My first game in the AMX 13 105 i got the medalion for killing the last tank with your last shell... I was broke after buying it, so only put 18 shells in xD
When i played elc, i spotted another elc and they cant even see me (it is about 60m or less) because i used bond optic, so i think view range is also important to decrease the enemies camo
So, because the enemy's camo cannot go over 1.0, and due to the calculation formula of the spotting range (your view range against enemy camo), without the commander vision system before, it was simply impossible to outspot some TDs/light tanks in a bush without going into proxy spot range (50m). CVS changed the game and allows you to decrease that 1.0 camo rating, enabling you to spot things at 60m, 70m etc. What helped you was the commander vision system. I suspect the enemy ELC did not have CVS, for some weird reason.
The thing is, while i agree with your point, it could be any number of reasons you outspotted the elc. Maybe he didnt have cvs or exhaust, bad crew, no optics etc. Or bad bush clips
They are fun, but not as idiot proof as ruskies, these actually require some skill. But they feel really rewarding, plus i personally love how amx 13 tanks look
Tbh they play bit different than elc. With elc engagements with enemy are minimal(in most case scenarios) while tech tree line requires you to assasinate them from time to time and know when to engage
@@agbrenvI played it a lot when it was still tier 8. Light tank meta changed so much after introduction of tier 10 lights and shifting tier 8 to tier 9 that I still can't get back to that tank. 13 90 was a beast before that.
My advice when playing a light is ignore the chat. Every game u play, someone will start ranting about how ur a bad light and ‘go spot’ what they want is for you to just yolo charge so they can get one shot of damage. Just ignore it and play smart.
Constructive suggestion to further improve this already good format: As far as I am aware there are a maximum of 3 map bans possible and not using them to the full potential seems like a waste of potential benefit to discuss.
Greetings from a console pleb. Stats differ a bit between PC and console. The AMX 105 is my favourite T10 LT as everyone, even T10 heavy tanks can get 510m view range. Combat ability means soo much more on console and the AMX is unmatched for its abilty to put out damage and still spot. Best T10 LT on console
Considering that the Manticore gets 530m view range with 541m and 41.59% camo completely negates any camo up to 18% and will spot the AMX at 272m when the AMX will spot the Manticore at 185m. That's 87m difference, pretty big if you ask me.
To be honest, the 13 105 was at its peak immediately after its introduction, summer of 2017 all the way up until 2019 when the wheelies were introduced in ~January... How I dreaded that patch. I should know, since I played around 2k games in the 13 105 during the span of one year. After that, even I stopped playing the 13 105. The context changed, and with the introduction of the Manticore too, I find myself rarely taking the 13 105 for a spin. It feels like it's just not worth it anymore, too many things blow you out of the water these days. It's significantly harder to do well in now than it used to be 6 years ago. And it makes sense, game changed a lot, for the worse, at least for high tier light tanks.
27:44 my first ever fadins medal was going to be a kolobanovs 1v6 in the 13 105 against a progetto 65. He had less than 900 hp, all 3 of my shells bounced and i lost the game. It was going to be my 2nd kolobanovs aswell :/
In all honesty, I play on ps and I use safe stowage on my panzer 4 h to lower the chance to get ammo racked, please use this because it’s better for tanks with tight crew spaces and it will make it harder for the enemy to one shot you
The reason I’m interested in autoloader tanks is that the HE got nerf to the ground. Now the only way to consistently cause critical damage is autoloader.
THE TANK I HAVE THE MOST FUN IN IS amx 13 90, HAVE LIKE 4-5K GAMES IN IT, sry caps lock, never really thought about buying the T10 verion.. Is it really worth it?
Not using optics is a mistake on the 2nd setup. For a pure spotting build you need it. 447 means you will not spot almost anything at max view range except for maybe an FV4005. Also other lights will outspot you. The idea behind camo you mention is nice but without premium vents the tank still has great camo and if you use bushes correctly you are safe.
you should never run vents. period. its a bad piece of equipment. if you want view range. use optics. and there is always a reason to go over 445m view range bc that'll make it easier to spot the enemy lts@@robinkhn2547
that doesnt exist cos arty has by far the lowest skillcap out of all classes. you really dont need much to be good in arty. its literally just clicking.
