I’m +1000km in on my 801 now and I love it. Traded in my 401 for it. The 801 really inspires active riding and feels a lot more premium than the 401 or the 790. The suspension and engine are great and the riding position is perfect for me.
motobob... you are one of the few i subscribe to because i respect your output. but i am a 790 duke owner, and the way you influencers ignore the elephant in the room is quite tragic really..... would you care to comment please
@@Surpriseify Yes, poison from comments like yours. Inability to DIY? KTM's are really easy to work on. If that's an issue, nooone would buy japanese. All those bad comments on KTM are just that. Bad comments.
@@johnDukemaster LOL Try to get a workshopmanual on a 890 Or get the special tools needed, diagnostics etc My V-Strom is A: Not a buttercrank B: bombproof C: not prone to MASSIVE and catastrophic electrical/mechanical failures D: EXTREMELY easy to DIY Saying moderen KTM’s are easy for normal people to work on makes me wonder if you are a KTM bot.
Coober posted a failed cam on the brand new 990 Duke - KTM have lost the plot. I was a KTM fan boy and a proud 890 owner, now I can't wait to get rid of it, but 1st need to get it running again :(
@@AdvGramps This sadly seems to be a problem that won't go away and a deal breaker for me on the several very nice bikes that use the KTM P-twin platform. If I want a KTM/Husqvarna the 390/401 are the only ones I'd consider spending my money on!
@@richardwarsinske7064 that is the sad reality and KTM seems to think it'll go away if they apply the ostrich approach and stick their heads in the ground.
@@AdvGramps Before I asked the question I allready knew that they did not fix the problem on the existing 790 and 890 platforms hahahah. Kinda sad to hear that the new 990 platform is allready pleagued by problems and it has nog even been out for 6 months. Do you have a link to the article of the failed camshaft? I think that it is extra sad that absolutely no moto vlogger reports about the reliability of certain brands, I get that they are afraid to lose the ability to get a press bike, but this needs to be reported on, lots of people are having this problem.
@@yohanyonsson It's worse? cause they are not doing what A good company would do and recall effected engines. Look at Toyota, im sure it hurt to recall them truck engines but it was the right thing to do.
@@paulb_614 I agree, but it’s not that common of an issue as internet is making you believe. My local dealer and mechanic sells and services a lot of KTMs and according to them it’s not common. They sell other brands as well
The Mt60RS is a supermoto tyre Rob, what they were designed for, heat up in dry, superb good wet compound and can deal with a bit of slime and gravel, def not like the flat tracker tyres on market. Got them on my XSR700xt. Downside is they wear quick.
@@yohanyonsson 10k !? If the bike has torque, that tire has no chance! The rs 60 is way to soft for me and the most riders. The negative profile, is also not the best grip, better street tire!
@@Rainan8 Yes, he did 10k on a Ducati Scrambler. I’ve only ridden 1000km so far, depending on how far it gets, I might swap it for something more road orientated.
Nice bike Rob but for the price a tough sell getting the Duke motor from 2 gen ago, assume the 790 motor made in China by CF Moto alongside the 790 KTM etc, hmm, a shame too then didn't go more into the offroad ability,
Thank you for all the comments that addresses the cam issues. It is a definite deal breaker for me as well. Too bad the reviewer failed to mention. Good news is the 390/401 are still viable options. I’m actually considering the svartpilen 801 custom. I hope that model cams are ok.
I'll definitely be demoing this bike and the Vitpilen 801 when it comes out. I've always been a fan of the pilens but HATE single cylinder engines. This is definitely up my alley.
