I'm legit looking at this for my parent's setup. If I need to do a round trip for a fix, it's $50 to $70 in gas. But that Kickstarter syndrome has bitten me a few times to many.
Yea, but for $70, after you have fixed that Windows 7 machine for the nth time, you get to explain to your parents in person why you are still not married.
@@oscarcharliezulu It may help your confidence that this project is VC-backed (y-combinator) suggesting they actually have access to legit funding & supply chain, and are using kickstarter as “proof of market” rather than their main source of funding.
If any of both keep there word and do a proper open source release and try to build an open source community around it, then I think we will have a winner soon enough. Sad how JetKVM is tied to Google this way, we need to replace that with something like Tailscale.
Something that would be great is a comparison of all of the "DIY" KVM's on the market (Or at least the ones you have talked about before). That would really bring into context which is "best" for people and would show some SW updates for some of the others you show previously for comparison to new stuff.
Nice!! I went ahead and backed that project by ordering 2. I already have a couple of PiKVMs (V3 and V4) at home. So this is going to be a nice thing to have. 😁
I'm loving the ramp up of affordable mini IP KVM devices! I preordered the NanoKVM as soon as Wendel dropped his video and I received it a few weeks back-it works a charm! This video is tempting me to pickup a JetKVM. Even though it's features are pretty much the same as the NanoKVM-the company behind it seems more trustworthy considering it has the backing of Y Combinator and has public facing founders from multiple privacy respecting countries. Great overview as always @CraftComputing!
Mini HDMI is rough, way less robust and means you have to have the cables which are much less likely to just be around. Given the NanoKVM managed to fit a full-size HDMI port, I feel like this could have, any slightly bigger size would have been worth it.
Hear me out a 16 port PKVMoE A 1U KVM with a 900w PSU A 10G uplink and internal 1G switch and what equates to 16 USB-C docks supplying up to 90w of power and gigabit ethernet to devices(if all devices are connected and powered only supply 65w but supply 90w during boot) At work I have ~500 laptops to manage and because of the way people use them, i often have to re-image them once a year, i also order around 100 desktops/year for rotation and most of these at least have USB-C many of them can be powered by it(still waiting for Lenovo to include USB-C power for their Tiny, sure most of them go into their Tiny in One, its still a nice feature) But also i have mini PCs in my home lab and this would not only clean up my rack from all the network and KVM cables from my big servers, but would also eliminate the 2 rack shelves of power bricks for the mini PCs
I really like this device for being compact, easy to use and with a nice interface. The only thing I would like to see is a second USB port for power input so it's not reliant on the PC that it's controlling, PoE would be a sweet addition as well. Maybe with time we may see some VPN addons as well so it can be completely standalone?
Or get a Nano KVM with Tailscale preinstalled 😉It also comes with a "real" HDMI port and auxiliary power input. I do like the design and the case of the JetKVM, however.
@@brandonchappell1535 using the first-party tailscale service, yes they control the coordination servers and relays, but generally it can establish a direct link between nodes (which you can verify by monitoring your network traffic). traffic bw devices is encrypted so relays can't inspect it and the client code is open source so you can verify the encryption. and finally you can also self-host coordination/relay using headscale, it's open source, not 100% full-featured but good enough for most homelabs.
That's just for authenticating to their coordination server which you can self host with headscale. No traffic goes through their servers as long as devices can have a direct connection to each other. They do have relay servers to handle the rare cases where a direct connection is not possible, but everything is still end to end encrypted with wireguard anyway.
@@DarkSedushi oh right, i did briefly look at headscale but seemed above my paygrade haha i love being able to tunnel in an its like being home. Helps with my double nat with plex too, i love it
So I wonder if this would work by connecting it to, lets say, a 8 ports KVM switch and if the switch itself supports CTRL+# to switch between servers. I know this works with PI-KVM. This thing should technically be able to as well right?
Not including the ATX power, but being sold as an add-on (that is not priced yet) will make this option a lot more expensive. There are other PiKVM hardware solutions out there that cost a lot less than "the original" and that comes with ATX power ... Soo the hole "it's only 69$" falls apart, when you need to pay more to get the same basis functions other PiKVM based options has standard for just a few bucks more.
Sounds like a really great device, though I do wish they could have it powered via PoE. It could then be a good solution for people wanting to obtain a much cheaper alternative to the BliKVM. And its so tiny I could ship it to remote offices for easy TS, just 3 connections!
