I don't buy that he's Luffy's mom but I do think he used to be a woman. I just don't see what else this "embarrassing secret" could be when it involves Ivankov of all people.
@stardmg the thing about luffy's mom is speculated around due to the SPOILER During Marineford arc when Crocodile learned that luffy is Dragon's son he started acting overprotective over Luffy. Saved like 4 times even when he totally didn't have to
@@masterlom99 that's not all. He always called luffy as "strawhat". He didn't know his full name. So he couldnt have connected luffy to dragon. Back in alabasta. So that's why luffy was just another nuisance to him. Spoiler As soon as croc finds out luffy's dad name, he aids luffy, saves ace, then saved jinbei and luffy against akainu...what the hell? And all that under the cover of "I just don't wanna let the navy win. Im on no one's side" And the "Mr" and "sir" suffix before his name. Oda trying too hard to make us think he is male lmao. And the fact that ivankov is connected to both dragon and croc. Did he see them together at some point? Imagine he walked into the room while dragon and croc were making out like gay...lmao. then iva turned croc into a woman to hide dragon"s gay fantasies from others. Hahahahaha... I support this theory. If it fails, it's fine. But it's very very interesting.
The Crocomon/dad theory has been a meme in the comunity for a long time. And also is interesting to remember that Baroque Works is a very gender based organization and that Croc made an exception for Bon-chan,a queer man. Now for One Piece at a time: Originaly Inazuma was supposed to have just a crab zoan fruit, but Oda liked the idea of his current fruit better
He didn't really make an exception, Bon Clay is an okama and thus fills two gendered agent roles simultaneously. Mr. 2 being the male designation and Bon Kurei the female. Bon Kurei, or Obon, is a Japanese festival that honors the spirits of the deceased.
@@hughmungus8701 The point OP makes ist that it is interesting, that Crocodile made an execption, not putting 1 female person and 1 male person at spot 2, like all the other spots. It is interesting since not everybody might accept such an exception, but it could have to do with Crocodiles past, that he gaf about this.
If we ever find out that Crocodile, like Luffy, got his scar by trying and missing to cut his own eyes out, we won't even need a paternity test anymore.
@@westsidebear nono hear him out. he wanted to join whitebeard's ship so bad, he did it to prove himself. So whitebeard inspiring him gave him the scar.
@@nobodyjustme7481 It shouldn't because it's assumed he doesn't have a devil fruit, he never used it to fight and One Piece always showcases their fruit in their first combat.
Crocodile is canonically 44 years old at that time in One Piece, and Luffy is 17. So age-wise he could very well be one of Luffy's parents (or have an adolescent child in general)
I refuse to accept any other voice actor voicing Crocodile. The laugh, the tone. So iconic. When it's that iconic, you can even replay the exact same voice, same tone in your head. "Hisashiburi dana Mugiwara".
The basis of your theories being that Garp said "Kid's kid" is funny to me because knowing that in my language grandparents address their grand children like that and I always find some similarities between Japanese and the African language I speak
Jinbe has no Devil Fruit powers, so his shackles were probably just super-reinforced metal or something. I think it's implied Sea Prism Stone is expensive and hard to manufacture so they only use it when necessary.
@ yeah they can SPOILER way later in Dressrosa Luffy complains that it's difficult trying to unlock Law's cuffs because they're Sea Prism Stone and him and Viola get weak touching it
Your comments about Crocodile as a villain only being allowed to be *so* strong, and he cant be as strong as he *should* be, are 100% correct. I think Oda's even commented in hindsight he regrets having Luffy beat Crocodile so soon. IMO the upcoming episodes will give a much more accurate depiction of where Crocodile sits power-wise.
"Sashiburi dana... Mugiwara..." Love this VA performance for Crocodile 🧡 also the theory of Luffy's mom is Dragon because of Ivan and Crocodile is his dad is sooo funny that I can't even deny it 😭🤣
Although I don't understand the community's (apparently natural) assumption that Crocodile is Luffy's parent, I will forever cherish the sheer ridiculousness of the concept.