Visually speaking it's definitely growing on me. Not as striking as the Vitpilen 701 but better looking than the Svartpilen 701. I wish the seat lined up better with the tank though, it just doesn't flow like the 701s do. The radiator is a bit of a miss too, as is the lackluster belly pan. Engine wise? I really wish they'd have gone with the 890 engine, I'd have been more tempted to go from my Vitpilen 701 to a Vitpilen 901 than the Svartpilen 801. I'm happy it's getting good reviews though and I really hope it translates to people actually buying it this time. As far as living with the 701 is concerned, my time with mine was incredible. The vibes are honestly very minimal (mine was a 2018) and the complaints about it being uncomfortable were wildly exaggerated in my opinion. The clip-ons were nothing compared to your average sport bike and the seat was fine enough that in my many 100+ mile rides my biggest complaint was getting blown around on the highway, which is something my Street Triple RS and every naked I've ridden shares. I hope it's a success and we get to see a Vitpilen (please be a 901!) soon.
Thank you for all the comments that addresses the cam issues. It is a definite deal breaker for me as well. Too bad the reviewer failed to mention. Good news is the 390/401 are still viable options.
Nice video!! Are you planning to test the CFMoto 800NK too? they also share the same motor and if you get your hands on the "Advanced" version has way more tech, I got it couple of months back and I absolutely love it, Anyway I would love to hear how it compares with the 790 Duke and the Svartpilen 801 since they share things together.
I have an 800nk advanced. 10k miles in 4 months. Luckily I have unlimited mile warranty on my bike should I run into cheese cams. The 800nk is probably very close to the 801 in terms of riding ergos but for far less money.
Finally review of the best bike to come out this year, love it. Can't wait to get mine ❤❤❤❤. Keep up with great work bringing us videos, podcasts and reviews 😊😊
I like the looks and that it's more refined than the duke 790. I don't like the price but I'd still probably get it and add the cruise control and dynamic pack on there. Has ktm issued an update on the cam issues they have been having in these motors tho?
My dealer told me they have had zero cam shaft issues and they sell/service a lot of KTMs and Husky’s. The mechanic said they used to have some issues with pistons but that has been sorted. Leaks are still quite common though. With a 4 year warranty and an insurance that covers 80000km I don’t worry too much.
@@yohanyonsson That's one dealer. The point here is that too many people report that problem. I know bad news spreads like fire and people only report bad news. But if one or two people have that problem, it's a user's fault, because they did the oil change wrong, used wrong oil or whatever, or just had bad luck. But with that many people reporting it, you can't say that something that should last the engine's life fails that often.
A lot of people still don’t want to believe this. They say things like "well that can happen to a hand full of bike…" "ktm reliability is far better than it was in the past…" bla bla bla😂 the only 2 engines I would buy from ktm are the 690 and 1290.
@@dennis.lc8407I agree, as an owner of many KTMs of the older 950/990 type I wouldn’t buy any of them now. I did try anew gen 3 1290 SDR but had lots of electronic issues that the dealer didn’t do very well to fix
Svartpilen means Black arrow in Swedish. Vitpilen means White arrow. With a colour in the name, you have limited choices for the actual colour of the bike 😃
The 801 has a lot better specs than the 660. 25hp more, 10kg less, better electronics and a lot better suspension. I also chose between these two models and I don’t regret buying the 801. It’s a crazy fun bike. Larger than the 660 as well
i wish it had a 19" front wheel. i know, less sporty, but it would fit the scrambler style more and with a vitpilen 801 on the horizon, it would create a bigger gap between those two
All the street Qvarnas look great! But, like KTM and BMW, I won't touch them. I like to be able to ride whenever I feel like it, not only when the bike isn't in the shop. In that category, I'd not hesitate to head to the Yamaha dealer and just enjoy.
