One thing a lot of people have lost the ability to understand now with shows is that not everything is/supposed to be in service of just the plot. Things are allowed to breathe. Be one-offs. And also, just because you don’t understand some references or the intentions of a scene/character-doesn’t make the writing bad.
There are no light weights on the writing team of the Sopranos. This episode plays on Tennessee Williams, on Hamlet and themes of cultural pressures, the upper middle class elevating their black sheep, but simultaneously despises them. It's brilliant writing
I think the Sopranos can be a bit jarring for people who are used to the stuff that's been produced in the last decade. It has a different narrative structure. Most shows try to construct a convenient plot to reach some big moment in almost every episode, whereas the story of the Sopranos is told much more organically and realistically with a strong focus on character. It sacrifices some of the suspense you get in shows like Breaking Bad but on the other hand, it makes the narrative richer, more layered, with a lot of depth.
@@hansmahr8627 yes, I like how the scripts aren't written to a final act that makes the watcher "i have to see what's next", because it ended with a cliffhanger. Sopranos doesn't do cliffhangers, except maybe once. They just let the episode be.
The comedian is world building. One of the best things about the Sopranos is the world that is built around the main storyline. Don't get too concerned about "why is this on screen?" The comedian was establishing the pathetic, lifeless experience of living in that elder care home. Just watch it and let it take you into the scene.
It's really weird to get caught up in that. It's obvious that it's just a bad stand-up comedian, the real scene is the dialogue between Livia and Junior. Even stranger to attack the writer of the episode just because you're not getting it.
The scene where Christopher shoots the pastry guy in the foot is a direct homage to "Goodfellas", where a younger Michael Imperioli (the guy who plays Christopher) is shot in the foot by Joe Pesci's character. The pastry guy says something like " you shot my foot" and Christopher replies "It happens". Very clever if you're familiar with "Goodfellas". There are MANY more references to mafia movies in The Sopranos, especially "The Godfather". If u haven't seen these films, you won't get these references.
Oh yes! I picked up on that when I saw this episode, as well as the digging up an old body out of fear. Both great "tip of the hat" scenes to Goodfellas.
"Albacore on my neck" is a misremembering of the phrase "Albatross around my neck". It's from Rime of the Ancient Mariner, where the sea captain kills an albatross (which is bad luck) and it metaphorically hangs from his neck as the ship and crew are subjected to horrible misfortune.
The reason they wrote this episode is that some Italian Americans were offended that in The Sopranos, and pop culture in general, Italian Americans are mostly depicted as mobsters. Dr. Melfi's ex-husband represents their point of view.
ironically the head of the italian american group that was apparently outraged by the show tried to solicit a bribe multiple times for them to stop talking bad about the show.
Another great thing about this series is their use of malapropisms throughout. "Albacore around my neck" was a malapropism of "Albatross around my neck", a phrase that means someone is a constant burden to the person saying it. There is almost 1 of these in every episode, and it's fun to re-watch and catch them. In a future episode Tony says "I was prostate with grief" when the word should have been prostrate. Many of these are Freudian slips, or the character has heard it said before and didn't really say the phrase correctly, or the character is just STUPID. But they're always funny!
You haven't seen The Godfather?! You need to quickly catch-up on them and watch all three, as there's continuous references to the films here on The Sopranos, as well as to Goodfellas and other mob films. On another note, I was called Tony all my life unless my mum was talking about me/introducing me to someone in authority, in which case I became Anthony. Now it's Tony 95% of the time and Anthony on official forms, so carrying on that ole family tradition.
5:41 You go by Anthony until the first person calls you Tony. Then from that point on pretty much everyone is going to call you Tony. Happened to my friend Tony.
13:39 "Albacore around my neck". It's actually supposed to be an Albatross, a reference to Samuel Taylor Coleridges' 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner' in which the Albatross was hung around the Captains neck as penance for killing what was thought to be a bird of good omen for sailors.
Also its a subtle link between Tony and his Father, given he mucked up 'Genetically', which is funny given the similarity between them in that regard may itself be genetic lol.
@@adamclifton29 also Frank Vincent (Billy Batts in Goodfellas and Phil Leotardo on Sopranos), Tony Darrow (Sonny Bunz - owner of the Bamboo Lounge and Larry Barese), Chuck Low (Morrie Kessler - the wig salesman and Shlomo Teittleman), Frank Pellegrino (Johnny Dio - the guy who cooks the steaks in prison and the FBI chief on Sopranos), Vincent Pastore (helps Henry Hill move a rack of fur coats into the back of The Bamboo Lounge and Salvatore "Big P-ssy" Bonpensiero), Suzanne Shepherd (mother of Karen in Goodfellas and mother of Carmella in Sopranos), John Ciarcia (an associate of Frank Vincent's characters in both), Anthony Caso (one of Jimmy's truck hijackers and played Martin Scorsese going into a NYC nightclub on Sopranos), Paul Hernan (Henry Hill's "Pittsburgh Connection" and Peter "Beansie" Gaeta, the pizza parlor owner who gets paralyzed by Ritchie Aprile), Tony Lip (Frank "Frankie The Wop" Manzo and Carmine Lupertazzi), Nicole Burdette (girlfriend of Frankie Carbone in Goodfellas and Tony Soprano's sister Barbara), Nancy Cassaro (wife of Joe Buddah and first actress to play Christopher's mom), Marianne Leone Cooper (wife of Tuddy Cicero and second actress to play Christopher's mom), Frank Albanese (Henry Hill's lawyer the when he gets busted selling cigarettes and Uncle Pat), Tobin Bell (Jimmy's Parole Officer and Major Zwingli from the Military School they try to get A.J. into - he is also Jigsaw from the 'Saw' movies), Susan Varon (one of the mob wives at the make-up party and Christopher and Kelli's Realtor), Vito Antuofermo (a boxer in Goodfellas and the garbage truck company owner in Sopranos who has the garbage dumped on a customer's driveway), Gene Canfield (a prison guard in Goodfellas and a cop on Sopranos)... also Ray Liotta plays Henry Hill on Goodfellas and is also in the Sopranos prequel movie 'The Many Saints of Newark'
Sorry, but the problem is that you don't understand the references to Italian culture-- or some of the greatest movies ever made-- especially the Godfather series and Goodfellas, is NOT the producers' fault. And it also has nothing to do with those movies being a right of passage for one group of people either. If you had seen these all time classic movies (and the writers assumed that most people have seen) , you would have understood those references easily. But the part that seems to irritate you most was when Uncle Junior and Tony's mom were talking in the retirement home about Tony going to a psychiatrist. They talk about it while watching a horrible comedian and at a church service. But the point is that a mob boss is going to a shrink and possibly exposing them all!!!! It was a key development in the whole freaking series and you seemed to miss it, at least partially, because you were obsessed with the comedian. The scene has Nothing to do with the bad comedian any more than it had to do with the priest at the service in the last scene. I usually like watching your reactions but honestly I was probably as irritated watching your reaction to episode 8 as you were with the episode. I suggest that you guys watch The Godfather and Goodfellas together, and soon, as they are constantly referenced in this series. Regardless, I do like your reactions as a rule💖
I find it pretty annoying listening to someone gripe about something they think is bad when all along its really their lack of knowledge is keeping them from understanding what is actually happening. These two are bad about doing that. Things go right over their heads and they think it's a failing of the show.
