What Danny didn't say was the shellac isn't a finish like we're used to. It was applied for it's hydrophobic properties. This helps block water from getting to the wood and helps block cosmoline from being absorbed into the wood too. Also the reason the trade agreement is such a big deal is that only India and Thailand produce shellac in large enough amounts for this rework process.
Although not 'aesthetically correct', these Russian captures are definitely historically significant. They remind one of the extreme hardships of Stalingrad, the fierce fighting at Kursk, or the final battle for Berlin.
I don't agree with the attitude towards the Russian capture. It's still a German k98k. What the Russians did is nothing more than what we call a bubba job. Other than the fact that it shoots good it has historical value. They're not making these rifles anymore and that being said they deserve a little more respect than what they're given. I've seen some beautiful RCs that were nicely corrected to a oil finished stock and a real blue finish. It may not have a huge collectable value but sure looks better.
got my russian capture k98 for $400 at a local shop about a year ago. 1944 DOT. It has some rough spots but still has the eagles. Some people shit on Russian Captures but to me your getting an awesome rife without spending the crazy money on original german k98's. I certainly want an original german k98 at some point, but for now the russian capture does more than scratch the itch.
In the the late 1960's (high school for me), my friends had these German mausers. You could buy one from these guys for 20 dollars. We would put them in the trunks of our cars so we could go shooting after school. Nobody cared that we had rifles out in the parking lot. The teacher would ask us what we were doing after school; we said "going out to the sand pit to shoot the guns". I had five uncles in ww2. They were sending mausers and other German stuff back to their families and relatives. After a battle, they were laying all over the place.
Enjoyed your post. I have a Yugo K98k purchased a few years back for $100. Added a long eye relief scope much like you'd expect with a scout rifle. It's a good shooter.
I really enjoy how varied these rifles are. It's always fun meeting someone with another RC and just comparing the odd differences each rifle has from the refurbishing process. And like you say at the end, it's fun to have a cheap k98 that you can drag through the woods and can handle roughly without the guilt of damaging a historical piece
I have one. paid 89 dollars for it, in the 80's, and 120 for a check Mauser. both are in great shape. it shoots great. the black finish is ok. the little x on the receiver doesn't take away from the rifle to me. I bought them to shoot, not be museum relics. I made the bores shinny again, with clr and then comet.
I have a Russian capture P38 that I got for a steal because the dealer was snooty and turned up his nose at it. I think being an RC just adds to its history. Aa long as it functions correctly and is in decent shape, I have no problem.
I have one and I was sad that they removed the hood, bottom mag/receiver screws and put smaller ones in and of course no sling or cleaning rod. But glad I have one and it was affordable before now.
When Iron curtain came down, in 1991, these captured 98ks began to be shipped to the West....Problem, was so many had parts needed changing, and bores were ate-up...…..The Russians slowed importing for 15-18 months, while re-arsenaling the remainder, to get them up to standards, then continued shipping , hence the 'x', as passing inspection before exporting...…..(I had to rebarrel two of the early ones in 1991)
I bought four RC K98's back in 2004 when they were 220 a piece. One had the Swastikas peened out but the other three had them intact. I had to sell three of them some years later, still kicking myself for doing so. But I kept one. A real mix match. Prewar solid walnut stock with a 1934 dated barrel and a Mauser Oberdorf reciever. You can tell it's been thru a war (the stock in particular) but it's still one of my most accurate shooters and my favourite rifle. Way better than a Mosin. Now that most military surpluss as dried up the prices are just stupid if you can even find one. They are interesting pieces of history and excellent rifles in their own right. Apparently the ones with intact Swastikas came out of Ukraine. Ukrainians apparently didn't mind having Swastikas on the ones they refurbed.
Thanks for the vid and info...I got a K98 capture...and now I know...Around £290 ($371)...I was told it came from Kursk...maybe I bought it around 2007...It has been disarmed...metal rod welded in barrel and bolt chamfered with a grinder at the front (UK law)...It's only a display collectors gun for here in the UK...Maybe I'll shoot one next time I go to the US...That would be an experience...and shoot an M1911 and a Luger and an army colt...and a colt peacemaker...I'd like that...I'd only need to do that once just to say I'd done it
I just picked up a prewar 1937 J.P. Sauer Mauser Karabiner 98 Kurz with Civilian Markings that turned out to be a Russian capture. Contrary To Popular Belief, K98k Mausers before 1940 lacked a sight hood and had the flat buttplate style until it was discovered that the flat buttplate would crack the stock easier. It was 1940 and beyond where they produced guns with those two features; the hooded front sight and the buttplate cap. The Shellac job on my example was terrible as the stock has shallac particles coming off onto your hands as you held it, but the Blackening/Bluing was really beautiful. The Barrel and Receiver are matching, however the bolt has been electropenciled. The stock is original, or at least the butt-plate is as it matches by the serial stamp. There was no X mark on the receiver. The Bolt is still smooth operating as if it were arsenal refurbished so that matching numbers wouldn't matter, but I suspect a true receiver bolt match would be even smoother. The trigger has a lot of take-up, a moderate wall and the trigger breaks like glass with a satisfying sound. The bore is in good shape with clear rifling and no pitting, but the bore is still in need of a proper clean. I ran a 308 bore snake through it, but I need a 8mm Mauser bore snake to get it properly clean. I plan to get a cleaning rod and the missing capture screws, but other than that I think I'll leave it alone. Yes, before you ask, this is going to be a shooter. It has a unique history as it is likely it served the border guards, the prewar Wehrmacht or perhaps either the SA or SS. It then eventually made its way to the Eastern Front where it was eventually captured by the Soviets. I just don't understand why Russian Captures are considered worthless compared to Wartime, Kriegsmodel and Volkskarabiner 98 Mausers with Waffenampt Stamps. What's so special about the Nazi markings that drives the price up so much? Russian captures have so much history and for 800 bucks, for a pre-war example that was later a Soviet Capture, I'm not complaining. I also picked up at the same time a wonderfully preserved Toyo Kogyo Arsenal (Subcontracted by Kokura Arsenal) 32nd Series Arisaka Type 99 Rifle. Built Approximately in 1943, it was the last series of Arisaka from that arsenal to be fitted with a monopod, dust cover and full anti-aircraft sights. The Rifle has an excellent and shiny chrome lined bore and chromed bolt head with no issues that I can see. The original stock finish is untouched, the stock is beautiful and there was a Japanese soldier battlefield modification on the rear sling mount which is a round ring instead of a D ring like on the original sling mount. This Rifle possibly served during Guadalcanal (as it would be the time period), but more likely engaged the enemy during the Invasion of the Philippines or during the invasion of Okinawa. Due to the existence of an Intact Mum that has been only slightly molested (a couple of Bayonet scratch marks on the top right hand corner), it is entirely possible it was picked up by a Marine during one of these battles who brought it home as a war trophy. I am going to restore it as it is missing its monopod, dust cover and cleaning rod and before you ask, yes, I am also going to shoot it. I was amazed that a intact mum Arisaka was in the shop for 600 bucks. I made sure the Mum was genuine as an original mum has 16 petals, most faked intact mum examples out there use a 14 petal chrysanthemum metal stamp.
