Who is Gwenpool? - Marvel's Mutant Megafan
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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In this series, we look at the characters behind the Marvel Snap cards, recapping their origin, their powers, looking at how well they fit their card, and giving you something to read.
This week we're covering the Marvel comics nerd who managed to jump into the comics, Gwenpool.
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One of my favorite Gwenpool moments was when she pulled her "disappearing through the panels" trick on Dr. Doom and he just followed her, going "yes, yes, I know how to use transdimensional portals too"
Gwenpool, a character who's had such a presence in comics for about a decade, hasn't made a big splash in major media thing yet. Knowing her, she'll acknowledge it when it finally happens, and probably be happy when it's not in a Deadpool thing... unless it is, and she'll be upset lol
She was in a few games before this one. I tend to think she is a poor fit for other media though, since her powers are _about_ comicbooks. It's harder to translate to other things, since they are not comic books.
@@timogulA movie or TV show could pretend they're still shot on film and use the space between the frames as sort of like the gutter space of a comic page, I guess.
@@testytest69420 It's possible, but then she'd be a quite different character.
She's in deadpool wolverine movie gwenpool
@@josephwoolfork She isn't, Lady Deadpool is.
I don't think it's necessarily true that Gwen was always from the marvel universe. To me it seems like it was meant to be left ambiguous whether Ms. Marvel was right about that or Gwen just used her retcon abilities to make herself into a mutant.
It was the latter. She retconned her own origin story. It's a grandfather paradox.
This is my literal favorite marvel character.
I pirated her comics and slowly fell in love with her so much that I actually bought her omnibus.
Like, it’s either her or Ms. Marvel who are my all time favorites in marvel continuity.
Christopher Hastings' Gwenpool book is so good, I cry at the end every time I read it.
One of my favorite characters. I have a thing for the more absurd characters.
My favorite creator breaking down my favorite character, heck yea
After watching this makes me think that Iman Vellani (Ms Marvel) is our real life GwenPool. She is a comic book fan and plays Ms Marvel, who also writes her own series of Ms Marvel comic books. I wonder what else Iman can do! 😅
Gwenpool and Squirrel Girl are my two favorite comic book characters, and their books have had huge influences on my own work.
Maybe her having an unrelated but otherwise very useful power isn’t an expression of the way that Gwen is usually motivated by finding whatever way she has to to stay relevant enough to keep existing?
Strange that we haven't had a cartoon of her yet
Especially since she's not known for being raunchy which makes her great as a kid's character, though she was prominent in Lego Marvel 2.
I think she works ok with Jeff, making him a 2/5 that you can play on a location that is already locked
Yeah, but she's a 4 cost card so it's a bit clunky to just keep jeff in hand just for that
@@luisjauregui2197
Not really. Lockdown decks usually want a surprise Jeff turn 6 just in case.
I'm SO MUCH looking for Hydra Bob origins.
I love him as much as Deadpool loves his Bobs.
When this series first started, I was a little sad as the timing was just so that I barely missed getting to hear you talk about Martyr (who is one of my favourite Marvel characters). However, given you'll be talking about one of my other favourite Marvel characters here, this video will provide an adequate salve.
Gwenpool is one of my favorites, not in small part because I was a Dr McNinja plan for so long
I love her so much, she could have just been a gimmick but especially with The Unbelievable Gwenpool they really made her a full character.
I honestly interpreted the ending as her trying to make Ms Marvel feel better and therefore Gwenpool lied and said, "Yeah, sure, I'm a mutant." Then her reality shaping power literally re-wrote reality to match what she said. Sort of like how House of M did but obviously on a smaller scale. So she is actually from another world, etc, but became a mutant when she said it.
As a huge Gwenpool and card game fan but not a snap player - is there targeted discard in snap? Like look at your opponent's hand, choose a card to discard from it.
I think that could fit gwen pretty well. She knows everyone's secrets and can use that to disarm you.
Closest thing their is is selecting the leftmost/rightmost/highest power/lower power card, and typically in your own hand
Gwenpool is such a great character, it nice to see her getting recognition.
Fantastic work as always!
I never cared about the character because I thought it was just another gwen stacy thing. Knowing she's her own character unrelated makes her a lot more interesting. I wonder how many others never ended up picking up the series because of that
So, not really familiar with the game, but wonder if she's just a fairly solid universal buff which would make her show up incredibly randomly, but not a LOT because she'd only ever be a back half fill AFTER you have your primary tactic set up.
I stayed away from Gwenpool for a long time, assuming she was Gwen Stacy/Deadpool, and not being interested in that.
