I love both colors but I think I prefer Rare Green Earth as well. I feel like the Terre Verte shows its two pigments in the way it dries sometimes and I don't find the resulting effect always pretty. Thank you so much for comparing these two! :D
I think my biggest problem is that I now want both of these! lol! I've toiled over purchasing these colors but eventually decided against. It's just they are both so great. oh my! Thank you for sharing these with us, Oto Kano! Well done! :)
I like the Terre Verte because of its tendency to separate into its component colors. It looks like it would work as a nice glazing color; so, that's probably how I would use it. The fact that it can produce awesome cauliflowers is a bonus for landscape work.
I'm really surprised at how beautiful those subtle mixes are with both of them! I already have rare green earth, but I haven't been using it. It will be perfect for florals!!
Rare Green Earth is the one for me as it is useful for dark tone with a hint of green in your painting, both have a very low pigment yield so it makes it easy to lift, in saying this the DS terra verte is the strongest I have ever seen in this colour type. thanks for the info.
Thank you for this informative video. I don’t reach for either of these colors generally but I love the color mixes you have demonstrated for Green Earth in particular. I’m excited to try some of the color blends with the Green Earth pigment!
It would be interesting if you did a comparison to all Terre Vert through Schmincke, DS, Winsor and Newton, Holbein etc to see which brand is the smoothest and which cauliflower's the most.
I have verona green earth in Kremer and Terre Verte in W&N, they show a bigger colour difference than the DS colours in your comparison. I am off now to see if the W&N also is a colour mix. I love the gentle pastel range of both of these colours and can see uses for them, and I like the term you used, mother colour. First time I heard that used. Many thanks.
Hi Oto, my two colours fall on either side of yours, the WN Terre Verte is greener and the Verona more yellow brown. I have two colours that fall inbetween three chromium oxides, and a cobalt green. I know loads of people hate Chromium oxide as being ugly and horridly opaque but very dilute it is very transparent and definitely gives the WN terre verte a run for its money, it is far smoother. The WN version is very hard and so much easier to control in a fine wash. The cobalt green is pretty transparent anyway. I did not have the same lifting problems as you, I was using Strathmore ATC's to test on. I still absolutely love the Verona green earth, put any warm dark such as burnt umber or even cool darks like paynes grey on one side of it, and on the other use ANY red right through from orange red to the sharpest of purple magenta and it reads as a soft and lovely green. Its all relative! I am tentatively thinking of seeing how a handmade mix of green earth with a hint of C. oxide would compare to the commercial terre verte mixes, just to shift the values slightly towards a more obvious green for using with cooler colours and for convenience as it is so easy to overload the CO. I am still waiting impatiently for pigment to arrive.... If you want to take this idea and let it fly please name it Kano green! If no one has got there first, which is quite a possibility.... I went down some green byroads with this and learned that I really really don't like pthalo green....
I don't like Phthalo green much either, which is weird because I love Phthalo Blue and Phthalo Turquoise. Your journey into the green earths seems so much fun, please keep me updated on how your paint making goes :D
In my pallete of about 90 half pans I just dab into them when I want a similar color. :) No real science to it, I know they are both granulating in that section, so I know when I'm getting :)
Oooh love this video 😍 The mixes are right up my alley, love the softness and texture. I've been looking for a good Green Earth for months now. Just got Winsor & Newton one and didn't even consider Daniel Smith so thank you! Do you have any experience in their rewettability? Do they rewet alright after being dry on the palette? That's my main concern 👀
Most DS colors are really good for rewetting. There are one or two you need to watch out for though. Potter's Pink is notorious for being hard to rewet. So far, the colors I've covered in this series (both season 1 & 2) have been great for rewetability.
