@@paulelhardcore That's a good idea for a video but it's actually really simple. Download the desktop wallet Bootstrap it or wait for 24 hours for the catch up with the block chain Put verus in the wallet in a public address not a Private address then go to the mining page and activate staking. You can use any amount even just a fraction of 1 VRSC, think it requires 1% of one.
I got into phone mining about a month ago when stumbling upon one of paperclips videos when looking for something to do with all my extra cell phones. I got several phones from friends and am running between 103 and 125mh. I am very interested in hard wiring my phones as you have done to eliminate the potential Li-ion swelling and fire hazard. :)
Nice setup and yeah it's definitely something I would recommend doing but the good news is you have time before they really start to become a problem most likely. The majority of mine survived at least a year to year and a half.
Could you not power the phones using something like RJ45 solid core punched down into a patch panel? The RJ45 cables are 0.5mm - 1 mm thick, so should easily be capable of carrying around 5A of power which would be enough to power the phones I'd have thought. It would probably suck and need thicker cables (or simply double them up) for the phones which have USB / PD functionality. It might help reduce the thickness of all your cabling so that you can neaten it up or hide stuff more
You know you're right, it sounds like a very promising idea. I'm going to have to think about it. we've been currently entertaining the idea of using Barrel Jack to make everything neater.
LOL, that is so true with all the GPU and CPU mining but the cell phones, all 350 of them wouldn't cost more than $100 a month to run so it's really not that bad.
Great video. Am trying hardwired my phones. Got two so far. But sure would like to do it better. Can't wait for your videos how to do it . Thank u for a awesome video
You’re back posting! Wonder what the model would look like running a tub of Orange Pi’s in immersion? Seems like the easiest way to scale without huge time input
That sounds like a fun project, I was thinking about that. It's probably not needed because they don't produce that much heat they're very very low powered but it's still could be a fun project and we haven't figured out how to overclock them yet if that's doable then it may be even better.
what is the cost of electricity for PhoneMining per month ? I have 10 Phone and 5 CPU Miner and have on average around 100MH/S Electricity is not cheap in Germany, so I don't know if I should do more.
Cell phones are extremely energy efficient and so are the SBC boards But ultimately the 350 cell phones will pull about 1400 W total and that is about a $100 a month at 10 cents a kilo hour.
I like the idea of mining on phones but I make after electricity as much as 350 phones on my main phone in my pocket. Though not all apps are passive. I'd rather click a bit here or there than spend 10 grand on 350 phones to make the same money not clicking my phone . I can give anyone my list of apps I use which ones are passive. Which ones pay which ones don't anytime . If I don't make over a dollar a day on a device in my 25 phone farm, it stays powered off .
there was a question "How can you set up android to autostart mining?" one of the answers is APP, probably written by your friend. Please, are you able to share this application?
We're using the Linux emulator terminax To auto start mining with the phones there is no special program that I'm aware. You may be able to do the same thing on user land instead and the Mobile phone app does not allow for auto start mining. I believe paper clip on RUclips teaches you how to set it up that way.
Not familiar with it, tried to do a quick Google search and it does seem like a promising idea. But I'm not really sure how it would work could you give me an example with a phone. Unfortunately when the power goes out we have to hit every power button but if there's a way to wire the power going going to the phones that would allow for a single on and off but would be awesome.
Some phones you can use a USB cable to connect directly some of them you need a dongle which will allow you to connect the mouse and the HDMI. The Samsung phones work better with USB connections. If the phone doesn't have a good screen we use a different screen and set everything up and then everything is managed through Wi-Fi we don't use the USB connectors to set anything up. We are running Terminix so you can SSH into the phones and Kyle has wrote scripts to help manage things by doing it that way. There's the management software he's been working on we're hoping to release in some way shape or form but it's still rough and needs more work.
I love your setup! My farm is just a laptop a couple of old NUCs and my old phones. Your hash is so much higher than I've ever imagined! Are you pool mining your phones? Or, is there some way you can run your own private pool off your node?