I have a Yugo K98k. It does not have the cross rifles, it has pressed serial numbers on the floor plate, left side of the receiver and the rotated number on the butt end of the stock. It has the cupped butt plate. It was refurbished at the Zestava plant. It is in excellent condition and shoots great. Does not have electro penciled numbers. Has a couple of wafen symbols on the receiver and a Yugoslavian crest on the top of the receiver.
I have a rc marked AX 41 which I've heard to be rare the bore looks amazing some numbers match but not all of course. Overall worth the 300$ I spent even came with 50rds.
I scored a byf44 in fair condition for a little under 2 bills in early 2018. The deals are there, you just have to look and be aware. Good luck hunting.
Much like nearly any US rifle that went through a refurbishment. My M1903 from 1936 was rebuilt in the war, and looks like a WWI M1903 with a 1940 barrel. It came out of the rebuild with an earlier stock. The USA was terrible when it came to keeping parts together, they weren't even numbered, so you had to find out if the part has a heat lot number from roughly the time of the receiver. Sure, optimally a Mauser collector wants all the numbered parts to match, but the RCs can be made into good weapons that look like they did when the Germans used them, although that may require swapping and refinishing stocks and parts as I did for mine. Sight hoods and cleaning rods are easy to get. At least the Soviets did not scrub the receivers like the Yugos did.
I just got a K98 after wanting one for awhile that was made in 1941. 90% matching and it is a Russian capture but other the cross marking you wouldn’t know.
I have a Mitchell’s Kar98k. Trolls can save their hate. This was a Christmas gift from my father (one of the last gifts he ever gave me - and I will never sell it). He believed their hype. I am pretty sure it is a Russian capture that they took and polished the bolt group (removing all original bluing), and most likely renumbered all the parts to be matching. They put a mint, new matching numbered stock on it - as if that could survive the war in that condition. There is a strange “asterisk” symbol on the receiver band. I read somewhere that a lot of Russian captures had an “X” engraved on them and that Mitchell’s simply engraved another line through it to make a “nonsense” symbol. Functionally, it still is a nice example. All tight fitting and clean. Just no historical value to collectors.
Craig Savarese Hey Craig one thing you can honestly do to make it look a little better is to get you some Casey’s cold blue and darken the bolt and then some Lind seed oil and wipe the stock and it will over time give it a slightly darker color making it even more beautiful. I did a Mitchell’s like that several years ago and traded it since. I’m not a Mitchell’s hater yes they are RC but darn good looking ones. I still have over 10 German Mausers none ever will be sold or traded again.
I have heard the same thing about the x having another line stamped through it by Mitchell's. Could be a good way to identify between a Russian capture rifle and one molested by Mitchell mausers.
Props to your dad..my old man didn't do much for me. The hate people throw at mitchell's mausers is deserved. I bought ONE m48 yugo from mitchell's. I am satisfied with it, knowing it's an m48 and a good shooter. Mitchell's lies, overcharges, and sells a product that is altered and not what they claim it to be....that is why they get hate thrown at them. Liars and frauds deserve hate.
Thanks for this! I have a Russian capture myself that I probably wouldn't have known what it was if not for your video, so thanks! Really informed my on my research, and there's still more to go but it's damn interesting. Practically everything's force matched on my K98, as per Russian style, but the barrel/receiver is manufactured in 38' and stamped for approval in '42 (Nazi eagle with 280 under it) even though it's a S/243. The rest appear to be all over the place manufacture wise. WaA63, WaA77, WaA655. There's a weird F that I haven't figured out either, as well. Unfortunately, a lot of the original stamping on the bolt and other force matched parts have been sanded down so I'll probably never know everything, but it's still neat.
I think what more or less happened with the capture screws and sight hoods is they were thrown away simply because they didn't want to bother with putting them back on. Especially when some rifles are cut of the sight hood and some weren't. Removing and replacing the sight hood is the most labor intensive part of 98k disassembly IMHO. The cleaning rods were probably thrown away due to there being both 10" and 12" rods. After the stocks were mixed up it would have been a major chore sorting all those out to find what went where. That problem was exacerbated by stocks made after mid 1944 that weren't drilled for the cleaning rod at all.
When you buy a Soviet Capture, you're securing an authentic WW2 Eastern Front war horse, battlefield pick up, & piece of history, which probably died in some SOB's arms. In my mind, having been captured, parts broke down, re-blued & mismatched makes for its history & story. Regardless of whether the serial numbered parts were all mixed up post: Please don't treat it like sh*t.
So I thought about it last night, I think you should do a video on Turkish Mausers. They are still the cheapest Milsurps out there and they are quality! You could do all the different varieties including the 1954 ATF (only 15,000) made.
You know what would be a good video? Interview a former "Mitchell's Mausers" employee who was involved with the refurbishing of the k98ks that were sold by them in past years. I have a byf '44, shellacked stock, electro penned bolt---- shiny, and matching part numbers with Mitchell's info on the barrel, beautiful bluing etc; I got it at a pawnshop, I knew what I was buying, got a good deal so don't pity me or think I'm a dumb idiot. It is obviously one of the cheaper grades of k98ks that they sold. I would like to know what exactly Mitchell's did to the RCs they got and how they did it. How many people worked for them, etc; very little history about Mitchell's but much ill will about their deceptive advertising and their continuing assertion that the Yugo M48 (or whatever it is) is a WW2 Mauser. It would be fun to find out more history.
