The First Controversial Zombies Map
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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Treyarch's Zombies mode had grown from a side project into a beloved and fully-fledged third mode on the backs of a very strong series of maps that were widely loved across the community; maps like Der Riese, Kino der Toten, and Ascension are all fondly remembered to this day. What happened when Shangri-la released and instead of being beloved, was seen as having been built to directly counteract everything the community had grown to enjoy?
"A Zombies Retrospective" is a series in which I play through each Call of Duty Treyarch Zombies map chronologically, and analyze its place in the series.
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Call of Duty: Black Ops
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Call of Duty: Black Ops III
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) dir. Steven Spielberg
RUclips Video Footage - "Kino Der Toten Round 100 Lobby Strategy - Call of Duty Black Ops Zombies" from TheRelaxingEnd
RUclips Video Footage - "Black Ops Zombies Round 100 ! 20,000 Kills ! - By Syndicate" from Syndicate
RUclips Video Footage - "ASCENSION: Round 151 WORLD RECORD!!!!! Now the WR is 166" from YOTESLAYA
This map dropped sometime late at night, me and my friends stayed up to download and play it as fast as possible. On our first attempt we died at round 26 and were top 10 in the world for like 15 minutes it was so cool. This map was pretty fun for a while.
6 months later what are your thoughts are shangrila now?
@@Swisha16greatest zombie map created
@@Swisha16why would it change considering the map dropped 10+ years ago?
That's a core memory with the homies right there. I had a cousin who was in the top 10 when nacht der untoten on codwaw first came out. He glitched into a spot with a flamethrower and made it to round 2009
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I remember doing this easter egg in highschool with 3 other friends and we held a crawler for 2 hours while one guy had to get his aunt from the airport just to die to the horde on the final step. So many great(ish) memories of this map
That's fucking wild lol
Damn bruh....
Lmfao Y’all waited 2 hours for his ass? Na bro that’s a no go tell that mf to get in a glitch where’s the respect
that is funny
the aunt from the airport 💀
To me the most infuriating thing is that the EE basically required 4 players. Something Treyarch cant quite seem to break away from
Dude I hate when I'm forced to talk to people in public let alone a lobby in cod. Just to get an Easter egg
@@PowuhToSeven especially an Easter egg with my friends it fun but with randoms it’s damn near impossible because dozens of reasons .
@@johntron3849 it's the only thing that ruins shadows of evil for me.
But it’s SO rewarding as a casual player to do it with people. I think it’s far more satisfying then if they nerf it for 1 player
@@PowuhToSeven sounds like a personal issue. If you can’t talk to people in a video game then you need to get some mental help
"No way to communicate with your teammate"
Let me introduce you to the *KNIFE*
The fact some people dont even understand this language is sad
When I did the achievement only 2 of us spoke English lol
Oh my God you gave me so many flashbacks of good moments involving trying to communicate like that
Teabagging is another form of language too.
@rjayyyy9623 Both are very context heavy. Could either mean "Come here", or a celebration, or to taunt. Us gamers just get it
Hey Cliff, just wanted to say your content is amazing. I know you aren’t getting a lot of views now, and your videos aren’t really about mainstream subjects, but I can see the sweat and passion put into them. I hope you get the recognition you deserve.
Thank you so much for taking the time to say that, it means more than you know. I’m not stressing about views, I know I’m not making must-see content, just trying to make something I’m personally proud of, but it’s amazing to hear that someone else liked it. Thank you so much and I’m so happy you’re enjoying it!
@@whitecliffgames for zombies fans that started at 8 years old with Nacht (like myself)- these critiques are definitely becoming “must view” content! Keep it up, wish i could sub more than once!
You know his ratings boost is coming 🤣👦🏻
Yeah when people eventually get back into older zombies maps, he will grow super fast
@@whitecliffgames thats great most people dont make videos just for fun anymore. Awesome to see
I remember finding 3 other randoms on Five and we all silently agreeing to camp in the pap room. We made it to round 32. Such a memory.🙌
Don’t you wish you could see what they are doing today? Man life’s trippy
@@jtonthatrack3984 damn right it is
people still play FIVE in black ops 1 on steam, i played a few times recently
@@whatyouseewhatyouget3021 I still get games on 360 every now and then
@@jtonthatrack3984 they probbaly at the crib chillin
RIP Yoteslaya. One of the high round OG's
Na fuck him. He and and drive putting other peoples live at risk.