This would also be a good tool for travelling admin for headless (or failed monitor/KB) "client" PCs, with the network going directly to our laptop; replacing things like Nexdocks or GPD Pocket 3 (as both are "unproductive" to be carried in a trip without a laptop).
I've worked with servers and sever class motherboards for many years and with that I've also used a lot of IPMI solutions. And the KVM part talked about here isn't actually a part of IPMI. Intelligent Platform Management Interface is really a function to provide data about the hardware to a remote client. This works by having a small computer, often a SOC, that monitors a network port and answers instructions by sending response in clear text format. This system contains a lot of information about the motherboard and it status such as temperatures, fans speeds, serial number, power status. It can turn a computer on or off through a soft or hard stop, reset CMOS (clear BIOS) and transmit and receive serial data so you can attach a serial terminal perfect for handling UNIX or other *NIX OS but not much use for a windows machine or other GUI based operating systems. It can also report information about the components attached and things like case, drive bays and so on provided it has been defined by the manufacturer. As for ability to take control over the machine it's limited to serial data so you can send and receive data as if you had a serial cable connected. This is fine for maintaining a Unix machine or one using any number of *NIX based operating systems but usually pretty useless for something with a GUI such as Windows. But the KVM over IP is not a part of the standard. It is however something that server manufacturers has implemented, usually by having the BMC host a web server and having it serve pages showing all the relevant data and also a java based client able to handle the KVM and remote media parts. This web server and the functions it provides is not part of the IPMI standard and works a bit differently for all the companies providing these BMC solutions. So KVM over IP is not a IPMI function. Doesn't mean it's not a good thing, but it's not a part of IPMI.
Hm. If I'm reading this correctly, it doesn't have power management in the base package, so it would be relying on shaking the mouse to wake, for example, or power management from the OS. Great for what it is, but I'd need native power management for my use case. I wish the project every success.
Hey Jeff, have you ever used a Raritan branded KVM? I used them frequently at work and really enjoyed using it. They are a bit spendy, but are amazing to use if you can get them cheaper. I have a personal one (DKX3-808) that I snagged recently for cheap and if you want to test it for a vid I would be able to send it your way temporarily. I am not sure if you do these kind of things but I thought I would at least offer since you have been doing KVM videos. I thought it might be interesting to show what KVMs are used in enterprise environments. If this is outside of your norms, it's no big deal.
The ISO streaming feature is the only thing I miss in my Sipeed NanoKVM. But, to be fair, $70 is what I paid for 3 of them, so there's not much I can complain about here.
This looks interesting and it would certainly be a solution to a problem that I have. I am a little leery about Kickstarter projects. That I think I'm definitely going to pack this one. Only problem is, I may have run out of ethernet in the location where I would like to use this device.
I backed the kickstarter, I do wish they gave you some of the accessories. Specifically the DC barrel adaptor…. I do think they did missed an opportunity not including PoE or a second usb port for alternate power I specifically want to be able to control my mini PC proxmox nodes with this but I’m not sure yet how that adaptor is going to function
Is there a way to power the device independently of the host? I haven’t encountered many systems that keep usb power up through a reboot. Also agree with others that this has limited use without the ability to “push the power button”.
This is sweet so I don't have to worry about graphics cards issues. Plus remote desktop doesn't like to open drives like CD or DVD. So I can do this on a fly to rip CDs while I am connected to my main PC
i am so buying one right now as some one who is the tec support for my family. i dont know how many times i have dropped what ever was doing to go to my parent/sister or my grandparents house to just reboot the pc/ remote into it for 5min of work. atlest 2/3 house holds if i gave them one with basic instructions on how to connect it to said device and or just have it plugged in all the time and set up save me 30-40min drive round trip each time
I wonder if they are using smart watch displays? If so, that is cool and I hope more products use these displays since they are cheap and already exist.
If it uses UDP 3478 for WebRTC and can't be changed you can throw any Unifi networks out of the window. Just found this out as they use that port for the adoption services of their devices. I was wrecking my brain for months trying to figure out why I couldn't use rpc protocols through my STUN / TURN environment.
I'm thinking perhaps PoE? You could use a USB-C hub/dock that adds power. Though it's so small it could run off a series of coin cell batteries if it wasn't getting power via USB.
