Not really - I have an Explorer 2, thoughest watch there is. Love Tudor but Rolex is still tied to its tool heritage. You can wear a president in a gurrelia campaign (che did it), no holy trinity watch would survive that.
I buy and wear Tudor because 1. I won't get robbed for wearing a Tudor. 2. I cannot buy a Rolex in at an AD. 3. I can buy a Tudor at an AD. 4. I like Tudor watches. In random order.
Hans Wilsdorf openly admitted the original mission of Tudor was to give the watch buyer the promise of Rolex precision and reliability more widespread ensuring that luxury wasn't just an experience for the few but a privilege accessible to many. YES! Tudor is a poor man's Rolex! What's wrong with that?
Tudor is the OFFICIAL copy of Rolex. They have different markets, most people that have Tudor and Rolex in their collection I bet you the Tudor is their beater
When Tudor was still making Submariners, you probably could have said it was the official copy of Rolex. Now that’s an oversimplification of the brand’s identity. You make a good point though about each brand having different markets. Why do you say that? Is that how you treat your Tudor?
Most people own Rolex to feed their ego and follow what's trendy. They overlook all the other options out there. I would never engage a Rolex wearing guy on the streets because their enthusiasm are probably limited to just Rolex.
Rolex=Steph Curry Tudor=Seth Curry. Tudors only claim to fame is being a sister company to rolex. Zenith chonomaster, omega speedmaster, and the Cartier santos are all rich in history and tell their own story. Nothing wrong with the Tudor brand they make nice watches but unfortunately it lives in the rolex shadow.
imo its like toyota and lexus. same parent company, might even have overlapping parts but different connotations associated with the brands. I'm not a dive watch fan so Tudor just doesn't have pieces that I would enjoy personally and the only rolex pieces I like are the classic collections such as the OP, datejust and day date (way too much to spend on a watch for me)
I like the way you express yourself! I think I mostly agree with you. I do think that people are trying to signal something different with each brand though. The whole world knows Rolex as a brand and being able to associate with a brand that is known worldwide is different than associating with a brand that is respected by watch aficionados but isn’t nearly as well known. Regardless I really appreciate watching a new channel. I am a new channel also and I like your style! Subbed!
Only the Rolex cult would call it that. The new metas certification means a lot more to many people than whatever Rolex themselves do. Rolex are on a bringing point of a overflooded marketplace. The snobs saying Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex will find out soon. Oh and Tudor is beloved, Rolex not so much anymore in brand perception. Times are changing.
I think tudor being a poor man's rolex is a half truth at best. Maybe for models in the black bay line an argument for that could be made since most of the black bay line of watches draw inspiration from older rolex models, regular bb has aluminum bezels which is similar to the older subs, and also the panda bb chrono looking like daytona. However their specs are way better than those vintage watches due to being newer. How they wear and look on the wrist is also drastically different from a rolex imo. They're really not the same. Pelagos line with titanium looks like a sub but wears way lighter. BB are usually thicker than sub and has aluminum bezel. BB chrono is way thicker and chunkier than a daytona. Tudor is releasing thinner watches and improving their bracelets in recent years. They've given us the BB54 and this year there's the BB 58 gmt, and the t fit jubilee is better functionally better than any rolex jubilee that's out right now, they're definitely way ahead of rolex when it comes to innovation imo.
Real Watch enthusiast respect tudor and buy the brand. It’s a fantastic watch on its own. I own both as well and love that every day aspects of a tutor. I also IWC and Panerai. I rotate them all, but happened to think two door is the best value in Automatic watches in the industry
Ever since I wear a Tudor people just keep on telling me it’s a poors man rolex but in my own opinion since 1998 Tudor has its own DNA… rolex has it own appeal to the market…. Oh and by the way please get a p01 Tudor you will love that beast of a watch…. I agreed with this video a lot…. ❤❤❤ I hate people judging that Tudor is a poor’s man rolex… I also own a rolex Tudor seiko patek and omega…. Casio and seiko also… plus a little tag and citizen now 😝
I own three Rolex’s and five Tudors. Each have their own reason for being in my collection. I have other Swiss models as well and wear them seasonally as I feel the need or desire. Each watch has its own purpose and strength.
I only agree with half your statement. Tudor is not for poor people. But Rolex is neither pathetic nor disrespectful. I’ve had good experiences at my authorized dealer, and never felt disrespected by them.