It's bizarre she is so focused on the comic and jokes that aren't funny which was kind of the point. She completely overlooks the part where Livia throws her son under the bus by revealing something dangerous to Junior. She is missing the main points of the episode.
yeah that went over their heads. We people who are informed on the outfits know that if others find out a capo is seeing a shrink automatically makes him a whack request that usually gets the ok.
This was a hard reaction to watch man, why was the Mrs so hung up on weird details and even go out of her way to attack the writers?? LOL The point of the “comedian” scene was obviously to establish how insufferable the retirement home is and more importantly the dialogue between Livia and Junior. Also getting mad over the focusing on these italian american families talking about italian american issues and struggles, flawed or not, idk wtf happened this reaction I had such a positive experience with all the other ones. Hope to see more positivity or at least reasonable criticism next reactions
The comedian said "Your salad bar looks like the "Zapruder film". Which is the footage of John f. Kennedy getting his head blown off".Such a specific joke for the seniors LOL.
Many references to the godfather movies and Goodfellas. Christopher shoots in the bakery is like when the actor who plays Christopher get shot by Joe Peshi in Goodfellas. Many of the sopranos cast starred in these movies.
Loving the reactions to the Sopranos! I always tune in on thursdays, it's fun to watch. I noticed you guys were wondering why they spend so much time in minute details and scenes of random stuff in the show (i.e the standup guy in the old home). I think that's the beauty of the show, it's the little things that they do. These little things like Tony spending time with his kids and interacting with his family is what adds to extra layer of sympathy towards him (from the audiences POV). This show revolutionized the wires, the breaking bads, it really made you empathize with the villain.
They don't make up their own words. The words they use are part of southern Italian dialects (more like different Latin based languages with influences of all the people who settled or ruled that region like Greek, Normand, Arabic, Catalan, etc) and specifically Neapolitan. Common feature of the dialect is the silencing of the vowels at the end.
It's better for Meadow to know because she isn't gonna go full mafioso. She's a woman, despite the rules (of which there are of course exceptions). Anthony knowing what his dad does + starting to get into teenage delinquency years means he's getting closer to becoming Tony, much like how Tony became his dad in many ways
It may seem slow now. But this will 100% be the show you watch over and over in the future. Guaranteed. The characters who are introduced in the next couple seasons, are the best ever written on television. It’s an entirely different show after the first couple seasons. The way they film and write, will all change in the most impressive and addictive ways.
Sfogliatelle it's an Italian pastry. Most of the sopranos cast are ethically southern Italian mostly from Napoli, it's a neapolitan dialect, they are not inventing their own words they are pronouncing traditional Italian words through a neapolitan dialect.
I got diagnosed with ADD or ADHD when I was back in middle school. Years later I was diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder, and when I talked to my doctors about my behavior since that far back they said I might have been misdiagnosed. I agree that a lot of the time when people are diagnosing children they misdiagnose them when they are too ready to label a child with whatever they have in mind instead of trying to figure out the actual problem and preventing developmental problems.
Italian pastries: a Napoleon is a pastry made of thin sheets of dough interleaved with a creamy filling. for a Sfogliatelle you take a Napoleon, fold it in half & fill it with a large dollop of filling in the pocket. both are very fancy, tasty & expensive.
Another consideration for this episode and the series overall is that the show's creator, David Chase, is an Italian-American whose family name is DeCesare before they changed it.
Hasn't watched The Godfather...bitches about not getting basic references in The Sopranos. There was a major Goodfellas reference in there too. The actor who plays Christo[her gets his foot shot in Goodfellas.
it dropped down to 3rd greatest show for me because of the bad prequel behind 'The Wire' and 'Breaking Bad' which has an awesome prequel show 'Better Call Saul' and a sequel movie 'El Camino. but those are definitely the 3 greatest shows of all time for me.
Godfather is 1000% an Italian-American right of passage. First rated R movie. Great-grandparents I was blessed to have as a tot cited Godfather II as practically a documentary
The Godfather is a very theatrical and Hollywood dipiction of the Italian-American mafia. Godfather II may have been more realistic but then again, films back then didnt have much realism at all. Godfellas by Scorsese dpicted the life a bit more realistically. Even then it's still Hollywoodised. Gomorrah is probably the most realistic but that's Italian.
@@pmbbmp I get your point and it's a good point and has validity, for sure. But we can point to obvious things like Tom Hagen being half-German, half-Irish. There is no way in hell, he would have been made Consligere in an Italo-American Mafia family with not even half-Italian blood but no Italian blood. I also wonder if the film would have been so romanticized has the Colombo family not have got involved and nearly killed production. I'm not saying The Godfather is unrealistic. But Colombo family and the Italian-American Civil Rights movement muscled on production forcing the producers to make in a way that's rather more favourable to Italian-Americans. I think Goodfellas is more "warts and all." Mafia were involved in drugs, they weren't about honour and respect and all those things. The reality was most of these people were like brutish, murderous animals. I know Goodfellas is set 30- 40 years after The Goodfather and focussing on associates and not high ranking guys but I think the stlye of filmmaking is a bit more gritty and less romantized.
Greatest Show ever created. I was lucky enough to see the whole thing during its run when I was a kid. Do you know how painful it was to wait a week before the next episode!? The time between Seasons was torture. My father and I had our Sopranos and pizza Sunday night ritual. Awesome times.
Jesus woman, humour is not always on the nose. The unfunny standup was well placed for where he was supposed to be. It also opens up to the main topic of the segment: Livia and Jr Soprano. The therapist in the end obviously fits his character. It's not HAHA funny, it's a dry humour that you just let it slide with scoff.
"Mafioso" is a word in spanish. We use it like an adjetive, like "He looks like a "mafioso" (mob guy)". Love rewatch it sopranos with you, but I also understand when you say that the serie is hard to react, because is really a serie from another time, I can't imagine be filming right now. Anyways, best wishes from Argentina!