Who? the darwin award winner?
Shangri-la was one of the first to introduce real weirdness to the zombies game mode and a lot of people did not see that as a good thing ngl
if only they knew what the future would hold, shangri la is top tier compared to the souless husk zombies has become
Naww map is doodoo my friends and I hated that map vs the others before
It’s the monkey bs
@@chasegimbel1904stop living on nostalgia. Some of the maps are great
@@LorenzoC2314 I love black ops 3 maps, I even like some of the newer maps, but the zombies we have now sucks
I loved this map when it came out, the new artistic direction and layout was always really neat
Same!!
It was like a breath of fresh air and looked beautiful.
When I first played Shangri-la all those years ago, I never thought people hated it. I personally thought it was pretty cool and had fun with it, so it caught me off guard many years later when I started seeing people hating on the map. Your video really clears up why people disliked it and the issues it has, so I'm really glad your video was informative about Shangri-la.
@@youngfoe4508 yeah, I agree that PaP'ing was a bitch online without a mic. Idr if I played online a lot tbh. I always played solo or split screen
I mean the really low player count (rip player counts) did give it away that it wasn’t loved
The map is still ass, till this day.
My gaming circle HATED call of the dead and shang was considered a bad map gameplay wise but one of the best story and atmosphere wise.
Oh yeah, it was definitely one of the more hated maps if not most hated. I think at the time Black Ops 1 was out, Shangri-La and Moon were my two least favorite maps while Kind Der Toten and Acsension were my favorites.
That Yoteslaya clip hit me right in the feels. Nearly 10 years since he passed.
Damn that’s crazy. Rest in peace.
Best BL2 RUclipsr 😢
Damn OG fr
My buddy and I used to make cod RUclips videos back in the black ops 1 era. We met yote when he had about 300 subs and would always play with him, I was even on a few of his videos. We ended up getting older and stopped making content, and then about a year later heard about his passing. RIP
Really made me think about how long it’s been lol, sad
There is actually one trap on Shangri-La. It's in the lake where Mule Kick was later added, there's a prompt if you walk up to the rock in the center from the cave entrance. It's also free to use
Yo I forgot about that big time, thanks!
Phd is so needed on this map, mustang or sally/ray gun is vital for clearing zombies blocking your path around corners
Subscribed, watching your zombies video has brought back a lot of great memories of staying up late almost every night with my same group of friends doing high rounds when these maps first came out
If you did Easter eggs, you could definitely find appreciation for it. Some of the best times I’ve had for sure
I love your thoughts and input of all of these maps. They are very relatable to how I feel about the maps, the game, and the developers/development. You hit a lot of topics in your videos that are super relatable to how I feel about the maps you are talking about in each video
I really admired people that were able to survive on Shangrila. I couldn't get past round 6 solo and on most public lobbies we never got past round 10 lol
Love the way your brain works man. You have wonderful insights into the maps.
Sending love from Australia, can't wait to see more!!
Good script, clear and thought out arguments for each map.
Keep up the good work man
I loved this map. I hate to say it, but this happened to my favorite map of all time. I loved this map. Had good times on this map with yourself and 3 other friends. The Easter egg took us a while and we failed a lot. It was fun though and the wonder weapon was great! Loved that shrink-ray thing lol
I literally remember when this came out my friends and i called this “the hard map” out of all the maps 😂😭
It is tho. Call of the dead is the second hardest and Five is third. Easiest is by far moon. Then kino and then obviously Der Reise remake are second easiest. Ascension is pretty damn easy too. All the maps from blops and waw are a cake walk except for five, call and shang.
@@lucifer2b666 Verrukt would like to say hello
@@lucifer2b666 Five felt like a good challenge. Shangri La just felt like a giant “fuck you” at every point
@@lucifer2b666five is harder than call of the dead
@@Disfyncialcall of the dead is not that hard.