As someone who dailies the older 701, trust me no one gets tired of that single cylinder. I've owned many bikes and currently own a few, and NO other bike has ever gotten so many unsolicited offers to purchase, and no other bike have I held onto more certainly. I just can't get anything comparable to replace it. I don't want a sewing machine, I own a BMW for that
I saw it in the flesh 2 weeks ago. Looks better than in video . The fuel tank shell feels and sounds really plasticky though. A bit dispointed on this side
Great commercial, but I lost the interest, I decided for quality, Yamaha mt09 24 for 11200€! Husqvarna 801 10900k€ with dynamic pack 11300k€! Mt09 has 3 cylinder, 119 hp, free full navigation, quick shifter and no camshaft problems 😉
I have to wonder if these Husqvarnas have the same electrical gremlins that KTM are known for ? Or perhaps these are a cheaper version of KTM sketchy quality ? I can appreciate the technology but if the bike won't start because some sensor stopped working I won't be happy.
I love the look of the bike, but it is a baby copy of a Honda CB1000R (Neo Retro)... I would like to see them back to back on test...with the same tyres...🏍😎
Interesting. It definitely seems a bit ... chunkier and more relaxed than the 701. I don't know if I agree with the conclusion that 701 riders would like it if they just want something less vibey. Like if I were to describe my Vit 701, I'd say it's nimble and tips over into a corner aggressively and is an absolute wheelie loving hooligan--while being a pain in the ass to leverage the clip-ons in the parking lot doing slow figure 8s. Whereas this seems a bit more geared towards the commuter and--lazy--by comparison--especially compared to the KTM bike it's based on, biased in a different direction compared to the 701's take on the 690. Which isn't a bad thing, it's just a different bike and a different approach to a bike. I'll keep my stupid hooligan 701.
The footage quality is poor, with excessive contrast and blown-out highlights. Looks like it was shot in 2010 and it is 1080P only. And how about the camshafts on that engine?
@@SafaDave 401 is not the same as the 790/890/801/901 these engines are shit, the eat camshatfs, cheap and soft materials, you saved yourself alot of money and pain by not buying it.... buy a mt09 or a street triple xD.. hell even mv agusta is a safer bet than this cheese engine.
Sweet looking bike. Time will tell if it’s a Cam Eating Monster like the rest of the KTM/Husky’s…..Buy an XSR900. It’s faster and proven to be as reliable as a Toyota.
I dunno, there is something about the design of this family that has the whiff of the modern office photocopier and attendant lack of charisma about them. Not for me, but hey ho. IMHO of course.
that sucks, having to pay for a computer setting. like the old ibm scam, they flick a switch and you're upgraded to a bugger machine. why are manufacturers so greedy?
Aint no cyber retro scrambler complete without some tubeless cross spokes and some bar end mirrors . And NGL I would give this the blue and white colour treatment from 2021 vitpilen 701 !. That matte black kinda boring ngl
The more I look at the modern bikes, the easier it is to pick Royal Enfield. Royal Enfield appears to be the only company that knows how to make a beautiful motorcycle. Sharp triangles, squares, wedges, hard edges, sharp angles, and stubby sawed off mufflers, are not beautiful. This has to be the worst era in motorcycling history, as most modern bikes in 2024 are nearly as ugly as the 1980's "Universal Japanese Motorcycles." It's a mystery why the motorcycle companies don't actually ask consumers what looks good, before they send out a monstrosity. Who decided that the Transalp 750 or Tuareg 660 should have those horrendous front headlight assemblies? Who is designing the bikes at Yamaha, are they even Human? Who designed the "X" headlight on the BMW GS1300, and why are they still employed? Why are the Africa Twin, the Ducati Desert X, and the Triumph Tiger, the only good looking large capacity ADV bikes?
Shouldn't it be an 802 since it has 2 cylinders? I'll be interested to see the Vitpilen when it comes out. Maybe we can get the 990 version of the Vitpilen for some extra fun.
Nice enough bike, I guess, but I don’t see why I’d get rid of my Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory and then pay more money to replace it with a dolled up KTM. I’d rather go for an XSR900.
Motobob,don’t respond to all these commenters who are trying to shame you for not mentioning supposed issues with this bike’s engine. These are not mechanics. These are not current KTM owners who have personally had this problem. These are not even “friend of a friend” stories. These are people who know nothing besides what they read online. And they probably can’t even change a taillight without taking their bike to the dealer. And no, I don’t have a KTM or even like the brand.
