@@thiccosaurus4033 actually he wasn't superman said that he wont hurt children in the second injustice and flash replied two words: *billy baston* confirming that was a child
@Screaming Soldier it does in this case because he was a child and a man capable of killing another is something common and not extreme as being capable of even thinking about hurting a child let alone make a hole between his eyes!
Only criminals can enter fear me. Shazam and Green Arrow weren't criminals! Casualties of war. How come you're not have regrets, Victor? Because I know we did the right thing. 2 words: Billy Batson! Shazam's death shouldn't have faced you! Killing children is never ok! He was sacrifice for the greater good!
“Joker nuked Metropolis? Insurgency? You saw me kIll Shazam and Lois?! You sound like banes been hitting you to hard Bruce old pal. Now come on, the Justice Leagues waiting for us at the watch tower! I’ll fly you there!”
There is a good ending for real in that ending joker try to kill lois but batman save her at the last moment and than find the bombs but superman almost kills joker but batman manage to calm him down and than batman put joker in his car and started talking to him in his way and joker started laughing and saying he would try to do it again to superman and batman gets angry and kills for superman for the first time after that he go to the police and surrenders and when superman visit him he say"you were gone everyone thing you ever belived just for me" and breaks the cells and hugs batman and tell him say the word and you are out of here batman refuse and say he have to take the time he killed a man but superman say that the joker isn't a man but batman was sure about himself and superman left and says thank you
Joker got exactly what he wanted. Like, imagine how funny it must have been for him that Gordon never went nuts over his one bad day but the bulwark of all that is good, superman turns absolute dictator because of one little plan of his. Like, setting up the nuke and killing Lois had less creativity than anything he had done in the Killing Joke and it worked. And the best part is, Clark is too driven by his fear and hatred to realise this.
They always do Shazam dirty😭 damn man billy was the only one with balls who tried to go against superman’s craziness at the end. His actions did inspire flash to switch sides though. Shazam is a G
@@melvingenao550 if he tried that, he'd get one shotted out, she nearly killed wally was horrified he touched the soulself it was so cold like death he both felt (all of raven's hatred, saw trigon) and he said "get away from me raven. Stay away. You would've killed me" he even described her as rotten and even broke captain atom's arms while she was unconscious. It wouldn't matter if he hit her physically, the soulself will come out and rip her apart Raven is far faster than superman, her soulself caught up with wally west while he was inside the speed force and flew so fast that parallax couldn't catch her and bypassed the heaven army and reached the gates of heaven like a hot knife cutting through butter and in rebirth raven and Jericho Pulled three flashes out of the speed force via soulself Raven's soulself is basically the kryptonite of the speedsters it has extra dimensional energy Raven's speed and teleportation are top notch, they're basically if you put minato and obito under the comic writers Raven's soulself is a very broken ability it's essentially what the Kamui is to Obito Uchiha there's a whole pocket dimension in her soulself and she has an absurd healing factor she could regenerate from a soul she survived her soul being shattered apart then reformed immediately and the soulself ate all of Orion's rage like and swallowed all of his anger like water. Superman gets foddestomped hard, Raven's soulself is a shapeless void busted with too much extra dimensional energy Raven's soulself wally many times and caught bart as well, do some research before posting wrong info Raven is a dimensional being living in the 3rd world, she's a mini Trigon in the 3rd dimension.
@@eivor3975 the soulself is a nexus point actually like it was explained in teen titans #30 (2003) it has a heaven purgatory 9 hells and 11 after lives
@@melvingenao550 all i meant is they did her dirty which is true like how harley is getting more screen time DC loves doing raven dirty for some reason and her she had no character in this storyline also no character development. I wish they put her on justice league dark movie instead of batman lime that would've made more sense cause she would fit and makes more sense.
In Injustice, anytime Superman would make an argument about how he was 'helping people' and think he might have a point, i always think back to this moment. The man killed a child just for mentioning Lois. And it wasn't a swift death either! He silenced his screams and burned a hole through him! It also makes me wonder, has anyone actually adressed Shazam death in the comics?
@@ridgefrost Ollie I can see the faintest of reason as he actually attacked Superman, even if the intention was to hurt, and not only that but they were on opposite sides. Manhunter death I blame more on Wonder Woman
@@dspace4514 was he really? Even someone of superman's calliber doesn't really pose that much of a threat to him much less a normal human and he knows that, but regardless, supes could have just oneshotted him but instead he beat him slowly and painfully to death there's no diverting blame here, supes was pure evil in injustice
Superman: Only criminals can enter fear me. Batman: Shazam and Green Arrow weren't criminals! Superman: Casualties of war. Me: Yeah! A "war" that you started, Superman. Flash: How come you're not have regrets, Victor? Cyborg: Because I know we did the right thing. Flash: 2 words: Billy Batson! Me: Yeah you tell that tin can, Flash. Black Adam: Shazam's death shouldn't have faced you! Flash: Killing children is never ok! Black Adam: He was sacrifice for the greater good! Me: That wasn't sacrifice, Black Adam! Superman killed Billy Batson. How is that a sacrifice?
I noticed it too. Immediately siding with the bad guy, then he caught himself. “Thanks, Billy” was just a way to keep Shazam on his team a little longer
Fr, how can someone with the powers of six fucking GODS is weaker than an alien who's weakness is a green rock. Ig dc just wanted superman to be superior and more popular
@@fedorarafi2603 Superman is pretty powerful though, someone in another reply section pointed out how the ice held back black adam before and how superman's heat vision was able to destroy doomsday. Plus Superman in his good guy form is always holding back so I don't think we've found out the extent of his capacities.
The way I see this is that even with the wisdom of Solomon he never thought his idol would do this to him. So in that moment of doubt his defenses were low enough supes took advantage. His ice was strong enough to hold Black Adam’s entire body for an extended period. So I think it’s fair that in turn a piece could briefly keep his mouth sealed. Supes was able to fuckin lobotomize doomsday so his heat vision definitely had the capacity. The fact was this was Superman’s final step. The murder of not only an innocent. But a child. That was his final descent into evil.
This is why I will never agree with his philosophy. I’m totally for killing the Joker and a VERY SELECT FEW criminals and monsters, but Billy Batson was neither, just like Huntress, just like Green Arrow.
But... you're fine with him overturning all democracy around the world and turning it into an authoritarian regime predicated on fear and his might alone?
@@papaofthejohns5882 You did read my comment right? I said I don’t and will never agree with his philosophy. His philosophy led to his actions. Therefore I don’t agree with his actions
@@papaofthejohns5882 Supes had a point at the start, imo. Joker deserved to die. Governments shouldn't bomb people. Oppression and murder of innocents should be prevented, whether it is from some local villain or a high ranking politician. And then he started going against that philosophy when he dumped Atlantis in the middle of the desert. I still disagree with batman's extreme no-kill, hands off oppressive governments stance, and he's pretty warmongery with his insurgency too, but he's leagues better than Superman here.
@@thecompetitor4418 if he was going to do that, he'd have done it after the nuke when wally died. My guess is they'll go with the bad ending, supes will lose what little friends he has, except ww, supes will keep most of the villains either by mind control or fear, Damien will free Bruce, and they'll come up with a mcguffin to stop supes from mind controlling the planet (probably with the anti life equation) leaving him brain dead.
i agree but having wisdom is different from having knowlege and just not being able to know what line this superman would and would not cross well thats a yikes
@@ginoportugal9203 you need to remember this is superman up until injustice he was the exact same as our regular superman same feats same everything its understandable that even until the end people doubted the level of his cruel nature
I'm going to answer that. People justify Superman's actions because letting evil people continue to kill millions and, as punishment, sending them to jail or an insane asylum only for them to break out is self defeating. Now I get Batman's reasons on why Superman did was wrong. But to say that killing someone and, as a result, you becoming a monster is reaching a bit. I don't think every superhero that ends up killing a person becomes a monster. Hell there are a lot of superheroes in the comics that do kill people and are NOT monsters. In superman's case, he shouldn't have killed the joker because he did become a monster for it. But that doesn't apply to everyone. If you could kill someone knowing that this person's death will prevent many deaths, wouldn't you do it? Not all villains should be killed. But some villains deserve to die. I believe killing is acceptable depending on who the villain is.
@@thiccosaurus4033 i guess they retconed it since in injustice 2 one of the blue beetle vs superman dialogues is supes saying he doesn't kill kids and beetle responding "what about Shazam?"
@@michealfoster4411 wow if thats the case than that is just ridiculous they dont want to let anyone besides batman hold a candle to supes and thats just because hes the companies money maker
Shazam has the awareness of Gods, he should've been able to sense Superman's intention. No way he would just stand there and let his eye beams sear through his head.
@@memesarekeem The man's nerfed. No common sense not even the Wisdom of Solomon can help him. He was Superman's equal hell even stronger than Superman in the old comic books but alas.
I always thought this was stupid, there is no way superman could just blast through Shazam like that, and there was no way Shazam wasn’t going to fight back
@@bladeslad8434 actually he wasn’t, the injustice comics are based off the game, and in the game you can play as Shazam, Shazam can clearly be seen as a child that transforms into his adult form, also he’s referred to as a kid in both the games and the comics
Not gonna lie, when Injustice (the game) was first released... its story roped me in. Especially the fact that, for the first time ever, I was actually afraid of a fictional character who, up to that point, in one way or another was always a good guy, THE good guy. It made me understand the motivations of Amanda Waller and Cadmus in the Justice League tv series. An evil Justice League, an evil Superman... next to unstoppable. The only thing I found to be highly frustrating about the story was, after finishing the story mode in the game, going through most of the comics. Specifically, the many, many near-deaths and near-defeats they wrote up for Superman, only to have them being taken apart again, sometimes in the most ridiculous fashion - because they couldn't contradict (most of) the game and its outcome.