I used to really hate this map. Now, I don’t hate it, but it’s not my main choice. Also PAP with randoms makes me wanna die.
I always loved this map and moon. Doing the Easter eggs on those two maps with 3 guys I met while playing halo was some of the best memories I have from gaming
I was never that good at this map myself, but I was always drawn to it. I love the warm sunset jungle vibe, and Pareidolia is a great song. I think it's difficulty is what drove me to keep trying to get better at it. It definitely feels like a lonelier map.
My friends and I love this map. It’s perfect when we just wanna have a good time after a few months zombies hiatus because it’s so chaotic and we know that we won’t make it past round 15 so the games are nice and short. I’m so glad this map exists especially in bo3.
Same reason that I love it. It's my favorite map for casual play because it's tough, which makes even early rounds exciting, because it's tough it's hard to make it far meaning games are likely to be shorter, and due to the inability to train you were forced to move around which let you see every part of this gorgeous map.
@@friendboy10 you said it better than I did lol. I agree completely
So I only just now realized you have 234 subscribers
I'm actually shocked you aren't blowing up yet
Keep up your content I hope that the algorithm will finally notice you. So far I got this video as a random recommendation but I really like these videos
They now have 2.36k!
@@averagemike2171 Let's go :D
He deserves a lot of subscribers
currently going through the entire series, I love your work man, you have like all the objectively correct opinions and these videos are very well made.
shang is by far (imo, ppl have different opinions) the best map in bo1 for a few reasons, even tho its not casual friendly, but i dont have problems to encourage the player to improve at the game.
1. the map is relativly small but easy accessable due to multiple ways to move around the map
2. the wonder weapon is an absolut beast, a shit ton of ammo+1 hit kill on every round+drops power ups+ swag for kicking baby zombies around
3. spaws are very fast, very fun map to play high rounds
4. you actually need to think about the game, obvly. avoiding the mud or spikes is smart
5. graphics
Great survey, Cliff. Brings back memories of 9th grade for me. Great touch with Paradolia playing at the end. The metal music in Black Ops 1 and 2 was just awesome. Metalcore, deathcore and everything in between. I’m a huge metalhead, haha.
Shangri La was a fun map, it was much more difficult and I definitely didn’t play it as much as ascension, call of the dead, or moon, but it added a lot of cool features and did a good job at setting itself apart from other zombie experiences.
@Skankhunt42 it was too chaotic, there was too much going on and too many spawns and it was just a nightmare to navigate, but I’m sure back then I had it down more than I remember
I enjoyed the Easter egg on this map it was definitely challenging to say the least! Has to be up there with one of the hardest ones I’ve done.
Pretty cool! My friends and I definitely neglected this map for others like Kino, ascension, and especially once they re-released the original 4 maps. Neat to watch this retrospective and be able to appreciate it and its differences and attempts to change the formula. It makes me want to go back and play it! Nice video
last time i played Shangri la was with a full squad of randoms on pc and we actually managed to complete the easter egg it was an awesome experience and one of my final great zombies memories
I miss going to my good friend’s house across the street to play the new Zombies map when it dropped. Simpler times
Amazing content. Brought back a lot of memories. Subbed
This was a very nice video to randomly stumble upon. Obviously a nice nostalgic trip down memory lane but you also really put into words why I was so mixed on the map on launch, but still somehow appreciate it. Just something I couldn't put into words when I was young and it released, and never bothered to really think about too hard later in life.
Also the minecart was rad asf
Love how hard this you tuber is grinding. Great content keep going!
Honestly the reason why I play certain maps is the Easter egg music and I play the hell out of Shangri la because damn Pareidolia slaps so damn hard.
The esthetic, the difficulty, the enemy variety, it was all perfect to me. Still my favorite zombies map.
When running through all of these maps for the first time (My first map was buried, but I started playing in 2020), I really liked this map, and I still do. Cool mechanics and major challenge are my two favorite aspects of a video game.
5:00 yup. we've all been in the first room and everybody refuses to buy the first door(including yourself).
Crazy seeing you blowing up. Been around since ~200 subs. Love your content man!
