I guess I’m the one weirdo this is made for. I play my PC games on a Retroid Pocket 3+. I hate sitting at a desk to play games so I never played PC games until I got the RP3+. I would just play a handheld like the Switch Lite in bed. Now when I game at night before bed I can also play my PC games on a handheld just 5 feet from my PC. It would be an even better experience with this. Something like the Steam Deck requires you to play at 720p low at 30-40 fps.
The line of sight thing is the real killer. Otherwise there are several uses I can think of. But if just walking by it will kill the connection, it's near worthless.
You hit the nail on the head. EVERYTHING (phone, tablet, Chromebook, laptop, etc.) that can run a streaming app and pair a controller can do this along with its original intended function. For less than $300, I would look at the Retroid Pocket 3+ or the AYN Odin and add your appropriate app. For more than $350 I would look at the steam deck, the ROG ally, or a used laptop. If this device landed in my lap for any reason, I would connect it to my home theater PC and when the family wants to use the smart function of the TV, I would turn this on, connect to my HTPC, and continue to surf/ game. Basically what the original WiiU had in mind for it's paddle as an optional main screen or dual screen hybrid with limited range.
I personally like My own little theory that this was created while people needed a way to test their handheld platforms and optimize for the portable experience as developers way earlier on than the steam deck.
I have to wonder if this is actually some sort of promotion of the mmWave tech more than a gaming product. Send this out for 'review' to gaming/tech channels that normally wouldn't review wireless monitors to get in front of more eyeballs, and the reviewers might understand the usefulness in video production and speak to that as bonus.
A nearly lag-free wireless monitor would be GREAT for a few applications. I'd pick up the monitor itself to have a monitor right by my bed for movies or playing a console if it could reach from my livingroom to my bedroom. Although at that point I could just run a wire.
Movies? Consider a tablet. And streaming your living room console to your bedroom i would rather consider a logitech g cloud. Works in the cloud, can also do some local streaming i think and it doesnt have the limitations of the 60ghz, but still comes with its own flaws of course.
@@Ferzin400 Given that the only tablet that's a solid choice is an iPad and I REALLY don't want to give Apple my money, I'd rather get another laptop than do that. I also never trust anything that uses the cloud buzzword since that's just me sending all my data that should be local to a server in gods know where when I'd much rather have my own solution and experience setting it up.
"Give it a couple of seconds" is like the best comment ever. More than a couple of seconds attention would be overspending let alone put money on the table for this...
The website says ZERO LAG... This is something that would interest me but the controllers are crap and theres no way its zero lag I could tell just from you touching the screen.
Your wife wants to watch K-Dramas cuddling on the couch, you want to Play Elden Ring. The console is in line of sight of the couch. You get to cuddle in the same space doing different things. Then the cat walks by causing you to lose your runes... Surprised you didn't bring up the AR glasses as a potentially similar use case, considering you can plug them into a wireless adapter and consoles use wireless controllers.
someone said to themselves, remember how good the wii u was (and it was good, ya haters)? lets make a screen that does what the wii u did. and now we have this.
Hard pass...... for gaming For a wireless display without joycons? $250-$300? Sure, What i'd actually prefer for this price is something like the NREAL Air, but with a battery, so i can wear these and connect the HDMI dongle to my camera. Would i prefer my A7iv to just output video over the USB-C port? Yes Are they going to do it? No
Are you kidding? this thing is awesome! I could use this to stream from my nintendo switch oled and see the picture on an IPS screen! for just the price of another nintendo switch oled!
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This is actually pretty cool and way better than the stupid cloud devices. The big draw here is clearly console compatibility. Looks like a mess of a device, but very cool idea. If it could compatible with the Wii U and pretend to be Wii U controller, that would be even more impressive, since the controller for Wii U is more expensive than the console now. NTSC is better than DCI-P3 TBQH.
The cloud devices make more sense, The problem with console compatibility is that: A the controllers need to be compatible to which they are joycons, so other than PC and switch they really won't be compatible. Not to mention, the poor penetration of 60 gigahertz millimeter wave stuff is so poor, you will need to actually be on your couch anyway.
I certainly want a controller/ screen to stream games from my PC - Id be even happier to have a controller/usb-c monitor and just connect over a usb c cord - but this aint it for me. Sorry. Try again.
And around the USD price of a 64GB Steam Deck that works over regular 2.4GHz/5GHz WiFi to stream from Steam on a host machine, where Host Steam is passing through stuff from BNet, Origin/EA Play, uPlay, Epic, GOG Galaxy... And the Steam Deck still have be used on its own as a proper little computer to boot.