That's one of the greatest parts of this show, the ending of episode 7 when everyone watching agrees with Tony about his son, he feels like a real dad looking out for his child and is very relatable, he just also happens to be in the mafia and cheats, robs and kills people. Also hilarious that right after 21:21 the video crashed on my computer, thought it was an editing joke at first.
@@MrsMovies Yes of course!! 😂 We are getting a big snowstorm in NY tomorrow night into Saturday so I’m gonna be stuck in for some time LOL. I’ll message you guys!! 😎🍿
35:54 Sopranos Writers: "you don't like this episode... wait until you get to the dream episodes... and the FBI planting the bug episode... and the cut to black"
I am sure it has been mentioned but the bakery scene is in reference to the scene in “Goodfellas” where Micheal Imperioli was shot in the foot by Joe Pesci.
The Christopher dream was hell. Within the context of the show, dreams are a connection to the afterlife and hell is described as personalized to the damned soul. Christopher hates mundanity and deli work is mundane as it gets for a guy like him. The "You will have our sausages" line wasn't just a reference to the Imael line in the pilot. It was a warning from beyond the grave that Christopher is gonna go to hell when he dies. It might seem like awkward, dream logic, but it's actually pretty genius writing.
To answer your question: Schviadel is a shell-shaped pastry filled with a custard-like filling. The name "schviadel" is actually an Italian American dialect. The name of the pastry in proper Italian is sfogliatella, in English, they're sometimes called lobster tails. "Sfogliatella" actually means "small, thin leaf," as the pastry's texture resembles stacked leaves. Italian, as a language, has a lot of dialects. In fact, there was no "proper" Italian language until something like the 19th Century. So most Italian American words are based on dialects and not proper Italian.
Standard Italian is not inherently more "proper" in reality (only as part of an arbitrary social construct) nor is Napulitan' a dialect of the "Italian" language. Italian (Il Dolce Stil Novo) is one language and Napulitan' (and its various dialects, such as the antiquated ones used by characters in the show and in real life in this part of NJ) not to mention Sicilianu are their own languages. What Italian-Americans speak is not "bases on" dialect either, it's actually dialect from 100-120 years ago that has been frozen in time, unaffected by the spread/influence of "Standard" Italian like the dialects in Italy have been.
@@AirBuddDwyer you're right, "proper" was the wrong word. Standard is more correct. It might be a dialect that's 120 years old and frozen in time, but it's still based on a dialect. The age of the dialect doesn't effect that it's still a dialect.
@@jflaugher Pretty sure we're in agreement. "Based on" just sounded to me like you were saying they started with dialect and changed it into something that no longer qualified. The reality is (and people should realize this when they insinuate Italian-Americans "butcher" the language) that Italian-Americans would never change anything that was traditional ever for any reason (for better or for worse) unless they were dragged into it kicking and screaming
I know probably 4 Tony’s. One’s family calls him Anthony while we his friends call him Tony. I’d say if you’re an Anthony, you maybe become a Tony when you’re a teenager or so, and your buddies start giving you nicknames, maybe it’s a way of separating your child self from coming of age self. I’m John, my middle name is Paul, and I get called John, John Paul, or JP, and that’s been my whole life...
I'm not going to shallowly say it's a bad thing like many people would, but the fact that it's been several decades since they started putting a device in vending machines for snacks to prevent theft, but to this day as far as I know there's no such device for newspaper boxes really says something about people's priorities.
Well you can use multiple drinks or snacks and enjoy them everytime. Why would you need more than one copy of a newspaper? Like for what reason would you want to steal extra newspapers? They all say the same thing.
My Grandpa is an Anthony Jr. as well. he goes by Tony now and has ever since I've been alive at least. I will be more than happy to ask him when he started going by Tony and get back to y'all.
I was born Anthony, but became Baby Tony immediately after. Drivers license says Anthony, still go by Tony 57 years later. But, heck, I'll answer to either. Love the reactions...Keep em coming.
I think in a situation like this, while you're at home, you're always Anthony when your father's named Tony. So you know who's being spoken to. You could go Tony jr, but that makes it sound even more like a child.
The rules are your mom calls you Anthony, your dad calls you Anthony when hes angry, and your friends call you Tony until one day theres only people calling you Tony around
When he said, "you're like an albacore around my neck" he obviously meant albatross. But like Tony, who said genetical in a previous scene, they often misuse words or make up their own because while they are street smart, they aren't well educated. And Christopher bought up all of those papers from that stand to give out to his friends. A stranger reading the name Christopher Moltisante wouldn't mean anything because they don't know him. Now he can brag to the guys he's notorious. It's what's been driving Chris. Remember when clipped the Czech guy Emile, he thought that hit would elevate his status, and it didn't, which led to the case of cowboyitis. He wanted to be a known guy. Christopher is not a made man yet. He is just an associate. He wants the opportunity to move up the ladder so he can get made.
The redhead is Paula from season 6 of the walking dead. She captures carol and Maggie after Rick and the gang take out the saviors at the satellite station.
Nancy Marchand, the lady who plays Tony's mother, just before this series played Mrs. Pynchon the elegant owner of the paper in the drama series Lou Grant.
David Chase is a great TV writer, not a great movie writer. TV lends itself to character building, world building, structure, continuity, but he was one of the first TV writers to have that established continuity, the world building. The stand up comic is just there, he's not important. It reminds me of Twin Peaks, which came a few years before. Chase hates that he's not a movie writer, and doesn't realize he's fantastic at a series. He headed the greatest television series ever written, his movies flopped. After he dies, people are going to watch The Sopranos in awe at how such a series could exist, and they will ignore his movies on Netflix.
Well, not every brilliant writer can be versatile. TV is different from film. Prose books are different graphic novels/comic books/manga. Stageplays are different from poetry( Chase's first movie as a writer was a B-horror film called "Grave Of The Vampire", BTW). I understand his frustration because he worked in broadcast TV since the 70s when it was just three major networks (HBO was around, but didn't have original scripted programming) and the rules was pretty strict. Go watch "The Rockford Files", which he wrote and produced during the second to sixth seasons. Great stuff. Some of the dayplayers on "Rockford" have appeared on "Sopranos", like Richard Romanus, who played Dr. Melfi's ex-husband.
@@Madbandit77 It's on my list. I'm glad somebody who has some brains replied to me, for once. I was just in the heat of the moment, excited that two decent persons were watching my favorite show, and It's been about four years since my last rewatch so I'm all passionate about it. Rockford Files have been on my list, but if you're recommending it, I think I have to bump it up
According some exMafioso one of the unrealistic things is the psychiatrist. According to him was if someone like Tony went to a psychiatrist and his associates found out, both he and the psychiatrist would be in the trunk of a car the same day.