Its kind of funny how even with them theorizing Crocodile might have been a woman, and theorizing that Crocodile and Dragon could have been together at one point, they didn’t theorize Crocodile being a woman while with Dragon. Most theorize that Crocodile was a woman with Dragon, and they had Luffy. Y'all were thinking so hard that you missed the easy answer.
They were regular chains. We find out later in the series that indeed, sea prism stone is immune to Devil Fruit powers (during Dressrosa). They didn't use sea prism on Jinbe because he doesn't have a DF. It is that simple
@@alexandrejosedacostaneto381the original comment explains it that way bc its not explicitly said in the anime hence a spoiler. u should also do the same while commenting on a reactors vid
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There's a popular fan theory that Crocodile is Luffy's mom, but I think it would make way more sense for the character if he was a gutter rat woman who got her hand cut off from stealing. Completely abused and lacking confidence and she meets Ivankov who gives her "power" by changing her into a man. Crocodile goes on to become a confident, macho Mafia boss whose past makes him uncaring about the atrocities he is committing. Maybe in the end, Crocodile is changed back and has to come to terms with his/her past and confidence
This part of the Paramount War Saga is the closest One Piece came to being Dragon Ball. Like, classic villains allying with the main character for a common cause or by pure chance of life or just comedy and it's awesome. A rubber monkey, a sand crocodile, a whale shark, a separable clown, a candle man, two transvestite (One is a ballerina who changes appearances and the other gives hormones) escaping from a prison guarded by a poison demon who has diarrhea problems. What mushrooms will Oda consume to create these premises? 😂🍄
As an ao3 enjoyer let me tell you that every single fic in the tag “Crocodile is Monkey D. Luffy's Parent” goes UNREASONABLY hard. That is my agenda piece. I’m 100% a crocoparent truther.
Crocodile is 44 as of Impel Down. So he would have been 27 when Luffy was born. Crocodile being Luffy's _mom_ is an old theory/joke at this point. Him being Luffy's dad is a new one :P My guess for Crocodile's hand being gone would be Whitebeard - he clearly has some kind of a grudge against the old man after all.
Crocodile saying "Mugiwara", chills. I'm happy that when Luffy was against freeing him cause of Alabasta you mentioned Luffy being friends with Bon Clay. We like him because of how much he's helping Luffy, but he was happily helping Crocodile start a civil war that killed a lot of people😅
bear in mind THAT'S not the reason luffy is against him joining. again, luffy doesn't actually care about alabasta, its too big a concept for him to really grasp. He's made because Crocodile tried to harm something precious to Vivi, Luffy's friend. this is part of why i always say that luffy's morality isn't simply 'good', its a little more complicated.
@sarafontanini7051 which is something Bon Clay also did, he was fully involved in what they were doing to Vivi's country. I agree that we can't put Luffy's morality strictly in the "always doing the right thing" side. We could say that he's a selfish character, who's selfishness tends to help others.
@@IamGrimalkin i mean that Luffy often does things for "selfish" reasons. He helps those he likes for a reason or another, but rarely he cares about the bigger picture or how his actions could impact others. Example, it's incredible how much he's risking his own life to save his brother, on the other side, how many incredibly awful people did he end up releasing to do it? Still, his "selfishness" usually ends up helping everybody.
@@bluelight17 He didn't release any awful people at all. Ivankov, Buggy and Blackbeard were the ones who released the prisoners. Luffy wanted Jimbei released, but beyond that he just ran off on his own. You could say him misleading Ivankov about Ace's relation to Dragon ultimately caused a load of prisoners to be released, but Luffy had no intention of misleading him. If Ivankov had asked Ace's biological father Luffy would have told him. In terms of the other three, Ivankov did so for the 'greater good' of the Recolution he thought was coming, Buggy did so because he thought it would help him escape and Blackbeard did so because lol he felt like it.
I've been wondering about Inazuma's ability for a while myself, but I don't think Jinbe's cuffs (specifically) are sea prism stone. They don't have an unlimited supply, after all. If they did, Buggy wouldn't have snuck out due to that clerical error where they thought he had no DF ability.
on patreon they're already in Marineford so its safe to say that Jinbei doesnt have DF powers bc he could swim in the ocean while breaking out of Impel Down, meaning those cuffs werent made of sea prism stone
I wonder why for Croco's past speculations firts option is not the exact case for another shichi, Boa. Then, Mr.0 (and Moria) as an antogonist also had big dreams until they met their biggest defeat and they didn'r recover like Luffy. Remember what they said? "The world is too big and cruel". That's why they need the biggest weapons. Croco's hate on WB, his scar and missing arm tell a lot about his motives.