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I loved how the old ones looked. They should have kept the looks relatively the same
This design looks off also because of the shorter seat height
Yes, 701 looked like a bike from future.
They should've kept the old design with this new engine then it woul'dve been perfect and instabuy
I’m +1000km in on my 801 now and I love it. Traded in my 401 for it. The 801 really inspires active riding and feels a lot more premium than the 401 or the 790. The suspension and engine are great and the riding position is perfect for me.
The cams depreciate faster than the value. And that is something for a ktm
You have a typo on the title "Svarptilen"
Username checks out 😂
Thanks for the heads up! It's a word that just doesn't roll off the keyboard that naturally... 😂
motobob... you are one of the few i subscribe to because i respect your output. but i am a 790 duke owner, and the way you influencers ignore the elephant in the room is quite tragic really..... would you care to comment please
The horrific reliabilty?
the inablity to DYI?
KTM's TERRIBLE customer support?
So much poision lol
Well said sir!
@@Surpriseify Yes, poison from comments like yours. Inability to DIY? KTM's are really easy to work on. If that's an issue, nooone would buy japanese. All those bad comments on KTM are just that. Bad comments.
@@johnDukemaster LOL
Try to get a workshopmanual on a 890
Or get the special tools needed, diagnostics etc
My V-Strom is
A: Not a buttercrank
B: bombproof
C: not prone to MASSIVE and catastrophic electrical/mechanical failures
D: EXTREMELY easy to DIY
Saying moderen KTM’s are easy for normal people to work on makes me wonder if you are a KTM bot.
@@Surpriseify Glad you like your bike.
No, I'm not. Just skilled I suppose! Have a nice weekend!
Did they fix the camshaft problems in this new engine?
Doubt it
Coober posted a failed cam on the brand new 990 Duke - KTM have lost the plot. I was a KTM fan boy and a proud 890 owner, now I can't wait to get rid of it, but 1st need to get it running again :(
@@AdvGramps This sadly seems to be a problem that won't go away and a deal breaker for me on the several very nice bikes that use the KTM P-twin platform. If I want a KTM/Husqvarna the 390/401 are the only ones I'd consider spending my money on!
@@richardwarsinske7064 that is the sad reality and KTM seems to think it'll go away if they apply the ostrich approach and stick their heads in the ground.
@@AdvGramps Before I asked the question I allready knew that they did not fix the problem on the existing 790 and 890 platforms hahahah.
Kinda sad to hear that the new 990 platform is allready pleagued by problems and it has nog even been out for 6 months. Do you have a link to the article of the failed camshaft?
I think that it is extra sad that absolutely no moto vlogger reports about the reliability of certain brands, I get that they are afraid to lose the ability to get a press bike, but this needs to be reported on, lots of people are having this problem.
I would get this but the camshaft issue makes it a hard no. Run away until they update
It’s the same people over and over commenting the camshaft issue. The amount of negativity publicity isn’t proportionate to the issues
@@yohanyonsson It's worse? cause they are not doing what A good company would do and recall effected engines. Look at Toyota, im sure it hurt to recall them truck engines but it was the right thing to do.
@@paulb_614 I agree, but it’s not that common of an issue as internet is making you believe. My local dealer and mechanic sells and services a lot of KTMs and according to them it’s not common. They sell other brands as well
@@paulb_614 So they are not doing recall if the bike is under warranty? The stories I’ve read are from people who serviced the bike themselves
They still have not fixed the camshafts. The LC8c equipped bikes are PLAGUED with this problem. MENTION IT
The Mt60RS is a supermoto tyre Rob, what they were designed for, heat up in dry, superb good wet compound and can deal with a bit of slime and gravel, def not like the flat tracker tyres on market. Got them on my XSR700xt. Downside is they wear quick.
