This was great! My son got over his 'long covid' too by accepting it was a form of Mind Body Syndrome and doing the work he needed to do. I am so grateful that he has got his life back! Keep sharing these stories. People have a hard time believing that breathing exercises, meditation, brain training and movement can get get you out of it. Also, in his case an anti inflammatory diet helped as well!
So pleased for your son. I also ate a very healthy diet for a while (most of the time) but didn’t eliminate anything except coffee and alcohol. I have now re introduced these again
Very reckonizable proces. It took me 1,5 year to recover and now after 2,5 year I can do work out, run and live life as before covid. Very inspiring this. I sort of came to the same conclusion as Rachel in my recoveryproces. Long covid is not forever.
@@CharlieRascal oh yes! If I drove a car, i would get excorsted and short of breath. If I emptied the dish washer, the same. And if I tried to go for a run, i would colapse on the couch, with fatigue, shortness of breath etc and often it broke though maybe half an our or later after the run it self. And lasted for a coulple of days. Today i have been to the gym for an hour doing weigth lifting, yesterday dancing for 40 minutes, on manday the gym again. I live like before the damn virus. Finally. But the mindset is important, the take-it-easy-you-just-live-with-it. Dont fight it. Then slowly you adapt and walk side by side with it instead of fighting and loosing All the time. The loosing wears you down. Good Luck ❤️
Let me say that Rachel has been monumental in helping LC sufferers in various online forums. She’s always so available and is a wealth of knowledge. I’m so glad she got to share her story! Thanks Dan
This interview has given me new life. I’ve had self-diagnosed CFS since 2020. I recovered and then a year later I’m back down again. Though this time it looks a little different. I had looked into TMS several times but couldn’t quite fit it for CFS since pain is not my issue. I read part of The Divided Mind a few days ago and started getting into the idea again. Then this woman in this interview responded to question I had in Nicole Sach’s group. She linked this video and it clicked for me. After the interview I said I am ok and always have been. I got up, took a shower,did some other things and barely any symptoms have shown up. I came to the conclusion I have anxiety that needs to be resolved and my body is fine. Wow! Thank you for posting this interview. I felt like I could finally relate and I removed myself from all “bad neighborhoods”. I felt so much lighter after I did.
A month after covid my Dr office receptionist over the phone said: youre a Long Hauler! My dr never said it. My extensive tests showed zero anything negative! But i spiraled outa control peaking june july. Fatigued nausea headaches tendonitis numb feet eye flashes & more. Thankyou Rachel great story & insights Im gaining ground in Dan’s zoom Wed call. Its the immovable object vs the irresistible force. FEAR (pain symptoms) vs calm accurate knowledge. The latter must win for all of us because its The Truth
Thank you for sharing your story Rachel - this can be a scary path, but you are proof that there is a way out. Fear is the thing which keeps it going and we are warriors dealing with this every day. I wish you well for the future 😊x
Oh ....wow...I've literally only watched 1/4 of this video so far and it's gotta be one of THE best success stories I've seen, all the insights Rachel had. I've got the label cfs but after finding out about tms earlier this year I 100% think long covid and cfs are all just the same thing really- tms. The stuff she was talking about with being told by others of "the spoon theory " and stuff like your mitochondria being effected and that your exercise intolerant etc is also 100% what you get told in the cfs world. It's literally so hard letting go of all these things you've been taught by professionals , they r basically limiting beliefs which create predictive coding and expectations of symptoms thru fear and fear of "crashing " just like you were both saying . Thank you Dan and Rachel soo much for this amazing interview 🦄🙌 I think this could help alot of ppl if they are open to the gold nuggets 😉
Get out of the cfs groups. Got long covid and in the cfs groups they are predictive coding a lot. 'Don't do that or you will feel worse!!" And ques what happens......we do things and we are feeling worse because it is 'expected'. Dan calls it 'nocebo'. If you expect bad things after activity your brain will say:'here you are...like YOU REQUESTED!'. I left the cfs groups and work on my fear only now by understanding that my symptons are perceived danger symptons.
Thanks - please share far and wide. It’s only after recovery that I realised quite how much fear and the ME narrative had influenced me. There really is a way out. I’ve seen it again and again in the last few months.