They let Crocodile keep his hook because he's not a threat to Magellan. They're all bound in sea prism chains deep within a prison in a level that only a few people know exist. He ain't doing anything.
Ah, Crocodile's secret past.... a popular topic among the fanbase, even after all these years! 😉 Anyway, that scene with Jinbei's attack was always my favorite example of the anime taking full advantage of glacial pacing, lol. 😂
Level 6 is for the worst of the worst. Most of the inmates there are so powerful that torture and abuse basically doesn’t work. Look at how Jimbei tanked a beating from their top guard without even breaking a sweat.
Yes, Oda does put effort into giving himself creative liberties. Hence why things arent overexplained and loaded with restrictions like some other series.
since they're on Marineford already (patreon) its safe to say that Jinbei doesnt have DF powers bc he could swim in the ocean while escaping Impel Down, hence he didnt have sea prism stone handcuffs on him
Cover story lore, idk if this is considered a spoiler or not since this stuff would have happened before this anime moment but…. …. …. … In cover stories, I don’t remember when it happens but before this moment, the members of Barque works that didn’t get arrested (The little girl, Ms double finger, Mr 4, and I think Ms All Christmas) broke into Impel Down and broke out a few members, Mr 1 and Crocodile didn’t want to go for some reason, so they got left behind and joined Luffy instead.
I feel that the reason Mr. 1 and Croco boy didn't leave was because if they left the Marines would chase them more fiercely. The reason Zoro got his first bounty before the rest of the crew was for beating all of Whisky Peak AND beating Daz Bones specifically. To me this implies that Daz had a bigger reputation before joining Baroque Works than the other members, and thus would be a bigger deal to lose, so Croc and Daz let them leave without them
Reading one piece for more than 15 years, Impel down for me is top 5 arc in one piece The tension, the world building, the ending, everything about it is a top tier level writing
Your theories are contradictory. If Luffy and Ace are half-brothers as you suggested, and Ace took his last name from his mother, wouldn't that make Dragon a man? Ace never stated that Luffy took his name from his mother. Furthermore, if Dragon was a woman, why did Garp tell Luffy he heard that Luffy met his 'old man '? This implies Dragon is Luffy's father, not mother. If you suggest that Luffy has two fathers and no mother, why did Garp exclusively refer to Dragon as 'your old man ' and not use phrases like 'one of your parents' or 'one of your dads'? You emphasized Ivankov's Hormone Fruit, suggesting a significant reason for their sex-changing ability. However, the reason is evident: they are the 'Queen of the Queers,' part of the Revolutionary Army fighting for freedom, and represent the LGBTQ+ community seeking their own freedom. I point this out knowing you've seen episode 459, where Ace's father is revealed.
random theory since last episode we were talking about invanka's help (maybe crocodile used to be a woman) idk idk yall started t6his thoughtt process lol i really didnt realize the tatical advantage of invanka until you guys started really talking about how much that could change things...
You guys are actually right about crocodile being weaker when he faced luffy due to writing and oda has confirmed that he regrets adding and using crocodile so early in the story and hinting that he is more powerful
tbf Crocodile beat Luffy twice, i never perseved him as being weak at all. Took Luffy 3 tries, and without Robin he would've also died bc of Croc's poison
I love that Ivankov can just tell who's a closeted trans person just by looking at them, it explains why so few prisoners are in level 5.5, ivakov realised they wouldn't take to his idea of paradise and so left them alone
Jimbei doesnt have a Devil Fruit, Sea Prism Stone is still a rare material in the world so it is reserved for KNOWN devil fruit users, this is how Buggy escaped because they thought he was just a fodder pirate with no powers
It's Croco-mom time! Except Crocodile knew Luffy's full name during Alabasta... except Ivankov didn't put it together based on Luffys name so maybe nobody knows Dragon's full name... except Kuma apparently knew immediately. Can anyone help untangle this?