Who is Rob?
Max 4000 Kilometer
@@Rainan8depends on the rider and the ground traveled. My friend got 10000km out of his rear tyre
@@yohanyonsson 10k !? If the bike has torque, that tire has no chance!
The rs 60 is way to soft for me and the most riders.
The negative profile, is also not the best grip, better street tire!
@@Rainan8 Yes, he did 10k on a Ducati Scrambler. I’ve only ridden 1000km so far, depending on how far it gets, I might swap it for something more road orientated.
Nice bike Rob but for the price a tough sell getting the Duke motor from 2 gen ago, assume the 790 motor made in China by CF Moto alongside the 790 KTM etc, hmm, a shame too then didn't go more into the offroad ability,
Love the styling! It offers a unique look for those of us who don't like our bikes "orange and pointy". Thanks for the review!.
7:52 look it even leaks oil onto your brake disc.
Looks fantastic but…those cheesy cams are sure to kill that “stone bucket” of an engine pretty fast.
Bike bit starts @2:05 - skip the ads.
My morning toasts are harder than these camshafts
Ouch hahahah
svart401 was my first bike, so I got a little something with the brand, but even, with that pricing, I say the xsr900 is a more tempting option
Thank you for all the comments that addresses the cam issues. It is a definite deal breaker for me as well. Too bad the reviewer failed to mention. Good news is the 390/401 are still viable options. I’m actually considering the svartpilen 801 custom. I hope that model cams are ok.
Did they ever get the soft valve train sorted on this bike?
no
are the camshafts the updated cheese ones?
I would be keen to see a comparison with something like the Benelli Leoncino 800 or the Trail version.
I'll definitely be demoing this bike and the Vitpilen 801 when it comes out. I've always been a fan of the pilens but HATE single cylinder engines. This is definitely up my alley.
Visually speaking it's definitely growing on me. Not as striking as the Vitpilen 701 but better looking than the Svartpilen 701. I wish the seat lined up better with the tank though, it just doesn't flow like the 701s do. The radiator is a bit of a miss too, as is the lackluster belly pan. Engine wise? I really wish they'd have gone with the 890 engine, I'd have been more tempted to go from my Vitpilen 701 to a Vitpilen 901 than the Svartpilen 801.
I'm happy it's getting good reviews though and I really hope it translates to people actually buying it this time. As far as living with the 701 is concerned, my time with mine was incredible. The vibes are honestly very minimal (mine was a 2018) and the complaints about it being uncomfortable were wildly exaggerated in my opinion. The clip-ons were nothing compared to your average sport bike and the seat was fine enough that in my many 100+ mile rides my biggest complaint was getting blown around on the highway, which is something my Street Triple RS and every naked I've ridden shares.
I hope it's a success and we get to see a Vitpilen (please be a 901!) soon.
Thank you for all the comments that addresses the cam issues. It is a definite deal breaker for me as well. Too bad the reviewer failed to mention. Good news is the 390/401 are still viable options.
Dear MotoBob excellent review you have made 😊
Great Job!
Like to your channel from Ukraine!
Hope they fixed camshaft problem with those ones
Well done mr Bob! Nice looking bike indeed.
This one seems to be closer to a "790R" with the track (dynamic) mode on there.
Nice video!! Are you planning to test the CFMoto 800NK too? they also share the same motor and if you get your hands on the "Advanced" version has way more tech, I got it couple of months back and I absolutely love it, Anyway I would love to hear how it compares with the 790 Duke and the Svartpilen 801 since they share things together.
800NK is a great bike and much more competitively priced. Also has that 8” touchscreen with Apple Car Play. Looks aren’t for everyone though.
I have an 800nk advanced. 10k miles in 4 months. Luckily I have unlimited mile warranty on my bike should I run into cheese cams.
The 800nk is probably very close to the 801 in terms of riding ergos but for far less money.