@heimatlos I too am a "true" WW2 weapons, vehicle and gear collector. I love the unmolested rare thing... Unfortunately the unmolested rare thing is RARE in my collections. I have mostly unrare semi ruined things. For example, I have an early Rock-ola from the original civilian owner who got it from the original Civilian Marksmanship Program sale in 1964. It's semi ruined because the P.O. blued it and filled the slingwell and changed the rear sight. Unless it's one of those rare "blued" carbines!! Lol!! But most of my collection is like this, Mitchell's Mauser included! But there's always the option to upgrade!!!
Here's another semi ruined thing in my collection... A Remington Rand 1911a1 . It's a Rock Island arsenal rebuild... has the RR slide with a Union Switch and Signal frame with other RR or Colt parts... Also appears to have possibly been refinished with a nice olive-oily looking Dulite re-Dulite-ed after the arsenal rebuild... But I don't think I would trade up for a more exact original... It's a beautiful shooter too...
@@Dan-sq5cv Mauser sights are the worst. Anyone who says they get 1 moa at 100 to 200 yards with any ole milsurp rifle and iron sights are full of shxx. With over 50 years shooting milsurps I never got 1 moa distance shooting even when I had better than 20/20 eye sight. I even hand load to each rifle. Most used corrisive ammo, primers except for the Swiss. Although I have a Yugo M48A which is basically a new rifle with a S&K mount and a scout scope that gets close. Most K98's have a great action built like a tank but have dark bores. And I have a few nice ones but sighting them at 100-200 yards is a bitch. lol. Good luck :)
Vulcan Refinishing can and has restored those to make them look like a complete matching numbers rifle. He has the laser markings and you chose the new matching numbers. This guy is so good he replicates the damn machining marks.
I don’t really think it’s any mystery as to why the Soviets would refurbish and store hundreds of thousands if not millions of captured rifles. We have to remember that although the AK was designed in 47, it wouldn’t actually see widespread adoption until the 60s and the K98 would make a fine rear echelon rifle if the need arose. Best not to relive the small arms shortage of 1941 again.
I've got two of these capture rifles...to me they have a TON more provenance than their non 'X' marked counterparts...the Soviets were terrible pack rats...thankfully for us collectors in the post Soviet era...I have a prize Mauser in my collection.. 1916 Spandau manufactured Gew 98....it was one of the early rifles that Hitler ordered converted to the new Kar98k model before illegally manufacturing new rifles in contravention of the Versailles treaty...it survived the Great WAR, the Weimar republic, the second World war and 'bubba' in the states..if it was made in 1916 it survived some of the worst fighting/destruction...I love those Soviet Captures...if only they could talk...
In 1968 my father bought ten K98ks for $28.50 each; ten bayonets for them for $3.50 each; and, 1000 rounds of 8mm ball ammo for $50. He ordered by mail from a company called Century Arms located in St Albans, Vermont. I was 14 at the time and remember him saying the prices of these guns will more than double in the future.
I'm by no means an expert on mausers, so i could be wrong, but its my understanding that when a RC 98k has its swastika's scratched off, it was generally due to the proxy countries that got issued them not wanting to be using a gun with nazi marks on it, so if your's does its likely it saw combat or at least a second service life outside of the wehrmacht got mine at an auction for 450 at the hammer, '36 receiver s/243 with 3 commercial marks and only 1 waffenamp. import stamp on the barrel edge from VA, bolt force match and a pretty heavy black-oxide finish on the metal. i'd prefer the original german look of the wood but i actually dont mind the shellac as much, its a fairly nice red imo. Funny thing too, the russians put the sight on upside down as well, so the notch was on the bottom instead of the top when i first got it Overall a pretty solid quality rc, based on its condition it probably just sat in storage after its work was done. insanely glad to have it, even if its expensive as hell to shoot and find ammo for it.
nope - mine has a Russian wreath/star pinged over the proof on the receiver but it is still visible and also untouched in other places -- PLUS the stock is great and not shellacked.
5:00 I think they didn't add them back because to them it wasn't worth the time and effort. The rifles still functioned just fine without those parts so they weren't necessary.
When you said the price was 600 bones I knew this video was a couple years old. Most RC guns in poor condition with all stamps removed will fetch at least 1000$ on GB or local listings.
I don't look down on these ya they may not be matching but people pay big money for supposed "action" K98k but you can get a Russian capture that was pretty much guaranteed to have seen action because most were probably captured on the eastern front, I've had some they shoot great and most bores are excellent on these captures or the Russians would have discarded a bad bore
Saw a 1938 K98 42 all matching including stock. Everything was intact but on the left side of barrel where it meets the receiver 3 german eagles with swatz but a small stamped Star on the barrel. The stock and rest of gun does not look like a russian caputure as its bluing is pretty worn, no shellac on stock and no scribes on bolt or stock. Just don't remember the Germans stamping a Star on guns.
I actually own an MG53, with alot of parts that have this electro penciling on them. this mean all these parts where WW2 MG42 parts, captured, then given to the Yugoslavians who used them in the production of the MG53 My MG53 also does NOT have a yugo crest on top
Best bolt action rifle of WW2 . The 303 cartridge alone makes that rifle trash needless to say the safety , a real man killer ,that is the man carrying the 303 .
Good video Sir🇺🇸 Do you have a video about/showing a ‘shooter kit’ install for a K43? I have two and want to outfit one. Also, who you would recommend buying the kit through? Thanks from mountainy Idaho🇺🇸
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I have a Russian capture K98k which I purchased about 12 years ago. It is marked S/42G . From my research this is a date of 1935. I think this is the first year that the K98k was made for the German Army. Receiver and barrel match. The rest is mixed numbers. Metal and wood are in pretty good condition. Do you have any idea what this rifle would be worth ? Just curious. Thank you for any info you can provide.
They exist because not everybody can afford mint numbers matching rifles or want one. I have 3 rc k98. Paid 250 apiece years ago when they were being imported after the supply of regular k98 dried up. An rc k98 has an extra layer of history to it. Occasionally both show up at the pawn shop or consignment rack. The last rc k98 I saw was 650 and an original numbers matching late war k98 was 1600. On the rc k98 some had the german stamps peened out some did not. Also look at the bore. Some have original bores and some are counterbored. Historic rifle from Nazi Germany and rearsenaled by communist Soviet Union. Both entities no longer exist.