Dragons last name isnt known. If it was people would have easilly connected him to Garp. But as was shown. Low ranking Marines didn't know or even connect him to Dragon.
@Cyrinil142 no one knew Dragon's last name, even his army and Ivankov. It became known only after garp said it. So crocodile had no idea he was fighting her son
@@sarafontanini7051 Well the argument would be that Crocodile wouldn't know about Luffy's relationship to Dragon at the time. But that would require the people closest to Dragon not to know his full name.
And now here is the legendary crocodile is luffy's mom theory
I don't buy that he's Luffy's mom but I do think he used to be a woman. I just don't see what else this "embarrassing secret" could be when it involves Ivankov of all people.
@stardmg the thing about luffy's mom is speculated around due to the SPOILER
During Marineford arc when Crocodile learned that luffy is Dragon's son he started acting overprotective over Luffy. Saved like 4 times even when he totally didn't have to
@@masterlom99 that's not all. He always called luffy as "strawhat". He didn't know his full name. So he couldnt have connected luffy to dragon. Back in alabasta.
So that's why luffy was just another nuisance to him.
Spoiler
As soon as croc finds out luffy's dad name, he aids luffy, saves ace, then saved jinbei and luffy against akainu...what the hell?
And all that under the cover of "I just don't wanna let the navy win. Im on no one's side"
And the "Mr" and "sir" suffix before his name. Oda trying too hard to make us think he is male lmao.
And the fact that ivankov is connected to both dragon and croc. Did he see them together at some point? Imagine he walked into the room while dragon and croc were making out like gay...lmao. then iva turned croc into a woman to hide dragon"s gay fantasies from others. Hahahahaha...
I support this theory. If it fails, it's fine. But it's very very interesting.
@@masterlom99also, iirc, Oda said in an sbs that Luffy’s mom has been seen multiple times (aka not a nameless background person)
Stupid Theory ass
The Crocomon/dad theory has been a meme in the comunity for a long time.
And also is interesting to remember that Baroque Works is a very gender based organization and that Croc made an exception for Bon-chan,a queer man.
Now for One Piece at a time:
Originaly Inazuma was supposed to have just a crab zoan fruit, but Oda liked the idea of his current fruit better
honestly yeah, much more creative and explains the demoning away better
He didn't really make an exception, Bon Clay is an okama and thus fills two gendered agent roles simultaneously. Mr. 2 being the male designation and Bon Kurei the female.
Bon Kurei, or Obon, is a Japanese festival that honors the spirits of the deceased.
@@hughmungus8701 The point OP makes ist that it is interesting, that Crocodile made an execption, not putting 1 female person and 1 male person at spot 2, like all the other spots. It is interesting since not everybody might accept such an exception, but it could have to do with Crocodiles past, that he gaf about this.
Dragon dad, Croco mom theory ❌
Croco dad, Dragon mom theory ✅
Ah yes, my favorite theory from the Bible yes
i was just about to comment this lol garp forget he got a daughter not a son
If we ever find out that Crocodile, like Luffy, got his scar by trying and missing to cut his own eyes out, we won't even need a paternity test anymore.
@ croc’s scar is from Whitebeard lil bro
@@westsidebear nono hear him out. he wanted to join whitebeard's ship so bad, he did it to prove himself. So whitebeard inspiring him gave him the scar.
I understand the confusion because you haven't seen him outside of prison yet but Jimbe's cuffs weren't sea prism, he doesn't have a devil fruit.
Yea, that's not a sea prism. But let's not mention what kind of cuff is that because it contains spoilers.
@@nobodyjustme7481 what kind
@@nobodyjustme7481 It shouldn't because it's assumed he doesn't have a devil fruit, he never used it to fight and One Piece always showcases their fruit in their first combat.
@@alexfielding7191 It's not assumed he doesn't, it's a known fact he doesn't. He is seen swimming repeatedly
I have honestly never seen people go to such great lengths to overly complicate that Luffy is Dragon's son and that Dragon is Luffy's father.
I love it.
