From KMD to MF DOOM | The Origin of a Villain

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • They don’t call him the Villain for no reason. After reemerging as MF DOOM in the late 90s DOOM came back with a vengeance against the music industry but why? To properly understand DOOM’s villainous approach to dealing with the music industry one must recognize and learn about his former group, KMD, and the backstory of their pivotal sophomore album.
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  • @AnAbsurdExistence
    @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +46

    Part 2 of this video
    ruclips.net/video/-yyuSJZ7BQ8/видео.html
    Support MF DOOM by picking up some KMD merch. Gasdrawls.com

    • @broewlie
      @broewlie Год назад

      What is the action figure in your profile picture

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад

      @@broewlie It's from the Strange Ways music video.

  • @condapapa
    @condapapa Год назад +194

    The story of how a villain was born.

  • @jacobidye9226
    @jacobidye9226 Год назад +38

    FINALLY somebody shines some light on Subroc's death. I understand that DOOM died but nobody talks about Subroc and his tragic death rather than DOOM.

    • @belachaney
      @belachaney 2 месяца назад +1

      Cage has talked about Subroc a bit, they were really close friends. Cage said Subroc would call him while Cage was locked up to keep him positive

  • @jordanarnold6783
    @jordanarnold6783 Год назад +16

    As a NYC local: you know how fucked the MTA can be. Sometimes you take a train, to a bus, to friggin' horseback trail.

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +6

      facts, and then your train is only available through shuttle bus 😭

  • @bb-double-yuh
    @bb-double-yuh Год назад +38

    I still consider "Who Me?" by KMD as a top 10-15 song that Dumile has ever partaken in; a catchy upbeat song with fairly upsetting lyrics.

    • @dogsandyoga1743
      @dogsandyoga1743 Месяц назад +1

      They were Ansars, and close to the 5% Nation Of Gods and Earths.
      Very much in line with the black nationalist/pan africanism aka conscious hip hop of the late 80s early 1990s...

  • @antonydrossos5719
    @antonydrossos5719 Год назад +99

    This is an intense, in-depth documentary. We fans kind of knew an anecdotal version of this story, but this is highly detailed!
    Thanks for putting in the time and effort! I’ll be here for episode 2!

  • @DEnZel94
    @DEnZel94 Год назад +68

    KMD Black Bastards has a lot of dark/tragic irony from Subroc referring to himself as a "dead roach" multiple times throughout the album Zev Love X referring to himself as "the maniacal villain" the group being closely associated with Dr. York (infamous sexual predator) and the album's message going at black bourgeoisie for criticizing and losing touch with urban black culture (listen to the second verse of the title track Black Bastards) only for them to be bashed by Billboard critics who fit the same description. KMDs second album is an eerie, tragic, time capsule of potential that wasn't fully reached due to label politics and BS. Thanks for shedding light on this underrated part of DOOMS' career!

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 Год назад +7

      So that’s where “the roach is never dead” came from. Thanks for the knowledge

    • @mustbemeech
      @mustbemeech 5 месяцев назад +3

      Imagine how many great talents you’ve never heard of because of politics and labels

    • @DEnZel94
      @DEnZel94 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@mustbemeech Proably thousands (at least).

  • @tf2349
    @tf2349 Год назад +10

    MF DOOM didn’t pick the right or left path he just went straight through the forest

  • @bklyncrook
    @bklyncrook Год назад +27

    Is too bad we never got the latter years' of Daniel Dumile as himself w/out the mask to explain his process of creating since he guest appeared in Gas Face with 3rd Bass. We have the Red Bull Music Academy interview and such - but, they were always as MF DOOM, so, the questions would be towards DOOM and not the overall body of work of Dumile. Maybe someday, there will be a full documentary on the man from interviewing everybody that knows him which there are a lot of people, from his wife, last surviving member, Onyx of KMD, Dante Ross, all 3 members of 3rd Bass, Kurious, De La Soul, Madlib, Danger Mouse, Czarface, Ghostface, MF Grimm and so many others.

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +14

      honestly it would be my dream to make such a documentary, that would be the magnum opus of An Absurd Existence.
      Unfortunately, I don’t have that kind of reach.

    • @bklyncrook
      @bklyncrook Год назад +6

      @@AnAbsurdExistence - I think the current production house that would do a MF DOOM documentary would be Mass Appeal with Nas since they been pumping out a great amount of docs like about Video Music Box and the Supreme Team with partnering up with Showtime. Would be nice if you get to be a production assistance or something a long the line in their production. I think something like this would require the blessing of his wife first, so, there's a lot of things involve. If there's a way for you to contact Sacha Jenkins who has been doing a lot of documentary with Mass Appeal would probably be the person that would do something with MF DOOM.