@@thekingant2726 He was Shazam not Billy, he was trying to say Shazam to hit Supes with the lightning Billy was a teenager at this point and doesn't walk around in a Shazam costume
@@JTK-th5wx that would have been stupid, he was in danger the moment that lightning touches him, he loses his power he wouldn't have done that unless he had to and why would he need lightning from the sky to strike supes, he can cast lightning from his hands
The comic book designs and the game designs aren’t the same, granted a lot of things are different in the comic than the game. But the most hilarious change in this scene where Clark kills Shazam, is that they gave Black Adam hair where in the game he’s bald. …Still this is the most fucked up moment in Injustice, how can anyone stay with Superman after what he did to Billy. It has to be because of fear, tho I’m not sure with Wonder Woman since she is a lot cold hearted in Injustice.
Yellow lantern, Hawkgirl is probably because of fear. Sinestro, Black Adam & WW agree with this superman. Raven is just a double-opp plant. Her purpose working with the regime is inevtiably to betray them to trigon when he returns. Cyborg is because of a mix of Loyalty, fear & agreement. Then of course Grundy is because of brainwash.
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 That love wouldn't mean much if she didn't agree with Superman's authoritarian regime - She was literally the one always pushing and prodding him further into his descent into ruling the world, through fear and force.
It makes me so sad because i'm sure Shazam thought about the past before dying, maybe he was in shock because of Superman(and because he was still a young kid), the one who thanked him now was grabbing his neck, about to kill him. Think about it, there are many ways he could have escaped the only thing he managed to do while thinking this was spelling Shazam. This was hard to assimilate the first time i watched this scene in the videogame.
If this was regular Supes before his "fall from grace" yes but this is Supes who believes he is right and has no problem with killing now, Evil Supes vs Shazam is not going to be a contest because Shazam isn't going to kill and Supes is, Supes made his decision as soon as Shazam tried to make his point about it being wrong at that point Supes decided to eliminate a potential huge ally for Batman's team
It's why I laugh when people say "Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker?" Apart from The Batman Who Laughs becoming a thing, the Joker literally wins once you snap and kill him.
@@DamienDarksideBlog He also wins when the DC Universe's justice system (unintentionally or not) refuses to send him to the chair no matter what he's done.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Yes and no. Yes, he wins, because he gets to go and keep going. No, because the point he's trying to prove has yet to be proven. Without breaking down the entire character, Joker's philosophy is that the concepts of "order", "laws", and "justice" are basically just bad jokes. That humans are nothing more than violent, insane beasts with delusions of self-importance, erecting feeble barriers to hide us from ourselves. He seeks to tear down those constructs and prove them to be mere illusions. If he, the ultimate embodiment of chaos is killed, he managed to get them to break the rules, proving him and his worldview correct. He ESPECIALLY wants the Batman, the ultimate paragon of order and self-control, to be the one to kill him. In Injustice, he settled for another one of the great pillars of moral order breaking to prove his point. And THAT'S why Joker won in the Injustice universe. A good counter question I thought of while I was writing this is "But if the justice system sentences him to death, wouldn't that mean he loses? After all, the system of order and laws are what killed him." Perhaps. That's another question, but ultimately irrelevant. The fact that he HASN'T been put to death by now must mean that Gotham doesn't have a death penalty. And I could be wrong here, but I feel that if Gotham reformed it's laws to allow for the Death Penalty SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of people like Joker that it would still, ultimately, prove his point. Because the justice system of Gotham would have had to break it's previously established code in order to deal with him. Also in hindsight it's dumb that I said "without breaking down the entire character" and then proceeded to break down the entire character
Ragman : He's innocent! *Innocent Shazam proceeds to blow him apart with Lightning for having a different opinion about Superman That part just felt weird
You do know Shazam didn’t kill him, right? The lightning bolt just knocked Ragman out, forcing him to release Superman. Then the Spectre arrived and killed Ragman. Shazam tried to stop him, but to no avail.
DC comics has taken the golden ages best superhero and turned him into a mentally discombobulated one trick pony. Any fights he gets in he loses, the Rock Of Eternity should be off limits to everybody just like the batcave, fortress of solitude and wonder woman's island. The best thing DC comics should do to Captain Marvel is just shelve him until a competent reworking of his history can be done.
@@egekazkayas8968 He's not even second banana status. A golden age superhero taking orders from the teen titans, has his rogues gallery been improved, how often are his fellow Fawcett superheroes used. When they made Billy lord marvel that would have been the direction to have gone in but they always go with the mental issues and I'm sick and tired of it.
There should have been a fight that leveled the building in the process. Even without holding back, Killing Captain Marvel should've been so difficult for Superman to where it took the help of Wonder Woman and others to finally get it done...It's interesting that Hawkman wielding a kryptonite mace was able to do more harm to Superman than Shazam was allowed to-
Shazam doesn't really have pwers outside of the flight and lightning. Super strength, too. Problem is, once his mouth was frozen, SUpes is easily faster and stronger. There was only one way the "fight" could go
@@corjonbett wrong. In the injustice comics Hercules was beating Supes ass, and Supe is scared shitless of Zues. MIND YOU SHAZAM HAS BOTH THESE GUYS POWERS
He didnt kill Captain marvel here he killed billy i dont know why billy looked so old but he was already a teenager around year 5 so that's prolly why but you can see superman freeze his mouth when he tries to say shazam so that's how we know its billy.
A friendly reminder that there's another version of superman who also lost lois lane but still held on to justice and order. And that superman is older and even stronger than this superman
Isnt just lois lane tho he didnt turn evil just because louis died is the circumstances influence of those around him and years of pain all together on the comics you can see how he didnt actually turn evil at the spot the moment lois died
Shazam was never Superman’s equal. When Superman stops holding back, even the earth’s mightiest mortal is a child’s play. Oh wait shazam is a child so yea.
These videos regularly highlight fights I've somehow missed and remind me go and buy the issues they're from, you're doing good work and I hope the copyright strikes stay away 👌
I wouldn't think he and Ollie were casualties of war. They were just sacrifices Superman had to, CHOSE to, make in order to "protect the world" and "help the people". The question is, are those sacrifices truly worth it? I think we all know the answer here.
What doesn't make any real sense is how Billy is still dead, his soul is literally linked to the Rock of Eternity, in reality his soul would end up there and eventually be reconstituted by the magical energies there. Connections to insanely powerful Godlike Beings like Zeus or Atlas don't come lightly, hell he'd likely end up in Olympus and be reconstituted by Zeus himself if not free himself from Hades.
@@JTK-th5wx he was in his human form, why would billy yell shazam while in danger knowing well if the lightning touches him he'll revert back to human, he was a teen wearing his costume in injustice
@@ridgefrost he sometimes uses the lightning bolt offensively against creatures vulnerable to magic. As a speedster (he has Mercury's speed) he could generate lightning the way that the Flash does but that kind would likely not be magical.
This is the scene from the game that made me believe Injustice!Superman is evil. Yes, tragic past, but he is so warped by his own pain that he sees a boy trying to do the right thing as an enemy to be disposed of. A child maliciously murdered because he was 'upset'.
he threatened to murder an entire city full of children... because Arthur refused to "surrender" to him... he openly stated that Shazam had been *AGAINST* making that threat in the first place... his plan here was to *STRAIGHT UP MURDER >>>TWO CITIES
I actually like this scene. Shazam could put up a fight if he was ready for one, but he wasn’t here. He was caught off guard by his hero, he never expected Superman to kill him.
I still don’t understand how Superman is constantly & consistently beating Shazam who has the power of 6 gods Zeus & Hercules have beaten Superman already but Shazam can’t That baffles me totally
Because when Superman stops caring, things go south mostly.....keep in mind an older Superman a direct punch from Hercules and didn't even get shifted at all. Also if he wanted he could just heat vision Zues because simple counter to a coward that intangs their body to avoid a soft pat from Superman.
My Guy was given: The Wisdom Of Solomon, The Strength Of Hercules, The Stamina Of Atlas, The Power Of Zeus, The Courage Of Achilles, And Most Importantly… *THE SPEED OF MERCURY* ( AKA HERMES, Literally The God Of Messengers/Speed ) And Billy Batson ( SHAZAM ) Couldn’t even react to Superman.
As tragic and horrific as this was, I was questioning how Superman's heat vision managed to burn through being with magical invulnerability who's tanked it in the past.
Plot Just like they forgot shazam is just as strong as supes matter of fact stronger since he beatdown Hercules who trashed both supes and wonder woman And he can conjure lighting in his hands
@@legendarygrimlock4471+ Yeah, Superman got a LOT of concessions and PIS/Plot Armour in this series. There's a litany of characters who could have taken him out just on earth alone so they had to keep finding ways to get around and/or take out these characters first. Shazam I think posed so much of a problem (to the point theynuad to resort to PIS like this) because he was on side with Superman right from the start and, because of that, got a lot of screen time. This in turn showed us just how incredibly powerful Shazam really was and as you mentioned, in a couple of cases, actually appeared to be superior to Clark. So by the time it came around to having him taken out of the picture, they didn't really know what to do and had kind of written themselves into a corner. It was inevitable too because Billy, being who he is, was always too moral and too strong in his convictions (despite being more easily manipulated due to being a child) to stay loyal to Superman past a certain point so he was gonna have to go eventually. And they couldn't have him joining the rebels because 1v1 he could take out just about any other member of team Superman. With a powerhouse like that who could actually oppose Clark and stand up to him, other members of Team Supes who were discontented with his "rule" (like Aquaman who was only there due to Superman strongarming him with the threat of dumping Atlantis in the desert and not being able to stop it himself) would eventually start to side with the Insurrection and Clark would end up losing too many allies to feasibly remain dominant.
Remember Billy's suit is White when transformed and about 7 years have passed since Billy was 10. He is 17 and wearing a costume. He wanted to transform when that A-hole lasered his head.
@@thedelordhimselfgokublack+ Y'know have thought about it this way. I mean, his costume matches what he usually wears when he's powered up in the Injustice Universe and in the game so (at least this late into the story) and he looks pretty built at the time so I figured he was just powered up already but if not, then that would explain a lot.
