@@dapperfan44 Here in mexico, theres a group of reviewrs named 3gb, they are super trustfull, they dont sell themselfs, and they are super small even with 15 years on the road, and still, Sony gives them a lot of stuff. I just think that, at any given moment, Ryan denied them of any PR at that given time blacklisted and hes been there since, dont think is about criticism.
as a 74 yr young gamer whos been gaming for the last 47yrs since the start of video game history with B/W pong on the old tvs i own every gaming system that came out. now playing on the ps5 pro. yes the cost of $700.00 was a lot for a system.even on a fixed income for me but with the trade in of the ps5 slim and gamestop bonus i made it happen cost wise.sony could have done better with a few extras like a disk drive for the price or better controler or stand just something for the price. they would have sold more systems. and still will they know that ,the choice is yours on buying this ps5 pro.its early yet this system will get better down the line its up to the devs to take their time on the games and its companys not rush and make the fast buck GREATvideos RYAN BIG FAN OF YOUR CHANNEL.
I'm 51 years old & I've been gaming since I was 5 & I'm still amazed by gaming like I was the first time my Aunt showed me Night Driver on the Atari 2600 back in 1978 😱😱😱 And I've been hooked ever since 🤦🏿🤷🏿😂😂😂
Sony has stated the ps5 pro is currently selling better than the ps4 pro. So they are not seeing anything really negative in terms of the price nor what that price gives you. All it is we are seeing is a small vocal minority on the internet. Most of these people are the same people throughout all of social media making a stink so while it may LOOK like a lot of people bitching and moaning, its not actually a lot of people.
@@myquietreviews few years younger than you and I've been gaming since 10 years old when my cousin brought over his NES. Put in the Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt combo and it was a wrap after that; a gamer was born.
60 and don’t own a prior PS5, but a PS4 pro. I’d just been waiting until GTA 6 to get the 5, but now that the pro is out, I’ll just get that. Wasn’t in a rush but I just happened to get the Blu ray drive by chance as it was in stock at BB at 2am so I quick ordered it, of course next day out of stock again. But now that I have that, I’ll go ahead and get the PS5 pro. The cost is a bit irritating, but I’ve got it and I like the additional storage size. Things will at least be in balance in front of my TV, PS4 Pro and PS5 Pro right next to each other.
PS3 Original Release Fat Model Plays PS1, PS2, PS3 games. Plays CDs, DVDs, Blurays Media panel with USB, SD card etc support That was a Pro system. You could play the whole PlayStation library on 1 system and use the device as a 1 Media device for all your entertainment.
But if you look at the PS3's library it struggled to run contemporary games at a good, stable framerate and was held back by the Cell architecture. So throwing in a bunch of features and PS1 / PS2 hardware inside of it doesn't necessarily result in the best console experience. I'd personally rather have the price point be focused on the latter. Software based emulation would be great though. Maybe someday.
Those pro-consumer days are gone. Even if they do bring backwards compatibility, they'll go for the subscription based system and/or digital only (making your preserved discs useless - at least let us use it as a prompt to start the download/license check instead of having to buy the same game again) and their fanboys will never blaspheme against the almighty plastic shrine box. And anyone who dares question it shall face the emotional outburst from a grown man with the mental capacity of a 12 year old.
@SotNist there is a program called ChovyTrans that can use your PSP to bypass the restrictions and transfer those "blocked" games to Vita. No modding needed, only works on purchased games.
I still can’t tell the difference between most of this footage, fair play to anyone that feels the need to buy one but I’m more than happy with the original consoles
the limitation of base PS5 is pretty much two choice, 4k and 30 fps or 2k and 60 fps. NOW PS5 can do both at the same time. The difference is best seen in person. RUclips video does not show 70-100 fps (only work on TV that's capable) and also you just can't see that 2k=>4K boost without looking on a 60in 4K TV.
PS5 Pro exists so that games play better/look better on PS6, that's how I look at this. Old games with PS4 Pro patches on PS5 is amazing, can't expect devs to patch old games.
its 60 fps compressed video at whatever your youtube feels like showing you. this is the worst litmus test hes just showing what small differences might be noticeable on video
I bought my first oled this Black Friday and currently playing RE8 on the pro and I’m absolutely blown away. Runs at 120 fps, never seen anything like this before. To me personally since I didn’t have an oled before, this jump feels like the Xbox to the Xbox 360. That’s the last time I remember being blown away by graphics.
Tip of the day: Creating videos on PS5 in 4K is still possible on base PS5. You just have to manually set Rec before doing your stuff. If you already have played and want to capture that last hour of footage, it's 1080 max at base PS5 and (as I have understood it) 2160 on Pro. Meaning, if you are about to do a tutorial or something for others to see, press rec beforehand.
I think most of the time , the PSSR issues are because the devs do not utilize it as they need to. Proof to that is that there are many games where PSSR is doing magic like Hogwarts Legacy, Callisto Protocol, Stellar blade and almost all of Sony first party games. Granted, the PSSR is only at its early stages. With that all said, I think that currently the achilles heel of the PSSR is upscale to 4k from 720p or lower resolution.
Not only that, the devs are most likely using out of date versions of PSSR/SDK. This will get better over time, so I don't mind being patient for devs to understand the feature better.
You can literally slap a $80 1tb nvme in the base PS5 for the same storage. That's why people aren't hyping the 2tb storage of the Pro. It's easy to add storage to the base model.
I have been using the ps5 pro with my Lg c1 oled. The difference is astonishing. The extra price could already almost be justified just with the extra storage. So the performance upgrade is almost free. If you want a ps5 with 2tb ssd storage, it would basically cost you the same as the pro. According to me it is absolutely worth it.
Finally someone that understands this!.. I've been saying this the whole time! It's well worth it if you have the right tv and set up.. its pretty much extra storage.. and another thing my ps1's and ps2's died because of the lazer lens! im probably the only person that is happy about a separate disc drive... now I can just replace that if something goes left or just use my system without it! Ggs!