Incase you didn't see the last 23 straight comments about the reference to Goodfellas and the infamous foot injury. I too... will now tell you the great reference, that so many have spoiled for you. Christopher is played by Michael Imperioli. This guy was a small character in a very well put together mob movie. The small character played by Michael is named Spider, based on the real life Michael Gianco. The real Henry Hill said everything in Imperioli's two scenes happened allegedly, kinda hard to take that degenerates word for it. The second scene after the foot injury I will not get into detail.
I hope you guys do Devil's Advocate. Also, in a smart move, Chrissy actually fucks up the story so he ends up NOT spoiling it. That's one of my favorites.
sfogliatelle are not croissants, they're pretty different in shape, texture and flavour. They're filled with ricotta cheese and have powder sugar on top. It's a typical neapolitan pastry and comes in two shapes: riccia or frolla (second one is my favourite). Also, the way they're pronounciating the pastry's name comes from neapolitan dialect, which usually calls them "sfugliatell"
I think this show may be a little too intellectually challenging for this woman. You also need to have at least some cultural and historical awareness to “get” what the show’s commenting on. She’s not going to enjoy any of it.
There is a guy in the comments who wrote this: "There are no light weights on the writing team of the Sopranos. This episode plays on Tennessee Williams, on Hamlet and themes of cultural pressures, the upper middle class elevating their black sheep, but simultaneously despises them. It's brilliant writing"-beanie man He was able to defend the writing in this episode without pretentiously diminishing her intellect. Not every person has the same cultural and historical awareness, she may well know plenty that you or I don't. She is a smart woman; she is making money of people watching her watch tv.
@@bluebird3281 She derives no insight and makes no connections (or at least never expresses any vocally- which is odd for someone who’s making “commentary”). This will only get worse for her as the show becomes less driven by the narrative and more contemplative and metaphorical. So I stand by what I said. If that “diminishes” her, I guess that’s just too bad. She shouldn’t do something that opens her to criticism from the public.
If she or the cowboy can’t even pick up on theme (in this case the personal history and the ancestral history of people and how they manifest in the present) then this show is just gonna fly right over their heads. Just like it did for the original audience who bitched that there wasn’t enough “mob stuff”, which the show directly addressed in later seasons by becoming even more philosophical.
People who go from Breaking Bad to The Sopranos have a hard time justifying ''pointless'' scenes. Remember that this is a straight up family drama, which happens to involve the mafia. Whereas Breaking Bad is more of a crime drama, which happens to involve some family stuff.
17:35 I hope you took notice of that look, man. Any more comments like that will guarantee you a smothering. There are some things we just aren't supposed to mention in public 😁😂
One thing a lot of people have lost the ability to understand now with shows is that not everything is/supposed to be in service of just the plot. Things are allowed to breathe. Be one-offs. And also, just because you don’t understand some references or the intentions of a scene/character-doesn’t make the writing bad.
Right
Agreed
Also, a lot of times people forget that characters can lie to other characters too and chalk it up to "bad writing".
Yes she is annoying, i wish they would do version where they would cut out all of her stupid questions and just leave the actual reactions.
There are no light weights on the writing team of the Sopranos. This episode plays on Tennessee Williams, on Hamlet and themes of cultural pressures, the upper middle class elevating their black sheep, but simultaneously despises them. It's brilliant writing
what impressed me was how David Chase "let a writer go" if he didn't like their script. It's tough, it's sad, but still fair.
"Me don't understand me mad"
I think the Sopranos can be a bit jarring for people who are used to the stuff that's been produced in the last decade. It has a different narrative structure. Most shows try to construct a convenient plot to reach some big moment in almost every episode, whereas the story of the Sopranos is told much more organically and realistically with a strong focus on character. It sacrifices some of the suspense you get in shows like Breaking Bad but on the other hand, it makes the narrative richer, more layered, with a lot of depth.
@@mikemath9508 Chase wrote that episode.
@@hansmahr8627 yes, I like how the scripts aren't written to a final act that makes the watcher "i have to see what's next", because it ended with a cliffhanger. Sopranos doesn't do cliffhangers, except maybe once. They just let the episode be.
The comedian is world building. One of the best things about the Sopranos is the world that is built around the main storyline. Don't get too concerned about "why is this on screen?" The comedian was establishing the pathetic, lifeless experience of living in that elder care home. Just watch it and let it take you into the scene.
It's not an Elder Care Home, it's a a RETIREMENT COMMUNITAAAYYYYY!!! 😡✋👉
And it's more like a hotel at Captain Teebs!
@@CosmicApe2 Who is he ?
@@Ahmed-vz7fd A captain who owns luxury hotels or something. I don't know.
It's really weird to get caught up in that. It's obvious that it's just a bad stand-up comedian, the real scene is the dialogue between Livia and Junior.
Even stranger to attack the writer of the episode just because you're not getting it.
The scene where Christopher shoots the pastry guy in the foot is a direct homage to "Goodfellas", where a younger Michael Imperioli (the guy who plays Christopher) is shot in the foot by Joe Pesci's character. The pastry guy says something like " you shot my foot" and Christopher replies "It happens". Very clever if you're familiar with "Goodfellas". There are MANY more references to mafia movies in The Sopranos, especially "The Godfather". If u haven't seen these films, you won't get these references.
In Christopher's defense that baker did insult him a little bit.
@@12spanku I see what you did there! 🤣🤣🤣
Whaddya hear, whaddya say
Oh yes! I picked up on that when I saw this episode, as well as the digging up an old body out of fear. Both great "tip of the hat" scenes to Goodfellas.
these people shouldn’t be watching the sopranos if they haven’t watched godfather/ goodfellas
"Albacore on my neck" is a misremembering of the phrase "Albatross around my neck". It's from Rime of the Ancient Mariner, where the sea captain kills an albatross (which is bad luck) and it metaphorically hangs from his neck as the ship and crew are subjected to horrible misfortune.
The reason they wrote this episode is that some Italian Americans were offended that in The Sopranos, and pop culture in general, Italian Americans are mostly depicted as mobsters. Dr. Melfi's ex-husband represents their point of view.
ironically the head of the italian american group that was apparently outraged by the show tried to solicit a bribe multiple times for them to stop talking bad about the show.
@@moodfm5673 wasn't it started by a mafia guy in the first place?
She doesn’t get the references but she also hasn’t seen the most famous movies ever. So maybe it’s a you thing?
exactly
Another great thing about this series is their use of malapropisms throughout. "Albacore around my neck" was a malapropism of "Albatross around my neck", a phrase that means someone is a constant burden to the person saying it. There is almost 1 of these in every episode, and it's fun to re-watch and catch them. In a future episode Tony says "I was prostate with grief" when the word should have been prostrate. Many of these are Freudian slips, or the character has heard it said before and didn't really say the phrase correctly, or the character is just STUPID. But they're always funny!