I would ask for IEC C13/C14 or 5-20R passthrough so that power could also be brute-forced without a managed PDU, and jumper wires for reset and power switches, to round out all the features of normal IPMI.
Those jumper wires are done well on the NanoKVM: they are in parallel with the stock power/reset/hdd-led wires so not only do you have power/reset control: even drive activity shows in the web console. Sometimes, especially during installs, it's nice to know the remote system is 'doing something' when it may otherwise appear to be idle or locked up.
My BLIkvm had a Chinese back door on it. I noticed when my (server) BIOS was randomly in Chinese on a server that was not even on. I removed all my BLIkvm immediately after, then reloaded an updated bios.
@@manitoba-op4jx I’m hoping someday I can reflash it with pi-kvm software (have to change the code as a few pins are different for the usb capture or something). I’m currently moving so it’s not a concern now.
@RetroandGoofy That's quite the accusation. You have a packet sniff of that, or are you just assuming because a Chinese product came with a Chinese language installed...???
@@CraftComputing sorry no proof, I just freaked out and unplugged everything. Might be because I bought it on AliExpress and used the SD card they shipped? I have UniFi network with all the intrusion stuff set to max, and did not have a port open for the KVM. I do not have a date when it happened since that one server was off for a long period of time. I boot that server about every 6 months and backup my main server files to it as an offline backup. I just used it local because I had a 42u rack in another room.
Would have rather seen it powered via PoE than the USB port. It is much easier to add a PoE injector than to try and find a way to get the USB port to be always on if the device doesn't have one. Hopefully they consider this and make a version that is PoE powered.
Hi, thanks for the video. U are showing the KVM solution hooked up to a Intel Platform. Why not enable Intel AMT and use that for remote management? Has it less features than KVM?
What about covering the RJ11 features in the review? I'm guessing it will terminate to control pins for power/reset switches for the target motherboard
The RJ11 is supposed to support power/reset, as well as provide serial. Though I haven't seen the device yet. If they release it, I might cover it in a follow up video.
@@CraftComputing Looking forward to it! A remote solution like this isn't very worth it unless it's got that function, and could very well be the dealbreaker for some admins/homelabbers :)
@@CraftComputing You should have mention some of the downsides that this KVM unit does not offer power control (on/off/cycle) to the machine -- a very very important part of IPMI.
Well-built device - OK, nice, but how practical are all the case shapes of the different devices? In a rack, in a professional environment with multiple KVMs, I think only devices as plug-in cards or as 1U rack mounts make sense. Otherwise you end up attaching all the little boxes with Velcro. For use outside of a rack, a cuboid shape with screw options on several sides might be a good idea so that the KVM can be attached in different ways, and it shouldn't be too small for that either. An alternative would be the plug-in card, again, but there has to be space for it. This JetKVM looks so stylish, as if it should be used all the time instead of gathering dust behind the computer because the computer is remotely operated and controlled. It looks more like an alarm clock or status display.
69 Bucks sounds like a steal, but then they add almost 1/3 of the cost of the device as shipping on top, so its 89 bucks in the end. Still good if it delivers... Sadly, Kickstarter still wont allow anything else than a credit card so its out of the question.
I am still waiting on my 5pk of RISC-V mini KVMs. I want to try them before I jump to the next one and hope this one comes to market soon for retail to get them faster and easier. I am glad that the market is coming out with cheaper alternatives and this one looks nice and sleek.
Craft Computing very interesting! Question… is this something that’d work well for graphics editing on a remote Windows PC? I am about 95% converted to running Linux. There are just a handful of pesky Windows programs that I find hard to live without.
Nice review So you cant use the the JetKVM with a Server that has no GPU, can you? Im running a server with an R9 3950X and a Tesla P40 - so completely headless... there is no GPU on board
Too bad they didn't also support a USB display device with the other virtual devices, then it could also just be one USB cord and Ethernet since this also won't work with plain-old-VGA and none of my servers have HDMI.
Thanks for the breakdown! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Does this come with a mini HDMI cable? I don't have any HDMI cables with a mini-connector. To bad it couldn't use a standard HDMI connector or DisplayPort.
Good, but no VGA. On a traditional, as in expensive solution, adding a VGA to HDMI converter is nothing, however at this price point it adds quite a bit, both in cost and size (many converters are bigger than this) So there is definitely a market for a native VGA version.