@@TheBitcoinMiner not really. My older PCs hit a block like twice a month and the rewards are normally higher than base new mint. Hit one last year for around 30. My average is above what I would do in just a pool. I'd love to slave my phones to one of my nodes. I think if I could operate that way my rewards would be much better. Pools don't pay staking rewards. Even with the spikes of 900GH the networks been seeing I'm still hitting stakes and blocks.
So there are three easy ways not including rooting the phone to mine with them one is the app, and the other two ways our Linux emulators userland and Terminix. In Terminix you can get them to auto start mining but I'm not sure about userland and unfortunately there's no way in the app that I'm aware of.
In the current landscape, this venture maintains moderate profitability, typically allowing for a return on investment (ROI) within approximately two and a half to three years under prevailing market conditions. However, what sets this apart is the recent introduction of groundbreaking technology, such as the fee pool and the capability to create tokens and blockchains. As an example, when someone acquires a blockchain or a bridge, it now generates 50 Verus tokens per block, a substantial increase from the previous rate of 6 VRSC. Nevertheless, it's important to note that this enhanced generation rate gradually decreases over a 48-hour period if no further additions are made. So, while it might appear to be a lengthy ROI timeline to some, these technological advancements hold the potential for increased profitability over time. *This is not Financial advice please do your own homework!*
If you're in to technology this is interesting. If you're looking to make a profit this is NOT the way to do it. The general rule in crypto is you have 1 year to get to ROI just to *break even* (zero profit). That means you need a faster ROI to make a profit. 2-3 years is losing. If the coin goes down during that period you lose money. If the coin goes up then you could have just bought the coin now and not done all this work therefore getting more profit. Unless you own an custom ASIC manufacturing facility then mining is a fool's game.
It's not Financial advice but they're making almost 10 cents right now because of the price increase and I've seen a phone averaging about 5 Mega hash make as high as 30 cents before. It's hard to say exactly but you'll be able to merge mine 22 chains as they start coming online.
you shit loads of phones are using them also to mine chia coin?i mean some of theys phone have 128gb,256gb,512gb or 1t storage. surely you could add some plots in there?
well if you don't have any upfront costs (buying phones, cables etc.) then the only charge you would incur id paying for power and the phones don't take much power to run. As far as virtualized I am looking into other ways myself ;)
This is a two-part question as of right now it's moderately profitable. I would expect someone to ROI with any decent outlay of funds within about two and a half to three years in current conditions as it might seem to most but there's been newly released technology which enabled something called the fee pool and the activation of creating tokens and blockchains. For an example when somebody purchases a blockchain or a bridge it pumps out 50 Verus every block instead of 6 VRSC. This is just an example but the 50 VRSC will slowly drop over a 48 hour period if nothing else is added.,
Your looking for a phone with an octa-core in it and something that runs a 64-bit operating system. The best one is the cheapest ones you can find but a lot of people are buying these Orbic joys. I have not tested them yet but you can get them new for about $30. I've been getting cracked older screen Samsung S8 S9 pixels or whatever else I can get my hands on.
I was wondering what happened with my seized phone, I've been onto the procurator fiscal for months 😂😂 jokes aside I've been dreaming of something like this
There's no time to start like the present! You can usually find some old broken phones in a drawer somewhere in most people's house but you find them online between 20 and $30.
Oh come on you guys trying to jinx me or something knock on wood we've had no fires. I know it's a bit messy but everything is well done and we use high-quality components.
A custom design server case that I get locally made. If we order a 100 or more at a time the price is pretty good if the community is interested send me an email.
The phones have extremely powerful arm processors that are extremely energy-efficient as well. Or at least most phone so we're looking for phones that are have 64-bit operating systems and Octa Core processors.
We're planning it's just unfortunately every phone is done differently I did just release the video that explained how we're doing the power distribution and with links to the parts in the description.
While the current profitability is moderately good, it's essential to consider the future potential. Thanks to newly released technology, like the fee pool and the ability to create tokens and blockchains, there are opportunities for enhanced profitability. For an example the block fee was 10 VRSC just this morning, up from 6 VRSC
@@TheBitcoinMiner i wish I could understand what you mean by all that but it would be easier if you could explain how much you make per day with like idk 100 phones etc…
The earnings can drastically fluctuate is what I'm trying to say. The baseline profitability for a 100 phones could be about $3 a day But the most recent peak could be somewhere around 10 to $14 a day. All fees paid to the network go back to miners and stakers and that's where the added funds come from.