Little Carmine is hilarious with those.
@@andrewcharles459 He's allegorical.
The sacred and the propane
They are uneducated but still highly intelligent or at least the guys on the top
these men want to be cultured but dont read is what i understood by their misquotes
You haven't seen The Godfather?! You need to quickly catch-up on them and watch all three, as there's continuous references to the films here on The Sopranos, as well as to Goodfellas and other mob films. On another note, I was called Tony all my life unless my mum was talking about me/introducing me to someone in authority, in which case I became Anthony. Now it's Tony 95% of the time and Anthony on official forms, so carrying on that ole family tradition.
We will be watching The Godfather (all three) very soon!! Within the next few months.
@@MrsMovies Fantastic! Look forward to those.
**with a scowl**
Our true enemy.
Has yet.
To reveal himself.
5:41
You go by Anthony until the first person calls you Tony. Then from that point on pretty much everyone is going to call you Tony. Happened to my friend Tony.
Happened to my friend Bomschwenkel too
Murder incorporated is an obscure reference in a mob story?
This was when the History channel was actually about history. Now its just entertainment for small minds.
13:39 "Albacore around my neck". It's actually supposed to be an Albatross, a reference to Samuel Taylor Coleridges' 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner' in which the Albatross was hung around the Captains neck as penance for killing what was thought to be a bird of good omen for sailors.
Finally, someone who gets the reference.
The sacred and the propane.
Damn Iron Maiden fans get everywhere..
Also its a subtle link between Tony and his Father, given he mucked up 'Genetically', which is funny given the similarity between them in that regard may itself be genetic lol.
@@jannneumann5766 Up the Irons
I find it amusing how this show references Goodfellas so many times considering Lorraine Bracco was in that movie.
Not just Lorraine Bracco. 'Paulie' is in it as well and 'Christopher' is in it too. He gets shot at the bar by Joe Pesci
@@adamclifton29 in the foot, like how he shoots the kid in the pastry shop
@@adamclifton29 also Frank Vincent (Billy Batts in Goodfellas and Phil Leotardo on Sopranos), Tony Darrow (Sonny Bunz - owner of the Bamboo Lounge and Larry Barese), Chuck Low (Morrie Kessler - the wig salesman and Shlomo Teittleman), Frank Pellegrino (Johnny Dio - the guy who cooks the steaks in prison and the FBI chief on Sopranos), Vincent Pastore (helps Henry Hill move a rack of fur coats into the back of The Bamboo Lounge and Salvatore "Big P-ssy" Bonpensiero), Suzanne Shepherd (mother of Karen in Goodfellas and mother of Carmella in Sopranos), John Ciarcia (an associate of Frank Vincent's characters in both), Anthony Caso (one of Jimmy's truck hijackers and played Martin Scorsese going into a NYC nightclub on Sopranos), Paul Hernan (Henry Hill's "Pittsburgh Connection" and Peter "Beansie" Gaeta, the pizza parlor owner who gets paralyzed by Ritchie Aprile), Tony Lip (Frank "Frankie The Wop" Manzo and Carmine Lupertazzi), Nicole Burdette (girlfriend of Frankie Carbone in Goodfellas and Tony Soprano's sister Barbara), Nancy Cassaro (wife of Joe Buddah and first actress to play Christopher's mom), Marianne Leone Cooper (wife of Tuddy Cicero and second actress to play Christopher's mom), Frank Albanese (Henry Hill's lawyer the when he gets busted selling cigarettes and Uncle Pat), Tobin Bell (Jimmy's Parole Officer and Major Zwingli from the Military School they try to get A.J. into - he is also Jigsaw from the 'Saw' movies), Susan Varon (one of the mob wives at the make-up party and Christopher and Kelli's Realtor), Vito Antuofermo (a boxer in Goodfellas and the garbage truck company owner in Sopranos who has the garbage dumped on a customer's driveway), Gene Canfield (a prison guard in Goodfellas and a cop on Sopranos)... also Ray Liotta plays Henry Hill on Goodfellas and is also in the Sopranos prequel movie 'The Many Saints of Newark'
Just when I thought I was out, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!
If I remember right, nearly 30 different actors from Goodfellas appeared in Sopranos
Sorry, but the problem is that you don't understand the references to Italian culture-- or some of the greatest movies ever made-- especially the Godfather series and Goodfellas, is NOT the producers' fault.
And it also has nothing to do with those movies being a right of passage for one group of people either.
If you had seen these all time classic movies (and the writers assumed that most people have seen) , you would have understood those references easily.
But the part that seems to irritate you most was when Uncle Junior and Tony's mom were talking in the retirement home about Tony going to a psychiatrist. They talk about it while watching a horrible comedian and at a church service. But the point is that a mob boss is going to a shrink and possibly exposing them all!!!!
It was a key development in the whole freaking series and you seemed to miss it, at least partially, because you were obsessed with the comedian.
The scene has Nothing to do with the bad comedian any more than it had to do with the priest at the service in the last scene.
I usually like watching your reactions but honestly I was probably as irritated watching your reaction to episode 8 as you were with the episode.
I suggest that you guys watch The Godfather and Goodfellas together, and soon, as they are constantly referenced in this series.
Regardless, I do like your reactions as a rule💖
Took the words from my mouth
I find it pretty annoying listening to someone gripe about something they think is bad when all along its really their lack of knowledge is keeping them from understanding what is actually happening. These two are bad about doing that. Things go right over their heads and they think it's a failing of the show.
i 100% agree
It's bizarre she is so focused on the comic and jokes that aren't funny which was kind of the point. She completely overlooks the part where Livia throws her son under the bus by revealing something dangerous to Junior. She is missing the main points of the episode.
yeah that went over their heads. We people who are informed on the outfits know that if others find out a capo is seeing a shrink automatically makes him a whack request that usually gets the ok.
This was a hard reaction to watch man, why was the Mrs so hung up on weird details and even go out of her way to attack the writers?? LOL The point of the “comedian” scene was obviously to establish how insufferable the retirement home is and more importantly the dialogue between Livia and Junior. Also getting mad over the focusing on these italian american families talking about italian american issues and struggles, flawed or not, idk wtf happened this reaction I had such a positive experience with all the other ones. Hope to see more positivity or at least reasonable criticism next reactions
Right... why wouldn't an Italian-American family be bothered about discrimination and bad PR for their people in America? lol what a weird take...
She's a little bit of a rainy day.
I wish the comedian was in every episode to annoy you.
I love this, every Friday I chill to watch yous react, thank you!