I hate how Shazam helped him through so much and supes just turns around and kills him disregarding their long time friendship But let's also think of this from a story point If Shazam was written properly in this verse he and flash would be on the insurgency and the fight would've been over alot quicker then it should be
There was a time where Captain Marvel (Shazam) was more powerful and more popular than Superman… I think this was the most shocking and terrible thing about Injustice. Especially to go out that way.
@@TheSuperboy_Prime But Shazam is not just some normal flying superhero, he got the powers of gods, he can do more than flying, a punching, or even using lightning, he has more power than Superman
@@TheSuperboy_Prime ONLY when the writing and plot demands it. Otherwise, Shazaam has everything needed to kill superman. He is said to be even faster than Superman, not flash fast but close. What a joke of a fanboy atleast reconie that superman is only as strong as the plot demands it
See, this is the moment i truly started to hate injustice because wjr was battle of ideologies became a "batman good superman bad" story I refuse to believe that a superman raised by the Kent Would kill a kid In cold blood corrupted or not That scene is alo not logical at all. There is no way In hell superman woud kill Shazam so easily It Could have been fer better if Shazam just decided to change sides. À bit like spider-man In the civil war comic
It really is something that should have given Superman pause at the VERY least. It wasn't like Billy was constantly agitating and questioning, being the Starscream who finally went too far in provoking Superman. This is the boy who always believed in Superman, always backed him up, always believed in him even when Superman's oldest friends turned on him. Even if Superman DID just off him in a moment of rage... which he really SHOULDN'T have because the scene just wasn't that charged... there should have been a moment, a pause, a skip where Superman was faced with what he had done, what he had become, and given a turning point, a chance to turn back, and made the decision to keep going. The biggest flaw in Injustice is that Superman never seems to really struggle with killing. He just dives into it with both feet before the Joker's body is even cold and never really looks back. I feel like there should have been more of an internal struggle for him to make it more believable that this IS the Clark Kent we know, just continually taking the turn down the darker path at every crossroads. Granted, the majority of my knowledge of it is from the game, where he's pretty two-dimensional even in the sequel.
But have you read the year one to five comics? But you are right it isn't like superman, but joker had pushed him to the limit... Basically the joker wins by having superman kill him... Mostly because joker wants to show that hero's that hold the law can be Worser than the criminal's... This is how scary the joker can be.. Its why he try's to have Batman kill him.. Or the joker wins and the world enters a un-escapeable anarchy state... But yeah Joker pushed him by drugging him and making him kill his wife and unborn child, mistaking Lois for doomsday...
Yeah this is a story of Superman killing Shazam years into him becoming a dictator, mind you prior to this he had a yellow lantern ring, read the rest of the story then come back
I love what if stories but hate seeing power houses written off so quick even if superman is stronger than shazam (which he shouldn't be hes afraid of zues in this story and shazam is literally zues plus more). He isn't faster or even smarter shazam literally has the wisdom of KING SOLOMON as just a super power. And Martian Manhunter has feats that put pre crisis feats that put him well above superman like when three superman couldn't slow him down superboy prime Martian Manhunter laid him out in one punch. I like superman being strong and a power house but only on Earth like how Reed Richards isn't the smartest when he leaves earth but isn't useless
@@williamdavis5711 What I mean is he isn't breathing. Your brain gets fucked up if you don't get access to Oxygen. Although I don't know maybe he could have better instincts to fucking call a Lighting or another power to help him without the need of thinking xd
Superman: Only criminals should fear me Batman: Shazam and Green Arrow were criminals? Superman: casualties of War Me: the ends do not justify the action of a mad dictator.
@@sptflcrw8583 superman, shazam, and black adam have always been pretty even in terms of physical strength with superman saying many times that shazam was one of the few physical equals to himself. Only reason shazam died is because of bullshit.
Umm... Invulnerability of Achilles? I keep flashing back on the Superman movie where Supes takes a bullet to the eyeball and it flattens rather than penetrate. Invulnerable means you don't get to burn out his eyeballs no matter how kewl you think it would be. You want to hurt Shazam? How would you hurt Achilles?
Now, take a look at the actual Greek mythology. Achilles was a fearless mortal general who led his troops from the front lines. He could afford to be so bold, unlike other mortals, because *nothing could hurt him.* Achilles was granted this immunity to harm when, as an infant, his mother took him to the banks of the river Styx which separated the land of the living from the land of the dead, and dipped him in its waters from head to toe. Only his heels escaped this babtism, because that's where she held onto him. From that day on, no blade could cut him, no arrow or spear could pierce him, no fire could burn, etc, etc. Except on his heels. When we say that kryptonite is Superman's achilles' heel, this is where that comes from.
Superman: Only criminals can enter fear me. Batman: Shazam and Green Arrow weren't criminals! Superman: Casualties of war! Flash: How come you're not have regrets, Victor? Cyborg: Because I know we did the right thing. Flash: 2 words: Billy Batson! Black Adam: Shazam's death shouldn't have faced you! Flash: Killing children is never ok! Black Adam: He was sacrifice for the greater good!
So utterly tired of the "Superman broke and turned evil" bit. I don't mind it when Superman-analogues like the guy from Invincible or Waid's Irredeemable turn evil, but having Clark do so himself is absurd. Much as I can't stand Waid as a person, he got it right with Kingdom Come, and had Superman come as close as is possible with his character - but he was reminded of who he is, and relented. This nonsense of "I'm going to just start slaughtering civilians to prove a point" is absolutely not Superman. Not by a mile.
@@The_dude12 - Skewered Richard Meyer’s deal to have a comic published by Antarctic, rather than self-publishing it. Contacted the publisher himself to pressure them.
Nice to see DC hasn't stopped ROFL stomping a great character who was once a rival of Superman's in a prior company. DC's Shazam's runs remind me of the WWE take over of WCW they talk about in the 90's. Such a great character, and potential game changer, but always treated like a ho Vegeta. Shame.
Poor guy just wanted to convince Superman into not making things worse. What is more wrong. A kid calling ur wife’s name or u killing that kid for that?
The crazy thing is that I don’t even think Shazam was going to say the word Shazam to intentionally hurt Superman. I think he was trying to show Superman what he was doing it to show Superman who he was killing: a child. Superman stopped him from saying the word to convince himself and the world he didn’t kill a kid.
Ok I don't why some people side with Superman and still think he is right especially after they saw him kill not just an innocent but a freaking kid that's a low blow man if it was me I would have gone to Batman's side right away after that, plus it hurts even more when you remember that Billy idolized Superman and in the end is killed by him man this hurts me just typing this
I still call him Captain Marvel. Geoff Johns only changed his hero name because “that’s what people thought he was called”. You can’t call yourself the word that transforms you when you speak it. Plus that’s the wizard’s name anyway.
@MrShisuto - Shazam’s Captain Marvel first appeared in 1940. Marvel’s Captain Marvel first appeared in 1967. Plus, think about it: 1) When Billy Batson says the word “Shazam” at any point in time he transforms to and back. Making such a word your hero name is too risky if you tell people who you are. 2) The wizard is also named Shazam so there can’t be two characters with the same exact hero based name that’ll make things confusing. 3) Teth-Adam also uses the magic word Shazam to transform into Black Adam and you don’t see him calling himself Shazam.
@@STH151NicoleFan true. It’s just a shame that they couldn’t come up with some other name besides Captain Marvel. Iconic, sure. But it just doesn’t have the same impact as Shazam.
@MrShisuto - Billy almost called himself Captain Marvel in “Shazam!” #1 but was cut off. If they did give him a different name they should at least let him keep “Captain” in it.
martian manhunter made sense in the context of injustice where the setting was just "fire is MMH weakness", but it was repeated multiple times that shazam was stronger than supes, say when he bullied hercules, who managed to more or less 3v1 hal, WW and supes
@@typeouetco1626 exactly. Literally the H part of SHAZAM means the strength of Hercules, the other abilities just pile onto that. I think the only case it would make sense for Superman to defeat Shazam is if Superman is sun dipped or has been exposed to the sun for long periods of time(Kingdom Come Superman since Hercules couldn’t even move him an inch)
@@typeouetco1626 the context of injustice itself is nonsense anyway with none of the scaling really working. It has to be specifically fire that hurts MMH not just the intense head from fire, he’s taking beams from superman before, and I doubt wonder womans body would catch flame. Also it seems out of character how quick he was to try and kill WW.
What would have made more sense was if Shazam pushed Superman away, they fight, and it seems like Shazam is winning to WW jumps in, and they both hang up on Shazam, killing him. I know it’s not a perfect way for him to die, but I think it’s better than letting Superman blow holes into his eyes
SHAZAM SHOULD BEAT SUPERMAN every single time in a few minutes. My problem with this is to pretend that saying Shazam is that slow. Also since Captain Marvel was most popular than Superman until DC got the character I always find them to do Shazam dirty. By virtue of the Gods, SHAZAM is way smarter than Superman even if Billy is a child. You can blame that Billy's inmaturity takes over Solomon's intellect just how Billy's human strenght doesnt take over Hercules when he is Shazam. Superman is weak to magic... Shazam is all magic. Superman's heat vision is not faster than ZEUS' lightning which by the way is all magic. This is why in Kingdom Come a crazy Shazam makes quick work of Superman. There is no power Superman has that Shazam cant best him at. Shazam has Mercury's speed so by mythology he is faster than light. Superman was raised as a farmer so I dont think he is more brave than ACHILLES or better warrior nor braver. SHAZAM should be way more stronger than Superman because he has the strenght of both HERCULES and the one that carried the world on his shoulders... ATLAS. So HOW IN HELL in any scenario SHAZAM who knows Superman's witnesses doesnt beat Superman every single time? SHAZAM has the power of 4 gods... Superman cannot beat Zeus, Hercules, Atlas and Mercury... then throw the cobat skills of the greatest warrior, Achilles and as wise as king Solomon.
@@thiccosaurus4033 nah he was though, this is supposed to be the same parallel timeline as the other dimension where Billy Batson is still just a teenager. Shazam wanted to turn back into a kid to give Superman perspective but Superman didn’t want that.