@@TheBitcoinMiner you could go do one uber delievery and make that.. yikes man.. I made a killing off of gpu mining by getting in early 2020.. and lost alot on some other things like the scam that is Helium.. but I made 40k with about a 4k investment.. and thats at the current value.. and now the coins are gaining around 8 percent apy... now I just dollar cost average btc eth... i hope you the best man, but this seems like a nightmare.
Yes, I believe so especially considering we're on its second life cycle, it's already paid itself off and then some over the last year and a half. These things are great for home mining, low heat, low power and especially if you have time for tinkering. And just recently they enabled merge mining which will allow you to get a 22 times the awards when people start launching blockchains and there's projects in the works.
Actually in the verus ecosystem It doesn't require an investment to mine either you could participate with your existing hardware like your cell phone or your computer you could run the bridge keeper there's a lot of opportunities including Cheat catcher Without having to buy anything. PS. I briefly looked into that project and I am not interested there are a lot of red flags. Nmo
You can do it start small and start looking for old broken phones in your area, you can get them anywhere from 15 to $30. There are even some new phones people are finding on eBay for 30 bucks. Join the verus Discord and they will help direct you.
im from Argentina bro, is imposible to me to use ebay, but for sure i can get phones for cheap, between 50 and 70 dolars but i do have 2 ryzen 7 5700g i do like to use for mining purposes, you can help me with that ? @@TheBitcoinMiner
Profitability in this context is closely tied to recent technological advancements. The introduction of features like the fee pool and token/blockchain creation has been a game-changer. For example, the purchase of a blockchain or bridge now results in the generation of 50 Verus tokens per block, a substantial increase from the previous rate of 6 VRSC.
Yeah, if we don't continue using these old motherboards, they'll end up getting shipped off to Southeast Asian countries for the precious metals recovery process, while the remaining circuit board components are crushed and dissolved into raw materials. This whole procedure has a significant environmental impact@@TheBitcoinMiner
It is easier to download the app and start mining instead of trying to do it through Terminix and you are right the bear Market is the best time to start building.
Verus is a 50% proof of work and 50% proof of Stake Network everything you mine you can turn around Stake for an added mining reward.
Any video on how to the skaking?
@@paulelhardcore That's a good idea for a video but it's actually really simple. Download the desktop wallet Bootstrap it or wait for 24 hours for the catch up with the block chain Put verus in the wallet in a public address not a Private address then go to the mining page and activate staking. You can use any amount even just a fraction of 1 VRSC, think it requires 1% of one.
I am not going to lie. I am more visual person. 😅😅😅😅
@@paulelhardcore same hahaha
I got into phone mining about a month ago when stumbling upon one of paperclips videos when looking for something to do with all my extra cell phones. I got several phones from friends and am running between 103 and 125mh. I am very interested in hard wiring my phones as you have done to eliminate the potential Li-ion swelling and fire hazard. :)
Nice setup and yeah it's definitely something I would recommend doing but the good news is you have time before they really start to become a problem most likely. The majority of mine survived at least a year to year and a half.
I would be interested in power usage vs mh for phones vs Orange pi.
Cool video!!
wow.. its inspire me to start build with old phone.. thanks.. 🙏
Could you not power the phones using something like RJ45 solid core punched down into a patch panel?
The RJ45 cables are 0.5mm - 1 mm thick, so should easily be capable of carrying around 5A of power which would be enough to power the phones I'd have thought. It would probably suck and need thicker cables (or simply double them up) for the phones which have USB / PD functionality.
It might help reduce the thickness of all your cabling so that you can neaten it up or hide stuff more
You know you're right, it sounds like a very promising idea. I'm going to have to think about it. we've been currently entertaining the idea of using Barrel Jack to make everything neater.
and you can use POe switch
Dad checks his electricity bill……”get TF out!!!”
LOL, that is so true with all the GPU and CPU mining but the cell phones, all 350 of them wouldn't cost more than $100 a month to run so it's really not that bad.
What is the best app miner for Android ??!