It more shows that your dealer is a decent person than Rolex being a decent brand. For me, the most disgusting practice they have today is to fuel the perception of luxurious exclusivity while boasting millions of watches sold every year. It's sad, because Rolex is a brand with rich History and lots of magnificent vintage watches.
I don't own a Rolex or a Tudor, I could afford either, I don't drive a Mercedes or a Porsche and the same reason applies I think some or watches/cars are pretty, technically interesting and mechanically well made..... BUT there are others makes that are equally if not better. I wouldn't drive a Bentley if I occasionally had to park in a public car park, I wouldn't wear a Patek Philippe if I was occasionally out late at night .... However the main reason is: these brands have a prestige and have a following based upon the marketing.... Buy and wear what you like and do it for you.
I bought a MN-FXD not because I couldn’t afford but because I wanted the same tool watch tough enough for the Commando Hubert. It’s completely matte finished and has a monobloc case with strap bars. I sold my Submariner in 2020 because after a year of ownership, I didn’t bond with it. The white gold surrounds made it look as tarted up as the 114270 Explorer that I also sold. I’m not knowing Rolex because the 3130 movement was built like a tank and never failed me. The FXD is just a more pure tool watch and I won’t have to worry about some two-bit thug who either wants to flex or make money stealing my watch. Always thought dudes into jewelery were sus.
I’m sorry you haven’t bonded with your sub, but I hope you’re enjoying your FXD. I still love my sub a lot but it has a totally different personality compared to my Pelagos 39
@@WornDownCrown the 39 was too fancy because of that sunburst dial and treatment on the bezel. The MN-FXD was the exact watch I was looking for. Aesthetically, I did like how that blue hue goes with the gray titanium. I can really see combat swimmers using this.
If you own a Rolex, why buy a Tudor when they both have very similar design DNA and functions? Is it because of its social media hype? At Tudor price point, there's plenty of alternative options to add variety to your watch collection. Trying to understand the pysche of collector who own watches from both brands. I suspect that its just Rolex fanboy mentality, leading them to gravitate towards any timepieces released by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. 😆
Your point is true, I have a 5711 here, and two Royal Oaks, and a Tudor Black Bay Heritage, and 3 Rolex Submariners, and a Panerai, and a Datejust and a Seamaster. I still like the Tudor.
I just saw your other comment about the sub and royal oak being your beaters. Not gonna lie I’m so curious to see your collection. You sir have good taste.
You are an exception owning a Rolex and Tudor. Tudor is the affordable Rolex. I bought Tudor pieces at first to play the Rolex AD game. I now have several Rolex pieces and sold all my Tudor pieces.
Definitely not. The whole point of wearing a watch is because you like it and enjoy wearing it. I own both brands but my Tudor is a Harrods edition. I enjoy wearing either one but that being said the Tudor gets more wrist time with me.
Agree with a lot of what you say. I realised a long time ago the only reason why I would want a Rolex is for the flex and what opinion (good or bad) others would have of me. Could I afford one, yes. Would I buy one if offered, I admit that I would seriously have to think about it but at the moment it is seriously off putting walking into an AD and seeing practically all the desirable models as ‘exhibition only’. It leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth and I’m done with that. So much so that the last time I browsed around an AD it was the same old games from Rolex and then I saw the Omega Summer Blue PO and was smitten. A bit of research, a discount and a couple of weeks later I walked out with it on my wrist. My first modern Omega (I have a vintage one inherited from my grandfather) and I absolutely love it. Unfortunately not a feeling I have with Rolex at the moment. As for Tudor, I currently have 2, what they are doing at the moment In my opinion is great and the new Black Bay GMT and Monochrome will be certainly worth a look after the initial hype has died down. At the end of the day I buy what I like and don’t give a damn what others think. Will a Rolex be a future purchase, who knows, but at the moment no not really.
I’m sorry your AD hasn’t treated you well. I can tell you however that as a product alone, Rolex watches are very much worth owning. They’re fantastic pieces of engineering and machinery.
Buy what you want and wear what you like, right? Don’t have a Tudor yet but lucky enough to get a Rolex DJ recently but am definitely eyeing some Tudor timepieces since they have very nice looking watches that is not in the Rolex line.