I think I would really like a device like that but wired. Utilize full horsepower of my desktop but chilling in the recliner without a mouse and keyboard and without any lag.
I use the standard peak due 4K wireless adapter with my switch to my televisions as well as other devices to my televisions on a regular basis with them working great. It's a bit pricey but the latency at least with their other offerings is extremely impressive. I'm able to game with my switch no problem as an example
cool but...what...whats that smell?...anybody else smell that? smells like a Ninlawsuit! nope, they probably will NOT have a valid reason but that's not a Ninconcern...uses switch controller, call the Ninlawyers!!! ill probably be sued for this Nincomment ffs
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That's a lot of words, none of which managed to tell me what use case you had in mind. So please, how would you use this Wireless Camera Monitor with Nintendo Joycons strapped to the side?
I guess I’m the one weirdo this is made for. I play my PC games on a Retroid Pocket 3+. I hate sitting at a desk to play games so I never played PC games until I got the RP3+. I would just play a handheld like the Switch Lite in bed. Now when I game at night before bed I can also play my PC games on a handheld just 5 feet from my PC. It would be an even better experience with this. Something like the Steam Deck requires you to play at 720p low at 30-40 fps.
Actually it's a cool idea that'd I more likely use to play PS5 or XSX when the TV is being used. But for $350? Nah.
The line of sight thing is the real killer. Otherwise there are several uses I can think of. But if just walking by it will kill the connection, it's near worthless.
You hit the nail on the head. EVERYTHING (phone, tablet, Chromebook, laptop, etc.) that can run a streaming app and pair a controller can do this along with its original intended function.
For less than $300, I would look at the Retroid Pocket 3+ or the AYN Odin and add your appropriate app.
For more than $350 I would look at the steam deck, the ROG ally, or a used laptop.
If this device landed in my lap for any reason, I would connect it to my home theater PC and when the family wants to use the smart function of the TV, I would turn this on, connect to my HTPC, and continue to surf/ game. Basically what the original WiiU had in mind for it's paddle as an optional main screen or dual screen hybrid with limited range.
I personally like My own little theory that this was created while people needed a way to test their handheld platforms and optimize for the portable experience as developers way earlier on than the steam deck.
I'm almost sure the 4ms spec they mention is for the display's pixel response time, not for the signal latency
Seems like a screen you put in or on a SFF case and plug into the GPU to use as a travel setup.
I have to wonder if this is actually some sort of promotion of the mmWave tech more than a gaming product. Send this out for 'review' to gaming/tech channels that normally wouldn't review wireless monitors to get in front of more eyeballs, and the reviewers might understand the usefulness in video production and speak to that as bonus.
Sony saw this product and said, lets do that, genius!
A nearly lag-free wireless monitor would be GREAT for a few applications. I'd pick up the monitor itself to have a monitor right by my bed for movies or playing a console if it could reach from my livingroom to my bedroom. Although at that point I could just run a wire.
Movies? Consider a tablet. And streaming your living room console to your bedroom i would rather consider a logitech g cloud. Works in the cloud, can also do some local streaming i think and it doesnt have the limitations of the 60ghz, but still comes with its own flaws of course.
@@Ferzin400 Given that the only tablet that's a solid choice is an iPad and I REALLY don't want to give Apple my money, I'd rather get another laptop than do that. I also never trust anything that uses the cloud buzzword since that's just me sending all my data that should be local to a server in gods know where when I'd much rather have my own solution and experience setting it up.
@@TheNumbersPerson if you only need the tablet for media consumption you can grab a midrange android tablet aswell. Im absolutely happy with mine!
@@Ferzin400he said a tablet that is a solid choice, as in he does not consider them to be a solid choice...
so, less a games console, more a games terminal?
someone showed this to Sony and they said Hold my Beer.
"Give it a couple of seconds" is like the best comment ever. More than a couple of seconds attention would be overspending let alone put money on the table for this...
So its the wiiu gamepad but for anything with an hdmi port.
you should have plugged this into a WiiU for the full use case.
It exists so you can make content about it! Let's go
I jus bought this to use alongside my ace magician amr5 and you know what I don't regret the decision.
The website says ZERO LAG... This is something that would interest me but the controllers are crap and theres no way its zero lag I could tell just from you touching the screen.
I was so sure to expect Jeff to do a pointless Steamdeck=>HDMI=>PeakaDoo demo, just to be added to the 'because i can...' list ;)
Steam deck. No more needs to be said.
Was mildly interested until I saw the price. Its a nice idea, but not at $350. Just get an actual portable at that price or less.
maaaaaybe if this could also run VR, say with something like trinus+cardboard
I have those transparent joy cons lol.
