2007 Suzuki SX4 Review - Kelley Blue Book

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  • @loycenewman1729
    @loycenewman1729 3 года назад +19

    I purchased my SX4 new in 2007. I absolutely love this car. No issues what so ever. It currently has 110,000 miles and is still running strong. If this car was still being built I would certainly buy another one.

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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    • @TaraSmithx
      @TaraSmithx 3 года назад

      I recently bought a 2008 one with 63,000 miles on it and I love it no issues with mine either

  • @wilding-yt
    @wilding-yt 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've had mine for 8 years. Very reliable. I've really enjoyed owning it as it's very versatile. I've had some great nights away camping in mine having done a few alterations. I look back now on when I bought it and I got an absolute bargain!

  • @saraa3862
    @saraa3862 4 года назад +8

    I have had a Suzuki Sx4 for over eight years and it is an awesome car. The best thing about this car is that it runs like a champ in the snow. It zips around like nothing, while everyone else is getting stuck. This is a great economical car.

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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    • @TaraSmithx
      @TaraSmithx 3 года назад +1

      That’s amazing I bought one recently but unfortunately it’s only a front wheel drive so I’m scared for the snow 😬

    • @jayislander
      @jayislander Год назад

      @@TaraSmithxupdate

    • @conmanumber1
      @conmanumber1 Год назад

      ​@@TaraSmithxKeep a pair of dedicated snow tires around for winter. Don't use them for wet or summer as they are dangerous.

  • @G777GUN
    @G777GUN 13 лет назад +35

    I will give you all a review on its safety in a crash. It works excellent even against a BMW and wall. That happened just yesterday. 2 adults and 2 kids escaped unhurt. Even the groceries were okay. Unfortunatly the car was totaled.
    Thanks Japan from Britain.

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  • @Ndorfin96
    @Ndorfin96 15 лет назад +2

    The SX4 is awesome in the worst snow and ice. Makes it disappear. Great car for Colorado, where I live. I just bought one before our first big ice storm and it drove circles around 2WD cars. Handles like a go cart and loves to rev! I've had Hondas to Hyundais and this SX4 is quality. Luv it!

  • @12kiiim
    @12kiiim 12 лет назад +14

    My father bought this car 5 years ago and until now we can't find any problem at all.

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @Ace-cj9ve
    @Ace-cj9ve 3 года назад +2

    My dad got a 2007 sx4 about 5 years ago and its been good now i turned 14 i started driving he bought me a 2008 sx4 i take care of it a wash it and i just cant wait to drive it more often 😃😃

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  • @onbradley
    @onbradley 14 лет назад +1

    I purchased a new 2010 Suzuki SX 4 in spring of 2010. It has only been driven the city in temperate non-winter conditions. No ice, snow, or gravel on the road. Much of the front end is pitted with paint chips. They are everywhere, right down to the primer. I take my car in for regular service intervals and keep it clean. The finish is rapidly disintegrating. I spoke with Suzuki corporate and they recommend I take it into the dealership. I will do this and keep you all posted.

  • @TravellinOn2010
    @TravellinOn2010 Год назад +3

    I always wear a crash helmet when I drive mine, and I always take shortcuts through the green belt instead of sticking to the highway. With its small size and all wheel drive it can tackle almost any walking trail or cycle lane.

  • @AdamAus85
    @AdamAus85 15 лет назад +2

    I had this car as a rental, definately a surprise hit. I don't even like small cars, but I have to appreciate this car for what it is. Great peppy engine and strong brakes with a nice interior. I'd easily pick this over the current Lancer that I've driven also.

  • @boxerboy999
    @boxerboy999 15 лет назад +6

    yup, the front A-Pillars REALLY hinders visibility, especially at night while turning, I'm always worry I'm going to hit a pedestrian crossing. BUT apparently, this A-Pillar ADDS tremendous rigidity to the frame. It makes it an VERY good and capable WRC car, and the weight distribution too is 50% rear-front, where normal cars are more like 60% front.

    • @marciomtb8641
      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @Rinifi
    @Rinifi 9 лет назад +11

    I have 120,000 miles on my 2007 SX4. The only problem I had was a thermostat replacement. With a good set of tires, I've driven in the mountains during snowstorms with no tire chains. The 4-wheel drive lock mechanism works perfectly when the going gets tough. It's small, fun to drive, and durable. My only complaint is that I wish it had a sixth gear (manual transmission) to keep the engine revs a bit lower. Best car I've ever had. Too bad Suzuki bailed on the American market.