Tudor is very expensive for a homage brand. It offers no design language of its own. You can buy Rolex homages way cheaper than Tudor. They are not tool watches. 4k for a tool watch that is less reliable than a 30 dollar watch? You kid no one. An apple watch is a tool watch. So these are expensive statements. Man jewelry. Rolex is the well known success symbol. Tudor isn't known by the man on the street, otherwise they wouldn't rank 17th in sales behind Hermes. So why waste money on the tribute band? There are plenty of Rolex available, more than any other brand. Buy a Rolex, and be proud. Or buy a homage. Or choose an Omega, Cartier or real brands with their own designs and history. Tudor is buying into Rolex hype on a beer budget. Still being suckered, but you just can't afford to be totally suckered.
@@WornDownCrownI don’t find you better informed, just another RUclipsr buying into Tudor hype. Cut and paste your opinions from plenty of other channels. I refer to data from Morgan and Stanley, I wonder what makes you less ignorant.
@@gavinwhite9743 I don’t really care what you think or what stats you refer to. I just know I’m happy with my purchase because I own a quality timepiece from a brand I trust with a strong heritage. If that offends you, get over it.
Tudor being a "poor man's Rolex" is a term people might say because they've heard it forever and are just repeating something they are completely ignorant about. You're the perfect good example of owning both and make the great argument that it is a false statement. Both brands are awesome.
Both brands are indeed truly awesome, I wouldn’t be such a passionate collector of Rolex if I didn’t think they were worth paying for and owning. Tudor is beautiful in its own right as well, and I think they complement each other perfectly.
It’s a tough one. I think that in the olden days, relative to salaries, one was either relatively well off, or struggling to make ends meet. I do however think that Rolex changed its target audience over the last 30 or so years. Rolexes are aspirational pieces worn by athletes and successful members of society. That may not always be the case, but that’s definitely the picture they’re trying to paint. We know this because of the entire procedure that is going to an AD and trying to convince a sales consultant to sell you one. I think Tudor kinda is the poor man’s Rolex, although poor people definitely cannot afford Tudors. I look at Tudor as a more accessible Rolex - one that you don’t need to jump through hoops to acquire. What really bothers me about Tudor is their inability to make the best watches they can make. I personally really like the 925, but unfortunately, Tudor had to gimp the watch by placing it on a leather strap - something that makes utterly no sense for a dive watch. They objectively should’ve put it on rubber. The same goes for their original 18K BB58. Now that they’ve dropped the full 18K 58, they’re basically saying: “here’s an aspirational watch for unremarkable people who won’t get allocated a Rolex anyway.” It’s kinda made me rethink the brand and I feel less in love with my personal BB58 because of it.
It sucks that your perception of your BB58 has been damaged by the stigma surrounding both brands. I think that watch is amazing. I’ve sung its praises before on my channel. Hopefully it stays in your collection. Thanks again for your support and coming back to my videos
@@WornDownCrown Believe me, I wish it weren’t the case. I don’t think a brand as awesome as Tudor should be viewed that way, and I also don’t consider it necessary for Rolex to position itself as such. The way they deal with their ADs indirectly creates this allure of exclusivity though, and their recent releases bolster that sentiment. Although I tend to overthink things, it’s difficult to not come to the conclusion that Rolex wants regular people to buy Tudors and stay away from the crown, whilst reserving all the cool colour combinations and strap combinations for their own line. I think it’s great that you’ve showcased both brands though, and the Pelagos 39 definitely isn’t a low tier watch. There’s very little separating it from the Submariner from a pure specifications standpoint.
Interesting discussion. I've been thinking about this lately. Notice that "vintage" Tudor Submariners from the '80s and '90s are going for roughly the same price as Rolex Submariners from the same time period (somewhere around 10K). Why is that? I think many people prefer Tudor over Rolex because it has very similar specs but has more of a "working class man's" image. Now, obviously not every middle or working class guy can afford a $4,000+ watch, but compared to Rolex it's seen as middle class or blue collar. And a lot of people are proud to say they're working class or come from a working class family. So in essence, a Tudor watch becomes a working class badge of honor, if that makes any sense. You made the point that many people who own Tudors also own Rolexes (like yourself), so obviously the notion of, "You only got a Tudor because you can't afford a Rolex..." isn't always true. But even if it is true for some people, so what? When your friend buys a $500K house, it probably means he couldn't afford a $1M house. But do you criticize him for it? Of course not. Just like you don't insult your friend who drives a BMW by saying, "You bought a BMW because you couldn't afford a Bentley!"