The comedian said "Your salad bar looks like the "Zapruder film". Which is the footage of John f. Kennedy getting his head blown off".Such a specific joke for the seniors LOL.
Yes. It would be wasted on people who are not up on not too distant American history, I guess.
Many references to the godfather movies and Goodfellas. Christopher shoots in the bakery is like when the actor who plays Christopher get shot by Joe Peshi in Goodfellas. Many of the sopranos cast starred in these movies.
Loving the reactions to the Sopranos! I always tune in on thursdays, it's fun to watch. I noticed you guys were wondering why they spend so much time in minute details and scenes of random stuff in the show (i.e the standup guy in the old home). I think that's the beauty of the show, it's the little things that they do. These little things like Tony spending time with his kids and interacting with his family is what adds to extra layer of sympathy towards him (from the audiences POV). This show revolutionized the wires, the breaking bads, it really made you empathize with the villain.
They don't make up their own words. The words they use are part of southern Italian dialects (more like different Latin based languages with influences of all the people who settled or ruled that region like Greek, Normand, Arabic, Catalan, etc) and specifically Neapolitan. Common feature of the dialect is the silencing of the vowels at the end.
It's better for Meadow to know because she isn't gonna go full mafioso. She's a woman, despite the rules (of which there are of course exceptions). Anthony knowing what his dad does + starting to get into teenage delinquency years means he's getting closer to becoming Tony, much like how Tony became his dad in many ways
Yeah, I don't get why this was so hard for them to grasp.
It may seem slow now. But this will 100% be the show you watch over and over in the future. Guaranteed. The characters who are introduced in the next couple seasons, are the best ever written on television. It’s an entirely different show after the first couple seasons. The way they film and write, will all change in the most impressive and addictive ways.
2:24 oh youre gonna pay for that one: she went all quiet lolololol
This show is the greatest not for fun, or mob work. It’s the greatest because it’s show us the real life as maximum it possible
Sfogliatelle it's an Italian pastry. Most of the sopranos cast are ethically southern Italian mostly from Napoli, it's a neapolitan dialect, they are not inventing their own words they are pronouncing traditional Italian words through a neapolitan dialect.
Doesn't it translate to lobster's tail, or something? That's what I've heard, anyway.
@@liamroberts1458 it is only called lobster tail in the US. It means small thin leaf.
7:43 - a lot of room in that trunk. LOL I guess there has to be for his line of work
I got diagnosed with ADD or ADHD when I was back in middle school. Years later I was diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder, and when I talked to my doctors about my behavior since that far back they said I might have been misdiagnosed. I agree that a lot of the time when people are diagnosing children they misdiagnose them when they are too ready to label a child with whatever they have in mind instead of trying to figure out the actual problem and preventing developmental problems.
Italian pastries: a Napoleon is a pastry made of thin sheets of dough interleaved with a creamy filling. for a Sfogliatelle you take a Napoleon, fold it in half & fill it with a large dollop of filling in the pocket. both are very fancy, tasty & expensive.
Another consideration for this episode and the series overall is that the show's creator, David Chase, is an Italian-American whose family name is DeCesare before they changed it.
Cant wait for them to see Carmine Lupertazzi Jr and his sub species of allegorical malapropisms 😂😂😂
Hasn't watched The Godfather...bitches about not getting basic references in The Sopranos. There was a major Goodfellas reference in there too. The actor who plays Christo[her gets his foot shot in Goodfellas.
Annoying isn't it? Rather than accepting that you may not be informed on certain things she takes the high road and deems it ''bad writing''. Lmao.
Greatest show ever made, you better get ya attitude right missy lol both episodes were fantastic
it dropped down to 3rd greatest show for me because of the bad prequel behind 'The Wire' and 'Breaking Bad' which has an awesome prequel show 'Better Call Saul' and a sequel movie 'El Camino. but those are definitely the 3 greatest shows of all time for me.
@@billymuellerTikTok nah still is the greatest these ones you mentioned are good but not great
@@billymuellerTikTok Breaking Bad is ABSOLUTELY the greatest show ever made. I adore The Sopranos, but Breaking Bad is next level.
@@BakerReviews watch the wire if you haven’t yet
@@BakerReviews No way, i watched it and it definently isn't better then Sopranos. Fuggetaboutit.
the psychiatrist with glasses that the other one consults is Hollywood legend & director Peter Bogdanovich, who actually died a couple weeks ago.
Godfather is 1000% an Italian-American right of passage. First rated R movie. Great-grandparents I was blessed to have as a tot cited Godfather II as practically a documentary
Also, sfogliatelle is a layered flaky pastry, not a puff pastry. Nothing like a croissant. :)
The Godfather is a very theatrical and Hollywood dipiction of the Italian-American mafia.
Godfather II may have been more realistic but then again, films back then didnt have much realism at all.
Godfellas by Scorsese dpicted the life a bit more realistically. Even then it's still Hollywoodised.
Gomorrah is probably the most realistic but that's Italian.
@@pmbbmp I get your point and it's a good point and has validity, for sure.
But we can point to obvious things like Tom Hagen being half-German, half-Irish. There is no way in hell, he would have been made Consligere in an Italo-American Mafia family with not even half-Italian blood but no Italian blood.
I also wonder if the film would have been so romanticized has the Colombo family not have got involved and nearly killed production.
I'm not saying The Godfather is unrealistic. But Colombo family and the Italian-American Civil Rights movement muscled on production forcing the producers to make in a way that's rather more favourable to Italian-Americans.
I think Goodfellas is more "warts and all." Mafia were involved in drugs, they weren't about honour and respect and all those things. The reality was most of these people were like brutish, murderous animals. I know Goodfellas is set 30- 40 years after The Goodfather and focussing on associates and not high ranking guys but I think the stlye of filmmaking is a bit more gritty and less romantized.
I meant MY first rated-R movie, @playNow. Was way, way young Lol!!
Greatest Show ever created. I was lucky enough to see the whole thing during its run when I was a kid. Do you know how painful it was to wait a week before the next episode!? The time between Seasons was torture. My father and I had our Sopranos and pizza Sunday night ritual. Awesome times.
Damn that sounds fantastic. I was born in 86. Didn't watch it til around 4 years ago
Is the woman watching this a bit thick? Can she not tell the comedian is meant to be bad to show what life is life in the retirement home?
Jesus woman, humour is not always on the nose. The unfunny standup was well placed for where he was supposed to be. It also opens up to the main topic of the segment: Livia and Jr Soprano. The therapist in the end obviously fits his character. It's not HAHA funny, it's a dry humour that you just let it slide with scoff.
"Oh, cause he stole the money." No, because he might need the money to get out of town.