  • @gapt33th
    @gapt33th Год назад +24

    Peachfuzz is a bop.

  • @danisreallycool
    @danisreallycool Год назад +7

    I’m from Long Beach and was at this dedication ceremony. I was unaware of the sketchy details on Subroc’s unfortunate death, and I hope his family (who are super cool) know more and have made peace with it. RIP

  • @Ginga
    @Ginga Год назад +16

    “Black Bastards” is an amazing album.

    • @ggyugcxzzf
      @ggyugcxzzf Год назад +4

      X like the flick slick

    • @Cyktar
      @Cyktar Месяц назад +1

      Top 3 Fav DOOM Imo together with MM Food and Tmtyl

  • @parkerknowles4481
    @parkerknowles4481 Год назад +8

    Mans did his research

  • @CHANCEL3R
    @CHANCEL3R Год назад +13

    Your editing continues to get better and better, dawg.

  • @jnm92
    @jnm92 Год назад +21

    They literally made him a Villain

  • @ihsanlegaspi6394
    @ihsanlegaspi6394 Год назад +12

    Another WONDERFUL video! Really shed some light on why he became the mad villain

  • @tylerzimmerman6689
    @tylerzimmerman6689 Год назад +8

    Thank you so much for this video. It inspired me to give Black Bastards a listen and wow does it transcend time. I would have never guessed it was from 1993.

  • @tulebokenxd7384
    @tulebokenxd7384 Год назад +13

    amazing editing and great video all throughout. Can tell you put a lot of effort into it!

  • @LeroyTDF
    @LeroyTDF Год назад +5

    Keep spreading the word brother

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +3

      absolutely, it’s an honor to document the legacy of DOOM 🫡

  • @PaisaSnake
    @PaisaSnake Год назад +11

    YOU NEED MORE CREDIT ! Your content is top notch bro!

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +3

      It wouldn’t be possible without you guys or DOOMs career, I’m thankful for both. 🖤☮️

  • @YaBoiDoi
    @YaBoiDoi Год назад +8

    Soon enough bro is finna tell us how when DOOM died and where💀

  • @HairyHarpy
    @HairyHarpy Год назад +3

    I imagine this video being someone’s introduction to MF DOOM

  • @KellyAesop
    @KellyAesop Год назад +1

    This video is great, well done!

  • @naoh8808
    @naoh8808 Год назад +2

    man that was one wicked cliffhanger, im never gonna forgive you for that. great video tho

  • @lmc7233
    @lmc7233 Год назад +1

    This is some crazy editing, reminds me of nexpo

  • @Cpt.McChillin
    @Cpt.McChillin Год назад +3

    The chronicles of the Mother F*ckin Doom

  • @IllDawgable
    @IllDawgable Год назад +3

    I'm glad you expounded on the fact that the media put a lot of pressure on elektra because of black bastards, although it doesn't justify the label dropping DOOM abruptly. The last time I read about it on wikipedia I found no mention of all the critics who panned the album and shunned the label purely out of aesthetic and not content.

  • @wiz-side
    @wiz-side Год назад +1

    Yo, much respect for putting this out. 💪🏾

  • @kingnorthstar
    @kingnorthstar Год назад +7

    This video was amazing! i really hope if you do make a part two to this You go over Proto-DOOM (when he was still Zev Love X but recorded Songs like Gas Drawls and Dead bent) And i also hope you go over The song he made with Earthquake as well because that song was great, Keep up the good work my friend Amazing video as usual

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +3

      Thank you!! 1997 version of Dead Bent is sooo good.

    • @kingnorthstar
      @kingnorthstar Год назад +1

      @@AnAbsurdExistence Same, I love the way DOOM sounds in the version and i’m glad one of my Favorite Music RUclipsrs Enjoys It as much as me

  • @lowlevelplato
    @lowlevelplato Год назад +2

    Cliff hanger? You villains bastard! Haha great vid. A podcast I listen wizard and the bruiser did a doom episode and idk their source but they said Subroc was crossing the highway on like a dare or something.

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +2

      the plot thickens, I’ll have to keep digging! thanks for the lead.