MMH is overrated af....he have an arsenal of powers but lack the durability and endurance of superman or Shazam Fire is a far worse weakness than magi or kryptonite because unlikeabe them fire is not rare at all. And before MMH fanboys come here and start saying "fIrE is nOt HiS wEaKnEsS iT is jUsT a mENtal BarRiEr" Well its false its pure physical and confirmed In recent comics l
@@glorilol9546 Then maybe your just a hater Martians fear fire because that how their planet was killed manhunter didn’t come to be and just not like fire it’s a Mental weakness that he actually overcame plus he has taken laser beams from Superman before and was just fine so he’s definitely above durable my guy MM can be above Superman and Shazam if he really wanted to
@@glorilol9546 recent comics are bullshit. In the original stories Martians were so powerful the Guardians of Oa feared them and implanted a phobia of fire(how they reproduce) into their mind. Martian Manhunter is capable of flying through entire stars without a single mark on him. He’s a living lantern ring. Martians are also one of the strongest telepaths in the universe, can become intangible, and have no known limits to their strength. Fire is just a phobia and in reality Martian Manhunter can withstand nuclear bombs as if they were nothing. Martians have no physical weakness.
The wizard Shazam and the gods and other beings that empowered Billy would also be pretty ticked off. That said, Superman countered Zeus (one of those gods) by tricking Highfather Izaya into getting involved, so it's possible he could counter those as well.
@@woodrobin honestly I just want someone to go back in time and like take Wonder Woman literally somewhere else for five years, because one: killing her might make things worse, and two: she was the cause of so many deaths in the injustice universe, from Martian manhunter (The heart and soul of the justice league) to huntress one of Batman’s closest allies.
@@galsameloof5590 You're right! Wonder Woman is the true villain of Injustice series. Superman on the other hand, he's a pawn and she's pulling a strings.
I still dont understand why the writer dint take account that shazam are one of dc powerhouse that could match superman. Seeing him get killed easily like that are kinna f up. Even all this years, this scene pissed me so much.
A litte thing is we never saw the Marvel family or even mage shazam in the Injustice universe but I wonder if they are somewhere in that story or even the future ones
If they ever make Injustice 3 then Karma better comeback to bite Superman and Wonder Woman in the ass for what they’ve done, enough where they finally get out of their self righteous hypocrisy and see how far they have fallen
Having to say the name Shazam verbally out loud in order to gain his powers is so stupid, having to say it out loud is so irresponsible and dangerous, saying it in his mind should be all he has to do
They down play Shazam,s power his alter ego is a child but as Shazam his powers an ability is on par with superman. When he first appeared in comics he was an adult in Shazam form. The last decade they have him a child in a man's body pure garbage!!
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In hindsight Superman literally did one of the worst things as a hero he killed not only an innocent person but a child….
he was an adult in this one if he had his power in this scene it would have been a fight
never thought of that lol
@@thiccosaurus4033 actually he wasn't superman said that he wont hurt children in the second injustice and flash replied two words: *billy baston* confirming that was a child
@@thephoenix4093 not just flash but blue beetle too
@Screaming Soldier it does in this case because he was a child and a man capable of killing another is something common and not extreme as being capable of even thinking about hurting a child let alone make a hole between his eyes!
*Is there any line you won’t cross?*
*I don’t harm children.*
*Didn’t stop you with Shazam.*
I swear that blue beetle have the hardest punchline in the whole injustice series, too bad it isn't in the comics
Shazam used the Lois Button...career ended for him.
1k like
@@nathanalexandre9043 PLAS mentioned "the incident" as LEVERAGE... and was able to walk out the front door.
Only criminals can enter fear me.
Shazam and Green Arrow weren't criminals!
Casualties of war.
How come you're not have regrets, Victor?
Because I know we did the right thing.
2 words: Billy Batson!
Shazam's death shouldn't have faced you!
Killing children is never ok!
He was sacrifice for the greater good!
Poor Billy, he always looked up to Superman, imagine being killed by your own idol.
@@SPDRM He's never been Superman's equal since forever. Sighs..
Imagine if All-Might killed Deku in an alternate universe
@@kitsune2146 in one of the comics he is. Superman said it himself.
@@SPDRM Fr. Shazam should've been able to tank that.
@@yougottrolled5799 Yeah in the old comics like Kingdom Come.He's not the same anymore
"Clark! You had a child yourself! How could you do this?!"
"Yeah, he has a playmate now"
I hate that I laughed at this.
She has a playmate now.
@@zerofudou5689 In the dream it was a she. In the comic it was a he.
Damn that dark
MY DUDE
“Joker nuked Metropolis? Insurgency? You saw me kIll Shazam and Lois?! You sound like banes been hitting you to hard Bruce old pal. Now come on, the Justice Leagues waiting for us at the watch tower! I’ll fly you there!”
The good ending
>watch tower being in space
Is that an actual quote???
@@ChristianGibbons777 no it's a play on the bunches of not so good stuff from something, then they say that's crazy and let's go do this happier stuff
There is a good ending for real in that ending joker try to kill lois but batman save her at the last moment and than find the bombs but superman almost kills joker but batman manage to calm him down and than batman put joker in his car and started talking to him in his way and joker started laughing and saying he would try to do it again to superman and batman gets angry and kills for superman for the first time after that he go to the police and surrenders and when superman visit him he say"you were gone everyone thing you ever belived just for me" and breaks the cells and hugs batman and tell him say the word and you are out of here batman refuse and say he have to take the time he killed a man but superman say that the joker isn't a man but batman was sure about himself and superman left and says thank you
Jokers ghost must love this shit.
Lmao true
Joker got exactly what he wanted.
Like, imagine how funny it must have been for him that Gordon never went nuts over his one bad day but the bulwark of all that is good, superman turns absolute dictator because of one little plan of his. Like, setting up the nuke and killing Lois had less creativity than anything he had done in the Killing Joke and it worked.
And the best part is, Clark is too driven by his fear and hatred to realise this.
All it takes is one bad day
I imagine him eating popcorn while laughing
I just realized that it really was all set in motion on one day.
Although it took longer to make Superman into an actually evil person
They always do Shazam dirty😭 damn man billy was the only one with balls who tried to go against superman’s craziness at the end. His actions did inspire flash to switch sides though. Shazam is a G
I wish Raven was on team Batman they totally wasted her they did her dirty hope the movie gives her more screen time
@@melvingenao550 if he tried that, he'd get one shotted out, she nearly killed wally was horrified he touched the soulself it was so cold like death he both felt (all of raven's hatred, saw trigon) and he said "get away from me raven. Stay away. You would've killed me" he even described her as rotten and even broke captain atom's arms while she was unconscious. It wouldn't matter if he hit her physically, the soulself will come out and rip her apart
Raven is far faster than superman, her soulself caught up with wally west while he was inside the speed force and flew so fast that parallax couldn't catch her and bypassed the heaven army and reached the gates of heaven like a hot knife cutting through butter and in rebirth raven and Jericho Pulled three flashes out of the speed force via soulself Raven's soulself is basically the kryptonite of the speedsters it has extra dimensional energy Raven's speed and teleportation are top notch, they're basically if you put minato and obito under the comic writers Raven's soulself is a very broken ability it's essentially what the Kamui is to Obito Uchiha there's a whole pocket dimension in her soulself and she has an absurd healing factor she could regenerate from a soul she survived her soul being shattered apart then reformed immediately and the soulself ate all of Orion's rage like and swallowed all of his anger like water.
Superman gets foddestomped hard, Raven's soulself is a shapeless void busted with too much extra dimensional energy Raven's soulself wally many times and caught bart as well, do some research before posting wrong info
Raven is a dimensional being living in the 3rd world, she's a mini Trigon in the 3rd dimension.
@@melvingenao550 i was talking about her writing injustice is awful and ruined all characters
@@eivor3975 the soulself is a nexus point actually like it was explained in teen titans #30 (2003) it has a heaven purgatory 9 hells and 11 after lives
@@melvingenao550 all i meant is they did her dirty which is true like how harley is getting more screen time DC loves doing raven dirty for some reason and her she had no character in this storyline also no character development. I wish they put her on justice league dark movie instead of batman lime that would've made more sense cause she would fit and makes more sense.
In Injustice, anytime Superman would make an argument about how he was 'helping people' and think he might have a point, i always think back to this moment. The man killed a child just for mentioning Lois. And it wasn't a swift death either! He silenced his screams and burned a hole through him!
It also makes me wonder, has anyone actually adressed Shazam death in the comics?
nope not ollie or martian manhunter's either tho some theories say jonn isnt dead but i feel like olliver's death was also too bad to move past
It was harley, the whole last arc of the story is in her POV
yeah it was one of the reasons Flash joined Batman
@@ridgefrost Ollie I can see the faintest of reason as he actually attacked Superman, even if the intention was to hurt, and not only that but they were on opposite sides.
Manhunter death I blame more on Wonder Woman
@@dspace4514 was he really? Even someone of superman's calliber doesn't really pose that much of a threat to him much less a normal human and he knows that, but regardless, supes could have just oneshotted him but instead he beat him slowly and painfully to death there's no diverting blame here, supes was pure evil in injustice
Injustice 2*
Blue Beetle: "There any line you wont cross?"
Superman: "I don't hurt children"
Blue Beetle: "Didn't stop you with Shazam"
Me: Oof
Got em
Tell em, Blue Beetle
Used the Lois Button=oof
I mean he was gonna level a set of cities… and unless those cities were evacuated first I’m pretty sure that would have killed a lotta children…
Superman: Only criminals can enter fear me.
Batman: Shazam and Green Arrow weren't criminals!
Superman: Casualties of war.
Me: Yeah! A "war" that you started, Superman.
Flash: How come you're not have regrets, Victor?
Cyborg: Because I know we did the right thing.
Flash: 2 words: Billy Batson!
Me: Yeah you tell that tin can, Flash.
Black Adam: Shazam's death shouldn't have faced you!