Mounting remote iso / floppy image or even usb drive was an option in DELL's iDRAC solution since forever, however in my experience it doesn't work very well ever a ssh socks proxy or VPN.
Great option but if you need the be able to hard power down the PC or hard reset it, this devices will not be possible as it has no access to the power and reset headers on the board
The JetKVM feels a bit more fleshed out. Fit and finish quality isn't even compareable. I also prefer the JetKVM over the NanoKVM, mainly due to the open-source software. NanoKVM hasn't indicated if they'll open up their OS yet, even after setting some sales goals. github.com/sipeed/NanoKVM/issues/1
Kickstarter… no thanks, too much dissapointments. You are angel investor there but your reward is not proportional to risk since way too many projects do not deliver to promise.
I'm legit looking at this for my parent's setup. If I need to do a round trip for a fix, it's $50 to $70 in gas. But that Kickstarter syndrome has bitten me a few times to many.
Yea, but for $70, after you have fixed that Windows 7 machine for the nth time, you get to explain to your parents in person why you are still not married.
@@jasonluong3862 savage lmao
@@jasonluong3862 I also prefer to disappoint my parents in person. I’m traditional like that.
Yeah I can’t do kickstarter anymore unless the company has a track record of delivering …
And even then maybe not
@@oscarcharliezulu It may help your confidence that this project is VC-backed (y-combinator) suggesting they actually have access to legit funding & supply chain, and are using kickstarter as “proof of market” rather than their main source of funding.
Looking forward to the JetKVM vs. NanoKVM (or however the RISCV one is named) showdown. Love the price point & competition.
The new PCIe version of the NanoKVM looks sexy!
ooo, neat (re: NanoKVM)
especially since it supports TF/"microsd" 🤔
@@MikeKirkReloadedi wish it didn’t have the pcie “x0” connector because not a lot of newer motherboards can’t fit because of the nvme slots.
If any of both keep there word and do a proper open source release and try to build an open source community around it, then I think we will have a winner soon enough.
Sad how JetKVM is tied to Google this way, we need to replace that with something like Tailscale.
@@autohmae the Sipeed NanoKVM has a full GitHub now so we’re definitely trending in that direction.
Something that would be great is a comparison of all of the "DIY" KVM's on the market (Or at least the ones you have talked about before). That would really bring into context which is "best" for people and would show some SW updates for some of the others you show previously for comparison to new stuff.
Thanks for calling attention to this. Really looks useful. I decided to back the project to get one and some of the add-ons as well.
I don't need it...
I don't need it...
I don't need it...
I NEEEEeeeEeeEeEeEeeeeEeeEEEed IT
"I'm buying the whole stock"
That's most of the lab 😂
Nice!! I went ahead and backed that project by ordering 2. I already have a couple of PiKVMs (V3 and V4) at home. So this is going to be a nice thing to have. 😁
2 mins in I was on the kickstarter and pledged for one, by the 8 minute mark I has changed my pledge to three devices :)
Couldn't tell you the last time I even humoured the idea of backing a crowd funded project. This one might just break that drought.
Perfect timing, I've been looking for something like this and almost ordered a couple. Glad I waited, this is better.
Except it's a Kickstarter and isn't available for purchase yet.
Vaporware, you cannot buy one!
I remember saying it was beautiful but didn't know exactly what kvms actually do. I'm glad you elaborated on that.
I'm loving the ramp up of affordable mini IP KVM devices!
I preordered the NanoKVM as soon as Wendel dropped his video and I received it a few weeks back-it works a charm!
This video is tempting me to pickup a JetKVM. Even though it's features are pretty much the same as the NanoKVM-the company behind it seems more trustworthy considering it has the backing of Y Combinator and has public facing founders from multiple privacy respecting countries.
Great overview as always @CraftComputing!
Mini HDMI is rough, way less robust and means you have to have the cables which are much less likely to just be around. Given the NanoKVM managed to fit a full-size HDMI port, I feel like this could have, any slightly bigger size would have been worth it.