@bossborne9346 what cap? I had 2 ps1s which I had to turn upside down and use tape.. because the lens kept burning out and I hand 3 ps2s... 2 fat 1 slim! Nothing but truth from my perspective.. to each their own!
I'm not gonna upgrade to the pro I'm just gonna keep my base PS5 I'm completely satisfied with it. And in a couple of years when the PS6 releases I'll upgrade then. But I don't mind Sony giving people multiple options either the base or pro depending on what the player wants values and cares about the most.
Most folks don’t have an OLED tv. And your average 4k tv only goes to 60 hz. So an uneducated person setting out to buy the pro is gonna be shocked when they don’t see many results. I’m worried about buying an Oled. I can just never save up enough money. In this economy that’s a feat in and of itself
So far I love this system it is incredible to finally actually play games in 4k 60 or higher on a console...Games like Stellar Blade, Spider-Man 2, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Ratchet & Clank, and both of The Last of Us games look insane.
I can add a game that changed drastically with the PRO and that is Hogwarts. It is now completely playable in Fidelity with raytracing mode. It was simply not possible on the base console (at least imo). Also Dark Souls 2 (PS4) looks awesome. Much clearer picture. My personal opinion is that Stellar Blade and Demons Souls shows the PS5 Pro upgrade the best. I am very very satisfied with the upgrade to PS5 Pro.
I feel like shelling out for the PS5 Pro now will make upgrading to a PS6 a lot less special. The diminishing returns we are getting with each gen means that this Pro launch just cannibalized most of the new tech and features that might've gone into a PS6. And rather than getting fully baked, developer buy in on all the new games, it is these weird patches that may or may not make games look or run worse. At this point I am happy waiting for the PS6 while people with the PS5 Pro are paying a high premium to beta test the features I will enjoy in a finished state on the next console.
@@Oscar-sz7sp Yeah, I think so. I've played nearly all the PS5 exclusives so far. I don't really replay games, so any benefits to the existing games don't do anything for me. Unless quite a few games come out in the next few years with enough of an increase in overall experience to justify the purchase I think I am good to wait.
Good review of the pro here, I actually did buy one and enjoy it and actually do find that games look both cleaner and smoother with it than the base model. Yes, it is expensive, but I think what a lot of people didn’t cover in their reporting of it, is that you don’t need two PS5’s so yes, you can sell your existing base model PS5 to offset the cost of the pro. It also comes with 2TB SSD so if you didn’t already buy an M.2 SSD expansion, this would have you covered on that end as well. Definitely is a niche product but I think the value proposition is often overlooked if you take these two factors into account on top of the improved performance
I absolutely love mine. Best console out period. So many great patches already. Replayed Tlou 2..Stellar Blade and now spiderman 1 again. Its jaw dropping. Tested a ton of other games as well. I have a PC but do 99% of my gaming on PS so it was an automatic buy for me. I want to play the best and it delivers.
There’s no way Sony is getting many sales for these. I walk in to my local Walmart and target almost every week and see them fully stocked while the regular PlayStation 5 is normally almost gone.
I got the og base console ps5 and for me still looks good no difference I enjoy it very much appreciate the fact that Sony still graces us with good consoles. Good video 👍
This generation is basically getting pretty much all games to 4k 60fps, and pushing upscaled 4k at 120 fps. As long as lower resolution is not a problem to play games at 60, then keep the ps5. If you want a higher image quality whilst maintaining frames, get the pro. Simple.
I bought the Pro because I was tired of sharing the base model with my bro. Haven't tested it out fully yet because of work and its college football season (gotta watch my games) but from the few games Ive played so far I like it.
Totally agree with you on the PS5 Pro. Unnecessary for most players, base PS5 is great, but it’s a noticeable upgrade for an enthusiast. Frame rates in particular are much smoother especially paired with a VRR display. Very happy with mine.
Same position here, I don't see the value of the Pro if next Gen is like 3/4 years away still, if not sooner. Had a PS4 slim since 2018, and only bought a used PS4 pro last year for mostly to tinker with. not sure I'll do the same with the PS5 pro, really depends on home brew and what not. And don't want to jailbreak current gen until its last gen.
@@MadShadow_ Are we really expecting games to look different without effort from game studios to use the new hardware? The same issue with the Pro will apply to the 6. Most games will likely target PS5 and will look the same as they do on the Pro.
@@mmstick Nah not really we are visually graphically, stuck at a ceiling atm. Since the PS3 era or at least the end of it. And the PS6 will hopefully be backwards compatible still. So I'd rather invest in next gen then a mid gen refresh. Sorry but if you have to look for visual enhancement with a looking glass . While immersive playing won't even spend a split second paying attention to it. The only benefit the Pro has right now is higher FPS, and I do my multiplayer stuff on PC. So there isn't really a big incentive for me to go for the Pro.
@briquesbts there’s no air vents on the floor of the console so no it won’t have issues. The stand is just an add-on to keep it sturdy. Mine’s well ventilated and never gets touched
I'd love to own a pro but I'm perfectly happy with my core PS5. I'm sorry but for $700 plus cost for disc drive and stand, we should be getting 120 FPS at at least 1080 but it should be 4k.
