@@ironartur I did not know that and I did not mean any disrespect but I guess the part about not being able to buy it went over my head ..there are kits out there to build it so wouldn't it be cost effective to go that route rather than source all the parts individually? I know these days most 3D printers only require a few bolts to put together but my first printer came in a box full of parts that took a day to put together and weeks worth of tuning to get it to print right.
@@geterdnboy Actually they don´t recommend the kits because you don´t know what are you getting on those kits, one week they came with ok motors and the next week with no-brand motors, or crappy SSR or unusable plate....
@@geterdnboy no disrespect taken and yes, technically you can buy a kit. But as they aren’t official you’re kind of rolling the dice on those. It’s still slightly cheaper than individually sourcing parts, but you’ll end up replacing some parts during the build so it’s a wash.
With how critical squareness is to building a 3d printer, and especially one of these, I wonder why right angle gussets with holes for machine screws into T nuts aren't far more prevalent. Just put everything together with maybe a 1/4 turn of slop, start going around and gently tightening everything, and watch it self align to within a few milliradians. As long as the frame members' lengths are accurate you'll be golden.
Thank you for the excellent presentation. Your patience and attention to detail is refreshing compared to hosts of some other VORON build channels. Hope you don’t mind several comments. I have a VORON 2.4 frame in transit from Printed Solid in the US. They are a reputable VORON parts supplier recognized in the VORON community. [Note: Join the VORON Discord channel before deciding to build a VORON. You should be an experienced builder.] Unless you have good machinist stills and proper tools such as this host, I do not recommend drilling and tapping your frame, or cutting from stock extrusion. Instead buy a frame pre-cut, drilled and tapped. Don’t feel you have to buy Misumi frame extrusion directly from them. There are complete frame kits available in a variety of colors from several other respectable companies, like LDO. Do try and stay away from some Aliexpress frames and complete kits where the extrusions might not meet spec with poor machining. Always make sure each extrusion is flat and straight irrespective of the source. Some are not. Square Alignment. You're the first VORON frame builder focusing on the critical need to align and square the frame; even from noted experienced VORON builders. Errors in alignment of components, and sub-assemblies are cumulative. That is, the sum of the errors of all the assemblies makes it near to impossible to troubleshoot problems later. Square. Be meticulous. Square, relax, and come back later to square again until as precise as possible. No rush. This is the baseline alignment for your complete build. Rather than using a carpenters square, it's best to use a heavy machinist square built to industry “accuracy” specification working with metal, along with good clamps. Carpenter and other squares used for construction and DIY do not guarantee accuracy to this level and could be slightly off. There are videos on RUclips teaching you how to square your square because it's such an issue. Better yet, just buy one as part of your project build budget. Don’t skimp. As noted, assemble on as perfectly of a flat surface you can find, such as a kitchen counter top. I found out on previous frame builds that even using a sheet of 3/4” plywood does not guarantee accuracy, or even a random table top. It's more difficult to find a reliably accurate flat surface in your home than you would expect. If you've never built a 3DP from parts before with limited instructions and advice form hobbyists who are not experts, do not build a VORON. There are no approved build kits. Instead begin with a PRUSA MK3 where you get superb instructions and EXPERTS are there to help you. Experience assembling Chinese printers out of the box does not quality you. Finally. For those who entered 3DP from the world of the Chinese printer community with little exposure outside of these printers and their RUclips user channels, please research and study the history and philosophy of the 3DP RepRap and open source movement for which you're moving into if deciding to build a VORON. It's great and helpful background.
good video. Is it normal for the frame to have a slight baby wobble? When I have it on my table a certain way it wobbles slightly but I have not been able to get it more perfect than this after spending HOURS trying to, just wondering if this is normal
I have always checked for the squareness on the inside of my build..... I don't have the best way to cut my extruded rails so if my cut is not totally square then it will mess up the inside.... have you checked the squareness on the inside of this or just the evenness on the outside. I haven't cut my extruded rails yet that's why I ask because the way you show it now has me confused. I'm starting this build as well and would like to follow along with you. Also, I ordered the 2020 extrusions and the 3030 enough to build the printer which one do you think I should use? When I started planing this build I started down the path of the HevORT guy and it looked like he was using 3030's so that's what I ordered but then further into my research I found the Voron 2.4 and fell in love with the build guide LOL. That's why I'm in this mess now.
If I'm working on a flat table, I would use the table to get all the pieces square and flush. IOW, I'd work on the bottom instead of the top like you did..
Might wanna look into the ender 3 series you can get pro that has less upgrading to do or older versions upgrade it yourself im trying to get into it doing research frankly built is a good channel to check out about them
@@jrh2023 Thanks, but I have a (cheap) printer already and spend more time upgrading it than I do actually printing stuff with it. I'm looking for a from-scratch build. I wondered why the Voron was a bad choice for newbies, and what DIY build overcomes that barrier.