I loved this map. Loved that you could start a game and give it your all and not be worried you’d still be sitting there 4 hours later. The visuals and daytime lighting was great too
Big McThankies for not resorting to the usual video essay tropes, e.g. unnecessary pausing, overuse of theatrics, etc. This was very refreshing.
The trailer for this map was legendary.
I cannot describe to you how much I absolutely love your videos and in depth explanations AS WELL AS KNOWLEDGE ABT BASICALLY EVERYTHING
shangri with 3 friends was my fav map of all time. the slide, cart, jets. fuck that was a fun time of life on xbox live with the boys. Shangri La forever best map
Such an underrated map! I loved the challenge and how it forced you to keep moving!
All of these maps hold such nostalgic value for me
waiting for this baby to download felt like an eternity
First video I saw of you - amazing.
Thanks for taking me back to 2011 with this video. :)
this map aged so well
Damn when I saw the yoteslaya clip I almost cried R.I.P
Good work man. I loved this video. Shangri-la has the best ee of all the old maps in my opinion. Someday I would like to get a PC so I can get the bo3 solo mod
I just wanted more to the map. I loved the aesthetic and design, I wanted more of the temples and jungle and fewer caves
Call of the dead seemed massive compared to this cum5hot
this is actually my favourite black ops 1 mapfor some reason, its just so memorable and so hard but in a great way
this map wasn't even that bad. it was fun as hell especially when you find out about the monkeys that steal power ups and killing them with precise timing will either switch the power up or they'll drop a free perk
Hey this video just came up in my recommended and decided to watch it and was so glad I did. Very well written video and a great retrospective on one of the most unique maps in zombies history. It’s so great to get that perspective to look back with so thank you, you earned a sub:)
Shang was my first ever DLC purchase and was purely for the Easter Egg of the map. I found it challenging but I found all of them a challenge in a unique way. No map was easier for a given reason, each player has their own ways to play given maps. I can understand the dislike to Shang but it's one of the most unique maps and definitely paved a way for future maps also.
I thoroughly enjoyed this map when it released. I was blind to the fact that it had so many people that hated it until recently.
everyreason you gave on why this map is hatted is why I love it
Shangri la was my personal favorite
I honestly love this map. I've been revisiting zombies as someone who was super casual (maybe 1% of my time in CoD was spent on zombies) and only played base maps outside of some sleepover back in the day. Going map by map, game by game and spending a day or two on each. So far, Shang might just be my favorite! Super unique theme, absolutely breathtaking pace with tons of lovely and unique mechanics that help it really feel like an Indiana Jones-esque adventure. It has my favorite wonder weapon so far and while I totally respect how annoying PaP would be with randoms, playing it with friends and the couple communicative randoms I was with made it a real treat. It helped build some sort of bond and trust between us communciating on holding crawlers and inconveniencing ourselves when only 1 person "needed" pack on a round.
I also love how it lacks the truly open spaces so training zombies feels more tense. It is still pretty simple, but having to be just that tiny bit more attentive to your surroundings makes it a more engaging experience without feeling exhausting. Tying traps to special zombies and letting players easily farm max ammos more frequently with some skill is also so brilliant imo as getting clutch drops from monkey rerolls is hectic and fire zombie spawn rates feel pretty perfect.
Things like the spinning sigils in the mud trap also helped inspire so much intrigue that it ended up being the first story easter egg I actually felt compelled to complete. Managed to figure most steps out myself too which felt really nice!
Honestly the only downside I have is the song because while I liked it it is also my least fav thus far.
Maps like Shang and Five are necessary evils and I still love both maps. Besides, Shang makes drinking games for zombies interesting lmao.
RIP Yoteslaya
Real gamers knew that the bottom of the water slide was the spot to train
Dude, this was awesome! Thanks for the explainer on the thinking behind the map design. Keep up the good work man, God bless you! :)
I love Shang ri La for it's story and atmosphere. Even thought it's set in a bright and sunny jungle, the architecture was ancient, felt very far away from any civilization (well, it was on Mars), and the radios put such a terrifying image in my head. Brock and Gary being trapped in an endless time loop to be killed again and again is just psychological torture. I miss stuff like this from the world at war and black ops 1 era before the apothican and doctor monty crap.
