2022 MG4 Review - The EV Nissan Wish They Made
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2022
- Today James is driving the much anticipated and well priced, MG4 LR Trophy. This a 5 door, 240 mile EV with a great spec, great tech and a front end that really will turn a few heads. He seemed impressed.
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I showed this video to my wife a week ago and after a test drive she has ordered the MG4 Trophy. 👍 Excellent content, thanks.
I got 142kW charging from 25-50% at Ionity in my SE LR and averaged 96kW from 22-80%! Better than quoted figures and a game changer on my long trips (where faster chargers are available).
Hi. And time from 22 to 80%?
@@emil10139 23 mins on Ionity
Thanks for the review James. Seem to be a few software improvements they could make, but that always seems to be the way with new EVs. Hopefully they make them.
Thank you James for another very useful review. Very fair and balanced view for a game changing EV! Best regards, Atsham
Great review James , thank you
Great review (as always). Thanks. And an even bigger Thank You for removing the dreadful plastic wheel trims. I've watched loads of reviews of this car and yours is one of only two that appear to have realised the trims aren't alloys. Testament to the quality of your reviews. Thanks again!
Could you link the other, please, I'm keen to see more of it without the wheel covers
Hi James - I'm a week into ownership, your review is spot on, I have the base model SE (LFP 51kw), so no bongs, I've just moved from a 14yr old (170k mile, VW Tiguan 170 sport) to this - apart from a few bits of dodgy plastic (and the seats for me - at present dont have enough support) - i still cannot understand (get over), that this car is cheaper than what it cost 14 years ago for a VW Tiguan 170 sport! - I'm lucky that I have free charging (at work - as long as I get in early enough!), and have 4.5p evening (which I've never used todate) - so should save around £250 / month on fuel !!
Great review mate and what’s nice is because your a mechanic you no the issues you get with a car and I am sure you end up fixing them as you service them 👏👏😎
BONG BONG .... great as always pal 👍
I bought my MG5 based on your reviews and I love it. Great review and if I didn't have the MG5, I might consider this.... Bong! 😄
I had a sit in one last week after reading a review that commented on the 'cheap feeling' interior and, coming from a Leaf, I was very impressed with the comfort and build quality. I can't wait to have a test drive, apart from the bonging!
Once I recovered from my epileptic fit... :) this review was great, subbed :)
The Trophy is not starting from £28,495 ... that's the SE Long Range model. (Same battery system as the Trophy but without the 360 camera, wireless charging, electric heated seats etc.)
The bong is the Drowsiness Awareness system - you can't permanently turn it off, but you CAN permanently turn off the sound. 🙂
PS - I've ordered the SE Standard Range in Camden Grey ... £26.5k which should arrive with me by the end of the month 🙂
You'll be pleased to learn that your SE won't have the drowsiness bongs either. The sensor is missing from the steering column (it's that lump with the flashing red LED in the video at 9m27s).
So have I today. Replacing my 2 year old MG5 which has been fantastic. Sorry to see it go. It deserves a good home!
Happy with it? I'm thinking of getting one.
great review James thank you ........ Bong!
We've ordered a MG SE Long Range in blue to complement our Mk1 MG ZS EV after a great test drive from Bulldog MG in Tywford. They just gave us the key and we went out for an hour to test the car on everything from in-town to 70mph on the motorway.
Apparently, that spoiler on the Trophy model knocks the range down by 10 miles over the SE which is £3k cheaper. The only thing we would miss is that the SE just has rear sensors rather than a camera like our ZS.
You got me to buy an MG5 which I still live to bits, now you’ve got me thinking about one of these. You are costing me the earth 😅😅😅😅
Looks like a great car James great review thank you
Excellent review James, I'm due to order my next motability car this month and feel I'm ready to move into the world of EV's now after driving a hybrid for 3 years. I seen an MG4 SE Long Range for £199 advance payment and so tempted, so will give it a test drive and see if it suites my disability needs in terms of comfort and access. The good thing about the SE Long Range is it doesn't have the driver fatigue monitor, so thats a plus😂
James, many thanks for the video, unfortunately Its unwatchable until 11:21. I appreciate you’re honest and informative vehicle assessments.
Thanks for the review. The one competitor you didn’t mention is the Megane. What are your thoughts irrespective of price?
Cracking review and first time I’ve watched you. Now a subscriber 👍. Really interested to see what your real world motorway mileage will be. I’m hoping you get over 250 as I’m thinking of buying one soon and need that magic number.
Looking forward to the great used EV options when I move back to the UK in a few years😍
Excellent and honest review!