In that game on Karelia, why did you wait so long to spot the Manti? That Manticore could have wiped out your entire team if he did his spotting correctly...
You really want CVS and LNES on Ruinberg as they allow you to dominate the middle ridge of bushes. I have had games with spotting considered unreasonable for a city maps.
So practically speaking this is a borrat kinda tank but with one more shell, more alpha at higher tier and more cammo less view range? Should have gone for the LT line rather than the batchat line.
well, tier 6 light tanks are kinda rigged because the Type 64 is just the best light tank at that tier. But the AMX 12t can still be fun because of its magazine.
marks show up on your (tier 5+) tank barrel if you do more damage (damage+assist damage for lights I think) in your last 100 battles than a certain % of players in their last 100 battles in that tank. Be better than 65% for 1 mark, 85 for 2, 95 for 3, and they stay forever even if your average falls again
Just change vents to optics and the amx will be even better. vents is never a good choice on light apart from tier 7 and below since you cant have cvs or if its a dmg setup
Personally I use CVS, Vents, Optics on my Manticore. It has piss poor dpm anyway (1,929 dpm), might as well make it so I always get the first shot off and can avoid being spotted, it doesn't have enough ammo to spam out shells anyway. Targets of opportunity and stuff.
@@neovo903if you want to improve your spotting capacity over the offensive aspect of your Manticore, why not using exhaust instead of vents? For pure scout build I mean
Is it me or do streamers over do it with the bond equipment, for a change play it with normal equipment's players dont spend 5k on them for each equipment
This joker never stop make us laugh. Parkinson fingers (QB) stop paying other people to mark your tank. Come on baby, we all know how shaky your hands while you are aiming. 🤣🤣
Just goes to show you that even the players that spend all day playing this game, don't know how to play. The light tank gameplay is light vs light. Then light spotting tds. Spotting heavies and mediums no one gives AF about. A stupid monkey can spot heavies. Winning the light vs light battle means having more view range and more camo removal.
I really wish they would add at least crewskill/field mod team balancing to this game. The argument has always been we cannot balance mm around player skill it’s too hard. Well now Wargaming you have no excuse. You have created modifiers that you can easily pull stats from for each player. If nothing else this would keep newer players in the same ques. No these grief whores enjoy letting their new players get farmed too much to do anything that makes that much sense. This is why this game is virtually dead in North America.
LOSE THE VENTS ON THE SPOTTING SETUP. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SETUP IS TO NOT BE FLEXIBLE BUT TO HYPER SCOUT. If you look up the math of spotting you will see that Optics and CVS compliment each other really well. They shouldn't compete against each other. They should be used together. At 36% camo stationary lights inside a double bush cannot be spotted until proxy distance. The critical break point rises to 38% at tier X due to field mods. Camo above this number is for staying inside single bushes or active spotting. But a good light tank wants 470+ meters of view range and at least in the high 40s camo because otherwise you can't spot at long ranges and single bushes are not very safe. A good light tank is a ghost.
It's not worth losing the vents at all - they buff everything by 4.25%. I don't need more than 450 m view range, as I showed in the video, especially at the sacrifice of everything.
@@QuickyBabyTVi do make that sacrifice on everyone of my scouting setups but i certainly understand why one would pick vents and its quite a close call which is better imo. I go optics because i feel like around 50% camo is enough and id like to have roughly 500m view range
![AMX 13 105 Ranked Teamplay Carries [World of Tanks Gameplay]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5ORTHU-biqA/mqdefault.jpg)
"If you find yourself dying early... Don't!"
Well, I'm glad we finally answered that age-old question...
[slaps forehead] Of course! Why didn't I think of that?
make better decisions
@cshubs Wouldn't you need a mortician to make you slap your forehead being dead & all?
quicky would be a good drill Sargent in WW2
note: most light tanks fail this task
My first game in the AMX 13 105 i got the medalion for killing the last tank with your last shell...
I was broke after buying it, so only put 18 shells in xD
thats me with all my t10s mate, it got so bad i could only afford one teir 10 tank at a time
@@quadrantalerror1121 I learned the hard way to not sell t10 tanks, bsically throwing away credits for a t9
The commentary on the first game was FANTASTIC.