Hear me out
a 16 port PKVMoE
A 1U KVM with a 900w PSU
A 10G uplink and internal 1G switch
and what equates to 16 USB-C docks supplying up to 90w of power and gigabit ethernet to devices(if all devices are connected and powered only supply 65w but supply 90w during boot)
At work I have ~500 laptops to manage and because of the way people use them, i often have to re-image them once a year, i also order around 100 desktops/year for rotation and most of these at least have USB-C many of them can be powered by it(still waiting for Lenovo to include USB-C power for their Tiny, sure most of them go into their Tiny in One, its still a nice feature)
But also i have mini PCs in my home lab and this would not only clean up my rack from all the network and KVM cables from my big servers, but would also eliminate the 2 rack shelves of power bricks for the mini PCs
My KVM has reinforced PS/2 and VGA ports, with a big knob that makes a satisfying "clunk" sound when switching outputs.
That knob weighs more than the JetKVM though :-D
I honestly always thought the first “I” stood for integrated. I learned something new today!
I really like this device for being compact, easy to use and with a nice interface. The only thing I would like to see is a second USB port for power input so it's not reliant on the PC that it's controlling, PoE would be a sweet addition as well. Maybe with time we may see some VPN addons as well so it can be completely standalone?
In for one. This will pay for itself the first time I don't have to lug an LCD over to the server rack. Hope it arrives.
Install tailscale on it and access anywhere without a 3rd party relay 😃
Or get a Nano KVM with Tailscale preinstalled 😉It also comes with a "real" HDMI port and auxiliary power input. I do like the design and the case of the JetKVM, however.
I thought tailscale uses their servers, hence why you need to set up on their site using ur google account?
@@brandonchappell1535 using the first-party tailscale service, yes they control the coordination servers and relays, but generally it can establish a direct link between nodes (which you can verify by monitoring your network traffic). traffic bw devices is encrypted so relays can't inspect it and the client code is open source so you can verify the encryption. and finally you can also self-host coordination/relay using headscale, it's open source, not 100% full-featured but good enough for most homelabs.
That's just for authenticating to their coordination server which you can self host with headscale. No traffic goes through their servers as long as devices can have a direct connection to each other. They do have relay servers to handle the rare cases where a direct connection is not possible, but everything is still end to end encrypted with wireguard anyway.
@@DarkSedushi oh right, i did briefly look at headscale but seemed above my paygrade haha i love being able to tunnel in an its like being home. Helps with my double nat with plex too, i love it
Looking forward to the new bling next week by the sounds of it.
I've been looking for this! Just backed the project!
So I wonder if this would work by connecting it to, lets say, a 8 ports KVM switch and if the switch itself supports CTRL+# to switch between servers. I know this works with PI-KVM. This thing should technically be able to as well right?
Sweet. I've wanted a KVM for a while now, but at $69 (ok $103cnd) it's still a steal of a deal. Trigger pulled!
Not including the ATX power, but being sold as an add-on (that is not priced yet) will make this option a lot more expensive. There are other PiKVM hardware solutions out there that cost a lot less than "the original" and that comes with ATX power ... Soo the hole "it's only 69$" falls apart, when you need to pay more to get the same basis functions other PiKVM based options has standard for just a few bucks more.
$10 is not really 'a lot more expensive'...
@@LarsBerntropBos yes it is based on its competitors that do more for less money
@@CGGC0202less than $79? link plz
Sounds like a really great device, though I do wish they could have it powered via PoE. It could then be a good solution for people wanting to obtain a much cheaper alternative to the BliKVM.
And its so tiny I could ship it to remote offices for easy TS, just 3 connections!
This would also be a good tool for travelling admin for headless (or failed monitor/KB) "client" PCs, with the network going directly to our laptop; replacing things like Nexdocks or GPD Pocket 3 (as both are "unproductive" to be carried in a trip without a laptop).
for 69 clams, this is perfect. I'm digging the option to use Google for SSO. and would make things 9000% better for me
I've worked with servers and sever class motherboards for many years and with that I've also used a lot of IPMI solutions. And the KVM part talked about here isn't actually a part of IPMI.
Intelligent Platform Management Interface is really a function to provide data about the hardware to a remote client. This works by having a small computer, often a SOC, that monitors a network port and answers instructions by sending response in clear text format. This system contains a lot of information about the motherboard and it status such as temperatures, fans speeds, serial number, power status. It can turn a computer on or off through a soft or hard stop, reset CMOS (clear BIOS) and transmit and receive serial data so you can attach a serial terminal perfect for handling UNIX or other *NIX OS but not much use for a windows machine or other GUI based operating systems. It can also report information about the components attached and things like case, drive bays and so on provided it has been defined by the manufacturer. As for ability to take control over the machine it's limited to serial data so you can send and receive data as if you had a serial cable connected. This is fine for maintaining a Unix machine or one using any number of *NIX based operating systems but usually pretty useless for something with a GUI such as Windows.