6.9 inches. 7 if I have a pump from working out. Size-wise the Pelagos wears better on the wrist. The submariner feels heavier and has more presence, although that’s not a bad thing at all. Sometimes I like the feeling of knowing I have a proverbial tank on the wrist
Tudor is like Honda to Acura and Toyota to Lexus. Tudor is more affordable and easier to attain than Rolex from AD. So Tudor, Honda and Toyota are more affordable price point compared to Rolex, Acura and Lexus.
People often use that same analogy to describe the relationship between Seiko and Grand Seiko, but you don’t ever hear Seiko being stigmatized as the “poor man’s GS.” It’s just Seiko and people love the watches for different reasons, despite them both being essentially the same company
Love that Tudor is hated by some, it’s a great watch BB36 with the amazing rapid adjustment bracelet, champagne dial couldn’t not get it. The love of watches friends that’s it, it’s just a watch with a heart beat, love that, those that hate on it , so. If crypto pops that solid gold Tudor is coming home, now can I get the pink Chrono, hahaha 😂
Buy what you want. Don't follow trends. Personally, it's hard to like Rolex these days. Wrong crowd. Flashy personnas. No innovation. Just re-issues with different colors. Aspirational for the masses, but a bit soulless overall.
I love Rolex, and I love their products. I think it’s important to distinguish between the products themselves and those who buy them as status symbols.
Rolex is one of the most important brands in the history of watchmaking, no other brand has a larger market share or larger cultural significance. Their watches, while in some aspects outclassed by high luxury brands like Patek Philippe, AP and VC in terms of complication and movement finishing, still have a strong reputation for reliability, robustness, durability, and accuracy that other brands have to compete with.
Yes, but damn good watch. However, like Omega over Tudor…. Why…Here’s the truth! Rolex is like a 911 & Porsche Boxter is a Tudor, when you say you got a Porsche and follow it up with it’s a Boxter, the 911 community laughs … sorry not sorry. The flex has become reality unfortunately. Hence why I rock a date Sub, Wemby jubilee 41 & two tone Daytona, why two-tone??? Because my arse can’t afford the all steel with white face !!!! 😂😂😂😂
@WornDownCrown no way! well its the only place I know where a lot of the apartments have walls like that. My family is on Oahu in Mililani and some other places. Thats where I was originally from and Grandma is still there. I see too many pictures with same background 🤣
Rolex is now jewellery. Tudor is what Rolex used to be, a tool watch.
Love this! 100%
Not really - I have an Explorer 2, thoughest watch there is. Love Tudor but Rolex is still tied to its tool heritage. You can wear a president in a gurrelia campaign (che did it), no holy trinity watch would survive that.
I buy and wear Tudor because 1. I won't get robbed for wearing a Tudor. 2. I cannot buy a Rolex in at an AD. 3. I can buy a Tudor at an AD. 4. I like Tudor watches. In random order.
Hans Wilsdorf openly admitted the original mission of Tudor was to give the watch buyer the promise of Rolex precision and reliability more widespread ensuring that luxury wasn't just an experience for the few but a privilege accessible to many.
YES! Tudor is a poor man's Rolex!
What's wrong with that?
Democratizing something does not make it “poor.” That’s what is wrong with your statement.
@@WornDownCrown you’re taking it too literally.
how many poor people can afford a Tudor? None
At least say Tudor is the upper middleclass mans rolex.
No poor person can actually afford tudor lol. Im middle class and i cant even justify a tudor
I agree completely with this video. I like both brands and have many good examples of both. I buy what I like and that is the most important thing.
Tudor is the OFFICIAL copy of Rolex. They have different markets, most people that have Tudor and Rolex in their collection I bet you the Tudor is their beater
When Tudor was still making Submariners, you probably could have said it was the official copy of Rolex. Now that’s an oversimplification of the brand’s identity.
You make a good point though about each brand having different markets.
Why do you say that? Is that how you treat your Tudor?
TBF, I have a Tudor and my "beaters" are a Royal Oak and a Submariner.
@@fontyyy I love that you just said that. What Royal Oak reference do you own?
I bought the BB58 because I wanted the vintage Submariner from the late 50's and my AD did not sell me a Rolex
Most people own Rolex to feed their ego and follow what's trendy. They overlook all the other options out there. I would never engage a Rolex wearing guy on the streets because their enthusiasm are probably limited to just Rolex.
Oh and I subbed because I saw you on that big RUclipsrs vid you sent.