Will keep in mind. Yes, Potters Pink is a headache. However I've tried Schmincke version and it is magical. In terms of both rewettability and intensity 😊 Thanks! And out of these two, Rare Green Earth would be my pick. Looks perfectly mute and granulated 👀
Wow I would never have chosen either on their own, but they make beautiful soft mixes. I think I would go with the Rare Green Earth. I love the greens the Terre verte makes but the top two lines of the Rare Green Earth hook me in :)
I think Jackson's website might have a typo on the pigment info for Rare Green Earth. My tube has it listed as a single pigment paint made from PG23 not from a mixture of iron oxides. Did DS change the formula recently? Mine is about 2 yrs old.
Thank you for the info! I took my info from Daniel Smith's website danielsmith.com/rare-green-earth-15ml-tube-daniel-smith-extra-fine-watercolor/ However, this is not the first time they put different information on their website. Thank you :)
Wooww, that lift is crazy! I really love the hue of Terre Verte but not sure I could handle something so non-staining with the way I work. Maybe in glazes?
Oto Kano Yes! I do so many layers I'd worry they'd vanish or just make things muddy. It also feels like a colour you could easily get by mixing, and have it be more staining?
Me too, I do so many layers and yes I am worried about the same thing. I would suggest this more for people who are looking to put together a soft color palette. It would just disappear in our strong, vibrant staining palette!
Am so addicted to your vids. Thank you for your valuable info. Where do you get your paper with the printed info that each page that can be used to swatch. Do I have to make each individual paper and have it reproduced at a printer or does someone sell these swatching papers. Have a very happy holiday season!
Wow! This one really surprised me. I by far prefer the hue of the terre verte and assumed I would prefer that one overall, but in every other regard I prefer the rare green earth. I don't use either but the RGE looks familiar. Do you have Zoisite Genuine? RGE looks smilar to me (on camera at least) and I'd love to hear your thoughts on those two!
ohhh now that would be a good comparison... Unfortunately, I don't have Zoisite Genuine. Looking at their color chart though, you are right they look very similar.
Oto Kano I have the opossite haha! Someone sent me a half pan of the Zoisite but I don't think I have the greeth earth. One day when I get to go to the DS store :)
I purchased the Terre Verte as it was called for in a floral tutorial book. I can see the use of this color in painting florals as the mixes are very pale colors. I purchased Winsor and Newton Terre Verte and it is so light it is barely there. I would not purchase this color from W/N. Daniel Smith's color is much brighter than W/N. What are your thoughts on Winsor and Newton paints? They seem to me that they overpriced and poorly pigmented than Daniel Smith paints.
depends on the color. i have a ton of WN that are just great. right at the same level with DS and Schmincke. They are all good, but some pigments are better than others in certain brands. like WN Perylene Maroon is amazing, probably my favorite versatile paint from them. but their pthalo blues and greens are especially nice tones and super intense pigmentation also. (on the DS dotcard, cobalt teal was the sh*ttiest low saturation color i've ever tried. WEAK. so yeah, just depends. there are a few other DS that are pretty weak, as you'll see from other vids on this channel.)
Once again a great Video, thank you Oto! I noticed for the first time that you make your Ultramarine yourself - souch a beautiful, vibrant color! Would you mind showing us how you do it and which supplies are needed for mixing ones own colours?
I wanted to comment when I had my sample sheet here but it's taking a life to come :_: I like Terre Verte more but I'm also concerned on how it easily lifts. Rare green earth looks so beautiful in Arches, perhaps it's the creamy tone of the paper that makes the color look more appealing than in pure white to me.
I’m using PG17 that’s called Terre Vert by other brands, and having chunks of pigment floating on my palette makes me laugh a bit. I’m using it now for the silver-green of poppy leaves, and I’m negative painting them, to get a dark green leafy-looking background. For as granular as it is, it handles easily in the nooks and crannies of those darn feathery poppy leaves, and it’s glazing just fine - I’m on my third layer and no trouble. Rewetting is the most annoying part, in my experience.
I would go for Rare Green Earth. Thank you so much for all of the time you have spent making these videos. They are very educational and interesting.
I'd love to see this redone with Rare Green Earth vs Zoisite Genuine vs Perylene Green
I loved learning the history of rare green earth. It was also my favorite of the two.