I completely disagree with the closing few seconds of your video where you stated that you can be rough with them and ding them up because it won’t be a huge historical loss. I sincerely don’t understand why so many people have this attitude towards Russian Capture K98’s. It’s truly sad to me. I mean no offense but have you ever heard of Die Ostfront? Not to mention the rifles capture, refurbishment, and re-purposing by the Soviets. Tons of history there.
@@nothanks3590 you are incorrect. These guns literally experienced WW2 on the Eastern Front and then experienced Soviet refurbishment and storage. That is historical value whether you like it or not. And I’m not confusing anything. Historical value is collectible value. And besides; who are you to judge that these guns have no historical value? You’re not the proprietor of anything. And telling me to “grow up” who pissed in your Cheerios😂😂
If I find one at a good price with a nice bore, I will buy it. I buy rifles to shoot them not to have them collecting dust in a safe. Now, I would never pay more than a $600 for a surplus bolt action rifle. I have seen a K-98 at $2500 and $3500, whoever pay so much are idiots. A Spanish, Swedish and Turkish Mauser do the same job for less.
Hey can some one help me value a k98? As i know nothing about them really. Not as much as you guys probably do! Im in canada here and no one really knows them well
@@chuckschillingvideos I know but it was still a awesome find. I wonder if they even knew what they had or if they were selling it for cheap because it was pretty rusted and worn.
@@chuckschillingvideos no that’s not true you’re thinking of Yugoslavian. Russians left the markings alone for the most part. I have had multiple RCs and they have all had markings. It’s actually uncommon to find RCs peened off
Here's another fun thing... How many k98ks did Don Mitchell get? Supposedly he went into business in 2002? And it took him 15 years to sell out of them? He must have had quite a few!!
Sight hoods, capture screws, cleaning rods weren't considered necessary items for a good combat rifle so they didn't bother putting them back after cleaning and refinancing them. They Soviet military doctrine was arm as many people as possible in the event of war. An obsolete rifle is better than no rifle at all especially if the new semi and full auto rifles didn't work out or couldn't be produced fast enough. The Red Army captured several million K98k rifles and several tons of ammunition. So why let all that free stuff go to waste. The Germans did the same thing with all of the captured weapons from the conquered countries.
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What Danny didn't say was the shellac isn't a finish like we're used to. It was applied for it's hydrophobic properties. This helps block water from getting to the wood and helps block cosmoline from being absorbed into the wood too.
Also the reason the trade agreement is such a big deal is that only India and Thailand produce shellac in large enough amounts for this rework process.
Very interesting. Thx
Omgthis man has a lot of. Rifles behind him
Not news to me. I used to collect Arisakas.
Although not 'aesthetically correct', these Russian captures are definitely historically significant. They remind one of the extreme hardships of Stalingrad, the fierce fighting at Kursk, or the final battle for Berlin.
And plus now even a Russian capture is 65 years old plus.
I agree with your statement completely.
I don't agree with the attitude towards the Russian capture. It's still a German k98k. What the Russians did is nothing more than what we call a bubba job. Other than the fact that it shoots good it has historical value. They're not making these rifles anymore and that being said they deserve a little more respect than what they're given. I've seen some beautiful RCs that were nicely corrected to a oil finished stock and a real blue finish. It may not have a huge collectable value but sure looks better.
Your enfield is cocked and it's killing my OCD :D
I'm the same way, I noticed it while editing and decocked it.
@@MilsurpWorld Beautiful collection!
Why’d you have to point this out. Now I’m annoyed
I thought this guy was shirtless at first.
Hahah same bro
At first glance I thought he was nude with a farmer's tan! Please don't wear this shirt color in a video again.
Is that why you clicked?
got my russian capture k98 for $400 at a local shop about a year ago. 1944 DOT. It has some rough spots but still has the eagles. Some people shit on Russian Captures but to me your getting an awesome rife without spending the crazy money on original german k98's. I certainly want an original german k98 at some point, but for now the russian capture does more than scratch the itch.
A Russian Capture is an 'original' K98K. Just not in it's original as issued by the Germans condition.
Just picked up my Russian capture k98 today. love it!
It's still a Mauser 98 no matter how you slice or dice it. Still the best bolt action rifle out there.
@@MrPokesmot32 what's your favorite looking bolt action rifle?
@@MrPokesmot32
You're a clever guy. You know that M38 could mean at least 20 different rifles, so nobody would ever know what you meant
German WWII small arms are going up like crazy in price pretty soon the “cheap” Russian capture will be prohibitively expensive
People are trying to sell them for $1200 plus here in Canada, picked one up a 6 years back for around 500
@@1v75cjgu2j2j 1300-1600 now but the gun ban caused everything to go up
Am i the only one who likes the shellac look? Makes it look much newer. And having extra damage protection from water and dings is a plus in my book.
I just got into Mausers so this was very informative. For me the takeaway is that, event though it’s a ‘capture’, it’s still the real thing. Ja wohl!
In the the late 1960's (high school for me), my friends had these German mausers. You could buy one from these guys for 20 dollars. We would put them in the trunks of our cars so we could go shooting after school. Nobody cared that we had rifles out in the parking lot. The teacher would ask us what we were doing after school; we said "going out to the sand pit to shoot the guns". I had five uncles in ww2. They were sending mausers and other German stuff back to their families and relatives. After a battle, they were laying all over the place.
Enjoyed your post. I have a Yugo K98k purchased a few years back for $100. Added a long eye relief scope much like you'd expect with a scout rifle. It's a good shooter.
Pretty happy that I bought 2 of them. One of them was my first firearm. Good prices for Australia.
Reproduction or original?
Have a capture k98 an it shoots great kicks quite a bit but accurate
I bought a gi bring back s/243 1938 date for 400$ all matching best buy ever sad to say the paperwork was lost over the years
I really enjoy how varied these rifles are. It's always fun meeting someone with another RC and just comparing the odd differences each rifle has from the refurbishing process.