You had a great mindset and continue to show this here.
Thank you for your support man I genuinely appreciate it
Everyone on Reddit are neckbeards. Happy to say I do not use Plebbit, and never will.
When do you use the Pelagos 39, the sub and your garmin?
I use the Pelagos and sub at the gun range, hiking or swimming. My garmin comes out whenever I’m in the gym lifting weights and tracking my sleep.
Rolex=Steph Curry Tudor=Seth Curry. Tudors only claim to fame is being a sister company to rolex. Zenith chonomaster, omega speedmaster, and the Cartier santos are all rich in history and tell their own story. Nothing wrong with the Tudor brand they make nice watches but unfortunately it lives in the rolex shadow.
You always do a great job. Thank you, Morgan
Thanks so much 🙏
imo its like toyota and lexus. same parent company, might even have overlapping parts but different connotations associated with the brands. I'm not a dive watch fan so Tudor just doesn't have pieces that I would enjoy personally and the only rolex pieces I like are the classic collections such as the OP, datejust and day date (way too much to spend on a watch for me)
I like the way you express yourself! I think I mostly agree with you. I do think that people are trying to signal something different with each brand though.
The whole world knows Rolex as a brand and being able to associate with a brand that is known worldwide is different than associating with a brand that is respected by watch aficionados but isn’t nearly as well known.
Regardless I really appreciate watching a new channel. I am a new channel also and I like your style! Subbed!
I love Tudor. I really wish they would do a remake of the Tudor Military Sub with the Mercedes hands.
That’s probably not going to happen. The closest thing there is to the Tudor MilSub is the Pelagos FXD in black and blue.
Only the Rolex cult would call it that.
The new metas certification means a lot more to many people than whatever Rolex themselves do.
Rolex are on a bringing point of a overflooded marketplace. The snobs saying Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex will find out soon.
Oh and Tudor is beloved, Rolex not so much anymore in brand perception. Times are changing.
I think tudor being a poor man's rolex is a half truth at best. Maybe for models in the black bay line an argument for that could be made since most of the black bay line of watches draw inspiration from older rolex models, regular bb has aluminum bezels which is similar to the older subs, and also the panda bb chrono looking like daytona.
However their specs are way better than those vintage watches due to being newer. How they wear and look on the wrist is also drastically different from a rolex imo. They're really not the same. Pelagos line with titanium looks like a sub but wears way lighter. BB are usually thicker than sub and has aluminum bezel. BB chrono is way thicker and chunkier than a daytona.
Tudor is releasing thinner watches and improving their bracelets in recent years. They've given us the BB54 and this year there's the BB 58 gmt, and the t fit jubilee is better functionally better than any rolex jubilee that's out right now, they're definitely way ahead of rolex when it comes to innovation imo.
Real Watch enthusiast respect tudor and buy the brand. It’s a fantastic watch on its own. I own both as well and love that every day aspects of a tutor. I also IWC and Panerai. I rotate them all, but happened to think two door is the best value in Automatic watches in the industry
Ever since I wear a Tudor people just keep on telling me it’s a poors man rolex but in my own opinion since 1998 Tudor has its own DNA… rolex has it own appeal to the market…. Oh and by the way please get a p01 Tudor you will love that beast of a watch…. I agreed with this video a lot…. ❤❤❤ I hate people judging that Tudor is a poor’s man rolex… I also own a rolex Tudor seiko patek and omega…. Casio and seiko also… plus a little tag and citizen now 😝
That sounds like a beautiful collection brother. Thanks for the support and may you wear your watches in good health 🙏
I own three Rolex’s and five Tudors. Each have their own reason for being in my collection. I have other Swiss models as well and wear them seasonally as I feel the need or desire. Each watch has its own purpose and strength.
I wish more people could share your mindset
Glock example was really good!
Tudor isn't for "poors", and it baffles me that such a pathetic and disrespectful brand like Rolex get so many wholehearted fanboys.
I only agree with half your statement. Tudor is not for poor people.
But Rolex is neither pathetic nor disrespectful. I’ve had good experiences at my authorized dealer, and never felt disrespected by them.
It more shows that your dealer is a decent person than Rolex being a decent brand. For me, the most disgusting practice they have today is to fuel the perception of luxurious exclusivity while boasting millions of watches sold every year. It's sad, because Rolex is a brand with rich History and lots of magnificent vintage watches.