I think it has to do with comfort level. If you are not comfortable doing a build from scratch, then no DIY build is appropriate for you. Now, if you are an electrical engineer, you have only being printing for a month, but you think you would like to tackle a diy build, then by all means, have at it.
@@Gorf1234 It all depend on your personality. I had 0 experience in 3D printer, in fact I didn't know the difference btw extruder and extrusion. But I,m patient and went on the Voron discors channel and asked question when I was stuck. Unless you are a quiter just build it it't fun and rewarding
@@Gorf1234 might i link to this ruclips.net/video/6Dp6hf1aKhA/видео.html. ooh and some youtubers don't like links to other accounts in their comments so i'll edit it if need be
@@TheFirstLayer I was worried with how long ago this video was posted but as long as it's not because you lost interest I'll sub in anticipation of the next parts.
There are variants of hypercube designs which can't be bought either -- kits for these community projects are available, but fyi, I built/designed a quad independent extruder 600mm cubed box monster -- can't buy that either, a 6' delta with a flying extruder and a high flow mosquito nozzle, and no it's not for sale either. Good to see vorons becoming more popular though
The drilling and the tapping may be "boring" but super important to a proper build! Everyone is not experiencing at either drilling or tapping!
“The only printer you can’t buy”. That’s genius.
You can get it on AliExpress
@@geterdnboy i hope you know that you are answering to the creator of the Voron..... i think he knows whats he is talking about.
@@ironartur I did not know that and I did not mean any disrespect but I guess the part about not being able to buy it went over my head ..there are kits out there to build it so wouldn't it be cost effective to go that route rather than source all the parts individually? I know these days most 3D printers only require a few bolts to put together but my first printer came in a box full of parts that took a day to put together and weeks worth of tuning to get it to print right.
@@geterdnboy Actually they don´t recommend the kits because you don´t know what are you getting on those kits, one week they came with ok motors and the next week with no-brand motors, or crappy SSR or unusable plate....
@@geterdnboy no disrespect taken and yes, technically you can buy a kit. But as they aren’t official you’re kind of rolling the dice on those. It’s still slightly cheaper than individually sourcing parts, but you’ll end up replacing some parts during the build so it’s a wash.
With how critical squareness is to building a 3d printer, and especially one of these, I wonder why right angle gussets with holes for machine screws into T nuts aren't far more prevalent. Just put everything together with maybe a 1/4 turn of slop, start going around and gently tightening everything, and watch it self align to within a few milliradians. As long as the frame members' lengths are accurate you'll be golden.
Please cover in detail the CoreXY belts and pulleys. That is an area I still can't figure out how and why it works. Thanks.
You got it
How is it going? Tried looking for the next video without success. Did you give up on it?
My kit's on its way and I watched your videos a couple times. Great content! Subscribed.
I can't find second part. It's available?
I was just about to ask that very question since this video is now 4 months old..
Thank you for the excellent presentation. Your patience and attention to detail is refreshing compared to hosts of some other VORON build channels.
Hope you don’t mind several comments. I have a VORON 2.4 frame in transit from Printed Solid in the US. They are a reputable VORON parts supplier recognized in the VORON community.
[Note: Join the VORON Discord channel before deciding to build a VORON. You should be an experienced builder.]
Unless you have good machinist stills and proper tools such as this host, I do not recommend drilling and tapping your frame, or cutting from stock extrusion. Instead buy a frame pre-cut, drilled and tapped.
Don’t feel you have to buy Misumi frame extrusion directly from them. There are complete frame kits available in a variety of colors from several other respectable companies, like LDO. Do try and stay away from some Aliexpress frames and complete kits where the extrusions might not meet spec with poor machining. Always make sure each extrusion is flat and straight irrespective of the source. Some are not.
Square Alignment. You're the first VORON frame builder focusing on the critical need to align and square the frame; even from noted experienced VORON builders.
Errors in alignment of components, and sub-assemblies are cumulative. That is, the sum of the errors of all the assemblies makes it near to impossible to troubleshoot problems later.
Square. Be meticulous. Square, relax, and come back later to square again until as precise as possible. No rush. This is the baseline alignment for your complete build.
Rather than using a carpenters square, it's best to use a heavy machinist square built to industry “accuracy” specification working with metal, along with good clamps. Carpenter and other squares used for construction and DIY do not guarantee accuracy to this level and could be slightly off. There are videos on RUclips teaching you how to square your square because it's such an issue. Better yet, just buy one as part of your project build budget. Don’t skimp.