Have you not been in the one piece fandom the past 20 year bruh 😂 crocodile being Luffy’s mom is like a theory from over 15 years bruh 😂
@@bander-Coolband it’s fucking dumb
Oh honey do I have news for you
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Crocodile is canonically 44 years old at that time in One Piece, and Luffy is 17. So age-wise he could very well be one of Luffy's parents (or have an adolescent child in general)
I refuse to accept any other voice actor voicing Crocodile. The laugh, the tone. So iconic.
When it's that iconic, you can even replay the exact same voice, same tone in your head.
"Hisashiburi dana Mugiwara".
It was so good to hear him back recently in the show and his iconic SAAAABLES in the attack against marines with Mistah 1.
The basis of your theories being that Garp said "Kid's kid" is funny to me because knowing that in my language grandparents address their grand children like that and I always find some similarities between Japanese and the African language I speak
Seeing someone in real time organically come close to coming up with the crocomom theory is mind blowing
Jinbe has no Devil Fruit powers, so his shackles were probably just super-reinforced metal or something. I think it's implied Sea Prism Stone is expensive and hard to manufacture so they only use it when necessary.
Oh yea true no DF
This is how buggy escaped, they didn’t know he had a DF so wasn’t kept with sea prism.
How about when he's picking the lock of the cage? I guess they can resist weakening if it's minimal contact.
@ yeah they can
SPOILER
way later in Dressrosa Luffy complains that it's difficult trying to unlock Law's cuffs because they're Sea Prism Stone and him and Viola get weak touching it
Your comments about Crocodile as a villain only being allowed to be *so* strong, and he cant be as strong as he *should* be, are 100% correct. I think Oda's even commented in hindsight he regrets having Luffy beat Crocodile so soon. IMO the upcoming episodes will give a much more accurate depiction of where Crocodile sits power-wise.
"Sashiburi dana... Mugiwara..." Love this VA performance for Crocodile 🧡 also the theory of Luffy's mom is Dragon because of Ivan and Crocodile is his dad is sooo funny that I can't even deny it 😭🤣
Crocodile's got style, epic voice and the chances of him being a mommy is incredible
Luffy, his mom and Jimbei is another level of trioness I've seen so far ❤
10:33 that shot of Ace looking at the bird, that's free unlike him actually made me kinda sad. I hadn't ever noticed it.
Croco boy will never get back against the croco mom allegations😂
Although I don't understand the community's (apparently natural) assumption that Crocodile is Luffy's parent, I will forever cherish the sheer ridiculousness of the concept.
Its kind of funny how even with them theorizing Crocodile might have been a woman, and theorizing that Crocodile and Dragon could have been together at one point, they didn’t theorize Crocodile being a woman while with Dragon. Most theorize that Crocodile was a woman with Dragon, and they had Luffy.
Y'all were thinking so hard that you missed the easy answer.
3:46 now now Carson, dont deny your hidden inclination to atleast try that Female Hormone by Ivan once..
I’m dead looking at this comment😂😂😂
21:12 Devil Fruits aren't very popular among Fishmen because of that one drawback, so those might've been just regular chains.
They were regular chains. We find out later in the series that indeed, sea prism stone is immune to Devil Fruit powers (during Dressrosa). They didn't use sea prism on Jinbe because he doesn't have a DF. It is that simple
@@alexandrejosedacostaneto381the original comment explains it that way bc its not explicitly said in the anime hence a spoiler. u should also do the same while commenting on a reactors vid
Tearing your own hands off just to escape prison is a bit of a stretch.
"each theory just tripled in length"
This is part of why I'm obsessively on love with this series.
That 'Hisashiburi dana ... Mugiwara' is iconic.
Just comparable "Ore no na wa DONQUIXOTE DOFLAMINGO!!! "
Crocodad? Lmao didn’t see that one coming. Good discussion as always
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There's a popular fan theory that Crocodile is Luffy's mom, but I think it would make way more sense for the character if he was a gutter rat woman who got her hand cut off from stealing. Completely abused and lacking confidence and she meets Ivankov who gives her "power" by changing her into a man.