Flash: Killing children is never ok!
Black Adam: He was sacrifice for the greater good!
Me: That wasn't sacrifice, Black Adam! Superman killed Billy Batson. How is that a sacrifice?
"You're right Sinestro"
Did you hear him ?
Not "You're right Shazam", but " You're right Sinestro"
He stopped listening to the voice of reason a long time ago, now he listen to the voice of fear.
He treated Billie like a naive child till the very end
I noticed it too. Immediately siding with the bad guy, then he caught himself. “Thanks, Billy” was just a way to keep Shazam on his team a little longer
@@derpycows671 Exactly, I didn’t notice that until now.
No because this is a comic book.
This was the moment that there was no redemption for this Superman, murdered Earth's protector and a child. I still hate how weak they made Shazam.
Fr, how can someone with the powers of six fucking GODS is weaker than an alien who's weakness is a green rock. Ig dc just wanted superman to be superior and more popular
@@fedorarafi2603 Superman is pretty powerful though, someone in another reply section pointed out how the ice held back black adam before and how superman's heat vision was able to destroy doomsday. Plus Superman in his good guy form is always holding back so I don't think we've found out the extent of his capacities.
No superman was just holding back a lot
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The way I see this is that even with the wisdom of Solomon he never thought his idol would do this to him. So in that moment of doubt his defenses were low enough supes took advantage.
His ice was strong enough to hold Black Adam’s entire body for an extended period. So I think it’s fair that in turn a piece could briefly keep his mouth sealed. Supes was able to fuckin lobotomize doomsday so his heat vision definitely had the capacity.
The fact was this was Superman’s final step. The murder of not only an innocent. But a child.
That was his final descent into evil.
Well Solomon was kind of an idiot ain’t it?
@@motationhd8989 in what way was Solomon an idiot could you give me example please?
@@brandonfitzgerald8831 Billy’s wisdom never helped and it even brought him Down a path of darkness along Superman
@@motationhd8989 ok
He has the courage of achilles so that's probably what got him killed
This is why I will never agree with his philosophy.
I’m totally for killing the Joker and a VERY SELECT FEW criminals and monsters, but Billy Batson was neither, just like Huntress, just like Green Arrow.
But... you're fine with him overturning all democracy around the world and turning it into an authoritarian regime predicated on fear and his might alone?
@@papaofthejohns5882 You did read my comment right? I said I don’t and will never agree with his philosophy. His philosophy led to his actions. Therefore I don’t agree with his actions
@@BountyHunter-ep8jk so your more leaning towards red hoods philosophy take out those like joker or those who cant be reasoned with like doomsday
@@outtaideas6974 In a way yes. People that can’t be reasoned with or that either enjoy being evil or actively do everything not I improve or change
@@papaofthejohns5882 Supes had a point at the start, imo. Joker deserved to die. Governments shouldn't bomb people. Oppression and murder of innocents should be prevented, whether it is from some local villain or a high ranking politician. And then he started going against that philosophy when he dumped Atlantis in the middle of the desert. I still disagree with batman's extreme no-kill, hands off oppressive governments stance, and he's pretty warmongery with his insurgency too, but he's leagues better than Superman here.
This one always bugged me. Shazam is ultimately a child (teen in this version).
17 year old teen
A child murdered by his idol made everyone pissed off
Shazam saved Superman's life 3 times and this is how Superman repays him. I hate Superman I hope he and Wonder Woman die in injustice 3
@@emmanuelojurongbe758 I think flash I gonna reverse time in injustice 3
@@thecompetitor4418 I think flash told Batman no because he doesn't want to mess another timeline but I hope so
@@thecompetitor4418 if he was going to do that, he'd have done it after the nuke when wally died. My guess is they'll go with the bad ending, supes will lose what little friends he has, except ww, supes will keep most of the villains either by mind control or fear, Damien will free Bruce, and they'll come up with a mcguffin to stop supes from mind controlling the planet (probably with the anti life equation) leaving him brain dead.
The wisdom of Solomon wasn't working very well when he mentioned Lois to him.
i agree but having wisdom is different from having knowlege and just not being able to know what line this superman would and would not cross well thats a yikes
@@inyalgaico1563 you got it wrong there mate ,wisdom alows you to know when you need to keep your mouth shut
@@ginoportugal9203 you need to remember this is superman up until injustice he was the exact same as our regular superman same feats same everything its understandable that even until the end people doubted the level of his cruel nature
Wisdom is not a sense
Superman: (kills Shazam my favorite superhero)
Me:(grabbing my kryptonite bullets and shotgun)
About to become BloodSport
Anyone notice the innocent hero saved the anti-hero from having his eyes burned out foreshadowed the same demise?
Still can't believe people justify superman actions
cope
@@OmniDan26 saying cope doesn't do anything
@@Williamwillow_ Keep coping , It's funny to watch.
@@OmniDan26 to answer your questiom @Er, this...this is why
I'm going to answer that. People justify Superman's actions because letting evil people continue to kill millions and, as punishment, sending them to jail or an insane asylum only for them to break out is self defeating.
Now I get Batman's reasons on why Superman did was wrong. But to say that killing someone and, as a result, you becoming a monster is reaching a bit. I don't think every superhero that ends up killing a person becomes a monster. Hell there are a lot of superheroes in the comics that do kill people and are NOT monsters.
In superman's case, he shouldn't have killed the joker because he did become a monster for it. But that doesn't apply to everyone.
If you could kill someone knowing that this person's death will prevent many deaths, wouldn't you do it?
Not all villains should be killed. But some villains deserve to die. I believe killing is acceptable depending on who the villain is.
Keep in mind that Superman literally just murdered a child.
he was an adult in this one if he had his power in this scene it would have been a fight
@@thiccosaurus4033 yeah I know but Shazam is still technically a child.
@@thiccosaurus4033 i guess they retconed it since in injustice 2 one of the blue beetle vs superman dialogues is supes saying he doesn't kill kids and beetle responding "what about Shazam?"
@@michealfoster4411 wow if thats the case than that is just ridiculous they dont want to let anyone besides batman hold a candle to supes and thats just because hes the companies money maker
Well its been 5 years and Billy was 12 when he became Shazam so he might have been 17 or 18 which means he's still a kid but also a legal adult.
Shazam has the awareness of Gods, he should've been able to sense Superman's intention. No way he would just stand there and let his eye beams sear through his head.
He wasn't in Shazam form. He was just Billy..
@@pranitkarne872 Even so, common sense dictates maybe bringing up Lois in front of a homicidal maniac isn't the best idea.
@@pranitkarne872 and maybe, even he knew his intentions, he couldn't believe in his awareness telling Superman was going to kill him
@@pranitkarne872 actually he was Shazam...
He can only be Shazam or Billy.
Him screaming Shazam would of turn him into a kid
@@memesarekeem The man's nerfed. No common sense not even the Wisdom of Solomon can help him. He was Superman's equal hell even stronger than Superman in the old comic books but alas.
Flash is secretly TEAM Batman now
not secretly, he left immediately after that, ran into sinestro kicked his ass and continued
@@willjohnboy Hal didn’t want to be next. Superman has already killed like 10 heroes
Not now my dude he’s been for years
shazam would’ve been team batman
@@willjohnboy Right? even Super trying to kill him didn't make he change sides '-'
Wonder woman helped in the process of making the superman he is now
Had Superman activated his Red Pill awareness, he would have seen through WW's shenanigans.
Oh no she didn't help, she straight up made him go insane
She takes at least 90% credit for the shit he has done
@@ryuken338 I never would have imagined there would be a comment like this lol 😂
@@mrflame2497 😁
@@ryuken338 😂
I always thought this was stupid, there is no way superman could just blast through Shazam like that, and there was no way Shazam wasn’t going to fight back
Shazam was in his human form here
@@bladeslad8434 isn’t billy a kid tho? Did they age him up?
@@demetriuswilliams4721 yeah, they did
@@demetriuswilliams4721 I've just checked now and he was 17 at the time of his death
@@bladeslad8434 actually he wasn’t, the injustice comics are based off the game, and in the game you can play as Shazam, Shazam can clearly be seen as a child that transforms into his adult form, also he’s referred to as a kid in both the games and the comics
Not gonna lie, when Injustice (the game) was first released... its story roped me in. Especially the fact that, for the first time ever, I was actually afraid of a fictional character who, up to that point, in one way or another was always a good guy, THE good guy. It made me understand the motivations of Amanda Waller and Cadmus in the Justice League tv series. An evil Justice League, an evil Superman... next to unstoppable.
The only thing I found to be highly frustrating about the story was, after finishing the story mode in the game, going through most of the comics. Specifically, the many, many near-deaths and near-defeats they wrote up for Superman, only to have them being taken apart again, sometimes in the most ridiculous fashion - because they couldn't contradict (most of) the game and its outcome.
People still saying Shazam still on human form.
Just admit that they did our boy dirty in this comic.
He was human form hence he was trying to say Shazam
@@thekingant2726 He was Shazam not Billy, he was trying to say Shazam to hit Supes with the lightning Billy was a teenager at this point and doesn't walk around in a Shazam costume
@@JTK-th5wx his costume is different from the one in his Shazam form, this is billy in his human form
@@JTK-th5wx that would have been stupid, he was in danger the moment that lightning touches him, he loses his power he wouldn't have done that unless he had to and why would he need lightning from the sky to strike supes, he can cast lightning from his hands
@@JTK-th5wx Wrong I’m afraid
The comic book designs and the game designs aren’t the same, granted a lot of things are different in the comic than the game.
But the most hilarious change in this scene where Clark kills Shazam, is that they gave Black Adam hair where in the game he’s bald.
…Still this is the most fucked up moment in Injustice, how can anyone stay with Superman after what he did to Billy.
It has to be because of fear, tho I’m not sure with Wonder Woman since she is a lot cold hearted in Injustice.
Yellow lantern, Hawkgirl is probably because of fear.
Sinestro, Black Adam & WW agree with this superman.