    • @-_____-
      @-_____- 8 лет назад +1

      It did come with a six speed.

    • @brianfrtz
      @brianfrtz 8 лет назад +1

      Rinifi The 2011 is a 6 speed. It's great.

    • @Sig721Tau
      @Sig721Tau 6 лет назад +1

      You can blame GM for Suzuki leaving the US market and VW for discontinuing the 3.2L V6 (Grand Vitara & its bigger cousin the XL7).

    • @mrsociable1288
      @mrsociable1288 5 лет назад

      I've got the 2L diesel with 320 mm torque and 37mpg. Really great fun around town and a 6th gear for the motorway. Cruise control too :)

    • @annaoop6831
      @annaoop6831 3 года назад

      Mine only has 112,000 and I have done had to replace the control arms, my ac don’t give cold air, I had to replace an oil and transmission seal but other then that I love my car I just hate that I can’t figure out what is wrong with the ac

  • @soulshower
    @soulshower 13 лет назад +8

    One of the only things I don't like about the SX4 is how close they put the 12v outlet port to the cup holders.

    • @latoshatanner4531
      @latoshatanner4531 4 года назад +2

      soulshower same that’s the only thing I don’t like too and I wish they would have put a compartment in the middle

  • @mgrella63
    @mgrella63 12 лет назад +3

    Ive owned 6 different suzuki cars and suv's no complaints with any of them. They were never in the shop very very reliable and fun to drive. Not sure why so many are pissing all over suzuki.

    • @diamond3838
      @diamond3838 5 лет назад +1

      Topsx4 it’s because it’s a cheap car and everyone thinks the cheap cars are the worst cars. I can tell you with my SX4, it’s one of the best cars for weather where I live and fun to drive.

  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад +1

    I meant the Swift '+', but the specification was unneeded as we were talking about NSA cars.
    I know the Sedici is the SX4. However, the SX4 is built on a new chassis. The Swift chassis didn't have space for the AWD system (half shafts etc). The frame is similar to the Swift's, but there are enough changes from the initial stages of development for it to be considered a new chassis.

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @wtrdogg20
    @wtrdogg20 15 лет назад +19

    Please, do not compare an OVERPRICED cheap sedan car like a Yaris with an Off Road Legend like Suzuki.....This car might not be able to do the same as the Grand Vitara, but the off road capability is unique for a car of this segment and price range.

    • @md8723
      @md8723 4 года назад

      Bro, this may be a off road legend. But this is a really good first car. It comes with 2.0 liter engine

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @todd240beoch
    @todd240beoch 15 лет назад +2

    I own a SX4 and it is a great car. Its quick enough and the sedan w/sport package comes with Navigation and 17" Alloys all for under 15K for the money there isnt alot of cars better. I would reccomend this car to anyone on a buget

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад +3

    Well, I'm confident in saying that ALL car companies use external suppliers to produce their cars. So as Suzuki may make their cars in Japan, using parts branded as their own (they're only bought and sold as their own under contract from the supplier), they will still buy most (if not all) of their parts from external suppliers. Just like any other car company.

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @ThomasXp
    @ThomasXp 13 лет назад +3

    I love the style of this car.

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @419rlanthony
    @419rlanthony 3 года назад

    The Sazooki SX4 is a peppity, fuel efficient, and smooth little 4 cylinder crossover! ZIPPITY!!!

  • @colingrubbs2916
    @colingrubbs2916 6 лет назад +1

    Is this a compact SUV or a hatchback? seems like it can be in 2 vehicle classes at once.

    • @GoldenSim27
      @GoldenSim27 6 лет назад

      crossover , much like you said , a midway between both

  • @jaekob2743
    @jaekob2743 6 лет назад +1

    Best comparison would be a Toyota Matrix or Pontiac Vibe. Not really hatchbacks but not really crossovers. Sure would be considered a crossover today though!

    • @toyoscio
      @toyoscio 6 лет назад

      Not a real comparison. Matrix and even Vibe can still get parts for, Suzuki eh not so much.