But the KVM over IP is not a part of the standard. It is however something that server manufacturers has implemented, usually by having the BMC host a web server and having it serve pages showing all the relevant data and also a java based client able to handle the KVM and remote media parts. This web server and the functions it provides is not part of the IPMI standard and works a bit differently for all the companies providing these BMC solutions.
So KVM over IP is not a IPMI function. Doesn't mean it's not a good thing, but it's not a part of IPMI.
Hm. If I'm reading this correctly, it doesn't have power management in the base package, so it would be relying on shaking the mouse to wake, for example, or power management from the OS. Great for what it is, but I'd need native power management for my use case. I wish the project every success.
Hey Jeff, have you ever used a Raritan branded KVM? I used them frequently at work and really enjoyed using it. They are a bit spendy, but are amazing to use if you can get them cheaper. I have a personal one (DKX3-808) that I snagged recently for cheap and if you want to test it for a vid I would be able to send it your way temporarily. I am not sure if you do these kind of things but I thought I would at least offer since you have been doing KVM videos. I thought it might be interesting to show what KVMs are used in enterprise environments. If this is outside of your norms, it's no big deal.
The ISO streaming feature is the only thing I miss in my Sipeed NanoKVM. But, to be fair, $70 is what I paid for 3 of them, so there's not much I can complain about here.
Sold! Thanks Jeff!
managed to get 996/1000 of the single pledge...
hope it works as good as it seems.
thx for sharing, jeff
This looks interesting and it would certainly be a solution to a problem that I have. I am a little leery about Kickstarter projects. That I think I'm definitely going to pack this one. Only problem is, I may have run out of ethernet in the location where I would like to use this device.
Ez backing. Need a few of these type of devices, but not at $200 a piece. Good price point, seems worth.
I backed the kickstarter, I do wish they gave you some of the accessories. Specifically the DC barrel adaptor….
I do think they did missed an opportunity not including PoE or a second usb port for alternate power
I specifically want to be able to control my mini PC proxmox nodes with this but I’m not sure yet how that adaptor is going to function
Is there a way to power the device independently of the host? I haven’t encountered many systems that keep usb power up through a reboot.
Also agree with others that this has limited use without the ability to “push the power button”.
WOL.. for the power button push... and there's always OTG data/power cables
@@chilexican WOL is of no use to force a restart
I think there are Y cables that connect data lines and allow external power
I have a pdu with remote power control. You could use a cheap iot plug to do the same after setting your pc to always power on.
This is sweet so I don't have to worry about graphics cards issues. Plus remote desktop doesn't like to open drives like CD or DVD. So I can do this on a fly to rip CDs while I am connected to my main PC
Thought it was an Apple Watch sitting on the case. 😂
I almost used the line "this is like if Apple designed a KVM". The aluminum and OLED/Curved glass aesthetic is 100% on brand.
i am so buying one right now as some one who is the tec support for my family. i dont know how many times i have dropped what ever was doing to go to my parent/sister or my grandparents house to just reboot the pc/ remote into it for 5min of work. atlest 2/3 house holds if i gave them one with basic instructions on how to connect it to said device and or just have it plugged in all the time and set up save me 30-40min drive round trip each time
This looks really freaking handy for a reasonable price.
I wonder if they are using smart watch displays? If so, that is cool and I hope more products use these displays since they are cheap and already exist.
If it uses UDP 3478 for WebRTC and can't be changed you can throw any Unifi networks out of the window. Just found this out as they use that port for the adoption services of their devices. I was wrecking my brain for months trying to figure out why I couldn't use rpc protocols through my STUN / TURN environment.
You might be able to make use of SNAT for outbound.
Please explain this a little more. I’m running all UniFi gear. What kind of problems am I looking at?
omg this is exactly what I need,
I'm a bit confused how do you power the host computer if its off? don't you need the KVM connected to the host system panel connector power switch?
The kickstarter provides a few different expansion options including an ATX breakout board that would do as you described.