Well being cdn- I got the ps5 4 years ago, so it’s the original. Sold it for $400 cdn and upgraded the ps5 pro for $600 cdn …. So it was worth it for me
My wife gave me a ps5 for christmas with an ff7 rebirth with it but i couldn't stand rebirth on ps5 so i switch to ps5 pro and oh boy... it's night and day difference
Nice review and rundown, it should help people decide whether to spend the substantial amount they are asking for the PS5 Pro. When you add the stand and disc-drive and perhaps a 1TB SSD upgrade as well as another controller into the overall cost it's a large amount of money. I am happy with my PS5 Slim which I got for a good price with a PS4 trade-in. Thankfully I have a nice Hisense TV that can take full advantage of the console. We had massive availability issues in Australia after the initial release of the PS5 so I was a couple of years late to the PS5 party. The 30th anniversary theme looks fantastic on my screen, with the release of the PS5 Pro a nice touch to complement the celebration. Admittedly a 1TB SSD upgrade is on the cards for my console with the SSD prices very reasonable these days. This guy's tips on how to setup the PS5 have been beneficial with a few tweaks to my console done after watching his videos. 😎🇦🇺👍
FarCry 3 classic edition on my PS4 was at 720p and it looked rather pixelated so I tried it on my Pro in boost mode to see what if any difference there was. The result was impressive, it looks like 4k now and plays beautifully….like a modern day game should look! So now I’ve got to try some of my older PS4 stuff to see if I can get the same uplift.
@@FiniteRichI still can’t believe that. I’m grateful as fuck they boosted 3, but they did it to the og and not the remastered on lmao, it makes no sense, how did they not just do both, and they didn’t do it to blood dragon either.
The struggle you were going through to make a good point in favor of Sony, really gave me everything I needed from this review. Thank you!!! Not encouraging crappy and anti-consumer practices from Sony.
With some with an 85 in tv in his room, playing blood borne on the ps5 pro actually looks like a remaster. It’s still a locked 30 fps, but the game looks phenomenal and it’s addicting. I put 20 hours this holiday weekend on a new game lmaoo
PSSR will get better over time, its still pretty new.... the pro games look great on an OLED with 120 and VRR.. its hard to tell when watching youtubers copmare the two when watching on a 1080p screen tho.
I was playing horizon zero dawn on fidelity with unlocked frame rate and my lg c1 oled with Vrr and ALLM its buttery smooth no need for a pro honestly.
I bought it at launch and am happy with the games I've been playing on it but I fully understand those who are playing AW2, Jedi survivor, Outlaws and SH2 etc will be disappointed so far, games should definately not be looking worse on the premium console so that needs fixing ASAP. I'm fully confident as PSSR gets updated we will have a great console next year.
I can't believe you don't get a review unit from Sony, your the best PlayStation channel on RUclips, Soo many idiots get review samples but you don't, something wrong with that.
I've had the base ps5 on launch. Recently had to tear the whole thing down to clean for the first time. But my gf got me a pro for Christmas. Right off the bat I love the 2TB ssd storage. I noticed a difference my first match on bo6. My eyes adjusted and it's very smooth frames. Have yet to play a few enhanced games in my library. Excited! Again I feel like it's worth it for ppl like me. I have lg c3 65 inch and have never expanded my ssd, along with quite a few enhanced games I don't need to pay for 💯. This was a great upgrade for me.
I bought the ps5 pro. I really noticed the difference. I do have a lg 120 hertz tv. I think if you have a led or 60 hertz television. Might not notice the difference as much. I am very happy with the purchase. Not only the ps5 games look better but the ps4 are better as well.
I moved over to the PC ecosystem since the cadence of game releases to technology upgrades no longer hold the same excitement like the shift from PS2 to PS3. If consoles aren't going to offer true stability and I end up waiting a year for games to get patch support anyways I've just changed my consumption habits. With all the remakes and endless last gen support I'm gonna focus on the backlog. Excited to see what PS6 looks like but I'm afraid gaming has shifted in a major way based on how much time and money it takes to make them nowadays. Wish we could go back to stylized graphics and a quicker release cadence. Thanks Mystic for your great coverage as always!!
PC sucks. I hate it. Everything is a pain in the ass. Switched to ps with a ps4 and never looked back. Ps5 pro is incredible for the money compared to PC.
The price may seem ridiculous but $200 more than the retail price of the base ps5 does make sense for the pro console, and you get double the ssd storage combined with a framerate and res boost in most games so it is worth it if you can afford it IMO. Besides, we aren’t going to see the ps6 for another 3 years at least so if you want a high end console gaming experience that’s future proof for the next couple years I would get it.
You kill me with this whole “sticker shock” price. Dude, it was announced and I pre ordered two. Lol. But I’m also the guy who paid $600 for his PS3. If you love PlayStation, you don’t really think twice when new hardware is announced. I didn’t at least lol. 💯
damn, when i started my ps5 pro today i thought im hearing wrong when the ps1 startup sound played. that was absolutely amazing, but then i read it is for a limited time only. WHY? that should stay as an option forever.
really enjoying the ps5 pro, it will only get better as it gets more time and games added. PSSR is a new tech, DLSS wasnt what it is today out of the gates either. The only complaint is availability of a physical disc drive as scalpers have ruined that market, and physical games had better sales than the digital but i didnt buy any bc i dont have a disc drive or anyone else around me.
Too bad the disc drives are impossible to get because of the annoying scalpers. I don't have a PS5 yet but I'm leaning more towards just getting the slim with disc drive, the cost of the pro plus hunting down the disc drive for regular retail price just doesn't sound worth it to me.
Im hoping for the disc drives to come back in stock; or, for Sony to realize they f'ed up, release PS5 Pro with a disc drive and priced at $700, and price drop the disc-less Pro to $650.
@dapperfan44 Yeah I agree, they should have been producing more drives in preparation for the launch of the pro. I also feel like for $700 Sony really should have just included the drive, I have a hard time justifying a extra $300 over the slim when that extra $300 can get me a nice stack of physical games during sales.
For those of us who don't get to play every game as they come out could you consider adding a title in the corner to identify each game in your b-roll footage? I often see games that look interesting but have to jump through hoops just to figure out what they are.
@@bryanrivera1528exactly bro. It’s literally people getting a nice screen for the first time in their life and being shocked that a nice screen looks good.
I'm primarily a PSVR2 User. So I will wait what the future Patches will bring. Native 90 Frames for Metro, RE4, RE8, Into the Radius (with Graphics Mode) and the upcoming Hitman Update and I would consider it. But probably will wait for PS6 at that point.