Svartpilen 1390
Yeah yeah yeah….even Rocket 3 engine will go…..pointless engines for normal roads
Finally someone who gets it!
That Brabus version is kinda that
It would be the 1401.
Finally review of the best bike to come out this year, love it. Can't wait to get mine ❤❤❤❤.
Keep up with great work bringing us videos, podcasts and reviews 😊😊
There’s a cb1100 vibes on this bike.
I like the looks and that it's more refined than the duke 790. I don't like the price but I'd still probably get it and add the cruise control and dynamic pack on there. Has ktm issued an update on the cam issues they have been having in these motors tho?
0:08... I chose reliability, If you guys haven't notice, theres a petition going for KTM motors.
My local dealer tells me the cams are fixed as of 2023 onwards.. can anyone confirm?
It's a shot in the dark. KTM and Husqvarna had not made any comment about the cams. Ask your dealer how he knows. I doubt it
My dealer told me they have had zero cam shaft issues and they sell/service a lot of KTMs and Husky’s. The mechanic said they used to have some issues with pistons but that has been sorted. Leaks are still quite common though.
With a 4 year warranty and an insurance that covers 80000km I don’t worry too much.
@@yohanyonsson That's one dealer. The point here is that too many people report that problem. I know bad news spreads like fire and people only report bad news. But if one or two people have that problem, it's a user's fault, because they did the oil change wrong, used wrong oil or whatever, or just had bad luck. But with that many people reporting it, you can't say that something that should last the engine's life fails that often.
@@lifepolicy”That many”. Mostly the same 3 people commenting everywhere, and others echoing their comments.
@@yohanyonsson No. Yet alone in the German-speaking forum, there are way more than your "mostly the same 3-4" on the first few pages.
camshafts are weak on all 790, 890, 901, 801 engines. dont buy it. why are you not saying anything about this bob? no more press bikes?? xD
A lot of people still don’t want to believe this. They say things like "well that can happen to a hand full of bike…" "ktm reliability is far better than it was in the past…" bla bla bla😂 the only 2 engines I would buy from ktm are the 690 and 1290.
@@dennis.lc8407 I have a 990 v twin..would not trade out for any new KTM engine I think 😅🙈
@@dennis.lc8407I agree, as an owner of many KTMs of the older 950/990 type I wouldn’t buy any of them now. I did try anew gen 3 1290 SDR but had lots of electronic issues that the dealer didn’t do very well to fix
Has this channel ever made a remotely negative review?
@@MisterDillPickle never 🙈
KTM 790? Hope the fixed the valve issues
Thanks Rob
They missed the pricing again. 701s didn't sell well until the fire-sale, hope this won't be a repeat.
el video es de husqvarna o de dji?
Thank you for the review
The high muffler looks good. I'd like to see more bikes doing that. I wonder why they don't make a White Pilen ?
Svartpilen means Black arrow in Swedish. Vitpilen means White arrow. With a colour in the name, you have limited choices for the actual colour of the bike 😃
Looks so modern and i can’t take my eyes off 🙈 the design
Cool to drive past whilst you were filming this but sorry for interrupting!
I’d love you to compare the CF MOTO 800 NK advance to the mix
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Are these offroadable or is the scrambler styling just that a style
This one or the Triumph Trident 660? What would you recommend and why? Which will be the better bike for around town and on country side roads?
Trident. This one will eat it's camshafts and KTM/Husqvarna will not help you... Why not a street triple?
@@sverremoe4087 I don't like the look of the street triple.
The 801 has a lot better specs than the 660. 25hp more, 10kg less, better electronics and a lot better suspension. I also chose between these two models and I don’t regret buying the 801. It’s a crazy fun bike. Larger than the 660 as well
i wish it had a 19" front wheel. i know, less sporty, but it would fit the scrambler style more and with a vitpilen 801 on the horizon, it would create a bigger gap between those two
Why dont you like mt 60 rs tyres??
how do you feel about the svart 401 compared to the speed 400?