Your wife wants to watch K-Dramas cuddling on the couch, you want to Play Elden Ring. The console is in line of sight of the couch. You get to cuddle in the same space doing different things. Then the cat walks by causing you to lose your runes...
Surprised you didn't bring up the AR glasses as a potentially similar use case, considering you can plug them into a wireless adapter and consoles use wireless controllers.
someone said to themselves, remember how good the wii u was (and it was good, ya haters)? lets make a screen that does what the wii u did. and now we have this.
I don't like it... Cool concept though. WiGig needs a mesh network
This product is for that one guy out there that REALLY hates video compression
Hard pass...... for gaming
For a wireless display without joycons? $250-$300?
Sure, What i'd actually prefer for this price is something like the NREAL Air, but with a battery, so i can wear these and connect the HDMI dongle to my camera.
Would i prefer my A7iv to just output video over the USB-C port? Yes
Are they going to do it? No
haha saw this on wan show, excited to hear your thoughts on it
For that price. Either get a Razer Edge 5g or a steam deck.
Are you kidding? this thing is awesome! I could use this to stream from my nintendo switch oled and see the picture on an IPS screen! for just the price of another nintendo switch oled!
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Sounds like my experience with the Wii U
now i am interested if makers have permision from nintendo to use joycon tech...... or is it just a lawsuit in waiting :D
Why not?
steamdeck is still best price/performance option
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This is actually pretty cool and way better than the stupid cloud devices.
The big draw here is clearly console compatibility.
Looks like a mess of a device, but very cool idea. If it could compatible with the Wii U and pretend to be Wii U controller, that would be even more impressive, since the controller for Wii U is more expensive than the console now.
NTSC is better than DCI-P3 TBQH.
The cloud devices make more sense, The problem with console compatibility is that: A the controllers need to be compatible to which they are joycons, so other than PC and switch they really won't be compatible.
Not to mention, the poor penetration of 60 gigahertz millimeter wave stuff is so poor, you will need to actually be on your couch anyway.
I certainly want a controller/ screen to stream games from my PC - Id be even happier to have a controller/usb-c monitor and just connect over a usb c cord - but this aint it for me. Sorry. Try again.
it is a bad way to go unless you have too much money or are desperate - just get a nice laptop for the same price
wreckfest lets goooo!!!!
Oh, its the psQ/Wii U gamepad. ReDONE.
And around the USD price of a 64GB Steam Deck that works over regular 2.4GHz/5GHz WiFi to stream from Steam on a host machine, where Host Steam is passing through stuff from BNet, Origin/EA Play, uPlay, Epic, GOG Galaxy... And the Steam Deck still have be used on its own as a proper little computer to boot.
This was out before the psQ.
@@fernandocasillasjr I know but it new so people would get the the reference.
A the stream deck
I want it
I expect it to play pirated games! ;)
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I think I would really like a device like that but wired. Utilize full horsepower of my desktop but chilling in the recliner without a mouse and keyboard and without any lag.
Asus rog ally is the end game
I use the standard peak due 4K wireless adapter with my switch to my televisions as well as other devices to my televisions on a regular basis with them working great. It's a bit pricey but the latency at least with their other offerings is extremely impressive. I'm able to game with my switch no problem as an example
Yet another Project Q prototype (jk)
Stop saying"Bespoke". Nobody says that but snooty rich people.
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@@CraftComputing Nope. My English is fine. I know a lot of words that I don't say. Cork sniffing isn't my bag. 😊
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cool but...what...whats that smell?...anybody else smell that? smells like a Ninlawsuit! nope, they probably will NOT have a valid reason but that's not a Ninconcern...uses switch controller, call the Ninlawyers!!! ill probably be sued for this Nincomment ffs
This was such a clearly biased video with no attempt to consider use-cases outside your own that I literally unsubbed from here, will do-so from Patreon, and have selected "Do Not Recommend Channel" in the sidebar. I'm not trying to convince you of anything with this comment, I don't care if you care. This is just what your video was worth to me.
But hey, at least now I know about the product :)
That's a lot of words, none of which managed to tell me what use case you had in mind.
So please, how would you use this Wireless Camera Monitor with Nintendo Joycons strapped to the side?
This sounds ridiculous for 350 bucks.
Id spend 100 max
You can't get a good screen for that price
You are being unrealistic
for 350$ i can get a generic handheld "not a steam deck" and just stream via parsec/GFN
i would use it for chaturrbate and pr0nhub LOLZ i needz 500 nits for my needz
You're gonna get 500 nits if you aren't careful.