When i played elc, i spotted another elc and they cant even see me (it is about 60m or less) because i used bond optic, so i think view range is also important to decrease the enemies camo
Not really decrease but overpower ther camo+view with your camo+view
obviously, if two LT's have same camo, the one with better viewrange will win
So, because the enemy's camo cannot go over 1.0, and due to the calculation formula of the spotting range (your view range against enemy camo), without the commander vision system before, it was simply impossible to outspot some TDs/light tanks in a bush without going into proxy spot range (50m). CVS changed the game and allows you to decrease that 1.0 camo rating, enabling you to spot things at 60m, 70m etc. What helped you was the commander vision system. I suspect the enemy ELC did not have CVS, for some weird reason.
@@thunder7135 maybe because i have bounty optics and exhaust
The thing is, while i agree with your point, it could be any number of reasons you outspotted the elc. Maybe he didnt have cvs or exhaust, bad crew, no optics etc. Or bad bush clips
As someone who's about to hit the amx 90 after being dissapointed with the bat chat, thank you for this timely release!
I hate it when you do videos like this. Now I want one.
Thank you for reminding me to grind this line. I stopped at tier 8 after I got the ELC even 90😅
Absolute filth!
the tier 9 is awesome, and the tier 10 is pretty good too
They are fun, but not as idiot proof as ruskies, these actually require some skill. But they feel really rewarding, plus i personally love how amx 13 tanks look
Tbh they play bit different than elc.
With elc engagements with enemy are minimal(in most case scenarios) while tech tree line requires you to assasinate them from time to time and know when to engage
@@agbrenvI played it a lot when it was still tier 8. Light tank meta changed so much after introduction of tier 10 lights and shifting tier 8 to tier 9 that I still can't get back to that tank. 13 90 was a beast before that.
My advice when playing a light is ignore the chat. Every game u play, someone will start ranting about how ur a bad light and ‘go spot’ what they want is for you to just yolo charge so they can get one shot of damage. Just ignore it and play smart.
Constructive suggestion to further improve this already good format:
As far as I am aware there are a maximum of 3 map bans possible and not using them to the full potential seems like a waste of potential benefit to discuss.
Greetings from a console pleb. Stats differ a bit between PC and console. The AMX 105 is my favourite T10 LT as everyone, even T10 heavy tanks can get 510m view range. Combat ability means soo much more on console and the AMX is unmatched for its abilty to put out damage and still spot. Best T10 LT on console
I personally use a CVS, Binos, and an exhaust for spotting
For my damage, I will take vents, aiming device, and camo net
Considering that the Manticore gets 530m view range with 541m and 41.59% camo completely negates any camo up to 18% and will spot the AMX at 272m when the AMX will spot the Manticore at 185m. That's 87m difference, pretty big if you ask me.
To be honest, the 13 105 was at its peak immediately after its introduction, summer of 2017 all the way up until 2019 when the wheelies were introduced in ~January... How I dreaded that patch. I should know, since I played around 2k games in the 13 105 during the span of one year. After that, even I stopped playing the 13 105. The context changed, and with the introduction of the Manticore too, I find myself rarely taking the 13 105 for a spin. It feels like it's just not worth it anymore, too many things blow you out of the water these days. It's significantly harder to do well in now than it used to be 6 years ago. And it makes sense, game changed a lot, for the worse, at least for high tier light tanks.
27:44 my first ever fadins medal was going to be a kolobanovs 1v6 in the 13 105 against a progetto 65. He had less than 900 hp, all 3 of my shells bounced and i lost the game. It was going to be my 2nd kolobanovs aswell :/
Thanks for this video, it's helping me be a little better at my AMX.
In all honesty, I play on ps and I use safe stowage on my panzer 4 h to lower the chance to get ammo racked, please use this because it’s better for tanks with tight crew spaces and it will make it harder for the enemy to one shot you
The reason I’m interested in autoloader tanks is that the HE got nerf to the ground. Now the only way to consistently cause critical damage is autoloader.