Crocodile goes on to become a confident, macho Mafia boss whose past makes him uncaring about the atrocities he is committing. Maybe in the end, Crocodile is changed back and has to come to terms with his/her past and confidence
This part of the Paramount War Saga is the closest One Piece came to being Dragon Ball. Like, classic villains allying with the main character for a common cause or by pure chance of life or just comedy and it's awesome. A rubber monkey, a sand crocodile, a whale shark, a separable clown, a candle man, two transvestite (One is a ballerina who changes appearances and the other gives hormones) escaping from a prison guarded by a poison demon who has diarrhea problems. What mushrooms will Oda consume to create these premises? 😂🍄
As an ao3 enjoyer let me tell you that every single fic in the tag “Crocodile is Monkey D. Luffy's Parent” goes UNREASONABLY hard. That is my agenda piece. I’m 100% a crocoparent truther.
Recommend me some good sanji nami fics where they aren't out of character.
@@307nishchay8 Impossible, the very nature of the ship requires it.
One piece theories goes crazyyyyyy😂
This is where the crocomom theory came from.
The Croco-dad theory is new to me. Also rewatch the Roger execution scene in the live action and look for cameos
They should do that after watching Episode 0.
@@szonin1961yeah, everything after ep0 would go haaaard
Croc so drippy that the first thing he does is change into his fit from the prison clothes .
Level 6 of Impel is the eternal hell of boredom. It's for prisoners who are too strong to be affected by the extreme conditions of the lower levels
Crocodile's return is so iconic. I love it.
21:26 Jinbei doesnt have a DF power, so he doesnt need to be bound in Seastone
Well level 6 has a bunch of villains we never know about like what Ivan says before, so I think its the most dangerous level of all in Impel Down.
they should have recruted Pizarro, Devon or San Juan before Blackbeard did. They could have been useful for the ImpelDown Breakout.
its the ultimate punishment....of being FORGOTTEN
34:02 funnily enough this is kinda a popular joke theory but the other way around. Where Croc was the who birthed Luffy lol
Oh boy heres the Croco mon theory back again,dear God that theory will never go away.
Crocodile is 44 as of Impel Down. So he would have been 27 when Luffy was born.
Crocodile being Luffy's _mom_ is an old theory/joke at this point. Him being Luffy's dad is a new one :P
My guess for Crocodile's hand being gone would be Whitebeard - he clearly has some kind of a grudge against the old man after all.
I love how reactors watch one piece and theorizes about Crocodile and Luffy maybe related 😂 I mean come on you never know 🤷♀️
The best "hisashiburidana" in one piece 😅
Hisashiburidanaaaa! Mugiwara
Legendary!! 12:39
Jimbe and Crocodile are definite highlights.
Crocodile saying "Mugiwara", chills. I'm happy that when Luffy was against freeing him cause of Alabasta you mentioned Luffy being friends with Bon Clay. We like him because of how much he's helping Luffy, but he was happily helping Crocodile start a civil war that killed a lot of people😅
bear in mind THAT'S not the reason luffy is against him joining. again, luffy doesn't actually care about alabasta, its too big a concept for him to really grasp. He's made because Crocodile tried to harm something precious to Vivi, Luffy's friend.
this is part of why i always say that luffy's morality isn't simply 'good', its a little more complicated.
@sarafontanini7051 which is something Bon Clay also did, he was fully involved in what they were doing to Vivi's country. I agree that we can't put Luffy's morality strictly in the "always doing the right thing" side. We could say that he's a selfish character, who's selfishness tends to help others.
@@bluelight17 It's not selfish to be concerned about your friends.
He just thinks about personal stakes over large-scale stakes.
@@IamGrimalkin i mean that Luffy often does things for "selfish" reasons. He helps those he likes for a reason or another, but rarely he cares about the bigger picture or how his actions could impact others. Example, it's incredible how much he's risking his own life to save his brother, on the other side, how many incredibly awful people did he end up releasing to do it? Still, his "selfishness" usually ends up helping everybody.
@@bluelight17
He didn't release any awful people at all.
Ivankov, Buggy and Blackbeard were the ones who released the prisoners.
Luffy wanted Jimbei released, but beyond that he just ran off on his own.
You could say him misleading Ivankov about Ace's relation to Dragon ultimately caused a load of prisoners to be released, but Luffy had no intention of misleading him. If Ivankov had asked Ace's biological father Luffy would have told him.