What are your thoughts on the oil leak? I’ve got a orange trophy lr coming and am very excited but many many people have reported the problem. It appears to be a possible over fill of the gear box and over flow but some haven’t had that easy a fix and been back in the work room for 3-4 weeks. Slightly worrying!
A great review James , i think I would like one with glass sunroof which I think would make interior a lot brighter.
BONG ... An insightful video James. Thank you.
BONG ... I'll be interested to know how it has been this last year and if they have reduced that annoying ...
BONG!!!
Agree about rear light cluster. That’ll break the first time it’s touched by another car, van or wheelybin. Defo get it PPF wrapped to help with scratching from washing, ice sliding from rear window etc.
Great to hear. Mg have come on such along way in such a short space of time . There knocking it out the park . And many people said they wouldn't cut it !
i'm one of them. currently eating my own hat as I am planning on buying an MG4 this year.
Really thought they would be a nasty budget brand I would never touch.
As always James a flicking good and honest video I’m hoping my Trophy in White gets delivered soon, I’ve loved the MG5 but looking forward to fun times in the MG4. I feel you will be called upon if that bonging is as annoying as it seems..is it the driver alert sensor? Thanks
Good presentation as usual.
I’m still waiting for my ZS mK2 which I ordered in December.
I have tested the new MG4 and put a trophy on order. Hopefully not another long wait.
A little concerned about all those bongs that you were experiencing on your test drive. During my test drive I did not have a single bong.
Great car. Bought one last week. This is my fourth EV. Just upgraded my MG5 for this. Very happy with it. Decent size family car. Lots of tech, brilliant range for LR model. Sadly this is one of the heaviest EV's so the efficiency isn't as good as MG5. On avarage so far we getting around 3.5kwh. MG5 did around 4kwh based on last 6k miles. Game changer for EV market making any other electric car overpriced 😅
That's pretty much the point of the MG4. Even those for whom it doesn't float their boat, it will still be an EV game changer. In that it will be a stark reminder to other car makers to remain competitive. And we all win when that happens.
Best MG 4 review by far here on RUclips ... IMHO
One main reason the initial MG eZS couldn’t be a taxi was because taxi licences ask that all passengers have a headrest, which was missing on centre rear seat. They did change this on later variant as well as learning and adding one to centre rear on MG5. So, I wonder why it’s missing from the MG4? Btw, thanks for the service and my m/kWh has raised again now the brakes are not hanging. Wee run through to Motherwell yesterday and home and mostly motorway driving got 5.4m/kWh. All hail the Wind-knife! (Ioniq)
👏thanks, that was insightful! one should be aware of when planning exit strategy from their deal (i.e. possibility to sell to cabbie - those who might have cash instead of finance...)
Hi - thanks for the great review. What's the audio system like in the Trophy?
Hi James, thanks for taking the time to put this together. Fantastic review that picks up some great points. Hopefully they can fix the boing issue! I managed to turn it off on the facelift ZS.
Does it have the USB outlet by the mirror for a dash cam and are the cameras higher definition than the facelift ZS?
The bongs are a driver attention thing on the Trohpy spec, which can't be turned off permanently, but can be muted permanently. No USB in the mirror. (I test drove one myself earlier today)
I've got the SE Long Range. Done a 170m round trip Saturday. Took it easy going up and achieved 4.2 mpkwh. Coming back upped the ACC to 70mph as opposed to 65 on the way up. Had a couple of toe down overtakes on the faster bits of A12 and A120. Overall 3.8 mpkwh on the up and back journey. I only got the car 2 days before (traded in the 3 year old ZS Exclusive EV). After a bit of local drop offs/running around 170 miles done and 33% range left. Would have had to stop for a top up on the ZS. The bongs stopped if I indicated when changing lanes. I managed to turn the lane keep assist off via the screen yesterday whilst driving local and no bongs.
Questions I still need answers to....
Is it capable of 11kw charging?
Remember the ZS days of trying to reach (was it) 439v for a balanced charge? What is it for the long range SE?🤔
While it's spectacular value (for an EV) a 2nd usb port in the rear, a lighter headlining and a courtesy light in the back would have added £50? To the list price,and nobody would notice the increase.
Best mg4 review to date James thank you! I thought the 11kw AC charging was on European models only, great news if on UK models also. Hoping to pick up one of these next year in Trophy spec, the wobbly rear spoiler is a bit concerning...
Apparently, the first batch of cars have several mistakes from the factory:-
600 SE models have the Trophy's privacy glass instead of just tinted, because they were built before the UK spec was finalised.