"why is this episode so focused on your family's history" Oh boy will this be fun lol
lmao
"Mafioso" is a word in spanish. We use it like an adjetive, like "He looks like a "mafioso" (mob guy)". Love rewatch it sopranos with you, but I also understand when you say that the serie is hard to react, because is really a serie from another time, I can't imagine be filming right now. Anyways, best wishes from Argentina!
That's one of the greatest parts of this show, the ending of episode 7 when everyone watching agrees with Tony about his son, he feels like a real dad looking out for his child and is very relatable, he just also happens to be in the mafia and cheats, robs and kills people. Also hilarious that right after 21:21 the video crashed on my computer, thought it was an editing joke at first.
Tell the broad to stop taking herself so seriously
"I hate it when technology doesn't work"
Couldn't agree more 😂
I wonder if they’ll remember the big guy in the pastry shop when Vito comes into the show.
by 'the show' you mean Johnny Cakes
@@billymuellerTikTok nah. Earlier than that mate. I think it was season 3 or 4.
@@Paul77ozee I meant the different spelling of comes LOL
I’m gonna hate to verse you guys on the New York Lingo lol I got you covered!! 🙌😉
Thanks BigPete! I'm going to count on you to help us out.
@@MrsMovies Yes of course!! 😂 We are getting a big snowstorm in NY tomorrow night into Saturday so I’m gonna be stuck in for some time LOL. I’ll message you guys!! 😎🍿
@@MrsMovies he told the FBI guy to get f*ucked in the *ss, though you probably got that from the context. Lol! Anything else? :)
35:54 Sopranos Writers: "you don't like this episode... wait until you get to the dream episodes... and the FBI planting the bug episode... and the cut to black"
hey man, no spoilers...
34:14 it's NOT an old folks home it's a RETIREMENT COMMUNITY
Anyone else get the feeling that these two hate each other? Is it just me?
I am sure it has been mentioned but the bakery scene is in reference to the scene in “Goodfellas” where Micheal Imperioli was shot in the foot by Joe Pesci.
- *THE GODFATHER (1972)* IS A MUST!! 🔥🔥🍿
Agree, they ought to do the trilogy as well as Scarface, Goodfellas and Casino etc
I believe they're doing the trilogy in March as it'll be the 50th anniversary of the first film.
This show is wasted on these two. Well, her more so than him.
The Christopher dream was hell. Within the context of the show, dreams are a connection to the afterlife and hell is described as personalized to the damned soul. Christopher hates mundanity and deli work is mundane as it gets for a guy like him.
The "You will have our sausages" line wasn't just a reference to the Imael line in the pilot. It was a warning from beyond the grave that Christopher is gonna go to hell when he dies. It might seem like awkward, dream logic, but it's actually pretty genius writing.
23:53 Whoa Chis it’s me Vito, you don’t know me now.
0:26 I think the word you were looking for is Mafioso. 👍
Watching this reaction gave me a god damn brain aneurysm.
24:33 Fun fact: Michael's character was shot in the foot in Goodfellas.
To answer your question: Schviadel is a shell-shaped pastry filled with a custard-like filling. The name "schviadel" is actually an Italian American dialect. The name of the pastry in proper Italian is sfogliatella, in English, they're sometimes called lobster tails. "Sfogliatella" actually means "small, thin leaf," as the pastry's texture resembles stacked leaves.
Italian, as a language, has a lot of dialects. In fact, there was no "proper" Italian language until something like the 19th Century. So most Italian American words are based on dialects and not proper Italian.
Sfogliatelle
Standard Italian is not inherently more "proper" in reality (only as part of an arbitrary social construct) nor is Napulitan' a dialect of the "Italian" language. Italian (Il Dolce Stil Novo) is one language and Napulitan' (and its various dialects, such as the antiquated ones used by characters in the show and in real life in this part of NJ) not to mention Sicilianu are their own languages.
What Italian-Americans speak is not "bases on" dialect either, it's actually dialect from 100-120 years ago that has been frozen in time, unaffected by the spread/influence of "Standard" Italian like the dialects in Italy have been.
@@AirBuddDwyer you're right, "proper" was the wrong word. Standard is more correct.
It might be a dialect that's 120 years old and frozen in time, but it's still based on a dialect. The age of the dialect doesn't effect that it's still a dialect.
@@jflaugher Pretty sure we're in agreement. "Based on" just sounded to me like you were saying they started with dialect and changed it into something that no longer qualified. The reality is (and people should realize this when they insinuate Italian-Americans "butcher" the language) that Italian-Americans would never change anything that was traditional ever for any reason (for better or for worse) unless they were dragged into it kicking and screaming
@@AirBuddDwyer LoL - yes, we're in agreement.
I know probably 4 Tony’s. One’s family calls him Anthony while we his friends call him Tony.
I’d say if you’re an Anthony, you maybe become a Tony when you’re a teenager or so, and your buddies start giving you nicknames, maybe it’s a way of separating your child self from coming of age self.
I’m John, my middle name is Paul, and I get called John, John Paul, or JP, and that’s been my whole life...
I'm not going to shallowly say it's a bad thing like many people would, but the fact that it's been several decades since they started putting a device in vending machines for snacks to prevent theft, but to this day as far as I know there's no such device for newspaper boxes really says something about people's priorities.
Well you can use multiple drinks or snacks and enjoy them everytime. Why would you need more than one copy of a newspaper? Like for what reason would you want to steal extra newspapers? They all say the same thing.
The "Albacore" line. He meant ALBATROSS, "Albatross around your neck" is a very old saying
Well..the clown was a "degenerate gambler." - David chase
My Grandpa is an Anthony Jr. as well. he goes by Tony now and has ever since I've been alive at least. I will be more than happy to ask him when he started going by Tony and get back to y'all.
I was born Anthony, but became Baby Tony immediately after. Drivers license says Anthony, still go by Tony 57 years later. But, heck, I'll answer to either. Love the reactions...Keep em coming.
I've been absolutely loving these Sopranos reactions, keep up the awesome work guys!
Omg I've watched the entire series twice and never noticed that they recast Angie Bomponsiero between seasons 1 and 2
Wait what??
I think in a situation like this, while you're at home, you're always Anthony when your father's named Tony. So you know who's being spoken to. You could go Tony jr, but that makes it sound even more like a child.
🤣 I hate technology too especially when it doesn't do what you wanted to do
The rules are your mom calls you Anthony, your dad calls you Anthony when hes angry, and your friends call you Tony until one day theres only people calling you Tony around
you're Anthony in Italy... they started calling them Tony in America because they put a sticker on their shirt that said TO: N.Y.
17:32 - (Inner Voice) "I fucking told you to never mention that again!"
17:38 - Denial Outer Voice covering it up.