In terms of the other three, Ivankov did so for the 'greater good' of the Recolution he thought was coming, Buggy did so because he thought it would help him escape and Blackbeard did so because lol he felt like it.
Everyone theorized croco boy is luffys mom and you guys theorized crocodile is his dad 🤣
They didn’t just let him keep it, they either replaced the hook or fixed it as Lucy broke it in their fight 😂
I've been wondering about Inazuma's ability for a while myself, but I don't think Jinbe's cuffs (specifically) are sea prism stone. They don't have an unlimited supply, after all. If they did, Buggy wouldn't have snuck out due to that clerical error where they thought he had no DF ability.
on patreon they're already in Marineford so its safe to say that Jinbei doesnt have DF powers bc he could swim in the ocean while breaking out of Impel Down, meaning those cuffs werent made of sea prism stone
It's fun to see what One Piece is doing to Carson's brain
My head canon for Croc keeping his hook is that it's actually attached to his arm... like Axe-Hand Morgan.
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I wonder why for Croco's past speculations firts option is not the exact case for another shichi, Boa. Then, Mr.0 (and Moria) as an antogonist also had big dreams until they met their biggest defeat and they didn'r recover like Luffy. Remember what they said? "The world is too big and cruel". That's why they need the biggest weapons. Croco's hate on WB, his scar and missing arm tell a lot about his motives.
They let Crocodile keep his hook because he's not a threat to Magellan. They're all bound in sea prism chains deep within a prison in a level that only a few people know exist. He ain't doing anything.
Ah, Crocodile's secret past.... a popular topic among the fanbase, even after all these years! 😉
Anyway, that scene with Jinbei's attack was always my favorite example of the anime taking full advantage of glacial pacing, lol. 😂
12:15 he still doesn't know how Crocodile's powers work lmao.
18:37 crazy 😂😂
Level 6 is for the worst of the worst. Most of the inmates there are so powerful that torture and abuse basically doesn’t work. Look at how Jimbei tanked a beating from their top guard without even breaking a sweat.
its punishment is essentially locked someone there and throwing the key away and keeping them there long enough that everyone forgets they even exist
Yes, Oda does put effort into giving himself creative liberties. Hence why things arent overexplained and loaded with restrictions like some other series.
Issashiburi dana~ Mugiwara~
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In japanese version Ivankov never talk about "crocodile secret" bue she only talk about of "crocodile weakness". Traslation problem
Bruh, I can't believe they eureka'd into the croco mom theory
I thought thats an obvious clue that Jimbe is not a devil fruit user
since they're on Marineford already (patreon) its safe to say that Jinbei doesnt have DF powers bc he could swim in the ocean while escaping Impel Down, hence he didnt have sea prism stone handcuffs on him
Crocodile was a woman. Rewatch the beginning of One Piece Live Action during the execution of Roger. You'll see 'him' in the crowd.
Cover story lore, idk if this is considered a spoiler or not since this stuff would have happened before this anime moment but….
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In cover stories, I don’t remember when it happens but before this moment, the members of Barque works that didn’t get arrested (The little girl, Ms double finger, Mr 4, and I think Ms All Christmas) broke into Impel Down and broke out a few members, Mr 1 and Crocodile didn’t want to go for some reason, so they got left behind and joined Luffy instead.
not in impel down, they broke into a prison ship taking them to impel down
I feel that the reason Mr. 1 and Croco boy didn't leave was because if they left the Marines would chase them more fiercely.
The reason Zoro got his first bounty before the rest of the crew was for beating all of Whisky Peak AND beating Daz Bones specifically. To me this implies that Daz had a bigger reputation before joining Baroque Works than the other members, and thus would be a bigger deal to lose, so Croc and Daz let them leave without them
Reading one piece for more than 15 years, Impel down for me is top 5 arc in one piece
The tension, the world building, the ending, everything about it is a top tier level writing
Most of level 6 villains were erased from history! Because they were that dangerous
I love how Oda dangles the answet over our eyeels for years
They keep forgetting that these "no-name losers" from Level 6 could solo the entire Strawhat crew
Yea
Crocoparent theory is just so inherent lmfaooo
Chopping off limbs to escape? :D
16:06
Cut off your limbs you say?