I love both colors but I think I prefer Rare Green Earth as well. I feel like the Terre Verte shows its two pigments in the way it dries sometimes and I don't find the resulting effect always pretty. Thank you so much for comparing these two! :D
such a good point about the two pigments showing some times! Thank you so much for suggesting this very interesting comparison.
I think my biggest problem is that I now want both of these! lol! I've toiled over purchasing these colors but eventually decided against. It's just they are both so great. oh my! Thank you for sharing these with us, Oto Kano! Well done! :)
you are so welcome Mark :) Thank you so much for watching it. Which do you think you'll go for?
I feel your pain!
I love these color showdowns! I've been watching them to catch up. You really do a lot of research on the pigments.
So glad you are enjoying this series :D Thank you so much for watching them :D
I love the mixed colours these two greens create. Beautiful. May I add that your voice is very soothing and very pleasant to listen to ❣️
Aw thank you so much Sachie, that's so kind of you :)
I can see myself using both colors. I like the moodiness of the Rare Earth and the brightness of Terre Verte.
Thanks. Great to have options for soft greens!
I like the Terre Verte because of its tendency to separate into its component colors. It looks like it would work as a nice glazing color; so, that's probably how I would use it. The fact that it can produce awesome cauliflowers is a bonus for landscape work.
That's great that you are comfortable with cauliflowers, they had such a great texture.
Love your approach to comparing these colors.
Love this comparison. :D I've just purchased a Schmincke Green Earth and I really love its softness. Very good colour for mixing skin colour. :D
I'm really surprised at how beautiful those subtle mixes are with both of them! I already have rare green earth, but I haven't been using it. It will be perfect for florals!!
They're both so pretty! Your videos are really tempting me to buy some paint tubes.
yeesssss more tubes = more fun :D Which ones are you thinking of going for?
Oto Kano maybe something iridescent
I love your videos! So helpful.
Love these videos! You save me a ton of money! Thanks for such great, relevant information💸💰🤑😃
So glad that the videos save you money! :D
OO I like this one, it's one of the things I often ponder when looking on Kremer, they have so so many green earths.
yeah they are all so close and really hard to tell when they are in the powder form too.
Thank you! I now know which of these greens I want on my palette; Rare Green Earth for me.
I much prefer Rare Green Earth for mixes! 😀
Rare Green Earth is the one for me as it is useful for dark tone with a hint of green in your painting, both have a very low pigment yield so it makes it easy to lift, in saying this the DS terra verte is the strongest I have ever seen in this colour type. thanks for the info.
So glad you like the Rare Green Earth :) Thank you for watching Ian :)
Another fabulace showdown!!! Thanks so much. I do like the muted color mixes from the terre verte :)
You are so welcome Colleen, thank you for watching :D
Thank you for this informative video. I don’t reach for either of these colors generally but I love the color mixes you have demonstrated for Green Earth in particular.
I’m excited to try some of the color blends with the Green Earth pigment!
they do both make great mother colors. Hope you have fun with them.
OMG! I just love this series SO MUCH!!!!!!!
So glad you like it :D Means so much to me!
It would be interesting if you did a comparison to all Terre Vert through Schmincke, DS, Winsor and Newton, Holbein etc to see which brand is the smoothest and which cauliflower's the most.
I have verona green earth in Kremer and Terre Verte in W&N, they show a bigger colour difference than the DS colours in your comparison. I am off now to see if the W&N also is a colour mix.
I love the gentle pastel range of both of these colours and can see uses for them, and I like the term you used, mother colour. First time I heard that used. Many thanks.
They both make such beautiful mother colors ❤️How did your test go?