Is R1 M available in europe
I believe the camshaft supplier for these LC8C engines is Cadbury....
All the street Qvarnas look great! But, like KTM and BMW, I won't touch them. I like to be able to ride whenever I feel like it, not only when the bike isn't in the shop. In that category, I'd not hesitate to head to the Yamaha dealer and just enjoy.
As someone who dailies the older 701, trust me no one gets tired of that single cylinder. I've owned many bikes and currently own a few, and NO other bike has ever gotten so many unsolicited offers to purchase, and no other bike have I held onto more certainly. I just can't get anything comparable to replace it. I don't want a sewing machine, I own a BMW for that
the 701 looks way better
I wonder if it’s much better than the nk800
For 5.7 do i got my feet flat ?
I saw it in the flesh 2 weeks ago. Looks better than in video . The fuel tank shell feels and sounds really plasticky though. A bit dispointed on this side
Hey MOTOBOB! Nice review. is the 801 built in China like the 790? thanks
Noice ktm 790 scrambler. Would like to see the vitpilen😮
Great commercial, but I lost the interest, I decided for quality, Yamaha mt09 24 for 11200€!
Husqvarna 801 10900k€ with dynamic pack 11300k€!
Mt09 has 3 cylinder, 119 hp, free full navigation, quick shifter and no camshaft problems 😉
Why not just buy a used F800R with neo-retro design, parallel twin fun riding with 3.8 l/100km??
doesn't look as good though...
XSR 900 would be an better option for 'retro'
20hp less and 20kg more.
I have to wonder if these Husqvarnas have the same electrical gremlins that KTM are known for ? Or perhaps these are a cheaper version of KTM sketchy quality ? I can appreciate the technology but if the bike won't start because some sensor stopped working I won't be happy.
It sure looks good, but unfortunately it has a heart disease known as KTM cheese cams😅❤
video starts at 2:01
I love the look of the bike, but it is a baby copy of a Honda CB1000R (Neo Retro)...
I would like to see them back to back on test...with the same tyres...🏍😎
Interesting. It definitely seems a bit ... chunkier and more relaxed than the 701. I don't know if I agree with the conclusion that 701 riders would like it if they just want something less vibey.
Like if I were to describe my Vit 701, I'd say it's nimble and tips over into a corner aggressively and is an absolute wheelie loving hooligan--while being a pain in the ass to leverage the clip-ons in the parking lot doing slow figure 8s. Whereas this seems a bit more geared towards the commuter and--lazy--by comparison--especially compared to the KTM bike it's based on, biased in a different direction compared to the 701's take on the 690.
Which isn't a bad thing, it's just a different bike and a different approach to a bike.
I'll keep my stupid hooligan 701.
Where 401 review
What happened to the reviews of the Svartpilen 401, did that breakdown as well? 😂
The footage quality is poor, with excessive contrast and blown-out highlights. Looks like it was shot in 2010 and it is 1080P only. And how about the camshafts on that engine?
Isn’t that 790 Engine made in China?
I’m gutted. I had cancel my order 6 weeks ago but I did buy my first house today so now I have a garage to put the bike when I order one next season.
Saved yourself money. This motor has been a time bomb since introduction in 2018 😂
@@Spidey890R been riding my 401 since 2020. Love it.
@@SafaDave 401 is not the same as the 790/890/801/901 these engines are shit, the eat camshatfs, cheap and soft materials, you saved yourself alot of money and pain by not buying it.... buy a mt09 or a street triple xD.. hell even mv agusta is a safer bet than this cheese engine.
get yourself a XSR900 instead
If they didn't fix the camshaft issue yet, I would stay FAR away from this bike.
Sweet looking bike. Time will tell if it’s a Cam Eating Monster like the rest of the KTM/Husky’s…..Buy an XSR900. It’s faster and proven to be as reliable as a Toyota.