I thought I was in a minority to prefer native over upscaling but it turns out I'm not. Gamers Nexus did a poll. The problem with upscaling is it does a good job when you look at it when things are not moving. But quality drops dramatically when things are moving. That is my observation with DLSS. My eyes can get used to whatever graphics. But when it changes is when I notice it and that bothers me, because "quality is relative". In the poll 68% chose the option "Decrease the graphics quality settings and run native resolution", over the 32% chose "Keep the graphics quality settings, but add upscaling".
it simple if you want the pro look into the main differences there a few compare to base ps5 & you have options sell things you own or get on finance I see a phone shop doing a 2 year plan & 250.00 ps store credit with the ps5 pro
I played gt7 with my pro today. I noticed a MASSIVE difference with my previous OG FAT PS5…….. The difference is that the PS5 PRO makes more fan noise than the OG PS5. 🤣🤣🤣 Oh and picture quality? Honestly? I can’t really see a difference. Anyway… yeah I regret the purchase. 🎉
How do I do performance pro in some of these games?It only gives me regular performance or regular resolution.And I have the pro but how do I get the pro option for performance
I will buy the ps5 pro ONLY for gta 6 if it run at 60 fps and the normal ps5 no. I know a lot of people said that gta 6 is gonna be 30 fps on both console cuz of the CPU. But I don't know MAYBE with pssr ps5 pro is gonna have 60 fps for gta 6 ?
I love playstaion but I wish it could be more user friendly for the little things like connecting airpods, wireless keyboard, etc. I have to use specific bluetooth device just to connect the airpods, ended up using ps app instead. Also need to specifically look for particular keyboard that support. All these little issue leads me to upgrading PC last two months and never bother getting the Pro.
It’s difficult noticing the difference in a youtube video on your phone or tablet. I got the pro. You need to experience it yourself to notice the gameplay difference
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I would have initially thought that PSVR2 games would be enhanced by the GPU alone. If you lived in Texas, I'd offer ya assistance in seeing the difference between the PS5 and the Pro
It's sad playstation doesn't give you gifts or review unit...the only RUclipsr that covers everything real about PlayStation...you are great !!
Well, that's why. He criticizes them when it's deserved.
@@dapperfan44 Here in mexico, theres a group of reviewrs named 3gb, they are super trustfull, they dont sell themselfs, and they are super small even with 15 years on the road, and still, Sony gives them a lot of stuff. I just think that, at any given moment, Ryan denied them of any PR at that given time blacklisted and hes been there since, dont think is about criticism.
He prefers it this way, It's by choice.
@@CasualLeague oh wow didn't know that... thanks
He probably made the money back that he spent on the pro in less than one day from the pro videos
as a 74 yr young gamer whos been gaming for the last 47yrs since the start of video game history with B/W pong on the old tvs i own every gaming system that came out. now playing on the ps5 pro. yes the cost of $700.00 was a lot for a system.even on a fixed income for me but with the trade in of the ps5 slim and gamestop bonus i made it happen cost wise.sony could have done better with a few extras like a disk drive for the price or better controler or stand just something for the price. they would have sold more systems. and still will they know that ,the choice is yours on buying this ps5 pro.its early yet this system will get better down the line its up to the devs to take their time on the games and its companys not rush and make the fast buck GREATvideos RYAN BIG FAN OF YOUR CHANNEL.
I'm 51 years old & I've been gaming since I was 5 & I'm still amazed by gaming like I was the first time my Aunt showed me Night Driver on the Atari 2600 back in 1978 😱😱😱 And I've been hooked ever since 🤦🏿🤷🏿😂😂😂
Sony has stated the ps5 pro is currently selling better than the ps4 pro. So they are not seeing anything really negative in terms of the price nor what that price gives you. All it is we are seeing is a small vocal minority on the internet. Most of these people are the same people throughout all of social media making a stink so while it may LOOK like a lot of people bitching and moaning, its not actually a lot of people.
God bless you sir
@@myquietreviews few years younger than you and I've been gaming since 10 years old when my cousin brought over his NES. Put in the Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt combo and it was a wrap after that; a gamer was born.
60 and don’t own a prior PS5, but a PS4 pro. I’d just been waiting until GTA 6 to get the 5, but now that the pro is out, I’ll just get that. Wasn’t in a rush but I just happened to get the Blu ray drive by chance as it was in stock at BB at 2am so I quick ordered it, of course next day out of stock again. But now that I have that, I’ll go ahead and get the PS5 pro. The cost is a bit irritating, but I’ve got it and I like the additional storage size. Things will at least be in balance in front of my TV, PS4 Pro and PS5 Pro right next to each other.
Love the new PS 30th menus. I just went right ahead and set mine to PS3, anyone else?
Oh shit, gotta check that out
How?
How did I manage to get cut without updating my console? I ignored the feature update
@@lordspalse0062 go to settings and try to update again?
Same lol. I fuckin love the sound effects from that console
PS3 Original Release Fat Model
Plays PS1, PS2, PS3 games.
Plays CDs, DVDs, Blurays
Media panel with USB, SD card etc support
That was a Pro system. You could play the whole PlayStation library on 1 system and use the device as a 1 Media device for all your entertainment.
But if you look at the PS3's library it struggled to run contemporary games at a good, stable framerate and was held back by the Cell architecture. So throwing in a bunch of features and PS1 / PS2 hardware inside of it doesn't necessarily result in the best console experience. I'd personally rather have the price point be focused on the latter.
Software based emulation would be great though. Maybe someday.
Yeah the Fat Boy really could do an insane amount of stuff.
Those pro-consumer days are gone. Even if they do bring backwards compatibility, they'll go for the subscription based system and/or digital only (making your preserved discs useless - at least let us use it as a prompt to start the download/license check instead of having to buy the same game again) and their fanboys will never blaspheme against the almighty plastic shrine box. And anyone who dares question it shall face the emotional outburst from a grown man with the mental capacity of a 12 year old.