I would love to have more information on these phones and your setup and how y'all hardwire dementor managing them remotely
Great video. Am trying hardwired my phones. Got two so far. But sure would like to do it better. Can't wait for your videos how to do it . Thank u for a awesome video
AMAZING!
amazing work
You’re back posting! Wonder what the model would look like running a tub of Orange Pi’s in immersion? Seems like the easiest way to scale without huge time input
That sounds like a fun project, I was thinking about that. It's probably not needed because they don't produce that much heat they're very very low powered but it's still could be a fun project and we haven't figured out how to overclock them yet if that's doable then it may be even better.
what is the cost of electricity for PhoneMining per month ?
I have 10 Phone and 5 CPU Miner and have on average around 100MH/S
Electricity is not cheap in Germany, so I don't know if I should do more.
Cell phones are extremely energy efficient and so are the SBC boards But ultimately the 350 cell phones will pull about 1400 W total and that is about a $100 a month at 10 cents a kilo hour.
I like the idea of mining on phones but I make after electricity as much as 350 phones on my main phone in my pocket. Though not all apps are passive. I'd rather click a bit here or there than spend 10 grand on 350 phones to make the same money not clicking my phone . I can give anyone my list of apps I use which ones are passive. Which ones pay which ones don't anytime . If I don't make over a dollar a day on a device in my 25 phone farm, it stays powered off .
I would be interested to know which ones are the passive ones unfortunately I just don't have the time. I'm a stay-at-home dad of three little ones
@@TheBitcoinMiner
I hear that I work 70 to 75 hours and have a family of 7 at home
Hey Stacy Can You Please Share The List with Me I Really Wanna Get Into It
Thanks moment.
You are very smart 👌 👏 ❤
there was a question "How can you set up android to autostart mining?"
one of the answers is APP, probably written by your friend.
Please, are you able to share this application?
We're using the Linux emulator terminax To auto start mining with the phones there is no special program that I'm aware. You may be able to do the same thing on user land instead and the Mobile phone app does not allow for auto start mining. I believe paper clip on RUclips teaches you how to set it up that way.
use an ne555 timer in monostable mode (one shot) to restart the phones after power outage
😁
Not familiar with it, tried to do a quick Google search and it does seem like a promising idea. But I'm not really sure how it would work could you give me an example with a phone. Unfortunately when the power goes out we have to hit every power button but if there's a way to wire the power going going to the phones that would allow for a single on and off but would be awesome.
hey dude, i actually have custom circuit boards made for this (screenless and batteryless) devices. Its really slick lmk if you want to talk about it!
Sound super cool actually can you send me an email it's in the description!
@@TheBitcoinMinerThe only place where I could get these boards is via import from vietnam. But the battery cables they sell are just samsung.
Im working on a phone farm, how do u manage the connections, adb?
Some phones you can use a USB cable to connect directly some of them you need a dongle which will allow you to connect the mouse and the HDMI. The Samsung phones work better with USB connections. If the phone doesn't have a good screen we use a different screen and set everything up and then everything is managed through Wi-Fi we don't use the USB connectors to set anything up. We are running Terminix so you can SSH into the phones and Kyle has wrote scripts to help manage things by doing it that way. There's the management software he's been working on we're hoping to release in some way shape or form but it's still rough and needs more work.
I love your setup! My farm is just a laptop a couple of old NUCs and my old phones. Your hash is so much higher than I've ever imagined! Are you pool mining your phones? Or, is there some way you can run your own private pool off your node?
Pool mining you can run your own pool but you would need quite a large amount of hash rate to make it worth it.
@@TheBitcoinMiner not really. My older PCs hit a block like twice a month and the rewards are normally higher than base new mint. Hit one last year for around 30. My average is above what I would do in just a pool. I'd love to slave my phones to one of my nodes. I think if I could operate that way my rewards would be much better. Pools don't pay staking rewards. Even with the spikes of 900GH the networks been seeing I'm still hitting stakes and blocks.
Wow! Great video!. How can you set up android to autostart mining?
So there are three easy ways not including rooting the phone to mine with them one is the app, and the other two ways our Linux emulators userland and Terminix. In Terminix you can get them to auto start mining but I'm not sure about userland and unfortunately there's no way in the app that I'm aware of.