  • @dylancarcia9266
    @dylancarcia9266 Год назад +1

    Thank you this video really hype for part 2

  • @coreyano
    @coreyano Год назад +6

    I can't believe they just didn't change out the cover. So crazy

  • @chillin4898
    @chillin4898 Год назад

    Man. I love your DOOM videos. Always hyped to see another

  • @trizzical
    @trizzical Год назад

    Been waiting for you to talk about 3rd bass❗️

  • @johnhuston3576
    @johnhuston3576 Год назад

    Another great video can’t wait for part two keep up the deep dive research and quality

  • @mostsanelucioplayer
    @mostsanelucioplayer Год назад

    good to see you back 🤝

  • @vinnyb2947
    @vinnyb2947 Год назад +1

    I heard an interview where dude said subroc died playing around like it was a game they played running across traffic. Maybe I read into that wrong tho cuz me and my boys used to get fucked up and run across the busiest freeway around. Makes you feel fuckin invincible when your 14 and loaded on st. Ides

  • @ComradeCLU
    @ComradeCLU Год назад +1

    Awesome documentary!

  • @dogsandyoga1743
    @dogsandyoga1743 Месяц назад

    I'm 47 and still have both, my Mr Hood cassette, and my Black Bastards bootleg dub. Haven't watched this video yet, but just wanted to like and comment 😊

  • @OnGodGamer
    @OnGodGamer Год назад +1

    Yay new video

  • @earthflex
    @earthflex Год назад

    important video, great job

  • @theundergroundisdead
    @theundergroundisdead Год назад +1

    RIP DOOM, PLUG 2 AND GIFT OF GAB

  • @khoshahk1576
    @khoshahk1576 Год назад +1

    cant wait !

  • @slimyjimmy1589
    @slimyjimmy1589 Год назад +2

    Man got cancelled before getting cancelled was a thing. No wonder he became a super villain.

  • @DannyMillman.
    @DannyMillman. Год назад

    Great video!

  • @FromThe36thChamber
    @FromThe36thChamber 5 месяцев назад

    Wait I had no idea Cage was the last person seen with Subroc thats wild

  • @enochi777
    @enochi777 Год назад +1

    it’s weird how i’m watching this on april 23 3:52

    • @XyGemini
      @XyGemini Год назад +1

      Sub has been gone for 30 years now.😢

  • @bbqueen1632
    @bbqueen1632 Год назад

    I can’t wait for the next video.

  • @Rayrockny
    @Rayrockny 3 месяца назад

    Onyx is the last member of KMD and he's still alive and well.

  • @RW1A
    @RW1A 3 месяца назад

    This video made me want to buy the black bastards album and now ill have it by the end of the week

  • @pj7352
    @pj7352 Год назад +2

    whats up chairman bob

  • @SomerandomShmuck
    @SomerandomShmuck 11 месяцев назад

    Rest In Peace DJ Subroc, u meant everything to the world and ur brother man, ❤️

  • @djds1975
    @djds1975 Год назад

    Great work 👌

  • @HenrikHensHuber
    @HenrikHensHuber Год назад

    Great vid! Great research

  • @sleepythumb
    @sleepythumb 6 месяцев назад

    Top notch shit bro ❤

  • @AppleShortss
    @AppleShortss Год назад

    Nicely done

  • @kevincarlo4407
    @kevincarlo4407 Год назад

    Great video. As a hip hop fan of a certain age.... I remember Mr. Hood was far from a big success sales wise, even critically they were over-shadowed by Brand Nubian at the label. I even saw cut-out CD's at a dollar store. Easy for the non hip-hop execs at Elektra to shelve the album.

  • @mrmass71
    @mrmass71 Год назад

    The origin story - nice.

  • @burntkanyebaggins
    @burntkanyebaggins Год назад

    need the next vid 🙏🏽

  • @randyrichmondiii3415
    @randyrichmondiii3415 Год назад +3

    Hearing DOOM be so on the beat is a little off putting hearing KMD for the first time

    • @kw2519
      @kw2519 Год назад +3

      Right? It’s almost bizarre. But there really is a fundamental and philosophical difference between Daniel before and another the loss of his brother.

  • @povdylan1021
    @povdylan1021 Год назад

    The PRODUCT ITS AMAZING

  • @lobotomyscam1051
    @lobotomyscam1051 4 месяца назад

    A POSITIVE Kause in a Much Damaged Society

    • @nubunamunupu1985
      @nubunamunupu1985 2 месяца назад

      They got their name from a True Light tape..when Imaam Isa said "You need to be a positive cause in a much damaged society ".

  • @britishuranium7692
    @britishuranium7692 Год назад +1

    You should rank every DOOM song

  • @band-aidbreath2890
    @band-aidbreath2890 Год назад +1

    What I wanna know, is how you've only got 87k subscribers.