@@SotNistbut multiplatform game quality picked up around 2009 and exclusives were amazing looking and still are. Last 3-4 years the game’s were great
@SotNist there is a program called ChovyTrans that can use your PSP to bypass the restrictions and transfer those "blocked" games to Vita. No modding needed, only works on purchased games.
I still can’t tell the difference between most of this footage, fair play to anyone that feels the need to buy one but I’m more than happy with the original consoles
the limitation of base PS5 is pretty much two choice, 4k and 30 fps or 2k and 60 fps. NOW PS5 can do both at the same time. The difference is best seen in person. RUclips video does not show 70-100 fps (only work on TV that's capable) and also you just can't see that 2k=>4K boost without looking on a 60in 4K TV.
PS5 Pro exists so that games play better/look better on PS6, that's how I look at this. Old games with PS4 Pro patches on PS5 is amazing, can't expect devs to patch old games.
its 60 fps compressed video at whatever your youtube feels like showing you. this is the worst litmus test hes just showing what small differences might be noticeable on video
@@timsmyth7942😂😅
@@gameskyjumper1721wow😅😂
Congrats on hitting 800k subs, Ryan!
This is easily one of the best PS5 Pro review videos I've watched ad I've watched A LOT over the past little while. Definitely deserves more views.
I bought myself this for Christmas. The last PlayStation I played was the number two. I hope I like it.
I bought my first oled this Black Friday and currently playing RE8 on the pro and I’m absolutely blown away. Runs at 120 fps, never seen anything like this before. To me personally since I didn’t have an oled before, this jump feels like the Xbox to the Xbox 360. That’s the last time I remember being blown away by graphics.
Thats the power of oled tv lol. Play the same game with the ps5 slim and its literally the same.
@@Mc76204not in 120 fps
Tip of the day: Creating videos on PS5 in 4K is still possible on base PS5. You just have to manually set Rec before doing your stuff. If you already have played and want to capture that last hour of footage, it's 1080 max at base PS5 and (as I have understood it) 2160 on Pro. Meaning, if you are about to do a tutorial or something for others to see, press rec beforehand.
I think most of the time , the PSSR issues are because the devs do not utilize it as they need to. Proof to that is that there are many games where PSSR is doing magic like Hogwarts Legacy, Callisto Protocol, Stellar blade and almost all of Sony first party games. Granted, the PSSR is only at its early stages. With that all said, I think that currently the achilles heel of the PSSR is upscale to 4k from 720p or lower resolution.
Not only that, the devs are most likely using out of date versions of PSSR/SDK. This will get better over time, so I don't mind being patient for devs to understand the feature better.
Absolutely wrong.
Even on a game like gt7 that look great on pro, there still is shimmering issues in areas caused by pssr.
@@thelightahead4810 but there's still significant gains to the overall image quality when PSSR is enabled.
@@ramiyohay7286 pssr is going to be the new raytracing. Barely makes a difference but is hyped to the heavens.
I just got PS5 pro last week, and I'm loving it. nobody saying it so much, but 2TB storage for me was game changing
Exactly my thoughts also❤
You can literally slap a $80 1tb nvme in the base PS5 for the same storage. That's why people aren't hyping the 2tb storage of the Pro. It's easy to add storage to the base model.
I have been using the ps5 pro with my Lg c1 oled. The difference is astonishing. The extra price could already almost be justified just with the extra storage. So the performance upgrade is almost free. If you want a ps5 with 2tb ssd storage, it would basically cost you the same as the pro. According to me it is absolutely worth it.
Finally someone that understands this!.. I've been saying this the whole time! It's well worth it if you have the right tv and set up.. its pretty much extra storage.. and another thing my ps1's and ps2's died because of the lazer lens! im probably the only person that is happy about a separate disc drive... now I can just replace that if something goes left or just use my system without it! Ggs!
cap
@bossborne9346 what cap? I had 2 ps1s which I had to turn upside down and use tape.. because the lens kept burning out and I hand 3 ps2s... 2 fat 1 slim! Nothing but truth from my perspective.. to each their own!
“I want to play on Pro now” is all I needed to hear
A Without Parole shout out. Nice. Brian has the best PSVR coverage...
I'm not gonna upgrade to the pro I'm just gonna keep my base PS5 I'm completely satisfied with it. And in a couple of years when the PS6 releases I'll upgrade then. But I don't mind Sony giving people multiple options either the base or pro depending on what the player wants values and cares about the most.
If by "couple of years" you mean 4 years, then sure
Most folks don’t have an OLED tv. And your average 4k tv only goes to 60 hz. So an uneducated person setting out to buy the pro is gonna be shocked when they don’t see many results. I’m worried about buying an Oled. I can just never save up enough money. In this economy that’s a feat in and of itself
@@TheAfterglowProjectyou can get a good 4k 120hz Qled or a good led for less than the pro
@ you’re not getting a 55 inch qled tv that goes to 120 hz for 700 dollars.
I'll just wait for the ps6 atp
Best Playstation channel, period!
No bullshit, no sensationalism just straight up and honest. Thank you.
So far I love this system it is incredible to finally actually play games in 4k 60 or higher on a console...Games like Stellar Blade, Spider-Man 2, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Ratchet & Clank, and both of The Last of Us games look insane.
CONGRATS on 800K Subs Mystic!!!
Happy with base ps5 till ps6
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Congrats on 800K!! 🎉🎉
I can add a game that changed drastically with the PRO and that is Hogwarts. It is now completely playable in Fidelity with raytracing mode. It was simply not possible on the base console (at least imo). Also Dark Souls 2 (PS4) looks awesome. Much clearer picture. My personal opinion is that Stellar Blade and Demons Souls shows the PS5 Pro upgrade the best. I am very very satisfied with the upgrade to PS5 Pro.