And like you say at the end, it's fun to have a cheap k98 that you can drag through the woods and can handle roughly without the guilt of damaging a historical piece
In the thumbnail I thought you were shirtless, I saw the word “Russian” and didn’t even question what I thought I saw
>Go on Gunbroker
>Only RC K98s visible are over $1000 in decent condition. All below that price are trashed.
'tis not a good time for milsurp
Buy an M48 for 350-$450?
Echo Delta boomers.
Found one in great shape with matching barrel and receiver for $500 a month ago.
Polish Mafia 15 boomers ruining the collecting economy just like they ruined the housing economy.
M48 or Turkish ones. They’re both pretty good.
I have one. paid 89 dollars for it, in the 80's, and 120 for a check Mauser. both are in great shape. it shoots great. the black finish is ok. the little x on the receiver doesn't take away from the rifle to me. I bought them to shoot, not be museum relics. I made the bores shinny again, with clr and then comet.
I bought one of the RC 98s over 10 yrs ago for about $550 Fazul and I love it. I have made 400 yard shots with it. Wish I had bought 2.
That G43/K43 hanging on the wall in the upper right got that bug going once again. Thanks ya bastard.
I have a Russian capture P38 that I got for a steal because the dealer was snooty and turned up his nose at it. I think being an RC just adds to its history. Aa long as it functions correctly and is in decent shape, I have no problem.
I've got one and I absolutely love it. Sure it doesn't all match and doesn't look the same. But it's still a 98K.
I have a pretty nice pre-Nazi (1936) Mauser-built Russian capture with a decent late-war stock. I dropped a Timney trigger in it and it shoots great!
I have one and I was sad that they removed the hood, bottom mag/receiver screws and put smaller ones in and of course no sling or cleaning rod. But glad I have one and it was affordable before now.
When Iron curtain came down, in 1991, these captured 98ks began to be shipped to the West....Problem, was so many had parts needed changing, and bores were ate-up...…..The Russians slowed importing for 15-18 months, while re-arsenaling the remainder, to get them up to standards, then continued shipping , hence the 'x', as passing inspection before exporting...…..(I had to rebarrel two of the early ones in 1991)
I bought one 22 years ago for $200 in immaculate condition.
I’m fortunate enough to have one and it’s such a beautiful tack driver
They didn't sit and rust, they were dipped in cosmoline and put in storage for a decade, then reworked assembly wise and now sold to the west..
I bought four RC K98's back in 2004 when they were 220 a piece. One had the Swastikas peened out but the other three had them intact. I had to sell three of them some years later, still kicking myself for doing so. But I kept one. A real mix match. Prewar solid walnut stock with a 1934 dated barrel and a Mauser Oberdorf reciever. You can tell it's been thru a war (the stock in particular) but it's still one of my most accurate shooters and my favourite rifle. Way better than a Mosin. Now that most military surpluss as dried up the prices are just stupid if you can even find one. They are interesting pieces of history and excellent rifles in their own right. Apparently the ones with intact Swastikas came out of Ukraine. Ukrainians apparently didn't mind having Swastikas on the ones they refurbed.
Thanks for the vid and info...I got a K98 capture...and now I know...Around £290 ($371)...I was told it came from Kursk...maybe I bought it around 2007...It has been disarmed...metal rod welded in barrel and bolt chamfered with a grinder at the front (UK law)...It's only a display collectors gun for here in the UK...Maybe I'll shoot one next time I go to the US...That would be an experience...and shoot an M1911 and a Luger and an army colt...and a colt peacemaker...I'd like that...I'd only need to do that once just to say I'd done it
I got one when they were selling for $100. They go for about $500 now.
My Russian capture Dou 44 has the brightest bore. It's surprising. The bullet test in end the bore is very good as well. Like a new barrel.
I just picked up a prewar 1937 J.P. Sauer Mauser Karabiner 98 Kurz with Civilian Markings that turned out to be a Russian capture. Contrary To Popular Belief, K98k Mausers before 1940 lacked a sight hood and had the flat buttplate style until it was discovered that the flat buttplate would crack the stock easier. It was 1940 and beyond where they produced guns with those two features; the hooded front sight and the buttplate cap. The Shellac job on my example was terrible as the stock has shallac particles coming off onto your hands as you held it, but the Blackening/Bluing was really beautiful. The Barrel and Receiver are matching, however the bolt has been electropenciled. The stock is original, or at least the butt-plate is as it matches by the serial stamp. There was no X mark on the receiver. The Bolt is still smooth operating as if it were arsenal refurbished so that matching numbers wouldn't matter, but I suspect a true receiver bolt match would be even smoother. The trigger has a lot of take-up, a moderate wall and the trigger breaks like glass with a satisfying sound. The bore is in good shape with clear rifling and no pitting, but the bore is still in need of a proper clean. I ran a 308 bore snake through it, but I need a 8mm Mauser bore snake to get it properly clean. I plan to get a cleaning rod and the missing capture screws, but other than that I think I'll leave it alone. Yes, before you ask, this is going to be a shooter. It has a unique history as it is likely it served the border guards, the prewar Wehrmacht or perhaps either the SA or SS. It then eventually made its way to the Eastern Front where it was eventually captured by the Soviets. I just don't understand why Russian Captures are considered worthless compared to Wartime, Kriegsmodel and Volkskarabiner 98 Mausers with Waffenampt Stamps. What's so special about the Nazi markings that drives the price up so much? Russian captures have so much history and for 800 bucks, for a pre-war example that was later a Soviet Capture, I'm not complaining.
I also picked up at the same time a wonderfully preserved Toyo Kogyo Arsenal (Subcontracted by Kokura Arsenal) 32nd Series Arisaka Type 99 Rifle. Built Approximately in 1943, it was the last series of Arisaka from that arsenal to be fitted with a monopod, dust cover and full anti-aircraft sights. The Rifle has an excellent and shiny chrome lined bore and chromed bolt head with no issues that I can see. The original stock finish is untouched, the stock is beautiful and there was a Japanese soldier battlefield modification on the rear sling mount which is a round ring instead of a D ring like on the original sling mount. This Rifle possibly served during Guadalcanal (as it would be the time period), but more likely engaged the enemy during the Invasion of the Philippines or during the invasion of Okinawa. Due to the existence of an Intact Mum that has been only slightly molested (a couple of Bayonet scratch marks on the top right hand corner), it is entirely possible it was picked up by a Marine during one of these battles who brought it home as a war trophy. I am going to restore it as it is missing its monopod, dust cover and cleaning rod and before you ask, yes, I am also going to shoot it. I was amazed that a intact mum Arisaka was in the shop for 600 bucks. I made sure the Mum was genuine as an original mum has 16 petals, most faked intact mum examples out there use a 14 petal chrysanthemum metal stamp.