  • @TheCarArchives96
    @TheCarArchives96 13 лет назад +3

    the 2006-present Suzuki SX4/ Changan-Suzuki SX4/ Maruti Suzuki SX4/
    Suzuki Liana (Queensland, Australia)/ Suzuki Neo Baleno (Indonesia) is assembled in
    Esztergom, Hungary
    Kosai, Shizuoka, Japan
    Manesar, India
    Bekasi, Indonesia
    St. Petersburg, Russia

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @lcar4000
    @lcar4000 14 лет назад +1

    i wish Suzuki would bring something like an updated Sidekick or Tracker out--a small version of a Jeep Wrangler with soft top. The Tracker/Sidekick was unbeatable as a cheap, durable SUV.

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  • @manfromnantucket9544
    @manfromnantucket9544 6 лет назад +1

    Thinking about trading in my '06 Torrent AWD for this exact model for winter duty. Worth it?

    • @toyoscio
      @toyoscio 6 лет назад

      Not unless you want a long wait for replacement parts or by 2023 no OEM parts, since Suzuki is set to stop sending them over to NA.

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  • @occultdestroyer
    @occultdestroyer 15 лет назад +3

    You're right about the engine. The Honda Fit is underpowered.
    Looks... It's a 'hate it or love it'.
    No Space? WTF?? O_o
    I own one and it has 57 CUBIC FT of cargo space with the rear seats folded flat.
    That's even more space than most compact/midsize SUVs!!

  • @Myr25636
    @Myr25636 11 лет назад +2

    I bought this car used 6 mths ago. It is generally ok but there are a few issues. As this video points out it drives well but lacks responsiveness---translation-->it takes its time getting from 0 to 60. If you are used to a car with more zoom, its annoying. But the thing that bugs me the most is its 10 gallon gas tank---10 GALLON! I feel like all I do is stop for gas and I'm constantly worried about running out.

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 6 лет назад

      @ganymedeIV4 So is that a good thing or a bad thing?

    • @MavHunter20XX
      @MavHunter20XX 5 лет назад

      @@shinji1264 Bing spare tanks if you're concerned. I drove this SOB everywhere. What ended it was a young asian girl in a black integra

  • @djkenny1202
    @djkenny1202 13 лет назад +2

    I don't see the value in 15 grand. I mean, it is a good car, don't get me wrong. We bought a new Forester for 18 grand, which in the grander scheme is not much more. We are also achieving over 30 mpg highway, and 25 mpg in town with more power too boot and more equipment. If you negotiate (much like we did with the Forester) a new Subaru Impreza in base form should not top 16 grand. Much better value.

  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 15 лет назад +2

    from what i have seen all of the parts in the suzuki sx4 are from suzuki

  • @wppdoes
    @wppdoes 15 лет назад +1

    Wrong again, the Swift chassis DOES have enough room for the AWD system, you can even purchase a Suzuki Swift in Japan with the AWD. And Suzuki itself doesn't consider the SX4 to be a new chassis, in their print literature they DO say it's the stretched global swift platform.

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  • @GoldenSim27
    @GoldenSim27 6 лет назад +2

    sx4 definitively age better than its competitor , resistance to rust is very good compared to the fit , its also much more up to date in design compared to the others , not to speak about the fwd/awd/4x4 modes , not even in the same category as the competitors named here .. more like compared to a subaru legacy and other crossover/awd+cargo

    • @conmanumber1
      @conmanumber1 Год назад

      Wash under car then let dry. Spray with Amsoil M.P Heavy duty. It will really save form corrosion.

  • @SweetWife84
    @SweetWife84 11 лет назад +6

    Fit and Yaris and all other can't go offroad, and Mazda2 only has 100hp, this car has power and utility, 150hp isn't like breath taking, but sure it is a lot of power for mini car

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 15 лет назад

    i did not mean it like that i meant that they use none of the parts from the fiat counter part its there own brand

  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад +1

    So you're saying Suzuki produce all their own parts?

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад

    The two cars use the same parts, to make what is essentially the same car (only differences being the badges and rear light clusters). It would be a silly decision to not share parts.

  • @wtrdogg20
    @wtrdogg20 15 лет назад +1

    I think the SX-4 can take that punishment and more.....BTW, that was a nice video!!