I feel like shelling out for the PS5 Pro now will make upgrading to a PS6 a lot less special. The diminishing returns we are getting with each gen means that this Pro launch just cannibalized most of the new tech and features that might've gone into a PS6. And rather than getting fully baked, developer buy in on all the new games, it is these weird patches that may or may not make games look or run worse. At this point I am happy waiting for the PS6 while people with the PS5 Pro are paying a high premium to beta test the features I will enjoy in a finished state on the next console.
You willing to wait another 4yrs for a PS6?
@@Oscar-sz7sp Yeah, I think so. I've played nearly all the PS5 exclusives so far. I don't really replay games, so any benefits to the existing games don't do anything for me. Unless quite a few games come out in the next few years with enough of an increase in overall experience to justify the purchase I think I am good to wait.
@frozenninja4030 I play tons of games but only once also, so i chose to get a better tv instead of a PS5-pro the best decision.
@@Oscar-sz7spThat would be about the normal generation length anyway, the last 2 were 7 years, another 4 now would make it 8.
Good review of the pro here, I actually did buy one and enjoy it and actually do find that games look both cleaner and smoother with it than the base model.
Yes, it is expensive, but I think what a lot of people didn’t cover in their reporting of it, is that you don’t need two PS5’s so yes, you can sell your existing base model PS5 to offset the cost of the pro. It also comes with 2TB SSD so if you didn’t already buy an M.2 SSD expansion, this would have you covered on that end as well.
Definitely is a niche product but I think the value proposition is often overlooked if you take these two factors into account on top of the improved performance
I absolutely love mine. Best console out period. So many great patches already. Replayed Tlou 2..Stellar Blade and now spiderman 1 again. Its jaw dropping. Tested a ton of other games as well. I have a PC but do 99% of my gaming on PS so it was an automatic buy for me. I want to play the best and it delivers.
There’s no way Sony is getting many sales for these. I walk in to my local Walmart and target almost every week and see them fully stocked while the regular PlayStation 5 is normally almost gone.
I’m buying mine this afternoon, great video.
I got the og base console ps5 and for me still looks good no difference I enjoy it very much appreciate the fact that Sony still graces us with good consoles. Good video 👍
If you are blind, yes.
@@N1ckZnah he’s right base looks better than pro. The pro looks like from Ali express😂
@@iatepacman745 you are just jealous because you can't afford it.
This generation is basically getting pretty much all games to 4k 60fps, and pushing upscaled 4k at 120 fps. As long as lower resolution is not a problem to play games at 60, then keep the ps5. If you want a higher image quality whilst maintaining frames, get the pro. Simple.
I bought the Pro because I was tired of sharing the base model with my bro. Haven't tested it out fully yet because of work and its college football season (gotta watch my games) but from the few games Ive played so far I like it.
Pro with the portal is a savior for football games lol
Totally agree with you on the PS5 Pro. Unnecessary for most players, base PS5 is great, but it’s a noticeable upgrade for an enthusiast. Frame rates in particular are much smoother especially paired with a VRR display. Very happy with mine.
I love it, FF7 and Stellar Blade looks SO much better
Im more than likely sticking with my base PS5. Hoping there is a bigger jump with PS6
Same position here, I don't see the value of the Pro if next Gen is like 3/4 years away still, if not sooner.
Had a PS4 slim since 2018, and only bought a used PS4 pro last year for mostly to tinker with.
not sure I'll do the same with the PS5 pro, really depends on home brew and what not. And don't want to jailbreak current gen until its last gen.
the Pro is a mid-gen refresh....why would the PS6 not be a bigger jump..................?
@@MadShadow_ 4 years is a long time away. But yes if you don't see the improvements on games you own, stick to your base PS5.
@@MadShadow_ Are we really expecting games to look different without effort from game studios to use the new hardware? The same issue with the Pro will apply to the 6. Most games will likely target PS5 and will look the same as they do on the Pro.
@@mmstick Nah not really we are visually graphically, stuck at a ceiling atm.
Since the PS3 era or at least the end of it.
And the PS6 will hopefully be backwards compatible still.
So I'd rather invest in next gen then a mid gen refresh.
Sorry but if you have to look for visual enhancement with a looking glass . While immersive playing won't even spend a split second paying attention to it.
The only benefit the Pro has right now is higher FPS, and I do my multiplayer stuff on PC. So there isn't really a big incentive for me to go for the Pro.
I actually keep my PS5 vertical without the stand, doesn't seem to be an issue unless you're touching it.
It blocks air vents. Your system will get hotter, and it can reduce it's life
@briquesbts there’s no air vents on the floor of the console so no it won’t have issues. The stand is just an add-on to keep it sturdy. Mine’s well ventilated and never gets touched
I'd love to own a pro but I'm perfectly happy with my core PS5. I'm sorry but for $700 plus cost for disc drive and stand, we should be getting 120 FPS at at least 1080 but it should be 4k.
Well being cdn- I got the ps5 4 years ago, so it’s the original. Sold it for $400 cdn and upgraded the ps5 pro for $600 cdn …. So it was worth it for me
I did the same last week. Getting rid of one to replace the other is the way to go
I’m Canadian , lucky to get $400 and everybody selling for 1k+ used for the pro lmao people are dumb
24/7 i bought mine launch day and i love it
My wife gave me a ps5 for christmas with an ff7 rebirth with it but i couldn't stand rebirth on ps5 so i switch to ps5 pro and oh boy... it's night and day difference
Nice review and rundown, it should help people decide whether to spend the substantial amount they are asking for the PS5 Pro.
When you add the stand and disc-drive and perhaps a 1TB SSD upgrade as well as another controller into the overall cost it's a large amount of money.
I am happy with my PS5 Slim which I got for a good price with a PS4 trade-in.
Thankfully I have a nice Hisense TV that can take full advantage of the console.
We had massive availability issues in Australia after the initial release of the PS5 so I was a couple of years late to the PS5 party.