As noted, assemble on as perfectly of a flat surface you can find, such as a kitchen counter top. I found out on previous frame builds that even using a sheet of 3/4” plywood does not guarantee accuracy, or even a random table top. It's more difficult to find a reliably accurate flat surface in your home than you would expect.
If you've never built a 3DP from parts before with limited instructions and advice form hobbyists who are not experts, do not build a VORON. There are no approved build kits. Instead begin with a PRUSA MK3 where you get superb instructions and EXPERTS are there to help you. Experience assembling Chinese printers out of the box does not quality you.
Finally. For those who entered 3DP from the world of the Chinese printer community with little exposure outside of these printers and their RUclips user channels, please research and study the history and philosophy of the 3DP RepRap and open source movement for which you're moving into if deciding to build a VORON. It's great and helpful background.
Great stuff Richard! Looking forward to this build!
Thanks 👍
this exciting lol Voron catching on like crazy
You ever finish this build?
Is there a part 2?
Great video, but the drilling and tapping would be important to cover for new people. Warts and all, etc
good video. Is it normal for the frame to have a slight baby wobble? When I have it on my table a certain way it wobbles slightly but I have not been able to get it more perfect than this after spending HOURS trying to, just wondering if this is normal
I have always checked for the squareness on the inside of my build..... I don't have the best way to cut my extruded rails so if my cut is not totally square then it will mess up the inside.... have you checked the squareness on the inside of this or just the evenness on the outside. I haven't cut my extruded rails yet that's why I ask because the way you show it now has me confused. I'm starting this build as well and would like to follow along with you. Also, I ordered the 2020 extrusions and the 3030 enough to build the printer which one do you think I should use? When I started planing this build I started down the path of the HevORT guy and it looked like he was using 3030's so that's what I ordered but then further into my research I found the Voron 2.4 and fell in love with the build guide LOL. That's why I'm in this mess now.
I do the same. Don't care what the outside looks like.
Voron for the win!
If I'm working on a flat table, I would use the table to get all the pieces square and flush. IOW, I'd work on the bottom instead of the top like you did..
They stopped at the frame and never uploaded any more, does that mean the voron is kaputz?
Where did you get the parts? I'm looking for a complete or almost complete kit. Thanks
I have been using the suggested venders in the sourcing guide. vorondesign.com/sourcing_guide?model=V2.4
Check Aliexpress they have kits it keeps you from.sourcing a bunch of different parts
Ali express has the entire kit. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002225382294.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5cac4c4dGFs2cc
Are you going to upload more?
and links for item you use in this build?
What is the cost for the frame.
how do you order parts to make this 3d printer??
How much does a build cost?
why cant you buy it?
What the heck. I watch this thinking I’m going to watch the whole series and there’s nothing more???
im sad
If this printer is not best for a newbie to building a 3D printer, which one is?
Might wanna look into the ender 3 series you can get pro that has less upgrading to do or older versions upgrade it yourself im trying to get into it doing research frankly built is a good channel to check out about them
@@jrh2023 Thanks, but I have a (cheap) printer already and spend more time upgrading it than I do actually printing stuff with it. I'm looking for a from-scratch build. I wondered why the Voron was a bad choice for newbies, and what DIY build overcomes that barrier.
I think it has to do with comfort level. If you are not comfortable doing a build from scratch, then no DIY build is appropriate for you. Now, if you are an electrical engineer, you have only being printing for a month, but you think you would like to tackle a diy build, then by all means, have at it.
@@Gorf1234 It all depend on your personality. I had 0 experience in 3D printer, in fact I didn't know the difference btw extruder and extrusion. But I,m patient and went on the Voron discors channel and asked question when I was stuck.
Unless you are a quiter just build it it't fun and rewarding
@@Gorf1234 might i link to this ruclips.net/video/6Dp6hf1aKhA/видео.html.
ooh and some youtubers don't like links to other accounts in their comments so i'll edit it if need be
last video on Voron was 3 weeks ago and no update...
It's in the works! We had a major delay on parts, which prevented us from doing Part 2. Apologies for the delay in responding.
@@TheFirstLayer I was worried with how long ago this video was posted but as long as it's not because you lost interest I'll sub in anticipation of the next parts.
Please please do the rest of the build with as much detail as part 1! Thanks
Step 2: draw the rest of the owl.
at 16:45 you said the last 3 extrusions are for Y and Z axis. as nothing to do with Z axis
There are variants of hypercube designs which can't be bought either -- kits for these community projects are available, but fyi, I built/designed a quad independent extruder 600mm cubed box monster -- can't buy that either, a 6' delta with a flying extruder and a high flow mosquito nozzle, and no it's not for sale either. Good to see vorons becoming more popular though