, I have both rifles.
Swedish mauser clips work for the 1903. and theyre affordable and better than the cheap repops
The 1903 Springfield looks like a crude, more antique copy of the Mauser. This makes sense because the 1903 is based largely on the 1893 Mauser, not the 1898 Mauser.
I love my K98.
K98 ALL DAY LONG
So how interchangeable are these two with each other? Sorry for the question thats been asked over and over Im sure. I just inherited a 1903/03a3 that has been made a sportier style and has a synthetic stock that is cracked on both sides. Would the 1903 fit in a k98 stock? Not very familiar with the older military rifles.
No, it will only fit 1903 stocks. If I was you I'd look for a decent replacement stock and hardware on ebay and replace it if it isn't going over your budget.
@@MilsurpWorld thank you very much, I appreciate your response!
0:00 Hey guys, Ian McCallum here with Forgotten Weapons.
How he said it reminded me of Ian.
The mauser just looks so sexy
I see you are not really familiar with the Mauser when it comes to uncocking the rifel. Please try (unloaded!!!) closing the Mauser while holding the trigger, you will notice it is possible to load six shots without having a cocked rifel
All I got to say is their both powerhouses
they’re
The Springfield is a more elegant version of the Mauser than the k98k, but my favorite bolt gun is the Swiss K31. I like them all though.
Highlighte
Michael McGregor
1 year ago
"The Springfield 1903 was an unlicensed knockoff of the Mauser and the United States Patent Court found that the United States Army had violated Mauser’s patents and required the U.S. Army to pay over $250,000 in patent royalties to the German arms manufacturer Ludwig & Loewe/Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken Aktien-Gesellschaft and we continued to pay patent royalties until we entered World War One against Germany."
1:17min. My hunting buddy accidentally fired 8x57js out of a .30-06 cal. Rifle... Without blowing up the gun.. greetings from Germany
Ouch.
Where do you get k98ks bleach isn't doing the work
At the K98k store.
North Florida Gun Guy k98 is the best!
Mauser 98 original is da best
they look too similar it's hard to tell the 2 apart
I'd say Kar had better sights by far
The dog dont agree
Mauser is better
This review is a little disingenuous seeing you are comparing an American WWI rifle to a German WWII rifle. The WWI German rifle was the Gewehr model 1898 which is 49.2 inches long (Spfld O3 is 43.2 inches) has a straight bolt handle compared to the Springfield’s curved bolt handle, and the 1898’s follower did not lock the bolt back after the last round is ejected to indicate empty unlike the Springfield which did. The Springfield was a far better rifle than the Mauser Model 1898. The 98k used in WWII had improvements which the Springfield already had back in the First World War but by then the U.S. had already moved on to the M1 Garand.
The United States was still making that model of 1903 until the late 1930s to early 1940s and used them in WW2. And the Germans had the K98AZ, which is very compatible to the K98k, during WW1 so it is a valid comparison.
I like the magazine cutoff
Something to note is that the 1903 is largely based upon the Mauser 93 action (as that's what the Krag was up against in the Spanish-American war), not the Mauser 98 action. This is why many of the improvements made to the Mauser 98 from the Mauser 93 (Large ring at the front of the receiver, keyed hole in the bolt body for the firing pin, more extensive gas mitigation, thumb cut for loading, guide rib, etc.) aren't present in the 1903. Some of the improvements did make it into the 1903, but they were developed independently which is why the implementation is slightly different between the two (cock on open, 3rd safety lug, plunger/button to press for bolt disassembly, etc.)
The K-98 price now days is $800-$1400. The 1903 $1000-$1600 way too much.
Dude I bought mine for just a tad under $500 for a Yugo refurb.
Springfield copy Mauser action and Mauser sued and Springfield lost the case in court, patent fee per rifle made, ( they paid mauser a lot of money) 200,000 what i heard i found out on video & a gun sale-man that died, i got a c/z usa 550, 6.5 x55 se the newer 6.5 x 55 sweed will fit older used cases need neck cut off some to work right! it was a newer Mauser type action!
M1917 rifle > both
n°4 enfield > both by a long shot.
@@PATRONSKiii if you like rim jams, yes.
The M1917 is long, ungainly and heavy in comparison to the M1903. The sights, alleged to be "superior"to those on the M1903, aren't all they're cracked up to be. It's an excellent basis for sporterizing, and also for conversion to magnum calibers thanks to its very strong and large receiver, but in stock form, the M1903 was the superior rifle. All day, every day, and twice on Sunday.
5:41 mauser is a bolt action rifle,BOLT ACTION RIFLE
You missed something.
Kar98k is better
Springfield ahead of kar98k. Kar98k was ww2 standerd issue rifle and Springfield ww1 standerd rifle with short barrel, in ww1 germans prefers full length 98.
There were carbine version of the gewehr 98 in ww1
So wdy guys prefer? A kar98 or Springfield?
This is a great example of two overpriced rifles.
Not sure what price you think is appropriate, but you can get Standardmodell Mausers in very good condition for 300 bucks.
As the hunting rifle not the k98k
Why? Is it because of the 8mm cartridge? Is the rifle to cumbersome? I ask these questions because i am going to use my 8mm Spanish Mauser for hunting this year and this rifle is a basic copy of the K98k
jedimastercavanaugh 8mm Mausers have been used as hunting rifles for over a century.
The Springfield looks hilariously ugly next to the kar98k lol
Here is a fun fact the 1903 Springfield is actually modeled after the 1893 Spanish Mauser.
Springfield hat einen hässlichen schaft
You talk too fast.....
Sorry, I'll try and slow it down next time.
M1903 springfield should have been in fortnite
You may not like those Springfield sights, but U.S. Marines killed Germans in WW1 at 800+ yards with those sights.
1903 👎 98k 👍👏😘