I'm thinking perhaps PoE? You could use a USB-C hub/dock that adds power. Though it's so small it could run off a series of coin cell batteries if it wasn't getting power via USB.
many host computers have bios options to leave USB power on when turned off (used to allow "wake with keyboard" functionality)
most modern PSU can deliver 5V when the PC is off, might need to turn on/off a setting in bios though regarding power save measurements s4 s5 etc
I would ask for IEC C13/C14 or 5-20R passthrough so that power could also be brute-forced without a managed PDU, and jumper wires for reset and power switches, to round out all the features of normal IPMI.
Those jumper wires are done well on the NanoKVM: they are in parallel with the stock power/reset/hdd-led wires so not only do you have power/reset control: even drive activity shows in the web console. Sometimes, especially during installs, it's nice to know the remote system is 'doing something' when it may otherwise appear to be idle or locked up.
So excited to see these hitting the market
My BLIkvm had a Chinese back door on it. I noticed when my (server) BIOS was randomly in Chinese on a server that was not even on. I removed all my BLIkvm immediately after, then reloaded an updated bios.
if that happened to me it would be in the trash by now
@@manitoba-op4jx I’m hoping someday I can reflash it with pi-kvm software (have to change the code as a few pins are different for the usb capture or something). I’m currently moving so it’s not a concern now.
@RetroandGoofy That's quite the accusation. You have a packet sniff of that, or are you just assuming because a Chinese product came with a Chinese language installed...???
@@CraftComputing sorry no proof, I just freaked out and unplugged everything. Might be because I bought it on AliExpress and used the SD card they shipped?
I have UniFi network with all the intrusion stuff set to max, and did not have a port open for the KVM. I do not have a date when it happened since that one server was off for a long period of time. I boot that server about every 6 months and backup my main server files to it as an offline backup.
I just used it local because I had a 42u rack in another room.
@CraftComputing I assume he means the server they had the BLIkvm connected to, not the BLIkvm bios itself.
Waiting on my Openterface Mini-KVM to ship once available. I like this device, but would prefer VGA functionality for my servers.
Aren't that completely different things (KVM-over-USB vs KVM-over-IP)?
@@salat yeah true.
I need a microsd or USB drive with MY ISO files in JetKVM
I would love one of these but for USB4/Thunderbolt, that can use the USB-C for inputs, video and power.
"It's just $69.....nice". Very nice indeed if it lives up to expectations.
Add $19 shipping cost
The piKVM v4 also has a "download ISO from URL" option.
Would have rather seen it powered via PoE than the USB port. It is much easier to add a PoE injector than to try and find a way to get the USB port to be always on if the device doesn't have one. Hopefully they consider this and make a version that is PoE powered.
Bloody perfect. Pledged!
Hi, thanks for the video. U are showing the KVM solution hooked up to a Intel Platform. Why not enable Intel AMT and use that for remote management? Has it less features than KVM?
What about covering the RJ11 features in the review? I'm guessing it will terminate to control pins for power/reset switches for the target motherboard
The RJ11 is supposed to support power/reset, as well as provide serial. Though I haven't seen the device yet. If they release it, I might cover it in a follow up video.
@@CraftComputing Looking forward to it!
A remote solution like this isn't very worth it unless it's got that function, and could very well be the dealbreaker for some admins/homelabbers :)
@@serbomontanien Agreed. Without remote power-on, this is, indeed, a deal breaker.
@@CraftComputing You should have mention some of the downsides that this KVM unit does not offer power control (on/off/cycle) to the machine -- a very very important part of IPMI.
Well-built device - OK, nice, but how practical are all the case shapes of the different devices?
In a rack, in a professional environment with multiple KVMs, I think only devices as plug-in cards or as 1U rack mounts make sense. Otherwise you end up attaching all the little boxes with Velcro.
For use outside of a rack, a cuboid shape with screw options on several sides might be a good idea so that the KVM can be attached in different ways, and it shouldn't be too small for that either. An alternative would be the plug-in card, again, but there has to be space for it.
This JetKVM looks so stylish, as if it should be used all the time instead of gathering dust behind the computer because the computer is remotely operated and controlled. It looks more like an alarm clock or status display.
69 Bucks sounds like a steal, but then they add almost 1/3 of the cost of the device as shipping on top, so its 89 bucks in the end. Still good if it delivers... Sadly, Kickstarter still wont allow anything else than a credit card so its out of the question.
At least you can chargeback if it ends up going south...