Some cars have the 11kW AC charging instead of 7kW.
The first 1300 cars will be supplied with Type 2 cables because MG couldn't get the granny leads they're supposed to have.
Excellent review mate as always did you say that one of the bongs was a speed camera alert which would be handy ?
Thanks for the video & just love it in this colour! Someone told me the colour doesn’t have resale value, but couldn’t disagree more.
Bong! Another great review James. Do you know when you are getting delivery of your MG4?
Some great info I've not seen on other reviews. Thanks. Especially good to hear the front seats are very supporting (like a Leaf's), as I love the Leaf seats and wouldn't buy the MG4 if it had uncomfortable seats.
Great Review, My current EV I actively use the paddles to set my own “regen” and for instance use zero-regen on a down hill to use zero throttle, then I can increase or decrease, it’s become an automatic response as part of driving so I would hope it’s as easy to set “regen” levels in the MG4..? Only downside, after observing all that fabulous technology that EV’s get it would appear that the MG4 like my current EV can’t have a rear wiper! 1st car I’ve owned in about 30 years that hasn’t got a rear wiper 😮
Cracking review. How would you rate MG in terms of leading the way with EVs?
Thanks, Tim. I think they will leaders in terms of sales initially in the lower price point, but they will widen their range to compete with more high end vehicles in time. They already have an Audi A6 equivalent in China 👍🏻
You're getting very good at this, James. Yes, I agree, the bong would drive me nuts. Is there not a hidden setting somewhere to lessen it, or kill it? Maybe you'll find it when you get your own.
It’s amazing the difference in a review from an EV person. Instead of a RUclipsr.
Things we need to know.
Test drove same car Fri and also kept getting a warning to stop and have a coffee break despite only driving it for 30 mins. However liked it and have ordered one (in grey). Hopefully there will be SW upgrade that will resolve that problem.
👍👍👍 Very tempted. Cheers James.
So I had a test drive in an MG4 today, really was fantastic.. seats are incredible, so comfortable, was told was 4 month wait ,… in Ireland…
Hi James - Loved the video !.
A few people have said the door cill's are both high and wide, making it difficult for some people to get in and out of the car, if they have any mobility issues.
The "Take a Break" constant bong warning needs an urgent update for sure !
A more worrying issue, is that some recent owners are reporting an oil leak from the rear area of the car, in the traction motor area !.
The early test press cars, did not have this problem, but some early customers cars have an oil leak.
Some chat suggests it maybe the reduction gear case that is leaking.
Hopefully it has just been over filled at the factory and is exhausting via the breather ?.
Fingers crossed its a quick fix.
White MG4 Trophy LR incoming from the Chorley lads, heading in your direction for Kate ???.
What's happening about your new Tesla model Y then James ?.
Was the bongs due to one of your cameras covering a sensor.
Does look a spankingley good car.
The rave lighting and orange car was a trip at the beginning of the video lol.
Has the bonging now been sorted? I test drove a trophy that was bonging and was told that it would be sorted with a software update.
Ordered one yesterday cracking car and super value for money, trophy Spec mainly as we have Motability and upfront payment is £250 with Motability contribution. It handles fantastic comfy. Like any car it has bits you think could be better but there's not many of them.
Ref the shiny black plastic problem , being a motorcyclist how about covering it with a sheet of clear plastic , no more scratches etc ( it’ll sort out that rear spoiler problem as well) . Just remember don’t tell the mrs you borrowed her hair dryer 😂😂😂😂
I tried it on saturday , as you said it's a great car !
Brilliant design on the HVAC. No stripping dashboards out to do repairs.
Another great vid well done.👍👍👍😎😎😎☕️☕️☕️
Is the interior available in anything lighter than black?
Great honest review and I agree completely with that rear end light bar it just doesn’t look good
Also, a good position for the charging port if anyone needs to use a Tesla Supercharger in the future.
Your camera frame rate is clashing with the studio lighting making you video hard to watch due to the constant flickering. Beware as this is a major issue for those suffering from Photosensitive epilepsy
Does the headlights have the same feature as the VW matrix system where it shades out incoming or following traffic?
Interested in the 51 kWh as a second family car. Why can't you have roof bars? Do you think not having heated seats nor heatpump would make a big difference in range in winter? Can you manually preheat the battery? (once you know you will fast.charge it) still can't decide between red and white...
Interestingly, in Sweden we get a heatpump. But then again it's a bit colder up here 😉
Hi James, does the trophy have an interior grab handle on the front passenger side, my disabled wife really needs one, was disappointed yesterday when our test drive of the SE had no grab handles at all.