  • @ecosby100
    @ecosby100 13 лет назад

    @lancaster4314 how many miles

  • @remsterk
    @remsterk 12 лет назад

    this car has great fuel economy.. what are you on about?

  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад

    Nope. The Suzuki Swift uses the same platform as the Aveo, but the SX4 does not. The SX4 uses a completely new chassis, as I said; jointly developed by Suzuki and Fiat, which goes to two cars only: the SX4 and Sedici.

    • @TravellinOn2010
      @TravellinOn2010 Год назад

      It's one of the best rally car platforms on the planet, faster off road than a dirt bike and much more comfortable.

  • @pakistani97
    @pakistani97 12 лет назад

    i want a suzuki as a first car,,, how are they? im from pakistan and you see these everywhere there!

  • @Chrispisz12
    @Chrispisz12 13 лет назад +2

    This car is MUCH better looking than the ugly fit

  • @warninshoarmy
    @warninshoarmy 13 лет назад +1

    SX 4 1.6 VVTi 4 A/T front fog lamp FWD ; 1,560L/100km in city,1,700L/100km on highway

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @MTMiPower
    @MTMiPower 5 лет назад +5

    2020 update: AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!

  • @wolfe787
    @wolfe787 15 лет назад

    i have a sx4 but used to have a fit, i stuffed 7 adults in it LoL, but took 5 full adults in a 300 mile trip.... nothing that the sx4 can do better

  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад

    Or.
    Found
    It
    On a
    Tip
    (I have a Panda 4x4 myself - fantastic car)

  • @warninshoarmy
    @warninshoarmy 13 лет назад +1

    SX4 1.6L VVTi 4 A/T with rear fog lamp,front fog lamp ; 13L/100km in city,9L/100km on highway
    SX4 1.9L TDI 4 A/T with rear fog lamp,front fog lamp ; 16L/100km in city,12L/100km on highway

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @cruzzitomorales3700
    @cruzzitomorales3700 Год назад

    i hope ❤ sx4 back again

  • @lancaster4314
    @lancaster4314 15 лет назад +2

    I love ours.

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  • @SlideShowz-f9q
    @SlideShowz-f9q 15 лет назад +1

    nice car but i prefer the more fuel efficient fit n yaris

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @celso1990
    @celso1990 14 лет назад

    I have a nissan versa and I would NEVER buy a honda fit instead of a suzuki sx4! sx4 or a subaru impreza will be my next car!

  • @tallen35875
    @tallen35875 16 лет назад +1

    probably the pontiac vibe AWD

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  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 15 лет назад

    but the sx4 is made by suzuki in japan and has all suzuki parts

  • @JetBlueIce
    @JetBlueIce 15 лет назад

    As far as the "Joint Venture" between Suzuki and Fiat.... the ONLY thing Fiat had to do with the car is fitting a Fiat diesel engine in it, for sale as a Sedici. Other than that, Fiat had nothing to do with the design or engineering of the SX4.

  • @casmatori
    @casmatori 14 лет назад

    My Mom Has One Of These But Hers Is A Fiat That She Got From An Import Center! Its The Same Car, I Guess They're Sharing Bodies?

  • @latoshatanner4531
    @latoshatanner4531 4 года назад +1

    My husband drove mine on a hill side ways with no problem 😂 😂 I love this car I just got mine in March of 2020 and yes it takes time to get up to speed but I love my car

    • @aaronlarsen8412
      @aaronlarsen8412 4 года назад +1

      Nice I love my 2008 version. I'm about to install an $800 sound system into it

    • @aaronlarsen8412
      @aaronlarsen8412 4 года назад

      My friends always trash talk my car so I'm installing an overpowered sound system into it😂

    • @rainthier9532
      @rainthier9532 4 года назад

      I’m glad you like that car, my mom has had hers since it came out and it’s still doing fine 12 years later. If you just keep it maintenance it should last a really long time.

  • @JetBlueIce
    @JetBlueIce 15 лет назад

    Nope: You mean the Suzuki Swift+ not the Suzuki Swift. The Suzuki Swift+ is sold in Canada, and that is not a Suzuki at all, that is a Daewoo, as also the Aveo is a Daewoo.
    The REAL Suzuki Swift has nothing to do with Aveo, it is ALL Suzuki designed engineered and built.
    The Suzuki SX4 is based off of the Suzuki Swift Global Platform. SX4 is a "stretched swift".
    The Fiat Sedici is merely a rebadged SX4, even the Sedici is built by Suzuki in the Suzuki factory in Hungary.