I have a Yugo K98k. It does not have the cross rifles, it has pressed serial numbers on the floor plate, left side of the receiver and the rotated number on the butt end of the stock. It has the cupped butt plate. It was refurbished at the Zestava plant. It is in excellent condition and shoots great. Does not have electro penciled numbers. Has a couple of wafen symbols on the receiver and a Yugoslavian crest on the top of the receiver.
I have a rc marked AX 41 which I've heard to be rare the bore looks amazing some numbers match but not all of course. Overall worth the 300$ I spent even came with 50rds.
Not gonna lie in the thumbnail it looked like you were shirtless with a farmers tan and a “milisurp world” tattoo.
Was it me being shirtless that made you click on it?
@@MilsurpWorld yes
1199.99 last I checked in my area of canada. Got mine in 2013 for 699.99 just about doubled in canada
Same in the states, K98s are prohibitively expensive
@@echodelta2172 which is crazy since not long ago russian captures were cheap.
I scored a byf44 in fair condition for a little under 2 bills in early 2018. The deals are there, you just have to look and be aware. Good luck hunting.
Yeah RC’s in Canada have flown up in price. Amazingly I waited a few years and just scored a ‘33 sporter all matching for 200 bucks lol.
Much like nearly any US rifle that went through a refurbishment. My M1903 from 1936 was rebuilt in the war, and looks like a WWI M1903 with a 1940 barrel. It came out of the rebuild with an earlier stock. The USA was terrible when it came to keeping parts together, they weren't even numbered, so you had to find out if the part has a heat lot number from roughly the time of the receiver. Sure, optimally a Mauser collector wants all the numbered parts to match, but the RCs can be made into good weapons that look like they did when the Germans used them, although that may require swapping and refinishing stocks and parts as I did for mine. Sight hoods and cleaning rods are easy to get. At least the Soviets did not scrub the receivers like the Yugos did.
Thanks for sharing. I have a Russian capture Mauser K98k rifle that is in excellent condition.
I paid 900 for mine. So the inflation is a serious problem. Especially in 2021. Thx everyone
Where? Cant find anywhere.
Mine is taken from them here and have right numbers and a Norwegian barrell :) from 1941.
I just got a K98 after wanting one for awhile that was made in 1941. 90% matching and it is a Russian capture but other the cross marking you wouldn’t know.
I have a Mitchell’s Kar98k. Trolls can save their hate. This was a Christmas gift from my father (one of the last gifts he ever gave me - and I will never sell it). He believed their hype. I am pretty sure it is a Russian capture that they took and polished the bolt group (removing all original bluing), and most likely renumbered all the parts to be matching. They put a mint, new matching numbered stock on it - as if that could survive the war in that condition. There is a strange “asterisk” symbol on the receiver band. I read somewhere that a lot of Russian captures had an “X” engraved on them and that Mitchell’s simply engraved another line through it to make a “nonsense” symbol. Functionally, it still is a nice example. All tight fitting and clean. Just no historical value to collectors.
Craig Savarese Hey Craig one thing you can honestly do to make it look a little better is to get you some Casey’s cold blue and darken the bolt and then some Lind seed oil and wipe the stock and it will over time give it a slightly darker color making it even more beautiful. I did a Mitchell’s like that several years ago and traded it since. I’m not a Mitchell’s hater yes they are RC but darn good looking ones. I still have over 10 German Mausers none ever will be sold or traded again.
I have heard the same thing about the x having another line stamped through it by Mitchell's. Could be a good way to identify between a Russian capture rifle and one molested by Mitchell mausers.
Props to your dad..my old man didn't do much for me. The hate people throw at mitchell's mausers is deserved. I bought ONE m48 yugo from mitchell's. I am satisfied with it, knowing it's an m48 and a good shooter. Mitchell's lies, overcharges, and sells a product that is altered and not what they claim it to be....that is why they get hate thrown at them. Liars and frauds deserve hate.
Thanks for this! I have a Russian capture myself that I probably wouldn't have known what it was if not for your video, so thanks! Really informed my on my research, and there's still more to go but it's damn interesting. Practically everything's force matched on my K98, as per Russian style, but the barrel/receiver is manufactured in 38' and stamped for approval in '42 (Nazi eagle with 280 under it) even though it's a S/243. The rest appear to be all over the place manufacture wise. WaA63, WaA77, WaA655. There's a weird F that I haven't figured out either, as well. Unfortunately, a lot of the original stamping on the bolt and other force matched parts have been sanded down so I'll probably never know everything, but it's still neat.
Mine i regret selling years ago was 80 precent matching hours and hours of cleaning you can get that orignal finish back on the wood
I think what more or less happened with the capture screws and sight hoods is they were thrown away simply because they didn't want to bother with putting them back on. Especially when some rifles are cut of the sight hood and some weren't. Removing and replacing the sight hood is the most labor intensive part of 98k disassembly IMHO. The cleaning rods were probably thrown away due to there being both 10" and 12" rods. After the stocks were mixed up it would have been a major chore sorting all those out to find what went where. That problem was exacerbated by stocks made after mid 1944 that weren't drilled for the cleaning rod at all.
When you buy a Soviet Capture, you're securing an authentic WW2 Eastern Front war horse, battlefield pick up, & piece of history, which probably died in some SOB's arms. In my mind, having been captured, parts broke down, re-blued & mismatched makes for its history & story. Regardless of whether the serial numbered parts were all mixed up post: Please don't treat it like sh*t.
So I thought about it last night, I think you should do a video on Turkish Mausers. They are still the cheapest Milsurps out there and they are quality! You could do all the different varieties including the 1954 ATF (only 15,000) made.
Send me some Turkish Mausers and I'll do it.