@@creepybastard1988 hey fin exactly ! I was literally only in cfs groups for maybe 3 weeks total over a year ago 🤣 pretty soon realized they were the worst thing I could b doing ! Then I found Dan's channel this year and have been focusing on the fear, like u have, ever since👍🦄 best of luck with ur journey
@@meganobrien1019 Yeah! Exactly!! Sometimes i think they are creating nocebo's on purpose so that we ware so anxious that we will spend thousands of dollars to join their 'recovery programs'. They were using words like 'crash' and were saying that 'adjustment periods' were normal(!) after expanding activity'. I was so anxious that i had continues 'adjustment periods' that time. Since i left the groups i feel relieved. I have symptons but much better to handle because i know it is perceived danger symptons and i try fear less because it is the brain creating the symptons. In time the symptons will slowly fade away if you try to stay calm and don't pay too much attention to it. I wish u so much luck with your journey too!!
Wonderful, wonderful interview. Rachel articulates really well the up and down recovery process, and the struggle to break free from fear and worry. So inspiring and I relate so much. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your story Rachel...very inspiring. Thanks to you too Dan for bringing us her story. I know there are many more stories like this in the world due to Covid.
OMG - thank you Rachel and Dan for a fantastic SS - I could relate to it all. To paraphrase the song, I felt you found my letters and read each one out loud. Nicole Sachs - pregrieving - that’s me!!
Thankyou Rachel and Dan for sharing your success story . Absolutely needed to hear this especially today I'm in that up and down cycle at the mo ,I will 100% take on board not paying too much to my thinking 🙏😊 take care and have a lovely day too you both 🤗😊
Really inspiring story from Rachel!! Rachel- I also experienced the tight feeling in my throat after covid, which I'd never had before. My GP told me it was just anxiety. I've been working on my positive mindset and its definitely improved. But it made me have panic attacks for weeks, it was horrible!
It’s not “just anxiety” but it is related I think. Pure fear is a better way of describing it. Not surprising after what we have been thro ! But I think then the panic about the symptoms exacerbates the symptoms. Getting out of fear was one of the best things I did xx
@@rachelwhitfield Yes pure fear is a good way to describe it! It was such a vicious cycle too..symptoms feeding the fear, fear feeding the symptoms! Very hard to break out of. Stories like Rachel's are such a help.
All viruses can leave you with post viral fatigue. Usually 6weeks should be enough for bodies to recover. Had COVID, lost a stone in a week. No taste and smell three months. Started getting better about month later then I crashed. I now believe that it was TMS. Immune response definitely ramped up especially in my throat area. Sinus issues, doctor said long covid if 4months from start. Eventually went. Got COVID again in August, lost smell and taste changes 3months.
@Pain Free You. Dan, a few weeks ago, the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine did a webinar on covid that included a presentation on Long Covid. The presenter said all viral illnesses have a subset of people who have the same kinds of symptoms such as fatigue, post exertional malaise, and other symptoms similar to what they had during the acute phase of the illness. He didn't address the possibility of Mind Body syndrome but it certainly stands to reason that a subset of people would be extremely frightened by their experience and get pulled into the belief system that they're stuck that way now, especially if they get into the bad neighborhoods that reinforce that destructive message.
Yep - some of the best universities are basically blind to the role of the brain and perceived danger in the creation and continuation of symptoms. Interesting about that presentation. Shame all they did was create more fear and not less.
Great video thanks both-just watched on FB. I can relate to so much of what Rachel said and I have a similar experience although cfs not long covid although i believe they are the same thing ie:tms just a different trigger event x i suspect the tight throat thing is a very common anxiety symptom, globus hystericus is the old name but just muscle tension in the throat triggered by anxious thoughts, disappears if you give it little attention x i have also read nicola birds book and done the LP which helped when i had cfs before x thanks again, has reminded me to stay on track x very happy for you Rachel x
Those interviews are done on Zoom. I just record the call and save to my desktop. We edit to put the blue frame and title information into the video and it's done.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan! I'm trying out Riverside FM. Shooting my first podcast this weekend. Zoom seems like a great simple solution if Riverside doesn't work out for me. Would love to have you on the podcast some time once I'm up and running. I'm speaking with a PT for my first Podcast about hypersensitivity of the nervous system and other topics within athletic performance. Many of the concepts I plan to discuss overlap with things you teach. Thanks for all you do for the TMS community. I've benefited from your content as I know many others have. Keep doing what you do!