On case finish alone, id take the Todor. Im not a fan of high polished cases, imagine scratching the Rolex? Id be crying in my beer.
I don't own a Rolex or a Tudor, I could afford either, I don't drive a Mercedes or a Porsche and the same reason applies I think some or watches/cars are pretty, technically interesting and mechanically well made..... BUT there are others makes that are equally if not better.
I wouldn't drive a Bentley if I occasionally had to park in a public car park, I wouldn't wear a Patek Philippe if I was occasionally out late at night ....
However the main reason is: these brands have a prestige and have a following based upon the marketing.... Buy and wear what you like and do it for you.
Well said 🤙
I bought a MN-FXD not because I couldn’t afford but because I wanted the same tool watch tough enough for the Commando Hubert. It’s completely matte finished and has a monobloc case with strap bars. I sold my Submariner in 2020 because after a year of ownership, I didn’t bond with it. The white gold surrounds made it look as tarted up as the 114270 Explorer that I also sold. I’m not knowing Rolex because the 3130 movement was built like a tank and never failed me. The FXD is just a more pure tool watch and I won’t have to worry about some two-bit thug who either wants to flex or make money stealing my watch. Always thought dudes into jewelery were sus.
I’m sorry you haven’t bonded with your sub, but I hope you’re enjoying your FXD. I still love my sub a lot but it has a totally different personality compared to my Pelagos 39
@@WornDownCrown the 39 was too fancy because of that sunburst dial and treatment on the bezel. The MN-FXD was the exact watch I was looking for. Aesthetically, I did like how that blue hue goes with the gray titanium. I can really see combat swimmers using this.
The majority of people that say that don’t own either or 😁👊🏽🇺🇸
If you own a Rolex, why buy a Tudor when they both have very similar design DNA and functions? Is it because of its social media hype? At Tudor price point, there's plenty of alternative options to add variety to your watch collection. Trying to understand the pysche of collector who own watches from both brands. I suspect that its just Rolex fanboy mentality, leading them to gravitate towards any timepieces released by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. 😆
I answered this question in the video.
I just genuinely like them both.
Your point is true, I have a 5711 here, and two Royal Oaks, and a Tudor Black Bay Heritage, and 3 Rolex Submariners, and a Panerai, and a Datejust and a Seamaster. I still like the Tudor.
I just saw your other comment about the sub and royal oak being your beaters. Not gonna lie I’m so curious to see your collection. You sir have good taste.
You are an exception owning a Rolex and Tudor. Tudor is the affordable Rolex. I bought Tudor pieces at first to play the Rolex AD game. I now have several Rolex pieces and sold all my Tudor pieces.
Definitely not. The whole point of wearing a watch is because you like it and enjoy wearing it. I own both brands but my Tudor is a Harrods edition. I enjoy wearing either one but that being said the Tudor gets more wrist time with me.
Agree with a lot of what you say. I realised a long time ago the only reason why I would want a Rolex is for the flex and what opinion (good or bad) others would have of me. Could I afford one, yes. Would I buy one if offered, I admit that I would seriously have to think about it but at the moment it is seriously off putting walking into an AD and seeing practically all the desirable models as ‘exhibition only’. It leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth and I’m done with that. So much so that the last time I browsed around an AD it was the same old games from Rolex and then I saw the Omega Summer Blue PO and was smitten. A bit of research, a discount and a couple of weeks later I walked out with it on my wrist. My first modern Omega (I have a vintage one inherited from my grandfather) and I absolutely love it. Unfortunately not a feeling I have with Rolex at the moment. As for Tudor, I currently have 2, what they are doing at the moment In my opinion is great and the new Black Bay GMT and Monochrome will be certainly worth a look after the initial hype has died down. At the end of the day I buy what I like and don’t give a damn what others think. Will a Rolex be a future purchase, who knows, but at the moment no not really.
I’m sorry your AD hasn’t treated you well. I can tell you however that as a product alone, Rolex watches are very much worth owning. They’re fantastic pieces of engineering and machinery.
Buy what you want and wear what you like, right? Don’t have a Tudor yet but lucky enough to get a Rolex DJ recently but am definitely eyeing some Tudor timepieces since they have very nice looking watches that is not in the Rolex line.
well I'm an Omega fanboy and I love my Pelagos. In fact, if there were a SeaDweller (regular not deepsea) in titanium I'd have that too.
I’m glad you can appreciate both. 🤙 wear your watches in good health my man.