You know I was thinking of getting a Russian capture k98k at my local gun shop before i watched this video
You know what would be a good video? Interview a former "Mitchell's Mausers" employee who was involved with the refurbishing of the k98ks that were sold by them in past years. I have a byf '44, shellacked stock, electro penned bolt---- shiny, and matching part numbers with Mitchell's info on the barrel, beautiful bluing etc; I got it at a pawnshop, I knew what I was buying, got a good deal so don't pity me or think I'm a dumb idiot. It is obviously one of the cheaper grades of k98ks that they sold. I would like to know what exactly Mitchell's did to the RCs they got and how they did it. How many people worked for them, etc; very little history about Mitchell's but much ill will about their deceptive advertising and their continuing assertion that the Yugo M48 (or whatever it is) is a WW2 Mauser. It would be fun to find out more history.
@heimatlos I too am a "true" WW2 weapons, vehicle and gear collector. I love the unmolested rare thing... Unfortunately the unmolested rare thing is RARE in my collections. I have mostly unrare semi ruined things. For example, I have an early Rock-ola from the original civilian owner who got it from the original Civilian Marksmanship Program sale in 1964. It's semi ruined because the P.O. blued it and filled the slingwell and changed the rear sight. Unless it's one of those rare "blued" carbines!! Lol!! But most of my collection is like this, Mitchell's Mauser included! But there's always the option to upgrade!!!
Here's another semi ruined thing in my collection... A Remington Rand 1911a1 . It's a Rock Island arsenal rebuild... has the RR slide with a Union Switch and Signal frame with other RR or Colt parts... Also appears to have possibly been refinished with a nice olive-oily looking Dulite re-Dulite-ed after the arsenal rebuild... But I don't think I would trade up for a more exact original... It's a beautiful shooter too...
Well.. at values today these captured rifles can’t be treated like beaters😳
Take that No. 1 MKIII Enfield off the wall, remove the forearm and turn the rear sight protector around so it faces the proper direction.
This is a great introduction but in our India very rear this kar 98 k mauser
Say again? Rare?
Now these rifles cost like 1k+ what a time to live in!
The 98's are a tough rifle to see the sights. Gotta have really good eye sight. Their nice rifles but not for the prices these days.
Your so right. My K98 is the worst MilSurp I have to see the sights. I love my K98's but the Mosin or Enfield has better sights.
@@Dan-sq5cv I use MoJo rear sites on my Mauser's because they don't bubba the rifle and work way better than OEM sights.
@@MegaBait1616 Thanks I will check them out. I am to ols for those littel Mauser sites.
@@Dan-sq5cv they work great for all milsurp's.
@@Dan-sq5cv Mauser sights are the worst. Anyone who says they get 1 moa at 100 to 200 yards with any ole milsurp rifle and iron sights are full of shxx. With over 50 years shooting milsurps I never got 1 moa distance shooting even when I had better than 20/20 eye sight. I even hand load to each rifle. Most used corrisive ammo, primers except for the Swiss. Although I have a Yugo M48A which is basically a new rifle with a S&K mount and a scout scope that gets close. Most K98's have a great action built like a tank but have dark bores. And I have a few nice ones but sighting them at 100-200 yards is a bitch. lol. Good luck :)
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I'd love to buy one of your swedish mauser rifles
Vulcan Refinishing can and has restored those to make them look like a complete matching numbers rifle. He has the laser markings and you chose the new matching numbers. This guy is so good he replicates the damn machining marks.
Sounds like ruining history
These go for around a grand up here in Canada. Count yourself lucky that you can get them for $500
All you'll get for $500 is a turd, decent rifle will be around $800
I don’t really think it’s any mystery as to why the Soviets would refurbish and store hundreds of thousands if not millions of captured rifles. We have to remember that although the AK was designed in 47, it wouldn’t actually see widespread adoption until the 60s and the K98 would make a fine rear echelon rifle if the need arose. Best not to relive the small arms shortage of 1941 again.
Hell yes!!!
Never could figure out why the Russians sanded a huge chunk out of the Butt stock before stamping the serial #.
$1600.00 CDN now... argh
I've got two of these capture rifles...to me they have a TON more provenance than their non 'X' marked counterparts...the Soviets were terrible pack rats...thankfully for us collectors in the post Soviet era...I have a prize Mauser in my collection.. 1916 Spandau manufactured Gew 98....it was one of the early rifles that Hitler ordered converted to the new Kar98k model before illegally manufacturing new rifles in contravention of the Versailles treaty...it survived the Great WAR, the Weimar republic, the second World war and 'bubba' in the states..if it was made in 1916 it survived some of the worst fighting/destruction...I love those Soviet Captures...if only they could talk...
In 1968 my father bought ten K98ks for $28.50 each; ten bayonets for them for $3.50 each; and, 1000 rounds of 8mm ball ammo for $50. He ordered by mail from a company called Century Arms located in St Albans, Vermont. I was 14 at the time and remember him saying the prices of these guns will more than double in the future.
Soooo wheres the warehouse..?
I'm by no means an expert on mausers, so i could be wrong, but its my understanding that when a RC 98k has its swastika's scratched off, it was generally due to the proxy countries that got issued them not wanting to be using a gun with nazi marks on it, so if your's does its likely it saw combat or at least a second service life outside of the wehrmacht
got mine at an auction for 450 at the hammer, '36 receiver s/243 with 3 commercial marks and only 1 waffenamp. import stamp on the barrel edge from VA, bolt force match and a pretty heavy black-oxide finish on the metal. i'd prefer the original german look of the wood but i actually dont mind the shellac as much, its a fairly nice red imo. Funny thing too, the russians put the sight on upside down as well, so the notch was on the bottom instead of the top when i first got it
Overall a pretty solid quality rc, based on its condition it probably just sat in storage after its work was done. insanely glad to have it, even if its expensive as hell to shoot and find ammo for it.
What's the deal with the bolt release and extractor being purple with RCs?
A guys can you tell me where are those $400 k98 mauser’s
I have 1942 numbers match. No butt number on the stock. My Dad got it after the war for fifteen dollars. What’s it worth?
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What’s up with Yugo captures? Same?
Great video, mate
Did all RC’s have the cross rifles/X stamped on to them?
No. And not all have pinged swastikas.