Siiiiiiick. Reminds me of Pat’s retrospective series, and I’m all about it. Keep it up!
Subbed ❤️
Your content made me go back and replay black ops 1 on my old dusty ps3
That’s what I like to hear
@@whitecliffgames literally my first zombies match in years, I get paired online with a hacker that had infinite death machine and the ability to fly and move through walls lmfao. Map was FIVE
This vid went hard bro! Informative and no over the top music, very nice. subbed
Why does this only got 70 views!?!? Great vid
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Well done 👏🏽 this brings me back just trying to get to high rounds on this map with my friends and when we wud be down on our luck we wud always play the easter egg song and try to survive the next round damn fun times but great vid bro and also respect to for using YoteSlaya's gameplay he was my favorite zombie player back then
We were too bad at the game at the time to realize that this is a really great map
Ascension, the map with the bus (I forget the name), Alcatraz and moon were the coolest maps imo.
Seeing you used a yoteslaya clip made me really happy ❤️
To me it was always one of my “favorites” just due to the lore and the atmosphere of the map. But I rarely ever played it just because of how hard it was.
Also Elena on the vocals in Pareidolia song is awesome. And Kevin on the guitar.
To this day, Shangri La was the hardest black ops map to reach round 40 on
Your content is great keep it up :)
Thank you! That really means a lot, glad you enjoy :)
Your videos are going to be rewatched years from now
I've subbed just now. It's always so inVIGORating (thanks Richtofen) to see someone discuss the Aether Zombies maps. Doesn't matter who the creator is, as long as they have interesting things to say about, I'll listen.
I've been binging this series atm and I cannot wait for you to do up to Cold War (or Vanguard, if you are really dedicated lol).
I hope you can branch off into different aspects of analysis like character studies and comparisons (Ultimis vs Primis vs Victis), a timeline of the story and connections and that. It'd be great to see.
Thank you for taking me down memory lane I miss zombie so much
Idk why this popped out so late for my recommendation… new sub!!
Only thing I likes is that the mistery box always starts in the same location
I mean the baby maker was the most unique and underrated gun in cod zombies
>Five
>Not fan favorite
What?
This was the map that made my buddy's give up on zombies. They never returned for moon or ever again
Shanfri-la was the first time we had to communicate for steps lol
the thing is, i do like this map like im a casual zombies player (getting to round 20 is a win for me) and shangri la except for the easter egg felt rly like it was just a map made for solo. defo it was rough in comparison to most maps but i still find it fun and its one of my go to maps.
for me the problem was just the zombies (specifically in bo1) attack speed in general. had zombies of not attack so fast the map wouldve better. the fact that some zombies attack animations were so fast you actually took damage before they even lifted their arms made all maps hard, but maps like this and five was just a bit too much. i feel like had they slowed down attack speed of zombies to the sluggish kind in world at war nacht it could have been solved.
Man I remember this map being so hard..but it had some of the best early game ever it was so much fun
I glitched a napalm zombie by shooting it and killing the last normal zombie at the same time or something like that, it just started sprinting like the last zombie normally would
For me, the biggest dissappointment was how much of a step down it felt like as far as map layout went. Before this, each map had been getting progressively more complex. Just think about how vast call of the dead was! But this map was just a big circle, that was it. And the only slight variances to that circle were little one-way gimmicks. It felt like a massive let down then, and seeing all the stuff that got cut from the map, it kinda STILL feels like a big letdown.
Dang this reminded me of me and my friend trying to play online a shout "mics only! mics only!" If we were paired with people who didn't have mics
I got a pc with all my homies just so we could revisit this map all these years later like the good ole days on 360
The best map of the Black Ops series. Beautiful, hard-core and insanely difficult.
I loved this map when it released, it was just so different. Learning people hated it was a shock.
You can still train on this map, just go into the power room with the spikemores, pretty good strategy. It's like Veruckt or Cal of the dead where you had to keep moving because of George
encapsulates my feelings toward Shang perfectly. I wish people would give this map more credit instead of hating it for its difficulty.
Nailed this video fr, entertaining and informative all your points are spot on this map aged like fine wine it really should have been introduced on bo3