In the current landscape, this venture maintains moderate profitability, typically allowing for a return on investment (ROI) within approximately two and a half to three years under prevailing market conditions. However, what sets this apart is the recent introduction of groundbreaking technology, such as the fee pool and the capability to create tokens and blockchains.
As an example, when someone acquires a blockchain or a bridge, it now generates 50 Verus tokens per block, a substantial increase from the previous rate of 6 VRSC. Nevertheless, it's important to note that this enhanced generation rate gradually decreases over a 48-hour period if no further additions are made. So, while it might appear to be a lengthy ROI timeline to some, these technological advancements hold the potential for increased profitability over time. *This is not Financial advice please do your own homework!*
Just buy a box phone farm… it’s much cheaper and much more efficient
If you're in to technology this is interesting. If you're looking to make a profit this is NOT the way to do it. The general rule in crypto is you have 1 year to get to ROI just to *break even* (zero profit). That means you need a faster ROI to make a profit. 2-3 years is losing. If the coin goes down during that period you lose money. If the coin goes up then you could have just bought the coin now and not done all this work therefore getting more profit. Unless you own an custom ASIC manufacturing facility then mining is a fool's game.
qual software você usa para ver todo o hash do telefone em uma tela?
Hii I'm planning to build farm i have about 150 device.. Is possible to earn 0.20-0.30 cents per device?
It's not Financial advice but they're making almost 10 cents right now because of the price increase and I've seen a phone averaging about 5 Mega hash make as high as 30 cents before. It's hard to say exactly but you'll be able to merge mine 22 chains as they start coming online.
crazy 😄
...is all the phone internet via wifi or serial Ethernet via PCB.. wondering how the router managing it
which software do you use to see all phone hash in a screen ?
you shit loads of phones are using them also to mine chia coin?i mean some of theys phone have 128gb,256gb,512gb or 1t storage.
surely you could add some plots in there?
That's not a bad idea but how would you run the remote Harvester on there?
How is this profitable? And couldn't the phones be virtualized?
well if you don't have any upfront costs (buying phones, cables etc.) then the only charge you would incur id paying for power and the phones don't take much power to run. As far as virtualized I am looking into other ways myself ;)
This is a two-part question as of right now it's moderately profitable. I would expect someone to ROI with any decent outlay of funds within about two and a half to three years in current conditions as it might seem to most but there's been newly released technology which enabled something called the fee pool and the activation of creating tokens and blockchains. For an example when somebody purchases a blockchain or a bridge it pumps out 50 Verus every block instead of 6 VRSC. This is just an example but the 50 VRSC will slowly drop over a 48 hour period if nothing else is added.,
What is the best model of phone to do this with?
Your looking for a phone with an octa-core in it and something that runs a 64-bit operating system. The best one is the cheapest ones you can find but a lot of people are buying these Orbic joys. I have not tested them yet but you can get them new for about $30. I've been getting cracked older screen Samsung S8 S9 pixels or whatever else I can get my hands on.
You need biohazard suite to enter the room 😯
All the radiation in there.
It is a lot of Wi-Fi but that's why they're in the steel boxes the damping it. The phones are cheaper but the pi have their pluses.
Tell me how a BIO hazard suit protects against RF/ Radiation? 😂😂
can you share the monitoring app ?
How many watts do you use in total ?
dude clean that place up
I was wondering what happened with my seized phone, I've been onto the procurator fiscal for months 😂😂 jokes aside I've been dreaming of something like this
There's no time to start like the present! You can usually find some old broken phones in a drawer somewhere in most people's house but you find them online between 20 and $30.
how many fires have you had
Oh come on you guys trying to jinx me or something knock on wood we've had no fires. I know it's a bit messy but everything is well done and we use high-quality components.
@@TheBitcoinMineryou were talking about cell phones bloating. every one of those is a potential. it's good you're getting rid of the batteries.
Mined any Scala?
How much you make per day mate?
how much is that box of phones?
What server case are you using for all your rigs?
A custom design server case that I get locally made. If we order a 100 or more at a time the price is pretty good if the community is interested send me an email.