  • @occultdestroyer
    @occultdestroyer 15 лет назад

    I still prefer the Honda Fit.
    Roomier, more spacious, better engine, better interior quality, and higher resale value.

  • @whiskeyindejar
    @whiskeyindejar 15 лет назад

    Do not be fooled--This may be a cheap car --But it is very thirsty and isn't good on gas especially in town or city driving.Looks good enough .I had a test drive and there are serious blind spots for the driver.

    • @GrayGray72Gamez
      @GrayGray72Gamez 5 лет назад +1

      I drive one on the daily as a six speed manual and gas milage is 40 at times I'm gonna call your experience user error

  • @markJohnson-ot7ny
    @markJohnson-ot7ny 6 лет назад +3

    Now that a lot car for the buck! M 😉

    • @toyoscio
      @toyoscio 6 лет назад

      Until it comes time for maintenance

  • @tallen35875
    @tallen35875 16 лет назад +1

    isn't this the same as some fiat car?

    • @diamond3838
      @diamond3838 5 лет назад

      Tyler Allen the designs are identical although there are a few differences to both the exterior and the interior but there’s a totally different chassis. The SX4 is much much better than the Fiat version of the SX4.

  • @tallen35875
    @tallen35875 16 лет назад

    thought so

  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад

    Maybe it's made in Japan, but the suppliers will be the same.

  • @farsideoftheocean
    @farsideoftheocean 13 лет назад

    so what else is wrong with this car?

  • @subzero92MK
    @subzero92MK 14 лет назад

    i like it,it looks a fiat 16

  • @kevcrave
    @kevcrave 15 лет назад +1

    ageed

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      @marciomtb8641 3 года назад

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  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 15 лет назад

    not true all of the parts are suzuki parts

  • @djkasdjkasdjdjdj
    @djkasdjkasdjdjdj 12 лет назад +2

    much better than that shitty overpriced honda fit

    • @diamond3838
      @diamond3838 5 лет назад

      Covert Cam My neighbor has a Honda Fit and I have an SX4 2009 I can easily say in CT, the SX4 in snowy weather is the best. The Honda Fit struggles too much in heavy weather conditions but the SX4 can get through it no problem. The SX4 is the better option imo.

  • @Blessing92
    @Blessing92 15 лет назад

    MMmm better engine???? Ur wrong. I love honda too because of its security and everything but honestly the honda fit looks like a toy, no engine, space???? it has no space, max 4 people.

  • @TMS5100
    @TMS5100 5 лет назад

    suprisingly good car. shame suzuki exited the market.

    • @Celicarz11
      @Celicarz11 5 лет назад

      Do u know how the cvt holds up in this car?

  • @SlideShowz-f9q
    @SlideShowz-f9q 15 лет назад

    dont b fooled by its ground clearance ! even Yaris can do da same off road as SX4

  • @Ezalian
    @Ezalian 16 лет назад

    Yes, Fiat Sedici.

  • @ANM4x4
    @ANM4x4 15 лет назад

    Jointly developed by Fiat/Suzuki, as probably is obvious.

  • @littlebilly5x5
    @littlebilly5x5 13 лет назад

    Waver? What is Waver? LOL

  • @FlickM17
    @FlickM17 15 лет назад

    Fix
    It
    Again
    Toshi
    LOL

  • @djkasdjkasdjdjdj
    @djkasdjkasdjdjdj 16 лет назад

    what the hell with u??

  • @aayonce4
    @aayonce4 6 лет назад

    This review was terrible!

  • @kalargyi
    @kalargyi 14 лет назад

    What is it? a Nissan? I was looking at the chick all this time.

  • @djkasdjkasdjdjdj
    @djkasdjkasdjdjdj 12 лет назад

    same as the honda fit, overpriced cheap hatch, nothing good on it

    • @MavHunter20XX
      @MavHunter20XX 5 лет назад +1

      Honda Fit doesn't get up up mountains and out of snow/mud.