The 30th anniversary theme looks fantastic on my screen, with the release of the PS5 Pro a nice touch to complement the celebration. Admittedly a 1TB SSD upgrade is on the cards for my console with the SSD prices very reasonable these days. This guy's tips on how to setup the PS5 have been beneficial with a few tweaks to my console done after watching his videos.
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FarCry 3 classic edition on my PS4 was at 720p and it looked rather pixelated so I tried it on my Pro in boost mode to see what if any difference there was. The result was impressive, it looks like 4k now and plays beautifully….like a modern day game should look! So now I’ve got to try some of my older PS4 stuff to see if I can get the same uplift.
meanwhile xbox rocking the 360 version at 60 fps 😂
@@FiniteRichI still can’t believe that. I’m grateful as fuck they boosted 3, but they did it to the og and not the remastered on lmao, it makes no sense, how did they not just do both, and they didn’t do it to blood dragon either.
I got a brand new one for $400 on FB Marketplace this morning so I'm for sure happy with getting it and the value is far better lol.
CONGRATS ON 800K !!!!!!🎉
Congrats 🎉on hitting 800K!
The struggle you were going through to make a good point in favor of Sony, really gave me everything I needed from this review. Thank you!!!
Not encouraging crappy and anti-consumer practices from Sony.
With some with an 85 in tv in his room, playing blood borne on the ps5 pro actually looks like a remaster. It’s still a locked 30 fps, but the game looks phenomenal and it’s addicting. I put 20 hours this holiday weekend on a new game lmaoo
PSSR will get better over time, its still pretty new.... the pro games look great on an OLED with 120 and VRR.. its hard to tell when watching youtubers copmare the two when watching on a 1080p screen tho.
PSVR Without Parole shoutout!
I was playing horizon zero dawn on fidelity with unlocked frame rate and my lg c1 oled with Vrr and ALLM its buttery smooth no need for a pro honestly.
Some of those pro patches are bogus. The Finals is advertised as being “enhanced”, but not a single thing changed
I bought it at launch and am happy with the games I've been playing on it but I fully understand those who are playing AW2, Jedi survivor, Outlaws and SH2 etc will be disappointed so far, games should definately not be looking worse on the premium console so that needs fixing ASAP. I'm fully confident as PSSR gets updated we will have a great console next year.
I can't believe you don't get a review unit from Sony, your the best PlayStation channel on RUclips, Soo many idiots get review samples but you don't, something wrong with that.
I've had the base ps5 on launch. Recently had to tear the whole thing down to clean for the first time. But my gf got me a pro for Christmas. Right off the bat I love the 2TB ssd storage. I noticed a difference my first match on bo6. My eyes adjusted and it's very smooth frames. Have yet to play a few enhanced games in my library. Excited!
Again I feel like it's worth it for ppl like me. I have lg c3 65 inch and have never expanded my ssd, along with quite a few enhanced games I don't need to pay for 💯. This was a great upgrade for me.
I am 100% with you on this, RE8 looks amazing
@alexi111 one game that i don't own! Hope it's free in the future.
@@alexi111so does re4 remake, could immediately see how much better it looked
Hell yeah, I'm so ready for another round of comparison shots. *prepares magnifying glass*
RUclips stream isn’t even worth it. 😂
those beats in the background, I thought someone was knocking on doors upstairs.
Interesting to hear more info about PS5 Pro.
the storage space should be adjusted for inflation! the 2tb was a pleasant surprise. the only real L is the disc drive.
I bought the ps5 pro. I really noticed the difference. I do have a lg 120 hertz tv. I think if you have a led or 60 hertz television. Might not notice the difference as much. I am very happy with the purchase. Not only the ps5 games look better but the ps4 are better as well.
Space marine 2 goes hard on ps5 pro. They made that game run really well with pssr.
One thing to keep in mind I got my PS5 Pro at Best Buy open box excellent condition it was basically brand new 620 instead of full price
I moved over to the PC ecosystem since the cadence of game releases to technology upgrades no longer hold the same excitement like the shift from PS2 to PS3. If consoles aren't going to offer true stability and I end up waiting a year for games to get patch support anyways I've just changed my consumption habits. With all the remakes and endless last gen support I'm gonna focus on the backlog. Excited to see what PS6 looks like but I'm afraid gaming has shifted in a major way based on how much time and money it takes to make them nowadays. Wish we could go back to stylized graphics and a quicker release cadence. Thanks Mystic for your great coverage as always!!
PC is permanent last gen support.
To be fair the remakes have been absolutely fire this gen. Demons souls , resident evil, silent hill, dead space ,!final fantasy 7 etc.
PC sucks. I hate it. Everything is a pain in the ass. Switched to ps with a ps4 and never looked back. Ps5 pro is incredible for the money compared to PC.
I just played cyberpunk 2077 on my ps5pro and wow im speechless, it’s enhanced like mofo
The price may seem ridiculous but $200 more than the retail price of the base ps5 does make sense for the pro console, and you get double the ssd storage combined with a framerate and res boost in most games so it is worth it if you can afford it IMO. Besides, we aren’t going to see the ps6 for another 3 years at least so if you want a high end console gaming experience that’s future proof for the next couple years I would get it.
You kill me with this whole “sticker shock” price. Dude, it was announced and I pre ordered two. Lol. But I’m also the guy who paid $600 for his PS3. If you love PlayStation, you don’t really think twice when new hardware is announced. I didn’t at least lol. 💯
Horizon Zero dawn remaster is just unbelievable on PS5Pro.
0:28 God I freaking hate the glossy plastic they keep insisting on using. Looks so cheap.
Ps5 pro is not necessary for this gen consoles
damn, when i started my ps5 pro today i thought im hearing wrong when the ps1 startup sound played. that was absolutely amazing, but then i read it is for a limited time only. WHY? that should stay as an option forever.
You’re absolutely right
Great video as always
As someone who has never owned a PS4, I really need a PS5 Pro, bro.
why? LoL
I have an extensive PS4 library but I finally broke in Feb and got a PS5 slim to play Rise of Ronin. why do you need a pro?