Raven is just a double-opp plant. Her purpose working with the regime is inevtiably to betray them to trigon when he returns.
Cyborg is because of a mix of Loyalty, fear & agreement.
Then of course Grundy is because of brainwash.
Wonder Woman actually stays with him because of love
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 That love wouldn't mean much if she didn't agree with Superman's authoritarian regime - She was literally the one always pushing and prodding him further into his descent into ruling the world, through fear and force.
@@papaofthejohns5882 Yeah she agrees with him because she started it
@@papaofthejohns5882 What I'm saying is that Supes turned into such a maniac that in the end the only reason she stayed was because of love
It makes me so sad because i'm sure Shazam thought about the past before dying, maybe he was in shock because of Superman(and because he was still a young kid), the one who thanked him now was grabbing his neck, about to kill him. Think about it, there are many ways he could have escaped the only thing he managed to do while thinking this was spelling Shazam. This was hard to assimilate the first time i watched this scene in the videogame.
Canon Shazam would not taken down so easily.
Jeez. That would be like a kid being awarded by their parents only to be spanked on the same day for disagreeing with them.
I get that superman is strong and everything but this should have been a little more of a fight
He froze Shazam's throat all the way to the lungs, there was nothing he could do
I don't think Billy actually thought Superman would kill him. Intimidate him, knock him about a little - but _kill_ him?
The whole point was that it wasn’t a fight. He killed him with just the drop of a hat.
If this was regular Supes before his "fall from grace" yes but this is Supes who believes he is right and has no problem with killing now, Evil Supes vs Shazam is not going to be a contest because Shazam isn't going to kill and Supes is, Supes made his decision as soon as Shazam tried to make his point about it being wrong at that point Supes decided to eliminate a potential huge ally for Batman's team
@@JTK-th5wx shazam is actually on par with superman sometimes even stronger than him in the comics so it would be a little harder then that
Every time I see anything about 'Injustice' I think:
The Joker won.
It's why I laugh when people say "Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker?"
Apart from The Batman Who Laughs becoming a thing, the Joker literally wins once you snap and kill him.
@@DamienDarksideBlog He also wins when the DC Universe's justice system (unintentionally or not) refuses to send him to the chair no matter what he's done.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Yes and no.
Yes, he wins, because he gets to go and keep going.
No, because the point he's trying to prove has yet to be proven. Without breaking down the entire character, Joker's philosophy is that the concepts of "order", "laws", and "justice" are basically just bad jokes. That humans are nothing more than violent, insane beasts with delusions of self-importance, erecting feeble barriers to hide us from ourselves. He seeks to tear down those constructs and prove them to be mere illusions. If he, the ultimate embodiment of chaos is killed, he managed to get them to break the rules, proving him and his worldview correct. He ESPECIALLY wants the Batman, the ultimate paragon of order and self-control, to be the one to kill him. In Injustice, he settled for another one of the great pillars of moral order breaking to prove his point. And THAT'S why Joker won in the Injustice universe.
A good counter question I thought of while I was writing this is "But if the justice system sentences him to death, wouldn't that mean he loses? After all, the system of order and laws are what killed him."
Perhaps. That's another question, but ultimately irrelevant. The fact that he HASN'T been put to death by now must mean that Gotham doesn't have a death penalty. And I could be wrong here, but I feel that if Gotham reformed it's laws to allow for the Death Penalty SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of people like Joker that it would still, ultimately, prove his point. Because the justice system of Gotham would have had to break it's previously established code in order to deal with him.
Also in hindsight it's dumb that I said "without breaking down the entire character" and then proceeded to break down the entire character
I remember this Shazam death scene from the game and I was *MAD*
RIP Captain Sparkle Fingers 😢❤️💛
Ragman : He's innocent!
*Innocent Shazam proceeds to blow him apart with Lightning for having a different opinion about Superman
That part just felt weird
I concur. He had Ragman under control, no need to kill him. ='[.]'=
Because superman was his idol Supes could do bo wrong, especially since that would make Shazam wrong for following him.
Innocence isn't the absence of wrongdoing, it is the ignorance of right and wrong.
You do know Shazam didn’t kill him, right? The lightning bolt just knocked Ragman out, forcing him to release Superman. Then the Spectre arrived and killed Ragman. Shazam tried to stop him, but to no avail.
DC comics has taken the golden ages best superhero and turned him into a mentally discombobulated one trick pony. Any fights he gets in he loses, the Rock Of Eternity should be off limits to everybody just like the batcave, fortress of solitude and wonder woman's island. The best thing DC comics should do to Captain Marvel is just shelve him until a competent reworking of his history can be done.
What, dude he was awesome in injustice
@@egekazkayas8968 He's not even second banana status. A golden age superhero taking orders from the teen titans, has his rogues gallery been improved, how often are his fellow Fawcett superheroes used. When they made Billy lord marvel that would have been the direction to have gone in but they always go with the mental issues and I'm sick and tired of it.
The whole DC universe is bad now because of all the retconning
Not gonna happen. DC Comics is too busy making superheroes gay and woke.
Dude this crap is non canon so no worries 8).
There should have been a fight that leveled the building in the process. Even without holding back, Killing Captain Marvel should've been so difficult for Superman to where it took the help of Wonder Woman and others to finally get it done...It's interesting that Hawkman wielding a kryptonite mace was able to do more harm to Superman than Shazam was allowed to-
Shazam doesn't really have pwers outside of the flight and lightning. Super strength, too. Problem is, once his mouth was frozen, SUpes is easily faster and stronger. There was only one way the "fight" could go
@@corjonbett wrong. In the injustice comics Hercules was beating Supes ass, and Supe is scared shitless of Zues. MIND YOU SHAZAM HAS BOTH THESE GUYS POWERS
@@grumpyghost1809 REally? He's never seen using them, hardly, in most media. he's just a flying, muscular guy.
He wasn't powered up here. Which is why he was trying to say Shazam.
He didnt kill Captain marvel here he killed billy i dont know why billy looked so old but he was already a teenager around year 5 so that's prolly why but you can see superman freeze his mouth when he tries to say shazam so that's how we know its billy.
A friendly reminder that there's another version of superman who also lost lois lane but still held on to justice and order. And that superman is older and even stronger than this superman
Isnt just lois lane tho he didnt turn evil just because louis died is the circumstances influence of those around him and years of pain all together on the comics you can see how he didnt actually turn evil at the spot the moment lois died
if only kingdom come superman would've witnessed this .. all of those would be in pieces already lol
cringe
All KC Supes would need to do is tear Injustice Supes apart, then the rest would quit on the spot.
@@SolarWraith i know right :D
Shazam was never Superman’s equal. When Superman stops holding back, even the earth’s mightiest mortal is a child’s play. Oh wait shazam is a child so yea.
Shazam also held back every-time they fought ….go cry about it
Everybody: Shazam is a child
Me: Sooooo your telling me Shazam couldn't break out of that
I’m not familiar with this comic, but some comments are saying this is his “human form” so take that as you will.
From what I understood it was his human form since he grew up
These videos regularly highlight fights I've somehow missed and remind me go and buy the issues they're from, you're doing good work and I hope the copyright strikes stay away 👌
Ur girlfriend: " it is ok. My father is such a nice guy"
Her father: 5:37
Lol
cringe
I wouldn't think he and Ollie were casualties of war. They were just sacrifices Superman had to, CHOSE to, make in order to "protect the world" and "help the people". The question is, are those sacrifices truly worth it? I think we all know the answer here.
nyet
What doesn't make any real sense is how Billy is still dead, his soul is literally linked to the Rock of Eternity, in reality his soul would end up there and eventually be reconstituted by the magical energies there.
Connections to insanely powerful Godlike Beings like Zeus or Atlas don't come lightly, hell he'd likely end up in Olympus and be reconstituted by Zeus himself if not free himself from Hades.
He should actually heal from this using magic
i wonder if shazam want to struck supes with lightning or turn into a boy so supes wont kill him😅
He wasnt shazam in this scene he was in his human form
@@bladeslad8434 He was not in his human form, Billy doesn't wear a Shazam costume...he was trying to bring the lightning
@@JTK-th5wx he was in his human form, why would billy yell shazam while in danger knowing well if the lightning touches him he'll revert back to human, he was a teen wearing his costume in injustice
@@JTK-th5wx t’es he was at billy form that why he try to yell Shazam
@@ridgefrost he sometimes uses the lightning bolt offensively against creatures vulnerable to magic. As a speedster (he has Mercury's speed) he could generate lightning the way that the Flash does but that kind would likely not be magical.
Joker must be watching this shit in hell like it's prime TV
They always neglect the wisdom of Solomon.
So shazam can punch black holes, but can't break ice of his lips?
Ridiculous
Bro, it's injustice universe,injustice characters is weaker than normal characters, i'm superman fan but this comic is really a trash!
He was in human form
Sounds like Golden Age super man stuff so.................yeah not the same.
@@yiohan9574 he was clearly Shazam.
@@melvingenao550 Shazam punches causes black holes....
Imagine getting punch into oblivion?
This is the scene from the game that made me believe Injustice!Superman is evil. Yes, tragic past, but he is so warped by his own pain that he sees a boy trying to do the right thing as an enemy to be disposed of. A child maliciously murdered because he was 'upset'.
he threatened to murder an entire city full of children... because Arthur refused to "surrender" to him...
he openly stated that Shazam had been *AGAINST* making that threat in the first place...
his plan here was to *STRAIGHT UP MURDER >>>TWO CITIES
tldr
yeah, he murdered a child in cold blood as a form of psychological warfare...
and that is *NEVER* okay--- NOT...EVER...
He was channeling his inner Anakin.
And the thing that annoyed me the most was that in injustice 2 Wonder woman and black Adam lie to Kara that superman has never done anything wrong
Superman is a bigger lunatic than Obito Uchiha
Who?
Harley tried to warn him.
I hope in the movies it actually ends in a fight not just Shazam letting Superman kill him
I actually like this scene. Shazam could put up a fight if he was ready for one, but he wasn’t here. He was caught off guard by his hero, he never expected Superman to kill him.