I dunno, there is something about the design of this family that has the whiff of the modern office photocopier and attendant lack of charisma about them. Not for me, but hey ho. IMHO of course.
that sucks, having to pay for a computer setting. like the old ibm scam, they flick a switch and you're upgraded to a bugger machine. why are manufacturers so greedy?
Is it any more reliable than the KTM version? Indeed does Husqvarna somehow manage to mitigate the unreliability of KTM generally?
The cams are ok for the 2024 models or they continued the bullshit that we all are seeing um the 890/790/901 models???
its ktm so its probably the same xD
It’s a nice bike. But It’ll fail to sell like the 701 version did and get reduced to sub 9k.
That camshaft won't last long 🤣
Aint no cyber retro scrambler complete without some tubeless cross spokes and some bar end mirrors . And NGL I would give this the blue and white colour treatment from 2021 vitpilen 701 !. That matte black kinda boring ngl
chocolate camshafts and mickeymouse warrenty, avoid at all costs.
Id call the style Neo-Retro
The more I look at the modern bikes, the easier it is to pick Royal Enfield. Royal Enfield appears to be the only company that knows how to make a beautiful motorcycle.
Sharp triangles, squares, wedges, hard edges, sharp angles, and stubby sawed off mufflers, are not beautiful. This has to be the worst era in motorcycling history, as most modern bikes in 2024 are nearly as ugly as the 1980's "Universal Japanese Motorcycles."
It's a mystery why the motorcycle companies don't actually ask consumers what looks good, before they send out a monstrosity. Who decided that the Transalp 750 or Tuareg 660 should have those horrendous front headlight assemblies?
Who is designing the bikes at Yamaha, are they even Human? Who designed the "X" headlight on the BMW GS1300, and why are they still employed? Why are the Africa Twin, the Ducati Desert X, and the Triumph Tiger, the only good looking large capacity ADV bikes?
Such a disappointment this isn't fully made in Europe. The motor puts it in the no go zone for me.
Even if it was, it's not like it widve been better quality. Reliability is always an issue with Europeans.
@@asifkhattak608 I didn't say anything about quality.
Shouldn't it be an 802 since it has 2 cylinders?
I'll be interested to see the Vitpilen when it comes out. Maybe we can get the 990 version of the Vitpilen for some extra fun.
Ugly, expensive and unreliable.
I believe Ducati Scrabler (desert sled) is a better option for the money
Too slow too boring
Nice enough bike, I guess, but I don’t see why I’d get rid of my Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory and then pay more money to replace it with a dolled up KTM. I’d rather go for an XSR900.
are you kiddin? mt60rs are f**kin good tyres if you know what they are for. Those you mentioned scenarios are perfect for these tyres..
this one looks like a painted duke ...
like the duke had a say in how the HSQ should look.
Looks like a Honda CB1000R, down to the bronze gear cover.
Tbh if they had of made an exact copy of the 401 in the 801 I would of bought it but it looks nowhere near as good as the 401
Cams
Enough comments on the cam...for me the look of it just hurts the eyes
The 701 you reviewed couple of years ago looks way better than this one.
Watch out for the cheese camshafts everyone! Don't buy them. There are already 990 engines starting to have problems as well!
Motobob,don’t respond to all these commenters who are trying to shame you for not mentioning supposed issues with this bike’s engine. These are not mechanics. These are not current KTM owners who have personally had this problem. These are not even “friend of a friend” stories. These are people who know nothing besides what they read online. And they probably can’t even change a taillight without taking their bike to the dealer. And no, I don’t have a KTM or even like the brand.
Ahh yes because being critical to a product that is well known to be bad while manufacturer turns a blind eye is a no no 🙈 how do you figure?
Well said. So many keyboard warriors who sees themselfes as experts. And commenting negative makes them feel like experts.
hoping for the New Nuda