To escape impel down?
Crazy talk
next you'll tell me you can jsut float out of there like some sort....float float man
It would really take a courage of a lion, even if they got the golden opportunity to try such a feat.
He'd have to be pretty brave to cook something like that up. There could be nothing chickenlike about him.
Your theories are contradictory. If Luffy and Ace are half-brothers as you suggested, and Ace took his last name from his mother, wouldn't that make Dragon a man? Ace never stated that Luffy took his name from his mother.
Furthermore, if Dragon was a woman, why did Garp tell Luffy he heard that Luffy met his 'old man '? This implies Dragon is Luffy's father, not mother.
If you suggest that Luffy has two fathers and no mother, why did Garp exclusively refer to Dragon as 'your old man ' and not use phrases like 'one of your parents' or 'one of your dads'?
You emphasized Ivankov's Hormone Fruit, suggesting a significant reason for their sex-changing ability. However, the reason is evident: they are the 'Queen of the Queers,' part of the Revolutionary Army fighting for freedom, and represent the LGBTQ+ community seeking their own freedom.
I point this out knowing you've seen episode 459, where Ace's father is revealed.
WE GOT THERE
CROCODAD
ZEHAHAHA 🔥💀🔥
I’m happy that you guys can now finally join in on the dumb Croco Mom theory lol
Dumb? I've reading this series since 2007 and that is the least dumb theory out there.
@@grauntman the Alzheimer’s is really getting to you 😢
Crocodiles voice is great
Cant wait for CrocoClutch moment on next arc
ONE PEAK and we're never going back
When this episode was released there were so many theories of Crocodile being Luffys mom. Crocomom theory if you will.
random theory since last episode we were talking about invanka's help (maybe crocodile used to be a woman) idk idk yall started t6his thoughtt process lol i really didnt realize the tatical advantage of invanka until you guys started really talking about how much that could change things...
It's funny that they think Crocodile could be Luffy's father/mother when he tried to kill him several times and he didn't recognize him.
The iconic crocodile line
42:13 Welcome to one piece
Jimbei in arlong crew💀
Crocodile and Mr. 1 are two badass dudes.
How did they reach "Crocodile is Luffy's blank" on their own?
❌Crocomom theory
✅ Crocodad theory
34:07 Soooooooo close hahahahaha
finally we can talk abt crocomom
You guys are actually right about crocodile being weaker when he faced luffy due to writing and oda has confirmed that he regrets adding and using crocodile so early in the story and hinting that he is more powerful
tbf Crocodile beat Luffy twice, i never perseved him as being weak at all. Took Luffy 3 tries, and without Robin he would've also died bc of Croc's poison
Hisashi buridana mugiwara has separate fan base 🤌🏻
I love that Ivankov can just tell who's a closeted trans person just by looking at them, it explains why so few prisoners are in level 5.5, ivakov realised they wouldn't take to his idea of paradise and so left them alone
Jimbei doesnt have a Devil Fruit, Sea Prism Stone is still a rare material in the world so it is reserved for KNOWN devil fruit users, this is how Buggy escaped because they thought he was just a fodder pirate with no powers
Hisashiburidana Mugiwara
G O D A ❤️🔥👑🛐
It's Croco-mom time!
Except Crocodile knew Luffy's full name during Alabasta... except Ivankov didn't put it together based on Luffys name so maybe nobody knows Dragon's full name... except Kuma apparently knew immediately.
Can anyone help untangle this?
hell, the fact that crocodile tried to MURDER LUFFY
THREE TIMES!
Dragons last name isnt known. If it was people would have easilly connected him to Garp. But as was shown. Low ranking Marines didn't know or even connect him to Dragon.
@Cyrinil142 no one knew Dragon's last name, even his army and Ivankov. It became known only after garp said it. So crocodile had no idea he was fighting her son
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Well the argument would be that Crocodile wouldn't know about Luffy's relationship to Dragon at the time. But that would require the people closest to Dragon not to know his full name.
Hisashiburi dana... Mugiwara...
"After all that?!" is honestly the tagline for Impel Down
sea stone handcuff use only for the devil fruit user, and jinbei is not.