@@sptflcrw8583 Would have died anyways since Supes is less repressed.
I still don’t understand how Superman is constantly & consistently beating Shazam who has the power of 6 gods
Zeus & Hercules have beaten Superman already but Shazam can’t
That baffles me totally
Because when Superman stops caring, things go south mostly.....keep in mind an older Superman a direct punch from Hercules and didn't even get shifted at all. Also if he wanted he could just heat vision Zues because simple counter to a coward that intangs their body to avoid a soft pat from Superman.
Superman kill Hercules with a punch 😏👊
@@isarrasool369 depending on who’s writing Superman beats EVERYONE
@@sirdvl also Superman is capable of beating everyone 🤷🏻♂️
@@isarrasool369 here, hold my space rock---
woops
My Guy was given:
The Wisdom Of Solomon,
The Strength Of Hercules,
The Stamina Of Atlas,
The Power Of Zeus,
The Courage Of Achilles,
And Most Importantly…
*THE SPEED OF MERCURY*
( AKA HERMES, Literally The God Of Messengers/Speed )
And Billy Batson ( SHAZAM )
Couldn’t even react to Superman.
Why would he ever even leave Shazam mode
He didn't bro, he was in Shaz mode 🥺
@@FernandoComicsOfficial Damn they did him dirty then
Damn. I figured Superman used his heat vision through Shazam’s forehead in the game. But seeing it happen in the comics right in the eyes? Brutal.
As tragic and horrific as this was, I was questioning how Superman's heat vision managed to burn through being with magical invulnerability who's tanked it in the past.
Plot.
Plot
Just like they forgot shazam is just as strong as supes matter of fact stronger since he beatdown Hercules who trashed both supes and wonder woman
And he can conjure lighting in his hands
@@legendarygrimlock4471+
Yeah, Superman got a LOT of concessions and PIS/Plot Armour in this series. There's a litany of characters who could have taken him out just on earth alone so they had to keep finding ways to get around and/or take out these characters first. Shazam I think posed so much of a problem (to the point theynuad to resort to PIS like this) because he was on side with Superman right from the start and, because of that, got a lot of screen time. This in turn showed us just how incredibly powerful Shazam really was and as you mentioned, in a couple of cases, actually appeared to be superior to Clark. So by the time it came around to having him taken out of the picture, they didn't really know what to do and had kind of written themselves into a corner. It was inevitable too because Billy, being who he is, was always too moral and too strong in his convictions (despite being more easily manipulated due to being a child) to stay loyal to Superman past a certain point so he was gonna have to go eventually. And they couldn't have him joining the rebels because 1v1 he could take out just about any other member of team Superman. With a powerhouse like that who could actually oppose Clark and stand up to him, other members of Team Supes who were discontented with his "rule" (like Aquaman who was only there due to Superman strongarming him with the threat of dumping Atlantis in the desert and not being able to stop it himself) would eventually start to side with the Insurrection and Clark would end up losing too many allies to feasibly remain dominant.
Remember Billy's suit is White when transformed and about 7 years have passed since Billy was 10. He is 17 and wearing a costume. He wanted to transform when that A-hole lasered his head.
@@thedelordhimselfgokublack+
Y'know have thought about it this way. I mean, his costume matches what he usually wears when he's powered up in the Injustice Universe and in the game so (at least this late into the story) and he looks pretty built at the time so I figured he was just powered up already but if not, then that would explain a lot.
My friend, if you didn’t cross the line before, you certainly did now.
I hate how Shazam helped him through so much and supes just turns around and kills him disregarding their long time friendship
But let's also think of this from a story point If Shazam was written properly in this verse he and flash would be on the insurgency and the fight would've been over alot quicker then it should be
There was a time where Captain Marvel (Shazam) was more powerful and more popular than Superman… I think this was the most shocking and terrible thing about Injustice. Especially to go out that way.
This was so stupid. Shazaam being killed by superman. What a joke.
Superman is Waaay Stronger and more powerful than Shazam
@@TheSuperboy_Prime But Shazam is not just some normal flying superhero, he got the powers of gods, he can do more than flying, a punching, or even using lightning, he has more power than Superman
@@DydyFestif And Superman Killed Gods and He Blocked Shazam's and Black adam's Magical Lighting with his bare hands
@@TheSuperboy_Prime But Shazam has spirit powers too, and Superman can't counter that
@@TheSuperboy_Prime ONLY when the writing and plot demands it. Otherwise, Shazaam has everything needed to kill superman. He is said to be even faster than Superman, not flash fast but close. What a joke of a fanboy atleast reconie that superman is only as strong as the plot demands it
Well, that's one way to help clear a person's mind. lol
See, this is the moment i truly started to hate injustice because wjr was battle of ideologies became a "batman good superman bad" story
I refuse to believe that a superman raised by the Kent Would kill a kid In cold blood corrupted or not
That scene is alo not logical at all. There is no way In hell superman woud kill Shazam so easily
It Could have been fer better if Shazam just decided to change sides. À bit like spider-man In the civil war comic
He's corrupted, idk how it's hard to believe it when he's corrupted
It really is something that should have given Superman pause at the VERY least.
It wasn't like Billy was constantly agitating and questioning, being the Starscream who finally went too far in provoking Superman. This is the boy who always believed in Superman, always backed him up, always believed in him even when Superman's oldest friends turned on him.
Even if Superman DID just off him in a moment of rage... which he really SHOULDN'T have because the scene just wasn't that charged... there should have been a moment, a pause, a skip where Superman was faced with what he had done, what he had become, and given a turning point, a chance to turn back, and made the decision to keep going.
The biggest flaw in Injustice is that Superman never seems to really struggle with killing. He just dives into it with both feet before the Joker's body is even cold and never really looks back. I feel like there should have been more of an internal struggle for him to make it more believable that this IS the Clark Kent we know, just continually taking the turn down the darker path at every crossroads. Granted, the majority of my knowledge of it is from the game, where he's pretty two-dimensional even in the sequel.
@@chikenfartz we already knew he was corrupted even before that scene. So what was the importance having him killing Shazam for shock value
But have you read the year one to five comics?
But you are right it isn't like superman, but joker had pushed him to the limit... Basically the joker wins by having superman kill him... Mostly because joker wants to show that hero's that hold the law can be Worser than the criminal's...
This is how scary the joker can be.. Its why he try's to have Batman kill him.. Or the joker wins and the world enters a un-escapeable anarchy state...
But yeah Joker pushed him by drugging him and making him kill his wife and unborn child, mistaking Lois for doomsday...
Yeah this is a story of Superman killing Shazam years into him becoming a dictator, mind you prior to this he had a yellow lantern ring, read the rest of the story then come back
Superman becomes a psychopathic manipulator. You can tell how he's changed to a scared little child and how much he's dwindled
I love what if stories but hate seeing power houses written off so quick even if superman is stronger than shazam (which he shouldn't be hes afraid of zues in this story and shazam is literally zues plus more). He isn't faster or even smarter shazam literally has the wisdom of KING SOLOMON as just a super power. And Martian Manhunter has feats that put pre crisis feats that put him well above superman like when three superman couldn't slow him down superboy prime Martian Manhunter laid him out in one punch. I like superman being strong and a power house but only on Earth like how Reed Richards isn't the smartest when he leaves earth but isn't useless
The reason he killed shazam so easily is because Billy wasn't transformed
@@beyond_hazz9778 he was, shazam is only a teenager in this universe
I mean. Freezing your breath kinda fucks your brain up. Solomon is Smart as Hell but he can't do much while he doesn't breath.
@@Mark-tq7bf frost breath isn't a superman exclusive power so shazam and Manhunter could do it too.
@@williamdavis5711 What I mean is he isn't breathing. Your brain gets fucked up if you don't get access to Oxygen. Although I don't know maybe he could have better instincts to fucking call a Lighting or another power to help him without the need of thinking xd
Superman: Only criminals should fear me
Batman: Shazam and Green Arrow were criminals?
Superman: casualties of War
Me: the ends do not justify the action of a mad dictator.
Nobody is going to point out how SHAZAM should have been able to break superman's hold?
He wasn’t ready. Besides, Supes is far stronger
@@sptflcrw8583 superman, shazam, and black adam have always been pretty even in terms of physical strength with superman saying many times that shazam was one of the few physical equals to himself. Only reason shazam died is because of bullshit.
@@sptflcrw8583 yeah he's strong but he wouldn't take Shazam down that easily
@@emmanuelojurongbe758 ur probably right. IF Shazam was ready. He was completely jumped.
people who try to justify this superman are the same people wh try to justify eren jeager
Umm... Invulnerability of Achilles? I keep flashing back on the Superman movie where Supes takes a bullet to the eyeball and it flattens rather than penetrate. Invulnerable means you don't get to burn out his eyeballs no matter how kewl you think it would be.
You want to hurt Shazam? How would you hurt Achilles?
By stabbing him in the heel.
You know, I think you might just have something there.
It's not the invulnerability. It the courage of achilles.
Now, take a look at the actual Greek mythology. Achilles was a fearless mortal general who led his troops from the front lines. He could afford to be so bold, unlike other mortals, because *nothing could hurt him.*
Achilles was granted this immunity to harm when, as an infant, his mother took him to the banks of the river Styx which separated the land of the living from the land of the dead, and dipped him in its waters from head to toe. Only his heels escaped this babtism, because that's where she held onto him. From that day on, no blade could cut him, no arrow or spear could pierce him, no fire could burn, etc, etc. Except on his heels.
When we say that kryptonite is Superman's achilles' heel, this is where that comes from.
@@TheDetailsMatter only in ancient greek tales. Not the mycenean greek tales. The older tales have him merely brave and bold not invulnerable.
Blue beetle: got any line you won't cross
Superman: I don't hurt children
Blue beetle: didn't stop you with Shazam
Superman: Only criminals can enter fear me.
Batman: Shazam and Green Arrow weren't criminals!