I’m confused maybe I’m stupid so don’t flame me but I thought Mark of excellence only consisted on the damage that you dealt. Are there other factors?
Hey guys, can anyone explain why he is using exhaust in the firepower slot instead of vents?
Well, it does not matter cause he got bond vents.
correct, bounty vents can be mounted in any slot and gives max bonus regardless
ah right thanks guys, just tested it out and yeah you're right, bond equipment doesn't give any extra bonus when using it in the correct slot, thanks!
THE TANK I HAVE THE MOST FUN IN IS amx 13 90, HAVE LIKE 4-5K GAMES IN IT, sry caps lock, never really thought about buying the T10 verion.. Is it really worth it?
"Dying early is not the thing to do" (Quickybaby 20231118)
the manticore on your team in first game basically used your positioning to gain spot damage but oh well
Not using optics is a mistake on the 2nd setup. For a pure spotting build you need it. 447 means you will not spot almost anything at max view range except for maybe an FV4005. Also other lights will outspot you. The idea behind camo you mention is nice but without premium vents the tank still has great camo and if you use bushes correctly you are safe.
Question. If I'm not playing super sneaky medium like around 30% or less camo(stationary/moving), is optics better than vent?
depends. Your goal should in general be to reach the 445m spotting distance. If you can reach that already with vents, then why switch to optics?
you should never run vents. period. its a bad piece of equipment. if you want view range. use optics. and there is always a reason to go over 445m view range bc that'll make it easier to spot the enemy lts@@robinkhn2547
Thank you for the excellent Video, QB!
My view range on my spotting build is almost 560 so I am constantly getting 4-5k spotting
Hey QB i really love thies kiends of vids please make more and
For my sake german tanks 🙏🏻💪🏻
Gotta see those high level artillery gameplay
that doesnt exist cos arty has by far the lowest skillcap out of all classes. you really dont need much to be good in arty. its literally just clicking.
@@robinkhn2547 not exactly, you dont need much to not suck in arty, but you still need to be very good to perform very good it for example
obj 140 plss master class
In that game on Karelia, why did you wait so long to spot the Manti? That Manticore could have wiped out your entire team if he did his spotting correctly...
For autoloader scout vents is ok but for single shot no no...for me😊
my DMG record? Amx 13 105
QB, you are the master of WOT.
😂😂😂
As long as u got +36% camo, u can only get spotted by proxy if ur in a bush. Surprised this guy doesn’t know this
You really want CVS and LNES on Ruinberg as they allow you to dominate the middle ridge of bushes. I have had games with spotting considered unreasonable for a city maps.
Long reload light tanks are hard on teams.. Especially playing as tds or snatching kills..! 😮
So practically speaking this is a borrat kinda tank but with one more shell, more alpha at higher tier and more cammo less view range? Should have gone for the LT line rather than the batchat line.
TY 🙏🙏
Masterclass akhy
This is my fave tank in the game.
This is a potentially dumb question. I enjoy the AMX 12t how does it compare tier for tier?
well, tier 6 light tanks are kinda rigged because the Type 64 is just the best light tank at that tier. But the AMX 12t can still be fun because of its magazine.
great video qb
Can you do Maus Masterclass?
What build would you recommend using before getting the second loadout field mod
Personal preference, pure scout can work - exaust, cvs, optics, or something more universal - cvs, stabs, optics or vents, stabs, optics, you choose
can i put my char crew in this tank
at the risk of sounding noob-ish , what is 3 marking?
marks show up on your (tier 5+) tank barrel if you do more damage (damage+assist damage for lights I think) in your last 100 battles than a certain % of players in their last 100 battles in that tank. Be better than 65% for 1 mark, 85 for 2, 95 for 3, and they stay forever even if your average falls again
Masterclass the Maus please!!!
I like the 1390 better that thing is just an invisible assassin.
autoloaders are my favorite
woooo AMX gameplay!!!!!
Armour don't give protection to this one, brain does.
First time Ive heard QB swear lmao
I honestly enjoyed light tanks more when tier 8 was highest possible. The rebalancing for +/-1 matchmaking made lights much more bland and weak
Just change vents to optics and the amx will be even better. vents is never a good choice on light apart from tier 7 and below since you cant have cvs or if its a dmg setup
yup qb is just stuck in the "vents are best on any tank " mentality
@@nasuuuz141 But it works for him which is ALL that matters.