Tudor is very expensive for a homage brand. It offers no design language of its own. You can buy Rolex homages way cheaper than Tudor. They are not tool watches. 4k for a tool watch that is less reliable than a 30 dollar watch? You kid no one. An apple watch is a tool watch. So these are expensive statements. Man jewelry. Rolex is the well known success symbol. Tudor isn't known by the man on the street, otherwise they wouldn't rank 17th in sales behind Hermes. So why waste money on the tribute band? There are plenty of Rolex available, more than any other brand. Buy a Rolex, and be proud. Or buy a homage. Or choose an Omega, Cartier or real brands with their own designs and history. Tudor is buying into Rolex hype on a beer budget. Still being suckered, but you just can't afford to be totally suckered.
What I think of this ignorant comment: 🥱🥱
@@WornDownCrownI don’t find you better informed, just another RUclipsr buying into Tudor hype. Cut and paste your opinions from plenty of other channels. I refer to data from Morgan and Stanley, I wonder what makes you less ignorant.
@@gavinwhite9743 I don’t really care what you think or what stats you refer to. I just know I’m happy with my purchase because I own a quality timepiece from a brand I trust with a strong heritage.
If that offends you, get over it.
Tudor being a "poor man's Rolex" is a term people might say because they've heard it forever and are just repeating something they are completely ignorant about. You're the perfect good example of owning both and make the great argument that it is a false statement. Both brands are awesome.
Both brands are indeed truly awesome, I wouldn’t be such a passionate collector of Rolex if I didn’t think they were worth paying for and owning. Tudor is beautiful in its own right as well, and I think they complement each other perfectly.
I wouldn't buy either.
It’s a tough one. I think that in the olden days, relative to salaries, one was either relatively well off, or struggling to make ends meet. I do however think that Rolex changed its target audience over the last 30 or so years. Rolexes are aspirational pieces worn by athletes and successful members of society. That may not always be the case, but that’s definitely the picture they’re trying to paint. We know this because of the entire procedure that is going to an AD and trying to convince a sales consultant to sell you one. I think Tudor kinda is the poor man’s Rolex, although poor people definitely cannot afford Tudors.
I look at Tudor as a more accessible Rolex - one that you don’t need to jump through hoops to acquire. What really bothers me about Tudor is their inability to make the best watches they can make. I personally really like the 925, but unfortunately, Tudor had to gimp the watch by placing it on a leather strap - something that makes utterly no sense for a dive watch. They objectively should’ve put it on rubber. The same goes for their original 18K BB58. Now that they’ve dropped the full 18K 58, they’re basically saying: “here’s an aspirational watch for unremarkable people who won’t get allocated a Rolex anyway.”
It’s kinda made me rethink the brand and I feel less in love with my personal BB58 because of it.
It sucks that your perception of your BB58 has been damaged by the stigma surrounding both brands. I think that watch is amazing. I’ve sung its praises before on my channel. Hopefully it stays in your collection. Thanks again for your support and coming back to my videos
@@WornDownCrown Believe me, I wish it weren’t the case. I don’t think a brand as awesome as Tudor should be viewed that way, and I also don’t consider it necessary for Rolex to position itself as such. The way they deal with their ADs indirectly creates this allure of exclusivity though, and their recent releases bolster that sentiment.
Although I tend to overthink things, it’s difficult to not come to the conclusion that Rolex wants regular people to buy Tudors and stay away from the crown, whilst reserving all the cool colour combinations and strap combinations for their own line.
I think it’s great that you’ve showcased both brands though, and the Pelagos 39 definitely isn’t a low tier watch. There’s very little separating it from the Submariner from a pure specifications standpoint.
It literally is. Terrible take.
Why? Why do you say that?
If you can’t back up your position then you’re just wrong.
I prefer the word “inexpensive” rather than affordable cause I can’t not afford it now😅
Gonna keep an eye on the new Coke bezel GMT
Good luck man, I hope you get it. That watch is a killer piece
Interesting discussion. I've been thinking about this lately. Notice that "vintage" Tudor Submariners from the '80s and '90s are going for roughly the same price as Rolex Submariners from the same time period (somewhere around 10K). Why is that? I think many people prefer Tudor over Rolex because it has very similar specs but has more of a "working class man's" image. Now, obviously not every middle or working class guy can afford a $4,000+ watch, but compared to Rolex it's seen as middle class or blue collar. And a lot of people are proud to say they're working class or come from a working class family. So in essence, a Tudor watch becomes a working class badge of honor, if that makes any sense.