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@@AdApT3Rx whats so funny about being content with a PS5 Slim to play PS5 and PS4 games? arguably the best designed one too.
Why not wait for the PS5 Pro Slim?
@@ak-nt2trhe meant "w" to refer to the word "win" to suggest you have made a wise choice in your gaming endeavours
We need to get Sony to send Ryan the PS6! He does amazing Job ain't no way he can't get a review unit.
really enjoying the ps5 pro, it will only get better as it gets more time and games added. PSSR is a new tech, DLSS wasnt what it is today out of the gates either. The only complaint is availability of a physical disc drive as scalpers have ruined that market, and physical games had better sales than the digital but i didnt buy any bc i dont have a disc drive or anyone else around me.
this is a very indecisive video
Too bad the disc drives are impossible to get because of the annoying scalpers. I don't have a PS5 yet but I'm leaning more towards just getting the slim with disc drive, the cost of the pro plus hunting down the disc drive for regular retail price just doesn't sound worth it to me.
Im hoping for the disc drives to come back in stock; or, for Sony to realize they f'ed up, release PS5 Pro with a disc drive and priced at $700, and price drop the disc-less Pro to $650.
@dapperfan44 Yeah I agree, they should have been producing more drives in preparation for the launch of the pro. I also feel like for $700 Sony really should have just included the drive, I have a hard time justifying a extra $300 over the slim when that extra $300 can get me a nice stack of physical games during sales.
If the Pro would've been $500 like it should've been., it would've flown off the shelves.
For those of us who don't get to play every game as they come out could you consider adding a title in the corner to identify each game in your b-roll footage? I often see games that look interesting but have to jump through hoops just to figure out what they are.
PS5 Pro truly shines on an OLED display; otherwise, it’s underutilized.
Mine is hooked up to an OLED 4K 240hz monitor and its visuals absolutely pop.
OLED tech has nothing to do with making the Pro's improvements more noticeable lol.
@@bryanrivera1528exactly bro. It’s literally people getting a nice screen for the first time in their life and being shocked that a nice screen looks good.
only matter here is VRR and 4k for ps5 pro
@@bryanrivera1528 My OLED monitor has 240hz, so it matters, bozo.
My rtx 4070 shines even harder on oled
I'm primarily a PSVR2 User. So I will wait what the future Patches will bring. Native 90 Frames for Metro, RE4, RE8, Into the Radius (with Graphics Mode) and the upcoming Hitman Update and I would consider it.
But probably will wait for PS6 at that point.
They just released themes for PS5.
Am happy with my ps5 pro
Arken Age, cyubeVR and Subside are other PSVR 2 titles that you didn't mention.
Will get the PRO at some point, it's just a thing I will do regardless. Probably wait a big sale or if I can get my hands on a cool collectors edition
I thought I was in a minority to prefer native over upscaling but it turns out I'm not. Gamers Nexus did a poll. The problem with upscaling is it does a good job when you look at it when things are not moving. But quality drops dramatically when things are moving. That is my observation with DLSS. My eyes can get used to whatever graphics. But when it changes is when I notice it and that bothers me, because "quality is relative". In the poll 68% chose the option "Decrease the graphics quality settings and run native resolution", over the 32% chose "Keep the graphics quality settings, but add upscaling".
They should have thrown in say a digital copy of Astro Bot to soften the blow of the price.
We need a cyberpunk 2077 ps5 pro patch that would be so awesome to see and feel
it simple if you want the pro look into the main differences there a few compare to base ps5 & you have options sell things you own or get on finance I see a phone shop doing a 2 year plan & 250.00 ps store credit with the ps5 pro
I played gt7 with my pro today. I noticed a MASSIVE difference with my previous OG FAT PS5……..
The difference is that the PS5 PRO makes more fan noise than the OG PS5. 🤣🤣🤣
Oh and picture quality? Honestly? I can’t really see a difference. Anyway… yeah I regret the purchase. 🎉
Of all game i play need ps5 pro is FF7 rebirth
Just 1 game so far for me. So for me is kinda not worth it. But for future game maybe
Hello . this is so right I loved absolutely.i love Sony.
How do I do performance pro in some of these games?It only gives me regular performance or regular resolution.And I have the pro but how do I get the pro option for performance
You don’t buy tech for a promise of what will come in the future.
Tell that to everyone who spent $10k on Tesla’s self driving capability.
No, many do just that
That happens all the time wtf lmao
Buying any console when it is new is buying for a promise of what will come in the future. Your comment makes no sense at all.
PS5 Pro: $499
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Concord Tax: $199
= $699
Concord Tax lol.
I will buy the ps5 pro ONLY for gta 6 if it run at 60 fps and the normal ps5 no.
I know a lot of people said that gta 6 is gonna be 30 fps on both console cuz of the CPU.
But I don't know MAYBE with pssr ps5 pro is gonna have 60 fps for gta 6 ?
If gta6 gets capped by the cpu, no amount of horse power on the gpu will solve this.
Only reason I’d get this is for gta 6
I love playstaion but I wish it could be more user friendly for the little things like connecting airpods, wireless keyboard, etc. I have to use specific bluetooth device just to connect the airpods, ended up using ps app instead. Also need to specifically look for particular keyboard that support. All these little issue leads me to upgrading PC last two months and never bother getting the Pro.
What will you think about it in 4th week I ponder…
So basically.
It's a really big upgrade I have the ps4 pro And i'm going to get the ps5 pro For Christmas.
Hopefully
It’s difficult noticing the difference in a youtube video on your phone or tablet. I got the pro. You need to experience it yourself to notice the gameplay difference
Awesome review! Good to have someone doing PlayStation content that is well centered. 👍
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Have you been experiencing the dreaded Wifi Signal drop issue when downloading games?
I would have initially thought that PSVR2 games would be enhanced by the GPU alone.
If you lived in Texas, I'd offer ya assistance in seeing the difference between the PS5 and the Pro