Superman: Casualties of war!
Flash: How come you're not have regrets, Victor?
Cyborg: Because I know we did the right thing.
Flash: 2 words: Billy Batson!
Black Adam: Shazam's death shouldn't have faced you!
Flash: Killing children is never ok!
Black Adam: He was sacrifice for the greater good!
Shazam died easily this is garbage. Shazam can literally survive that tf
Superman should have had a red ring, not yellow.
So utterly tired of the "Superman broke and turned evil" bit. I don't mind it when Superman-analogues like the guy from Invincible or Waid's Irredeemable turn evil, but having Clark do so himself is absurd. Much as I can't stand Waid as a person, he got it right with Kingdom Come, and had Superman come as close as is possible with his character - but he was reminded of who he is, and relented.
This nonsense of "I'm going to just start slaughtering civilians to prove a point" is absolutely not Superman. Not by a mile.
What did mark waid do, I love kingdom come and Superman birthright.
@@The_dude12 - Skewered Richard Meyer’s deal to have a comic published by Antarctic, rather than self-publishing it. Contacted the publisher himself to pressure them.
he's just kal-el aka Clark Kent now
I think Injustice Superman was already fucked in the head way before Lois died.
Nice to see DC hasn't stopped ROFL stomping a great character who was once a rival of Superman's in a prior company. DC's Shazam's runs remind me of the WWE take over of WCW they talk about in the 90's. Such a great character, and potential game changer, but always treated like a ho Vegeta. Shame.
Poor guy just wanted to convince Superman into not making things worse. What is more wrong. A kid calling ur wife’s name or u killing that kid for that?
RIP
The crazy thing is that I don’t even think Shazam was going to say the word Shazam to intentionally hurt Superman. I think he was trying to show Superman what he was doing it to show Superman who he was killing: a child. Superman stopped him from saying the word to convince himself and the world he didn’t kill a kid.
Ok I don't why some people side with Superman and still think he is right especially after they saw him kill not just an innocent but a freaking kid that's a low blow man if it was me I would have gone to Batman's side right away after that, plus it hurts even more when you remember that Billy idolized Superman and in the end is killed by him man this hurts me just typing this
Neither of them are right. That's the thing.
@@belias360 are you kidding me I would rather join Batman's side then Superman any day
I still call him Captain Marvel. Geoff Johns only changed his hero name because “that’s what people thought he was called”. You can’t call yourself the word that transforms you when you speak it. Plus that’s the wizard’s name anyway.
Yeah, but Shazam is a much more unique name than Captain Marvel. Not to mention that Marvel also has a character with the same name.
@MrShisuto - Shazam’s Captain Marvel first appeared in 1940. Marvel’s Captain Marvel first appeared in 1967. Plus, think about it:
1) When Billy Batson says the word “Shazam” at any point in time he transforms to and back. Making such a word your hero name is too risky if you tell people who you are.
2) The wizard is also named Shazam so there can’t be two characters with the same exact hero based name that’ll make things confusing.
3) Teth-Adam also uses the magic word Shazam to transform into Black Adam and you don’t see him calling himself Shazam.
@@STH151NicoleFan true. It’s just a shame that they couldn’t come up with some other name besides Captain Marvel. Iconic, sure. But it just doesn’t have the same impact as Shazam.
@MrShisuto - Billy almost called himself Captain Marvel in “Shazam!” #1 but was cut off. If they did give him a different name they should at least let him keep “Captain” in it.
This was the worst death, and one that made zero sense.
Martian Manhunter's death is up there though
martian manhunter made sense in the context of injustice where the setting was just "fire is MMH weakness", but it was repeated multiple times that shazam was stronger than supes, say when he bullied hercules, who managed to more or less 3v1 hal, WW and supes
@@typeouetco1626 exactly. Literally the H part of SHAZAM means the strength of Hercules, the other abilities just pile onto that. I think the only case it would make sense for Superman to defeat Shazam is if Superman is sun dipped or has been exposed to the sun for long periods of time(Kingdom Come Superman since Hercules couldn’t even move him an inch)
@@typeouetco1626 the context of injustice itself is nonsense anyway with none of the scaling really working. It has to be specifically fire that hurts MMH not just the intense head from fire, he’s taking beams from superman before, and I doubt wonder womans body would catch flame. Also it seems out of character how quick he was to try and kill WW.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 that too, but I was mostly thinking about how directly burning him would just make him go full psycho.
What would have made more sense was if Shazam pushed Superman away, they fight, and it seems like Shazam is winning to WW jumps in, and they both hang up on Shazam, killing him. I know it’s not a perfect way for him to die, but I think it’s better than letting Superman blow holes into his eyes
Shazam saved Superman during this whole ass series and superman kills him for saying Lois name
Supes kills Immortal beings now lol
Who was the red box narrator?
Harley Quinn.
SHAZAM SHOULD BEAT SUPERMAN every single time in a few minutes.
My problem with this is to pretend that saying Shazam is that slow. Also since Captain Marvel was most popular than Superman until DC got the character I always find them to do Shazam dirty. By virtue of the Gods, SHAZAM is way smarter than Superman even if Billy is a child. You can blame that Billy's inmaturity takes over Solomon's intellect just how Billy's human strenght doesnt take over Hercules when he is Shazam.
Superman is weak to magic... Shazam is all magic. Superman's heat vision is not faster than ZEUS' lightning which by the way is all magic. This is why in Kingdom Come a crazy Shazam makes quick work of Superman. There is no power Superman has that Shazam cant best him at. Shazam has Mercury's speed so by mythology he is faster than light. Superman was raised as a farmer so I dont think he is more brave than ACHILLES or better warrior nor braver. SHAZAM should be way more stronger than Superman because he has the strenght of both HERCULES and the one that carried the world on his shoulders... ATLAS.
So HOW IN HELL in any scenario SHAZAM who knows Superman's witnesses doesnt beat Superman every single time? SHAZAM has the power of 4 gods... Superman cannot beat Zeus, Hercules, Atlas and Mercury... then throw the cobat skills of the greatest warrior, Achilles and as wise as king Solomon.
At least we get the satisfaction that he gets crushed by an animated volcano hand in that awful series before Rebirth
imagine Superman trying this to Odin...........
Odin would rip his eyes out,shove them in his mouth then rags him all over the place.
@@Raven-li1bm facts even Wonder Woman too
@@Raven-li1bm superman violates lmfao
@@bowman9778 superman litteraly fucks wonder woman
@@smal750 Injustice Superman gets Weinsteined by Odin lol
This man just killed a child!
Bruh Shazam, from any universe, should be near indestructible but the writers love to tear him apart just like Martian Manhunter.
he wasnt powered up in this scene that was why superman stopped him from yelling shazam
@@thiccosaurus4033 nah he was though, this is supposed to be the same parallel timeline as the other dimension where Billy Batson is still just a teenager. Shazam wanted to turn back into a kid to give Superman perspective but Superman didn’t want that.
MMH is overrated af....he have an arsenal of powers but lack the durability and endurance of superman or Shazam
Fire is a far worse weakness than magi or kryptonite because unlikeabe them fire is not rare at all.
And before MMH fanboys come here and start saying "fIrE is nOt HiS wEaKnEsS iT is jUsT a mENtal BarRiEr" Well its false its pure physical and confirmed In recent comics l
@@glorilol9546 Then maybe your just a hater Martians fear fire because that how their planet was killed manhunter didn’t come to be and just not like fire it’s a Mental weakness that he actually overcame plus he has taken laser beams from Superman before and was just fine so he’s definitely above durable my guy MM can be above Superman and Shazam if he really wanted to
@@glorilol9546 recent comics are bullshit. In the original stories Martians were so powerful the Guardians of Oa feared them and implanted a phobia of fire(how they reproduce) into their mind. Martian Manhunter is capable of flying through entire stars without a single mark on him. He’s a living lantern ring. Martians are also one of the strongest telepaths in the universe, can become intangible, and have no known limits to their strength. Fire is just a phobia and in reality Martian Manhunter can withstand nuclear bombs as if they were nothing. Martians have no physical weakness.
5:33 This scene gets even scarier if we remember that Billy is just a 10-year-old boy with the powers of the wizard Shazam
I hope Mary Marvel is in injustice and learns of Billy’s death.
The wizard Shazam and the gods and other beings that empowered Billy would also be pretty ticked off. That said, Superman countered Zeus (one of those gods) by tricking Highfather Izaya into getting involved, so it's possible he could counter those as well.
@@woodrobin honestly I just want someone to go back in time and like take Wonder Woman literally somewhere else for five years, because one: killing her might make things worse, and two: she was the cause of so many deaths in the injustice universe, from Martian manhunter (The heart and soul of the justice league) to huntress one of Batman’s closest allies.
@@galsameloof5590 You're right! Wonder Woman is the true villain of Injustice series. Superman on the other hand, he's a pawn and she's pulling a strings.
I still dont understand why the writer dint take account that shazam are one of dc powerhouse that could match superman. Seeing him get killed easily like that are kinna f up. Even all this years, this scene pissed me so much.
Every time I think about Shazam dying , I think about all those innocent people this man killed
A litte thing is we never saw the Marvel family or even mage shazam in the Injustice universe but I wonder if they are somewhere in that story or even the future ones
If they ever make Injustice 3 then Karma better comeback to bite Superman and Wonder Woman in the ass for what they’ve done, enough where they finally get out of their self righteous hypocrisy and see how far they have fallen
I’m not sure i have ever hated a comic character like Injustice Superman before.
Well I do hate Superman and Wonder Woman
Superman should pay for this
He did thanks to good Superman
Having to say the name Shazam verbally out loud in order to gain his powers is so stupid, having to say it out loud is so irresponsible and dangerous, saying it in his mind should be all he has to do
This is the scene that made me lose all my sympathy for Injustice Superman.
They down play Shazam,s power his alter ego is a child but as Shazam his powers an ability is on par with superman. When he first appeared in comics he was an adult in Shazam form. The last decade they have him a child in a man's body pure garbage!!