You made the point that many people who own Tudors also own Rolexes (like yourself), so obviously the notion of, "You only got a Tudor because you can't afford a Rolex..." isn't always true. But even if it is true for some people, so what? When your friend buys a $500K house, it probably means he couldn't afford a $1M house. But do you criticize him for it? Of course not. Just like you don't insult your friend who drives a BMW by saying, "You bought a BMW because you couldn't afford a Bentley!"
Excellent observation man 🤙
@@WornDownCrown What is your wrist size? How do you like the size of the P39 compared to the Submariner?
6.9 inches. 7 if I have a pump from working out. Size-wise the Pelagos wears better on the wrist. The submariner feels heavier and has more presence, although that’s not a bad thing at all. Sometimes I like the feeling of knowing I have a proverbial tank on the wrist
Tudors are proper tuff accurate watches 👍
Well let's be honest if you can get 3 Rolex vs 3 Tudor which brand do you pick?
Tudor.
Dumb question. Its like asking do you want $20,000 or $10,000....
Im grabbing the rolexes and selling them for the tudors...
@@garylangford6755 you are so smart lol
100% This is a great video! Both companies make great watches.
Ok, so try selling both and see who will make someone end up poor 🤣
As a poor man I can’t afford a Tudor. That fact alone means a Tudor is not a poor man’s Rolex. 😜
Don’t worry king you’ll get there one day 😂 👑 keep grinding.
Tudor is like Honda to Acura and Toyota to Lexus. Tudor is more affordable and easier to attain than Rolex from AD. So Tudor, Honda and Toyota are more affordable price point compared to Rolex, Acura and Lexus.
People often use that same analogy to describe the relationship between Seiko and Grand Seiko, but you don’t ever hear Seiko being stigmatized as the “poor man’s GS.”
It’s just Seiko and people love the watches for different reasons, despite them both being essentially the same company
Love that Tudor is hated by some, it’s a great watch BB36 with the amazing rapid adjustment bracelet, champagne dial couldn’t not get it. The love of watches friends that’s it, it’s just a watch with a heart beat, love that, those that hate on it , so. If crypto pops that solid gold Tudor is coming home, now can I get the pink Chrono, hahaha 😂
Someone very wise once said that if you don’t have haters you’re doing something terribly wrong.
Meh. Tudor needs to bring their divers rating to 300m
The regular Pelagos watches are rated for 500m. Also, not many people are going down past 50.
Buy what you want. Don't follow trends. Personally, it's hard to like Rolex these days. Wrong crowd. Flashy personnas. No innovation. Just re-issues with different colors. Aspirational for the masses, but a bit soulless overall.
I love Rolex, and I love their products. I think it’s important to distinguish between the products themselves and those who buy them as status symbols.
Can we just call Tutor the affordable Rolex? The term "poorman" seems a bit condescending
It’s spelled “Tudor,” but yes I think that’s a less condescending moniker
Anyway why is that people refer to Rolex as a benchmark. Rolex is a brand like other brands
Rolex is one of the most important brands in the history of watchmaking, no other brand has a larger market share or larger cultural significance. Their watches, while in some aspects outclassed by high luxury brands like Patek Philippe, AP and VC in terms of complication and movement finishing, still have a strong reputation for reliability, robustness, durability, and accuracy that other brands have to compete with.
Yes, but damn good watch. However, like Omega over Tudor…. Why…Here’s the truth! Rolex is like a 911 & Porsche Boxter is a Tudor, when you say you got a Porsche and follow it up with it’s a Boxter, the 911 community laughs … sorry not sorry. The flex has become reality unfortunately. Hence why I rock a date Sub, Wemby jubilee 41 & two tone Daytona, why two-tone??? Because my arse can’t afford the all steel with white face !!!! 😂😂😂😂
Your walls reminds of Hawaii
Funny you say that 🏝️ 🤙
@WornDownCrown no way! well its the only place I know where a lot of the apartments have walls like that. My family is on Oahu in Mililani and some other places. Thats where I was originally from and Grandma is still there. I see too many pictures with same background 🤣
The majority of people that say that don’t own either or 😁👊🏽🇺🇸
@@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 yeah apartments, typically not something you own.
@@JoeKyser exactly. I’m glad you get it.
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