Great car though, thanks in advance
I agree, I test drove Mg4 Trophy yesterday, it kept boinging away like no tomorrow, I used my thumb covered up the infrared sensor on top of the steering column and it seems to have cured it, think I’ll use a sellotape and tape it over
I’ve turned the bong volume on the coffee cup right down, still flashes the warning up but no noise.
When I tested the car I had bonging over and over. I soon realised if I put my hand in front of the sensor the bonging stopped. If I owned the car a piece of black card cut to the right size would be blue tacked to the sensor. I've not tried this but I reckon if it can't see you it will stop bonging. Loved the car but ordered the standard range SE as I don't need that range and feel Lifepo4 battery will last longer degrade less and can be left at 100% and discharged to 0% without damage. It's also a safer chemistry as far as fire goes. It can take many more charge cycles as well. Coming from a leaf these points are important to me.
The trouble with erroneous bongs is that if you are able to somehow get used to it.. when there really is something urgent requiring your attention you won't notice it. I couldn't tolerate the bongs but more importantly I can't manage a touch screen on the go so faffing around for heating controls in the software is not an option so it's a no from me. Great review as ever James, been looking forward to yours. I'll be interested to know how you disable the bongs in yours! 😂👍
You can use voice control for the AC.
@@markgaudie80 ooh I always forget about that, thanks. There is a slight problem in that I can never remember the name of the thing I want to work! Is it quite good at deciphering descriptions?🤔🤪
You can use the buttons on the steering wheel - need to set it to AC instead of for radio iirc, but there are 2 - one for each thumb! Can set it to control whichever function you want.
@@pmacftothank you for this but, sorry, old person here, no good at acronyms....iirc?
@@judebrown4103 no problem, it's "if I remember correctly" :)
My 2013 Nissan leaf is beyond economical repair at only 48k miles with full main dealer service history (regulator and motor error at 10k to repair) :( I loved my EV - BONG :) that made me smile when i needed it most so thank you
If the bongs keep switching themselves back on, might Cleevely offer a service to disable the loudspeaker (after getting the customer to sign a waiver)?
Great review and great channel. Why did you choose a white MG4? Or was there no option for colour at that time?
White is the free colour. So is blue.
@@WonkoTheSaneUK Ahh ... ok, thanks 🙏
Mg are working on software update to reduce the sensitivity of the face camera for the driver alertness system which is the cause of the multiple bong alerts
Test driven one on Friday and then placed my order excellent car and drive I currently have a Leaf which is a very good car but the battery technology and distance make the difference for me
Hi James, thx again for that perfect introduction. You are looking for details, no one else would: Scratches on the rear spoiler, shaking roof spoiler, funny 🙂 You mentioned that there is no heat pump option available. Here in Germany there shall be a heat pump in the Luxury version. Are you sure it´s not possible to have it in UK? KR Stephan
We have lost the rear seat armrest on all MG ZS EV models in Australia as well. Makes me wonder if there isn't a part issue at play with that.
Wouldn’t you be better with the SE LR if you don’t like the rear light bar? 🤔
Still has a very similar plastic rear but with a ducktail which I quite like on the SE spec.
Attention note is apparently being fixed soon, but in the mean time the sound can be turned off and does not come back on again automatically. It's the switch below the one used to turn off the attention note.
I’ve just taken the same model for a test drive, can confirm it was not bonging all the time at all, perhaps settings related in that particular car
We're seriously considering one. But a 260-mile round trip at the weekend made me wonder, at Hopwood Park there was a queue for Gridserve and 16 free Tesla Superchargers, which are not open to non-Tesla (yet). A 5 minute stop for Tesla- or a much longer wait for the rest.
Were you at HOYS?
My good lady charged up her Tesla Y at Hopwood 👍
We had the MG ZS EV (one of the first 500..). Had it 2 years. It was fab value. We went for the Y as soon as the order books opened (as we knew there were long trips (780miles return) needed due to family health issues). I loved the MG but the Model Y is just fantastic for long haul journeys. If it was for more local trips we would have this MG... It looks great imho.
Great review James. Honest take on it inho 👍
I didn't get a single bong on my test drive. Have a Trophy on order as my first EV, can't wait
I got the standard SE version, its great and agree with the driving and seats. Also no bongs! Dont like the fact everything resets when switched off but for the price, great value! If you dont particularly need the space, this is the one to get. Ours is in the tricoat red which I think is the best colour, altho you do pay extra for it. Its as wide as an MG5 but about a foot shorter. I got mine for £26,950 delivered to my door by Justevs within a week.