Why mining on phone? Cant you virtualize it?
The phones have extremely powerful arm processors that are extremely energy-efficient as well. Or at least most phone so we're looking for phones that are have 64-bit operating systems and Octa Core processors.
Bagaimana klok ponsel mati?apa harus mengulangi lagi.
How to reach out
😮😮😮😮
Nobody: who stole my phone
Anyway for a video on how to setup everything
We're planning it's just unfortunately every phone is done differently I did just release the video that explained how we're doing the power distribution and with links to the parts in the description.
how much you make per phone
3 cents not including electricity cost
While the current profitability is moderately good, it's essential to consider the future potential. Thanks to newly released technology, like the fee pool and the ability to create tokens and blockchains, there are opportunities for enhanced profitability. For an example the block fee was 10 VRSC just this morning, up from 6 VRSC
@@TheBitcoinMiner i wish I could understand what you mean by all that but it would be easier if you could explain how much you make per day with like idk 100 phones etc…
The earnings can drastically fluctuate is what I'm trying to say. The baseline profitability for a 100 phones could be about $3 a day But the most recent peak could be somewhere around 10 to $14 a day. All fees paid to the network go back to miners and stakers and that's where the added funds come from.
@@TheBitcoinMiner you could go do one uber delievery and make that.. yikes man.. I made a killing off of gpu mining by getting in early 2020.. and lost alot on some other things like the scam that is Helium.. but I made 40k with about a 4k investment.. and thats at the current value.. and now the coins are gaining around 8 percent apy... now I just dollar cost average btc eth... i hope you the best man, but this seems like a nightmare.
my farm run actualy 50 phone without battery for 200mhs 😅
There's so much better without the batteries.
100 views (one is mine) and no comments yet
Can you also make a video where the whole thing goes up in flames???
Sooner or later it will happen !!!
Is this really worth it?
Yes, I believe so especially considering we're on its second life cycle, it's already paid itself off and then some over the last year and a half. These things are great for home mining, low heat, low power and especially if you have time for tinkering. And just recently they enabled merge mining which will allow you to get a 22 times the awards when people start launching blockchains and there's projects in the works.
Mining does not require any investment from you if you do it in the Utopia ecosystem.
Actually in the verus ecosystem It doesn't require an investment to mine either you could participate with your existing hardware like your cell phone or your computer you could run the bridge keeper there's a lot of opportunities including Cheat catcher Without having to buy anything.
PS. I briefly looked into that project and I am not interested there are a lot of red flags. Nmo
how i wish to do this at my home is my dream please help me bro
You can do it start small and start looking for old broken phones in your area, you can get them anywhere from 15 to $30. There are even some new phones people are finding on eBay for 30 bucks. Join the verus Discord and they will help direct you.
im from Argentina bro, is imposible to me to use ebay, but for sure i can get phones for cheap, between 50 and 70 dolars but i do have 2 ryzen 7 5700g i do like to use for mining purposes, you can help me with that ? @@TheBitcoinMiner
You'd be better off running to mine the Utopia ecosystem and selling your farm.
Not at all, I just looked into it you should look into mining Verus. Verus can do everything they can do and way more and completely decentralized.
How is this profitable?
Profitability in this context is closely tied to recent technological advancements. The introduction of features like the fee pool and token/blockchain creation has been a game-changer. For example, the purchase of a blockchain or bridge now results in the generation of 50 Verus tokens per block, a substantial increase from the previous rate of 6 VRSC.
It’s not great for environment, isn’t it?
F the environment !! 😄
Actually it is good for the environment because we're buying old broken cell phones and upcycling them and saving them from landfills!
Yeah, if we don't continue using these old motherboards, they'll end up getting shipped off to Southeast Asian countries for the precious metals recovery process, while the remaining circuit board components are crushed and dissolved into raw materials. This whole procedure has a significant environmental impact@@TheBitcoinMiner
Too much work, just use cpus
Bruh i think you just leaked your ip lol
send me some coin
Isn't it easier to download the u. is app and mine growing Crypton during a bear market?
It is easier to download the app and start mining instead of trying to do it through Terminix and you are right the bear Market is the best time to start building.