Hi Oto, my two colours fall on either side of yours, the WN Terre Verte is greener and the Verona more yellow brown. I have two colours that fall inbetween three chromium oxides, and a cobalt green. I know loads of people hate Chromium oxide as being ugly and horridly opaque but very dilute it is very transparent and definitely gives the WN terre verte a run for its money, it is far smoother. The WN version is very hard and so much easier to control in a fine wash. The cobalt green is pretty transparent anyway. I did not have the same lifting problems as you, I was using Strathmore ATC's to test on.
I still absolutely love the Verona green earth, put any warm dark such as burnt umber or even cool darks like paynes grey on one side of it, and on the other use ANY red right through from orange red to the sharpest of purple magenta and it reads as a soft and lovely green. Its all relative!
I am tentatively thinking of seeing how a handmade mix of green earth with a hint of C. oxide would compare to the commercial terre verte mixes, just to shift the values slightly towards a more obvious green for using with cooler colours and for convenience as it is so easy to overload the CO. I am still waiting impatiently for pigment to arrive....
If you want to take this idea and let it fly please name it Kano green! If no one has got there first, which is quite a possibility.... I went down some green byroads with this and learned that I really really don't like pthalo green....
I don't like Phthalo green much either, which is weird because I love Phthalo Blue and Phthalo Turquoise.
Your journey into the green earths seems so much fun, please keep me updated on how your paint making goes :D
Two very beautiful colors that both have a spot in my heart. I use them both! :)
That's awesome! How do you differentiate between the two?
In my pallete of about 90 half pans I just dab into them when I want a similar color. :) No real science to it, I know they are both granulating in that section, so I know when I'm getting :)
That's a great approach, thank you for letting me know :)
Rare green earth is my pick. This is a great series, tfs
So glad you are enjoying the series :D Thank you for watching!
Oooh love this video 😍 The mixes are right up my alley, love the softness and texture. I've been looking for a good Green Earth for months now. Just got Winsor & Newton one and didn't even consider Daniel Smith so thank you! Do you have any experience in their rewettability? Do they rewet alright after being dry on the palette? That's my main concern 👀
Most DS colors are really good for rewetting. There are one or two you need to watch out for though. Potter's Pink is notorious for being hard to rewet. So far, the colors I've covered in this series (both season 1 & 2) have been great for rewetability.
Will keep in mind. Yes, Potters Pink is a headache. However I've tried Schmincke version and it is magical. In terms of both rewettability and intensity 😊 Thanks! And out of these two, Rare Green Earth would be my pick. Looks perfectly mute and granulated 👀
woooo really? Woooo now I am super tempted to try Schmincke's one. Thank you!
I subscribed in 2021 because of this series.
Wow I would never have chosen either on their own, but they make beautiful soft mixes. I think I would go with the Rare Green Earth. I love the greens the Terre verte makes but the top two lines of the Rare Green Earth hook me in :)
They do make such beautiful mixing colors. I am the same with you. Wouldn't have gone for these colors on their own, but as mixing colors, wow.
Oh man another watercolor on my wishlist (rare green earth)
I think Jackson's website might have
a typo on the pigment info for Rare Green Earth. My tube has it listed as a single pigment paint made from PG23 not from a mixture of iron oxides. Did DS change the formula recently? Mine is about 2 yrs old.
Thank you for the info! I took my info from Daniel Smith's website danielsmith.com/rare-green-earth-15ml-tube-daniel-smith-extra-fine-watercolor/ However, this is not the first time they put different information on their website. Thank you :)
Oto Kano They obviously do that to punish people like me who rely on pigment numbers for choosing colors. Lol 😅😅😅
and me!!! 😅
Wooww, that lift is crazy! I really love the hue of Terre Verte but not sure I could handle something so non-staining with the way I work. Maybe in glazes?
I know exactly what you mean! I use high staining strong colors, so I worry that if I tried using these in my paintings they'd just get lost...
Oto Kano Yes! I do so many layers I'd worry they'd vanish or just make things muddy. It also feels like a colour you could easily get by mixing, and have it be more staining?
Me too, I do so many layers and yes I am worried about the same thing. I would suggest this more for people who are looking to put together a soft color palette. It would just disappear in our strong, vibrant staining palette!