As to the bonging, I would just pull the appropriate fuse out that corresponds to the sound you do not need or find annoying.
Agreed on the bonging. There must be a software fix to stop that. It would drive me nuts and should be treated as a driver distraction and safety issue.
Also the rear lights are going to get smashed the first time something harder gets loaded into the boot. Or they would get smashed the second time I get a bruised rib from banging into it while loading the boot. Are they harking back to the 50s rocket/jet fins look?
Great review though. Thank you.
Great looking car, thanks for pointing out those design faults, for me I would prefer a light coloured roof lining as I'm not a fan of black interiors anyway, I will wait for the Mk 2 version when hopefully these irritating faults will have been ironed out !
A wee semi for this one. I took the trophy out for a drive and it didn’t bong me off the road. Kept hounding me about a slack rear tyre vocally. That’s the dealer failer to throw 2.9 bar in.
Loved the low ride n seat position, one finger up to SUVs. I like it. I put €500 down. For taxi use too
Quiet fast and that turning circle is awesome. The efficiency is high that leaf but battery pack is 2.2 x the range. So might be a non issue without heat pump too
What is the ‘de-bong’ package mentioned above?
Great review James as always just a couple of points the price on screen in your video is wrong for the car which you are driving which is the Trophy Model that is £31495 not £28494.
I agree the wheels look better without the aero covers and the bonging is now will reported on the MG forums and there is fix on the way I believe.
But yeh nice motor I have one on order for my wife to life with the 5 I have been driving for the passed 22 months with out issue apart from squeezing rear brakes when reversing which as been back to my local dealer 4 times now with out success they told me all EVs do this but I don’t believe them. What’s your thoughts.
Les
Says ‘LR Trophy from £28495’ which isn’t correct, the LR SE is from £28495.
Can you actually lift the rear seat bases?
Agree about the external polycarbonate type surfaces going to get scratched.
Got 4mi/kWh around lovely Welsh back roads yesterday. Got 3.5mi/kWh on a 900 miles mostly motorway trip last weekend.
Glad you said that... I thought I'd been done!
I’ve commented on a few reviews about the LFP battery in the SR model. Only Tesla offers that choice I think. So many advantages with LFP and it was the reason I ordered one a few weeks ago. Before getting the SE long range research LFP batteries.
Mg know and are working on a fix for the BONG, it goes off because you are looking away from the road, and at present is too sensitive. I am sure this will be an easy fix, for now you can turn the volume down so you don't hear it but still get the coffee cup warning on the dash.
I thought you could set on-screen settings for a button on the steering wheel?
Fantastic EV!
Thanks for another great update video I very good value car looks good in the colour just wish that black bit on the bottom was body colour. Yer pitty that plastic light bit and saw other reviews say that there is another plastic bit near rear door like fake windows looks to scratch easy on newish car but for the money looks a great car like the mg5 was .
The review of MG BONG 😁 I really like that rear spoiler thing at the top, the lower spec model have it stripped off and it just looks so weird! Great design overall. Would be interested in how reliable the app is, I don't expect Tesla quality out of it but hopefully it's good, especially if it can be used for the phone key feature. We would be happy with a short range version for mrs needs but you can't get heated steering wheel / seats on that and it'd be a deal breaker. So a bit disappointed on that front. BTW the trophy long range is not starting from 28k it's £31,495.00 on their web site so quite a bit more than the £25995 for SE.
"you can't get heated steering wheel / seats on that and it'd be a deal breaker" - As I understand it, you can "pre-condition" (i.e. warm up) the car via the app, before you even set foot out of your house; so I suspect heated wheel/seats are probably not that essential. I'll let you know when mine turns up in around 15 weeks!
James, what do you weigh? Some other reviewers were not happy with the seats.
Which consumption on highway? In kWh/km ?
Is it possible to sleep in the back with the seats down? I.e camp in the car?
17:29 well said James , interested to see how prices of the corsa e , Zoe and others change once they realise this is stealing sales .
Ooooo, have they!
@@AdrianMcDaid not that I'm aware of yet . will be keeping a eye on prices over the coming months .
Renault have said that the Zoe will not be replaced after the current model.
Why didn't you just take it outside and shoot the exterior to avoid the lighting issue? I'm assuming you couldn't set the camera to 25fps?
I haven’t seen the LFP chemistry that MG employ in the 51KWh battery discussed in any review yet… it looks like we can expect a lot more cheap, great quality cars using this LiFePo chemistry