Personally I use CVS, Vents, Optics on my Manticore. It has piss poor dpm anyway (1,929 dpm), might as well make it so I always get the first shot off and can avoid being spotted, it doesn't have enough ammo to spam out shells anyway. Targets of opportunity and stuff.
@@neovo903if you want to improve your spotting capacity over the offensive aspect of your Manticore, why not using exhaust instead of vents? For pure scout build I mean
@@vass7885 I don't have bounty exhaust system sadly
sound n video no matching, but ty
Vents instead of optics on a scout equipement ?!?!?! WTF ?!
Is it me or do streamers over do it with the bond equipment, for a change play it with normal equipment's players dont spend 5k on them for each equipment
When you see a 15 to 2 match it’s like this game is such a joke.
hmm what's that black skin? love it
This joker never stop make us laugh. Parkinson fingers (QB) stop paying other people to mark your tank. Come on baby, we all know how shaky your hands while you are aiming. 🤣🤣
QUAKY BABS! I THOUGHT YOU WOULDNT BE BACK UNTIL MY BIRTHDAY ON NOV 22!!!!😂
There is a replay in wot with 11 kills
I don't believe you. Nobody has ever gotten 11 kills in wot
@@y0mir oh its there
Just goes to show you that even the players that spend all day playing this game, don't know how to play. The light tank gameplay is light vs light. Then light spotting tds. Spotting heavies and mediums no one gives AF about. A stupid monkey can spot heavies. Winning the light vs light battle means having more view range and more camo removal.
I am speed
I really wish they would add at least crewskill/field mod team balancing to this game. The argument has always been we cannot balance mm around player skill it’s too hard. Well now Wargaming you have no excuse. You have created modifiers that you can easily pull stats from for each player. If nothing else this would keep newer players in the same ques. No these grief whores enjoy letting their new players get farmed too much to do anything that makes that much sense. This is why this game is virtually dead in North America.
LOSE THE VENTS ON THE SPOTTING SETUP. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SETUP IS TO NOT BE FLEXIBLE BUT TO HYPER SCOUT.
If you look up the math of spotting you will see that Optics and CVS compliment each other really well. They shouldn't compete against each other. They should be used together.
At 36% camo stationary lights inside a double bush cannot be spotted until proxy distance. The critical break point rises to 38% at tier X due to field mods. Camo above this number is for staying inside single bushes or active spotting. But a good light tank wants 470+ meters of view range and at least in the high 40s camo because otherwise you can't spot at long ranges and single bushes are not very safe. A good light tank is a ghost.
It's not worth losing the vents at all - they buff everything by 4.25%. I don't need more than 450 m view range, as I showed in the video, especially at the sacrifice of everything.
Lol. Chill, freak. Touch some grass if you are getting triggered by seeing a vent on this tank.
How can I sleep tonight with this dilemma?
@@QuickyBabyTVi do make that sacrifice on everyone of my scouting setups but i certainly understand why one would pick vents and its quite a close call which is better imo. I go optics because i feel like around 50% camo is enough and id like to have roughly 500m view range
What’s with the caps?
gun handling looks awful O_O
T100 more good
Better*
Sui
Shit talks other people 3 marking and being selfish and then does the same thing smfh
Best equipment load out: durability, gun rammer, turbo
What do you use for autoloaders to replace the gun rammer?
@@watercannonscollaboration2281 gun rammer
@@Plumdin1obvious trolls aint funny
@@y0mir first time?
first
Hi haven't been playing the game for ages...what is the number on the side of the tanks icon on the team lists indicating ??
How much the tank was played. When theres a yellow dot next to the Name that means that he is maxed (Level 350)
How much the tank was played. When theres a yellow dot next to the Name that means that he is maxed (Level 350)
How much the tank was played. When theres a yellow dot next to the Name that means that he is maxed (Level 350)
How much the tank was played. When theres a yellow dot next to the Name that means that he is maxed (Level 350)
@@felixkempernolte3977tyvm