To begin with I slept a lot. Really bad fatigue. I then went thro a massive period of insomnia that lasted for months. I was tired but also wired. I’m not sure where the confusion is ? Hopefully that clarifies
@@rachelwhitfield yes thank you so much. My insomnia is going on 6 months now without a break. I average 3 hrs a night. I Have tried everything and Sleeping pills dont work. How did you go about your day Rachel ? I am in a vicious cycle, no sleep non functional, dread goes up. I Am desperately looking for encouragement.
I stopped fighting it. I realised 2 hours is enough for everything to function and that what was making things worse was my worry about it. So I just got up every day and stopped focusing on it.
@@rachelwhitfield hey Rachel how you doing wonder is any way I can get in contact with you suffering simpler love connect with you ask more questions please
This was great! My son got over his 'long covid' too by accepting it was a form of Mind Body Syndrome and doing the work he needed to do. I am so grateful that he has got his life back! Keep sharing these stories. People have a hard time believing that breathing exercises, meditation, brain training and movement can get get you out of it. Also, in his case an anti inflammatory diet helped as well!
Wonderful!
So pleased for your son. I also ate a very healthy diet for a while (most of the time) but didn’t eliminate anything except coffee and alcohol. I have now re introduced these again
@@rachelwhitfield hey Rachel wondering any way I can get contact with you suffering with long covid
Very reckonizable proces. It took me 1,5 year to recover and now after 2,5 year I can do work out, run and live life as before covid. Very inspiring this. I sort of came to the same conclusion as Rachel in my recoveryproces. Long covid is not forever.
What took you so long? Bad neighbourhoods?
Thank you for this comment
I’ve had so many up and downs with this, reading comments like this makes me so confident
You Are welcome. 😊
I’m at 1.5 years now. Better but not 100%. Scared I won’t make a full recovery now. Up and down with the belief that it’s mind body. Did you have PEM?
@@CharlieRascal oh yes! If I drove a car, i would get excorsted and short of breath. If I emptied the dish washer, the same. And if I tried to go for a run, i would colapse on the couch, with fatigue, shortness of breath etc and often it broke though maybe half an our or later after the run it self. And lasted for a coulple of days. Today i have been to the gym for an hour doing weigth lifting, yesterday dancing for 40 minutes, on manday the gym again. I live like before the damn virus. Finally. But the mindset is important, the take-it-easy-you-just-live-with-it. Dont fight it. Then slowly you adapt and walk side by side with it instead of fighting and loosing All the time. The loosing wears you down. Good Luck ❤️
I have listened to this video over and over again whenever I need reassurance that I will recover. ❤️thanks Rachel!
Let me say that Rachel has been monumental in helping LC sufferers in various online forums. She’s always so available and is a wealth of knowledge. I’m so glad she got to share her story! Thanks Dan
That's great. When I spoke to her, she made it clear she wants to help as many people as possible.
ahh. Thanks so much. That means the world to me. Always happy to help
This interview has given me new life. I’ve had self-diagnosed CFS since 2020. I recovered and then a year later I’m back down again. Though this time it looks a little different. I had looked into TMS several times but couldn’t quite fit it for CFS since pain is not my issue. I read part of The Divided Mind a few days ago and started getting into the idea again. Then this woman in this interview responded to question I had in Nicole Sach’s group. She linked this video and it clicked for me. After the interview I said I am ok and always have been. I got up, took a shower,did some other things and barely any symptoms have shown up. I came to the conclusion I have anxiety that needs to be resolved and my body is fine. Wow! Thank you for posting this interview. I felt like I could finally relate and I removed myself from all “bad neighborhoods”. I felt so much lighter after I did.
Fantastic. Thrilled that the video was helpful.
I’m so so pleased for you xxxx
A month after covid my Dr office receptionist over the phone said: youre a Long Hauler! My dr never said it. My extensive tests showed zero anything negative! But i spiraled outa control peaking june july. Fatigued nausea headaches tendonitis numb feet eye flashes & more. Thankyou Rachel great story & insights Im gaining ground in Dan’s zoom Wed call. Its the immovable object vs the irresistible force. FEAR (pain symptoms) vs calm accurate knowledge. The latter must win for all of us because its The Truth
Thank you for sharing your story Rachel - this can be a scary path, but you are proof that there is a way out. Fear is the thing which keeps it going and we are warriors dealing with this every day. I wish you well for the future 😊x
It definitely is a scary path , we will get there 😊 🤗
Yes fear (and beliefs which drive the fear) keep it going !!
@@rachelwhitfield how can we access your blog? What a great interview… u are me!
Dan , keep
Doing long covid videos, so many people need it
Thanks!