I am still waiting on my 5pk of RISC-V mini KVMs. I want to try them before I jump to the next one and hope this one comes to market soon for retail to get them faster and easier. I am glad that the market is coming out with cheaper alternatives and this one looks nice and sleek.
Wow, that is clever.
Just forgot to say it cannot be purchased now on the title, right?
Can you power on the system that is completely powered off? (e.g. cold start)?
If you can find a USB-C power and data splitter, then yes, you probably can.
Craft Computing very interesting! Question… is this something that’d work well for graphics editing on a remote Windows PC? I am about 95% converted to running Linux. There are just a handful of pesky Windows programs that I find hard to live without.
Cab you please explain more on captive VPN portal to self host the remote KVM solution?
This can't be used in any enterprise space, but it's a neat little solution for DIY folk.
Honestly I'd be fine with the ditching the screen if we could get PoE support instead.
Nice review
So you cant use the the JetKVM with a Server that has no GPU, can you?
Im running a server with an R9 3950X and a Tesla P40 - so completely headless...
there is no GPU on board
Correct. Video output is still a requirement on the server.
You could, however, get something like the ASRock Rack M.2 VGA card.
Too bad they didn't also support a USB display device with the other virtual devices, then it could also just be one USB cord and Ethernet since this also won't work with plain-old-VGA and none of my servers have HDMI.
im not sure if i miss it but can it be connected to a KVM switch? So one jetkvm for multiple machines?
Thanks for the breakdown! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Does this come with a mini HDMI cable? I don't have any HDMI cables with a mini-connector. To bad it couldn't use a standard HDMI connector or DisplayPort.
Do reviewers get the dc extension or the atx extension? Would be really interested to see those extensions.
Asking the important question: Where does one get that Star Trek-based wallpaper? :)
Let's say your computer doesn't have an always on USB port. What do you suggest to use for that so that it stays powered while the system is off?
I'd venture to guess a powered usb hub. Yep, more gadgets to hook up and more wires sticking out the back.
Good, but no VGA. On a traditional, as in expensive solution, adding a VGA to HDMI converter is nothing, however at this price point it adds quite a bit, both in cost and size (many converters are bigger than this)
So there is definitely a market for a native VGA version.
Mounting remote iso / floppy image or even usb drive was an option in DELL's iDRAC solution since forever, however in my experience it doesn't work very well ever a ssh socks proxy or VPN.
Can you power on a computer with it?
How does it power on the computer though?
I assume it turns on via wake on lan.
To do that, you need an add-on that attaches to the RJ11 extension port (according to their website)
That's the question I was wondering too.
Is there a Country of Origin mentioned anywhere on the product or box?
I know it would change the size, but it's really too bad that the video port is mini HDMI, and not full sized HDMI.
Oohhh, looks gooooood!
what if i don't have usb ports that are powered all the time? some option to use an external power adapter or something?
For the size I understand the mini hdmi but that connector sucks
It's not Micro-HDMI, so give them some credit.
@@CraftComputing true that is much worse.
Seem not yet be power on the system by bottom like pikvm?
It looks like it only works if the computer is powered on, no option to issue a power on/off.
how do you control the power switch / reset via usb?
Great option but if you need the be able to hard power down the PC or hard reset it, this devices will not be possible as it has no access to the power and reset headers on the board
Why does it need a touch screen?
What Federation Starship is that?
Star Trek Online Jupiter Class.
Devices like this need POE, it would just make life so much better!
This or nano KVM risc cpu?
The JetKVM feels a bit more fleshed out. Fit and finish quality isn't even compareable.
I also prefer the JetKVM over the NanoKVM, mainly due to the open-source software. NanoKVM hasn't indicated if they'll open up their OS yet, even after setting some sales goals.
github.com/sipeed/NanoKVM/issues/1
Nice
whats the point if I cant even turn on the PC remotely???
What if i have more than one server?!
Vga solution, usb c not on all pc, remote power on missing
Would have been nice to not use mini HDMI
It’s perfect. Literally perfect. Now I have a real question though, will it have a rack mount?
Google authentication for bare metal access?
Google for LOCAL access? Absolutely not. They utilize Google auth API for WebRTC function (web relay).
why HDMI... why no VGA...
POE.
I'd like it to be powered by POE!
That's what I was thinking.
Kickstarter… no thanks, too much dissapointments. You are angel investor there but your reward is not proportional to risk since way too many projects do not deliver to promise.