  • @tyrreek
    @tyrreek Год назад

    Nice vid

  • @JazzyAnasazi
    @JazzyAnasazi Год назад

    Don't try to hide the Inkspots guitar riff in that intro, I know that shit from Fallout 3 anywhere boi lmao

  • @privateblkldy
    @privateblkldy 2 дня назад

    I heard his brother was on a bike. Ever heard that?

  • @MADWEIRD
    @MADWEIRD Год назад +1

    Yes!!!

  • @cesarbaca5297
    @cesarbaca5297 Год назад

    Back in 98 I had a copy of Black Bastards on heavy rotation in the wearhouse I worked at👊🏼

  • @CELL8OY
    @CELL8OY 10 месяцев назад +1

    What song did you use when you had the memorial for Subroc? 5:16

  • @wr6th
    @wr6th Год назад

    Can you do about Death grips iceberg🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @alexandercavazos2732
    @alexandercavazos2732 Год назад

    “I keep a flic of you, with a machete sword in your hand, everything is going according to plan, man”

  • @djboogie09
    @djboogie09 Год назад

    why at like 8:10 did the kira yoshikage theme start to play,lol

  • @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630
    @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630 10 месяцев назад

    I really need to know what he did between kmd and 1994 its almost like he totally disappeared. I know he used to wear a stocking balaclava and rap at spoken word bars and cafes

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  10 месяцев назад

      Oh, you mean between 1994 and 1997, after Black Bastards

  • @wanderer_42_
    @wanderer_42_ Год назад +1

    What is the tune starting at 1:35 , it sounds so familiar?

    • @paekass6157
      @paekass6157 9 месяцев назад

      Thps - Roland Carriage

  • @marvin469
    @marvin469 Год назад +1

    KMD 👍

  • @NihilisticVariable
    @NihilisticVariable Год назад

    Pls make a vid about MF DOOM fan albums

  • @davuddacic3737
    @davuddacic3737 Год назад

    Better Call Saul style opening bruh Bru h

  • @alibls1452
    @alibls1452 Год назад

    1:38 :)))
    Ps: does anybody know where that selfie came from? I've seen it on reddit and in memes but never found the source

  • @DogeBow
    @DogeBow Год назад +1

    ​the super villain

  • @chuychongas
    @chuychongas Год назад

    🖤

  • @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630
    @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630 10 месяцев назад

    Nah, sub roc was drunk and didn't wanna pay the toll for the train so he was heading home the long way from his long nigjt

  • @BigMonke419
    @BigMonke419 11 месяцев назад

    He died on my b-day damn

  • @waffensuperninja
    @waffensuperninja Год назад

    Dope

  • @CaptainBara
    @CaptainBara 9 месяцев назад

    underrated\

  • @snowpt
    @snowpt Год назад

    Lets gooo

  • @bigpoo7560
    @bigpoo7560 Год назад +2

    el femboy

  • @THEPASSIONATEBREED
    @THEPASSIONATEBREED 5 месяцев назад

    1:35 why does this sound like tony hawk pro skater??

  • @gogoclickbait9780
    @gogoclickbait9780 Год назад +1

    why do premieres fuck up yt, this sht was not recommended to me

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Год назад +1

      unfortunate, try turning on notifications for my channel if you don’t want to miss future videos

  • @honestlynuts__
    @honestlynuts__ Год назад

    Ayyy

  • @Valentine_1033
    @Valentine_1033 Год назад

    W video

  • @tiomar74
    @tiomar74 Год назад +1

    LMAO 1:37

  • @bk2use
    @bk2use 3 месяца назад

    9:52

  • @broewlie
    @broewlie Год назад

    What figure is the one is your profile picture?

  • @callmerero7202
    @callmerero7202 Год назад

    Bro can you please tell me the first song in the video

  • @ummwhat7510
    @ummwhat7510 Год назад +1

    1:35 what’s the songggg

    • @paekass6157
      @paekass6157 9 месяцев назад

      Thps - Roland Carriage

    • @ummwhat7510
      @ummwhat7510 9 месяцев назад

      @@paekass6157thank you

  • @klaavsgg
    @klaavsgg Год назад

    what is that instrumental at the end? shame it got cut out

  • @MFSHARTY
    @MFSHARTY Год назад

    Doom

  • @bobbyglomp
    @bobbyglomp Год назад

    Saw this video dropped and had to hit up Operation:Doomsday in its fullest before I watched it.
    Holy shit.

  • @Terrapin47-s8y
    @Terrapin47-s8y Год назад +1

    I dont like when people say "one of the greatest underground (insert thing here) of all time".. like.. is it great or not? if it truly is, i think its valid to ditch the "underground" and just call it great