Amazing success story! Will help a lot of people - hugs
Oh ....wow...I've literally only watched 1/4 of this video so far and it's gotta be one of THE best success stories I've seen, all the insights Rachel had.
I've got the label cfs but after finding out about tms earlier this year I 100% think long covid and cfs are all just the same thing really- tms.
The stuff she was talking about with being told by others of "the spoon theory " and stuff like your mitochondria being effected and that your exercise intolerant etc is also 100% what you get told in the cfs world. It's literally so hard letting go of all these things you've been taught by professionals , they r basically limiting beliefs which create predictive coding and expectations of symptoms thru fear and fear of "crashing " just like you were both saying .
Thank you Dan and Rachel soo much for this amazing interview 🦄🙌 I think this could help alot of ppl if they are open to the gold nuggets 😉
Get out of the cfs groups. Got long covid and in the cfs groups they are predictive coding a lot. 'Don't do that or you will feel worse!!" And ques what happens......we do things and we are feeling worse because it is 'expected'. Dan calls it 'nocebo'. If you expect bad things after activity your brain will say:'here you are...like YOU REQUESTED!'. I left the cfs groups and work on my fear only now by understanding that my symptons are perceived danger symptons.
Thanks - please share far and wide. It’s only after recovery that I realised quite how much fear and the ME narrative had influenced me. There really is a way out. I’ve seen it again and again in the last few months.
@@creepybastard1988 hey fin exactly ! I was literally only in cfs groups for maybe 3 weeks total over a year ago 🤣 pretty soon realized they were the worst thing I could b doing ! Then I found Dan's channel this year and have been focusing on the fear, like u have, ever since👍🦄 best of luck with ur journey
@@meganobrien1019 Yeah! Exactly!! Sometimes i think they are creating nocebo's on purpose so that we ware so anxious that we will spend thousands of dollars to join their 'recovery programs'. They were using words like 'crash' and were saying that 'adjustment periods' were normal(!) after expanding activity'. I was so anxious that i had continues 'adjustment periods' that time. Since i left the groups i feel relieved. I have symptons but much better to handle because i know it is perceived danger symptons and i try fear less because it is the brain creating the symptons. In time the symptons will slowly fade away if you try to stay calm and don't pay too much attention to it. I wish u so much luck with your journey too!!
Thank you Megan.
Wonderful, wonderful interview. Rachel articulates really well the up and down recovery process, and the struggle to break free from fear and worry. So inspiring and I relate so much. Thank you!
Why thank you x
Superb recovery story, well done Rachel - truly inspiring 👏👏
Thanks Rachel and Dan💯I can’t wait to share my story when I am fully recovered. This really helps people👍❤️
You got this! If you want some direct help, consider the group coaching. www.PainFreeYou.com/join
Thank you Rachel great Success Story so inspiring and thank you Dan❤️
Thanks for sharing your story Rachel...very inspiring. Thanks to you too Dan for bringing us her story. I know there are many more stories like this in the world due to Covid.
You are so welcome!
OMG - thank you Rachel and Dan for a fantastic SS - I could relate to it all. To paraphrase the song, I felt you found my letters and read each one out loud.
Nicole Sachs - pregrieving - that’s me!!
Yes that pre grieving Nicole episode was a game changer for me
You super star Rachel well done. Thank you for explaining your story so articulately
Ahh thanks back
Thanks Rachel and Dan. I needed this.
Glad to help
Pacing is important. Trust me on that.
Thank you for this, I will be passing this around!
Please do. Keen to get the story out. Even if it helps one person. That will be great.
Wonderful!
Thankyou Rachel and Dan for sharing your success story . Absolutely needed to hear this especially today I'm in that up and down cycle at the mo ,I will 100% take on board not paying too much to my thinking 🙏😊 take care and have a lovely day too you both 🤗😊
Thank you
Really connected thanks
SO inspiring Rachel. THANKYOU for sharing your story. x
You are welcome
Omgosh Rachel is so awesome! She is so interesting to listen to! What a great video!!
Ahh thanks !! X
Really inspiring story from Rachel!! Rachel- I also experienced the tight feeling in my throat after covid, which I'd never had before. My GP told me it was just anxiety. I've been working on my positive mindset and its definitely improved. But it made me have panic attacks for weeks, it was horrible!