Oto Kano What are these "soft colours" you speak of? 😉
Bwaha ha ha well they're not in my palette....
Am so addicted to your vids. Thank you for your valuable info. Where do you get your paper with the printed info that each page that can be used to swatch. Do I have to make each individual paper and have it reproduced at a printer or does someone sell these swatching papers. Have a very happy holiday season!
Wow! This one really surprised me. I by far prefer the hue of the terre verte and assumed I would prefer that one overall, but in every other regard I prefer the rare green earth. I don't use either but the RGE looks familiar. Do you have Zoisite Genuine? RGE looks smilar to me (on camera at least) and I'd love to hear your thoughts on those two!
ohhh now that would be a good comparison... Unfortunately, I don't have Zoisite Genuine. Looking at their color chart though, you are right they look very similar.
Oto Kano I have the opossite haha! Someone sent me a half pan of the Zoisite but I don't think I have the greeth earth. One day when I get to go to the DS store :)
Can I come with you???
I purchased the Terre Verte as it was called for in a floral tutorial book. I can see the use of this color in painting florals as the mixes are very pale colors. I purchased Winsor and Newton Terre Verte and it is so light it is barely there. I would not purchase this color from W/N. Daniel Smith's color is much brighter than W/N. What are your thoughts on Winsor and Newton paints? They seem to me that they overpriced and poorly pigmented than Daniel Smith paints.
depends on the color. i have a ton of WN that are just great. right at the same level with DS and Schmincke. They are all good, but some pigments are better than others in certain brands. like WN Perylene Maroon is amazing, probably my favorite versatile paint from them. but their pthalo blues and greens are especially nice tones and super intense pigmentation also. (on the DS dotcard, cobalt teal was the sh*ttiest low saturation color i've ever tried. WEAK. so yeah, just depends. there are a few other DS that are pretty weak, as you'll see from other vids on this channel.)
Once again a great Video, thank you Oto! I noticed for the first time that you make your Ultramarine yourself - souch a beautiful, vibrant color! Would you mind showing us how you do it and which supplies are needed for mixing ones own colours?
I've made a video on the supplies you'll need for paint making here: ruclips.net/video/WIdVblDIRWM/видео.html
I wanted to comment when I had my sample sheet here but it's taking a life to come :_: I like Terre Verte more but I'm also concerned on how it easily lifts. Rare green earth looks so beautiful in Arches, perhaps it's the creamy tone of the paper that makes the color look more appealing than in pure white to me.
wooo I bet the creamy tone is great for giving the Rare Green Earth color more body. How lovely :)
PG23 for me whenever it comes to calling something green earth or terre verte 😁
I’m using PG17 that’s called Terre Vert by other brands, and having chunks of pigment floating on my palette makes me laugh a bit. I’m using it now for the silver-green of poppy leaves, and I’m negative painting them, to get a dark green leafy-looking background. For as granular as it is, it handles easily in the nooks and crannies of those darn feathery poppy leaves, and it’s glazing just fine - I’m on my third layer and no trouble. Rewetting is the most annoying part, in my experience.
Rare Green Earth!
If you are into historical colors, pg23 rare green earth is the way to go, but you can get a cheper pg23 from rembrandt (royal talens)
I think I prefer the Rare Green Earth.
Good choice Heidi :)
Terre Vertebrate the colour of Eucalyptus leaves.
Terre Vert looks like Cascade Green.
Am I the only one that thinks in terms of hue the rare green earth looks like a watered down perylene green?
i was thinking the same and i don't understand why isn't everybody talking about that
Man, I’m not really a fan of either of these colors because they’re just so....normal. =>.
I like cauliflowers
Rare green or it looks more like perylene green to me.
Rare Green Earth.
good choice :)
Rare green earth.
Oh rats. I went into this wanting neither. Now I want both.
lol that's great, you're discovering lovely new colors.
Oto Kano haha positive way to spin that!!! ;)