When he said, "you're like an albacore around my neck" he obviously meant albatross. But like Tony, who said genetical in a previous scene, they often misuse words or make up their own because while they are street smart, they aren't well educated. And Christopher bought up all of those papers from that stand to give out to his friends. A stranger reading the name Christopher Moltisante wouldn't mean anything because they don't know him. Now he can brag to the guys he's notorious. It's what's been driving Chris. Remember when clipped the Czech guy Emile, he thought that hit would elevate his status, and it didn't, which led to the case of cowboyitis. He wanted to be a known guy. Christopher is not a made man yet. He is just an associate. He wants the opportunity to move up the ladder so he can get made.
The redhead is Paula from season 6 of the walking dead. She captures carol and Maggie after Rick and the gang take out the saviors at the satellite station.
I’m so glad you guys are reacting to this! Arguably the best TV series of all time and not enough reactors do this for some reason 🤯
Nancy Marchand, the lady who plays Tony's mother, just before this series played Mrs. Pynchon the elegant owner of the paper in the drama series Lou Grant.
Loosening the lugnuts when the cars jacked is dangerous - you can rock the car of the jack. If you think in those terms it's easy to remember.
'Et oh, Mrs. Yooz tried any Gabagool yet?
Ha. The Gym teacher is the Trivago guy. But much younger.
You guys need to react to Goodfellas
Hi guys. Love your reactions. Just wondering who is in the framed picture on the wall behind you ?
The joke about the Zepruder film of the salad bar was to say the salad bar was shot dead because the Zepruder film showed Kennedy's assassination.
David Chase is a great TV writer, not a great movie writer. TV lends itself to character building, world building, structure, continuity, but he was one of the first TV writers to have that established continuity, the world building.
The stand up comic is just there, he's not important. It reminds me of Twin Peaks, which came a few years before.
Chase hates that he's not a movie writer, and doesn't realize he's fantastic at a series. He headed the greatest television series ever written, his movies flopped. After he dies, people are going to watch The Sopranos in awe at how such a series could exist, and they will ignore his movies on Netflix.
Well, not every brilliant writer can be versatile. TV is different from film. Prose books are different graphic novels/comic books/manga. Stageplays are different from poetry( Chase's first movie as a writer was a B-horror film called "Grave Of The Vampire", BTW). I understand his frustration because he worked in broadcast TV since the 70s when it was just three major networks (HBO was around, but didn't have original scripted programming) and the rules was pretty strict. Go watch "The Rockford Files", which he wrote and produced during the second to sixth seasons. Great stuff. Some of the dayplayers on "Rockford" have appeared on "Sopranos", like Richard Romanus, who played Dr. Melfi's ex-husband.
@@Madbandit77 It's on my list. I'm glad somebody who has some brains replied to me, for once. I was just in the heat of the moment, excited that two decent persons were watching my favorite show, and It's been about four years since my last rewatch so I'm all passionate about it.
Rockford Files have been on my list, but if you're recommending it, I think I have to bump it up
Just noticed Anthony Jr., wearing a Spawn t-shirt. nice easter egg.
32:15
john cabot was italian. his real name was giovanni something
According some exMafioso one of the unrealistic things is the psychiatrist. According to him was if someone like Tony went to a psychiatrist and his associates found out, both he and the psychiatrist would be in the trunk of a car the same day.
Except that there have been actual cases with mobsters seeing psychiatrists.
Incase you didn't see the last 23 straight comments about the reference to Goodfellas and the infamous foot injury. I too... will now tell you the great reference, that so many have spoiled for you.
Christopher is played by Michael Imperioli. This guy was a small character in a very well put together mob movie. The small character played by Michael is named Spider, based on the real life Michael Gianco. The real Henry Hill said everything in Imperioli's two scenes happened allegedly, kinda hard to take that degenerates word for it. The second scene after the foot injury I will not get into detail.
I hope you guys do Devil's Advocate. Also, in a smart move, Chrissy actually fucks up the story so he ends up NOT spoiling it.
That's one of my favorites.
Great reaction. Livia Soprano mother of the year. I love Canolis they're the best. You definitely have to watch Godfather and Devil's Advocate.
A lot of the time in the Sopranos they're speaking Neapolitan rather than Standard Italian, that's why the Italian words seem odd
sfogliatelle are not croissants, they're pretty different in shape, texture and flavour. They're filled with ricotta cheese and have powder sugar on top. It's a typical neapolitan pastry and comes in two shapes: riccia or frolla (second one is my favourite). Also, the way they're pronounciating the pastry's name comes from neapolitan dialect, which usually calls them "sfugliatell"
God, you guys do not understand episode 8. All world building. Great writing.
I think this show may be a little too intellectually challenging for this woman. You also need to have at least some cultural and historical awareness to “get” what the show’s commenting on. She’s not going to enjoy any of it.
There is a guy in the comments who wrote this:
"There are no light weights on the writing team of the Sopranos. This episode plays on Tennessee Williams, on Hamlet and themes of cultural pressures, the upper middle class elevating their black sheep, but simultaneously despises them. It's brilliant writing"-beanie man
He was able to defend the writing in this episode without pretentiously diminishing her intellect. Not every person has the same cultural and historical awareness, she may well know plenty that you or I don't. She is a smart woman; she is making money of people watching her watch tv.
@@bluebird3281 She derives no insight and makes no connections (or at least never expresses any vocally- which is odd for someone who’s making “commentary”). This will only get worse for her as the show becomes less driven by the narrative and more contemplative and metaphorical. So I stand by what I said. If that “diminishes” her, I guess that’s just too bad. She shouldn’t do something that opens her to criticism from the public.
If she or the cowboy can’t even pick up on theme (in this case the personal history and the ancestral history of people and how they manifest in the present) then this show is just gonna fly right over their heads. Just like it did for the original audience who bitched that there wasn’t enough “mob stuff”, which the show directly addressed in later seasons by becoming even more philosophical.
He Devil's Advocate is a fantastic piece of film.
Thankfully they're getting the wrong spoiler, that isn't what happened. 😆
Spoiler alert?
People who go from Breaking Bad to The Sopranos have a hard time justifying ''pointless'' scenes. Remember that this is a straight up family drama, which happens to involve the mafia. Whereas Breaking Bad is more of a crime drama, which happens to involve some family stuff.
13:45 - I'm sure he meant 'albatross'
17:35 I hope you took notice of that look, man.
Any more comments like that will guarantee you a smothering.
There are some things we just aren't supposed to mention in public 😁😂
Are you two from Odd, W.Virginia? You kinda give me that vibe
Albacore was a malaprop. Supposed to be albatross. A literary reference indicating a great burden.