Also check the bore. Some are counterbored and some are not.
nope - mine has a Russian wreath/star pinged over the proof on the receiver but it is still visible and also untouched in other places -- PLUS the stock is great and not shellacked.
5:00 I think they didn't add them back because to them it wasn't worth the time and effort. The rifles still functioned just fine without those parts so they weren't necessary.
When you said the price was 600 bones I knew this video was a couple years old. Most RC guns in poor condition with all stamps removed will fetch at least 1000$ on GB or local listings.
I don't look down on these ya they may not be matching but people pay big money for supposed "action" K98k but you can get a Russian capture that was pretty much guaranteed to have seen action because most were probably captured on the eastern front, I've had some they shoot great and most bores are excellent on these captures or the Russians would have discarded a bad bore
Some were counterbored by the Soviets to save the barrel. Some were not. Something to keep in mind when looking at one to buy.
Saw a 1938 K98 42 all matching including stock. Everything was intact but on the left side of barrel where it meets the receiver 3 german eagles with swatz but a small stamped Star on the barrel. The stock and rest of gun does not look like a russian caputure as its bluing is pretty worn, no shellac on stock and no scribes on bolt or stock.
Just don't remember the Germans stamping a Star on guns.
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@@timdupertuis9954 No I read the French put Stars on them.
I remember when those rifles were selling for $40
I actually own an MG53, with alot of parts that have this electro penciling on them.
this mean all these parts where WW2 MG42 parts, captured, then given to the Yugoslavians who used them in the production of the MG53
My MG53 also does NOT have a yugo crest on top
Interesting...
@@antony9956 interesting indeed, spend hours upon hours trying to figure out what it meant
It's not "Yugoslavian", the proper adjective is *Yugoslav
Best bolt action rifle of WW2 . The 303 cartridge alone makes that rifle trash needless to say the safety , a real man killer ,that is the man carrying the 303 .
Good video Sir🇺🇸
Do you have a video about/showing a ‘shooter kit’ install for a K43? I have two and want to outfit one. Also, who you would recommend buying the kit through?
Thanks from mountainy Idaho🇺🇸
Get a full shooters kit from Frontline Militaria. They sell comprehensive G43 gas system kits vs. a simple gas regulator.
These are $1700 in Canada!
I have a gun store near me that’s selling a K98 Captured for 1600…that’s way to high right?
Where do i find an authentic one with reasonable price?
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I have a Russian capture K98k which I purchased about 12 years ago. It is marked S/42G . From my research this is a date of 1935. I think this is the first year that the K98k was made for the German Army. Receiver and barrel match. The rest is mixed numbers. Metal and wood are in pretty good condition. Do you have any idea what this rifle would be worth ? Just curious. Thank you for any info you can provide.
Being a G date it's probably worth a hundred or so more than a standard RC to the right collector.
Thank You for the info !!
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In Canada now those are 1000$ guns..
Super informative vid, well done!!!
Mine has pitting and the bore never comes clean. Not very accurate. What can be done with it
Electro-cleaning.
They exist because not everybody can afford mint numbers matching rifles or want one. I have 3 rc k98. Paid 250 apiece years ago when they were being imported after the supply of regular k98 dried up. An rc k98 has an extra layer of history to it. Occasionally both show up at the pawn shop or consignment rack. The last rc k98 I saw was 650 and an original numbers matching late war k98 was 1600. On the rc k98 some had the german stamps peened out some did not. Also look at the bore. Some have original bores and some are counterbored. Historic rifle from Nazi Germany and rearsenaled by communist Soviet Union. Both entities no longer exist.
Ah really? Man... 0:25
I completely disagree with the closing few seconds of your video where you stated that you can be rough with them and ding them up because it won’t be a huge historical loss. I sincerely don’t understand why so many people have this attitude towards Russian Capture K98’s. It’s truly sad to me. I mean no offense but have you ever heard of Die Ostfront? Not to mention the rifles capture, refurbishment, and re-purposing by the Soviets. Tons of history there.
I concur
huge historical loss?
@@nothanks3590 is that directed at me or the video?
@@GreetingsandSalutations4007 you. there is no historical value in these guns. you are confusing historical value with collectable value.
@@nothanks3590 you are incorrect. These guns literally experienced WW2 on the Eastern Front and then experienced Soviet refurbishment and storage. That is historical value whether you like it or not. And I’m not confusing anything. Historical value is collectible value. And besides; who are you to judge that these guns have no historical value? You’re not the proprietor of anything. And telling me to “grow up” who pissed in your Cheerios😂😂
If I find one at a good price with a nice bore, I will buy it. I buy rifles to shoot them not to have them collecting dust in a safe. Now, I would never pay more than a $600 for a surplus bolt action rifle. I have seen a K-98 at $2500 and $3500, whoever pay so much are idiots. A Spanish, Swedish and Turkish Mauser do the same job for less.
Goid vid man thank you
Hey can some one help me value a k98? As i know nothing about them really. Not as much as you guys probably do! Im in canada here and no one really knows them well
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I seen one of these at a pawnshop a few years back going for $100. Had the Nazi insignia as well.
Then it wasn't a Russian capture. The Russians defaced the insignia on all their captured rifles.
@@chuckschillingvideos I know but it was still a awesome find. I wonder if they even knew what they had or if they were selling it for cheap because it was pretty rusted and worn.
@@chuckschillingvideos no that’s not true you’re thinking of Yugoslavian. Russians left the markings alone for the most part. I have had multiple RCs and they have all had markings. It’s actually uncommon to find RCs peened off
Good luck finding an original matching k98
I've been lucky
Here's another fun thing... How many k98ks did Don Mitchell get? Supposedly he went into business in 2002? And it took him 15 years to sell out of them? He must have had quite a few!!
Yeah fuck that guy, took probably thousands of K98k's and bubba'd/fucked them.
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Sight hoods, capture screws, cleaning rods weren't considered necessary items for a good combat rifle so they didn't bother putting them back after cleaning and refinancing them. They Soviet military doctrine was arm as many people as possible in the event of war. An obsolete rifle is better than no rifle at all especially if the new semi and full auto rifles didn't work out or couldn't be produced fast enough. The Red Army captured several million K98k rifles and several tons of ammunition. So why let all that free stuff go to waste. The Germans did the same thing with all of the captured weapons from the conquered countries.