It’s not “just anxiety” but it is related I think. Pure fear is a better way of describing it. Not surprising after what we have been thro ! But I think then the panic about the symptoms exacerbates the symptoms. Getting out of fear was one of the best things I did xx
@@rachelwhitfield Yes pure fear is a good way to describe it! It was such a vicious cycle too..symptoms feeding the fear, fear feeding the symptoms! Very hard to break out of. Stories like Rachel's are such a help.
Thank you Dan and Rachel, for sharing your experience, these vidios are always inspiring 🤗
Our pleasure!
You speak about magnetic stimulation
All viruses can leave you with post viral fatigue. Usually 6weeks should be enough for bodies to recover. Had COVID, lost a stone in a week. No taste and smell three months. Started getting better about month later then I crashed. I now believe that it was TMS. Immune response definitely ramped up especially in my throat area. Sinus issues, doctor said long covid if 4months from start. Eventually went. Got COVID again in August, lost smell and taste changes 3months.
@Pain Free You. Dan, a few weeks ago, the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine did a webinar on covid that included a presentation on Long Covid. The presenter said all viral illnesses have a subset of people who have the same kinds of symptoms such as fatigue, post exertional malaise, and other symptoms similar to what they had during the acute phase of the illness. He didn't address the possibility of Mind Body syndrome but it certainly stands to reason that a subset of people would be extremely frightened by their experience and get pulled into the belief system that they're stuck that way now, especially if they get into the bad neighborhoods that reinforce that destructive message.
Yep - some of the best universities are basically blind to the role of the brain and perceived danger in the creation and continuation of symptoms. Interesting about that presentation. Shame all they did was create more fear and not less.
Great video thanks both-just watched on FB. I can relate to so much of what Rachel said and I have a similar experience although cfs not long covid although i believe they are the same thing ie:tms just a different trigger event x i suspect the tight throat thing is a very common anxiety symptom, globus hystericus is the old name but just muscle tension in the throat triggered by anxious thoughts, disappears if you give it little attention x i have also read nicola birds book and done the LP which helped when i had cfs before x thanks again, has reminded me to stay on track x very happy for you Rachel x
Thanks sarah. Yes, I think you are right about CFS/ME/Long covid etc and also about the throat. Glad you enjoyed the video xx
One of the best interviews!!! Rachael how can we access your blog?
mylongcovidjourney.wordpress.com
Thank you Rachel❤️! 🙏☺️
Thank you for your story.
Rest after any viral illness.
Hey Dan, love your content! I'm curious what software you use to record your remote podcasts
Those interviews are done on Zoom. I just record the call and save to my desktop. We edit to put the blue frame and title information into the video and it's done.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan! I'm trying out Riverside FM. Shooting my first podcast this weekend. Zoom seems like a great simple solution if Riverside doesn't work out for me. Would love to have you on the podcast some time once I'm up and running. I'm speaking with a PT for my first Podcast about hypersensitivity of the nervous system and other topics within athletic performance. Many of the concepts I plan to discuss overlap with things you teach. Thanks for all you do for the TMS community. I've benefited from your content as I know many others have. Keep doing what you do!
I wonder if Rachel can reply, question is did you take any medications to recover ?
I took some sleeping tablets for a while which helped
I took some suppliments which I don’t think helped at all
Doctors do understand infectious disease very well. Chronic life style disease and mental conditions are less well understoid.
Very true.
Hopefully data will emerge showing if data is different for those vaccinated etc.
Rachel talks about sleeping a lot yet she mentions insomnia as a symptom. I am a tad confused.
To begin with I slept a lot. Really bad fatigue. I then went thro a massive period of insomnia that lasted for months. I was tired but also wired. I’m not sure where the confusion is ? Hopefully that clarifies
@@rachelwhitfield yes thank you so much. My insomnia is going on 6 months now without a break. I average 3 hrs a night. I Have tried everything and Sleeping pills dont work. How did you go about your day Rachel ? I am in a vicious cycle, no sleep non functional, dread goes up. I Am desperately looking for encouragement.
I stopped fighting it. I realised 2 hours is enough for everything to function and that what was making things worse was my worry about it. So I just got up every day and stopped focusing on it.
@@rachelwhitfielddid you go exercise during the insomnia period ?
@@briechilli4496noooo
What about Doubt Dan I heard doubt is devil stops people from healing
Doubt Delays Recovery for sure.
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Doubt was a huge factor. As my beliefs got stronger and doubt got less, I got better ;)
@@rachelwhitfield hey Rachel how you doing wonder is any way I can get in contact with you suffering simpler love connect with you ask more questions please
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