I’m so glad I read her book. It’s fun, interesting, and her personality is a blast. IMO her book is most similar to Morrison’s Animal Man.
YEAH BABY LETS GOOO
I find it funny that Nando is still clinging to the idea that cards should work with characters from the comics even though second dinner definitely does not have as part of their design philosophy.
She's someone that I would very much love to go out with.
Awesome video as always! Could you try to do videos on the cards that are already ingame?
All of the multipliers are gonna love this card, I hope it makes Black Panther easier to play out without telegraphing it like you have to now
Fuckin love Gwenpool. GuriHiru's art is fantastic
I really enjoyed her Unbelievable run. Gurihiru's art style might be a little manga-esque for some, but I think it fits Gwenpool perfectly; she looks adorable in it. Batroc was a lot of fun in that series too. Other than that, I've just read her Howard the Duck debut, that Christmas one-shot she had with Kamala, and some of the West Coast Avengers stuff. I know everyone hates Quentin Quire, but I thought the thing they had going in WCA was kinda cute. Interesting to hear that they pinned her down as aro/ace later; I feel like that doesn't really line up with some of her appearances, though from what I recall it would make plenty of sense with how she's depicted in Unbelievable (probably the best version of the character anyway). I think I'll give Strikes Back a shot.
Ive seen a bunch of her, really cool
Love these videos Nando, a potential good idea may be observing their abilities in Marvel puzzle quest, I know you may not play it but it has a decent community, also MPQ drops a new character every couple weeks so that could also potentially be another avenue. But also I get it if you don’t play it why that wouldn’t appeal to you
I was hoping they would come up with something more creative for her card...
When I read somewhere that Gwenpool is coming to Snap I knew I'll be seeing this video soon...
I wonder if she appears in Deadpool 3 she'd be angry that she appeared in it because she's not a deadpool character
My interpretation of the retcon is, her origin is a little messy. So GOD went ahead and gave an out so writers dont have to acknowledge the weird parts.
I need to at some point work on my script idea for a Gwenpool movie, I am not even watching this video tbh just saying this now for some accountability.
I kinda wish her Snap card affected a location instead of a random hand buffing ability. Would have been way more in flavor.
I dont think her being a mutant is supposed to be a reveal about her origins. I always saw it as Gwen being so strong with her powers she just retconed that into reality.
Also, I dont think her custome being similar to deadpool is just a coincidense. I think its because the tailor missheard her real name, and thought that was the superhero name she was going for, so she made the costume accordingly.
nice
Gwenpool is a really amazing character, though she seems to fall into this trap a lot of comedic characters fall into where if a writer doesn't know the nuance or purpose of them, they'll just use the loudest parts of their personality. It's really disappointing how easily this happens with comic book characters.
Wonder if she'll be in something else
Hey Nando. This is not a critique. It is a question. How come when I watch a video like this elsewhere they gotta blank out the speech....but in your case you don't. I imagine there's a legal aspect I'm not seeing.
Great video, but I thought Kamala Khan had a solid handle on the title “Marvels Mutant Megafan”
Gwen is more the "average Marvel Comics fan"
I love her, but she's explicitly pretty dumb and has a relatively surface level knowledge of the comics, a pretty major plot point at several points.
Wait so who would technically own the rights to her? Marvel or Sony? Because she’s not related to Gwen Stacy, but she technically was first conceptual based on her. Then also Spiderwoman is owned by Sony, even though she was never connected to Spiderman.
Sony does not own "things conceptually related to Spider-Man." They only own the things that they specifically signed an agreement to in the 90s. I don't think they officially owned Silk or Ezekiel either, but a later deal with Marvel got them some additional rights.
The mutant retcon is BS. Ignore it. Unbelievable Gwenpool's back half (the book, not the character) is MUST READ comics. It is a love letter to comics and comic readers that everyone owes it to themselves to read. Everything she's done since then has just been shamelessly chasing fads, and it's sad. For future writers, she only really works if you are a clever person who can use her powers in interesting ways. This is why she's tricky to use in a team book, because you basically have to write the books around how her powers work for her to make sense.
The original Chris Hastings run was _so good!_ But none of the subsequent runs by other authors has come anywhere close to that first Gwenpool. The run where they retcon her into being a mutant was especially bad writing. It was wacky scene followed by unrelated wacky scene, the whole time, and nothing mattered. Just the absolute worst. Ruined the character, actually. Forever.
So who has Gwenpool’s film rights?
Disney. She was created long after the Sony deal.
@@timogul well, if she’s not even Gwen Stacy then Sony has no claim to her. I assume she falls under the x-men banner?
@@Christian-lb2vi Not that it matters after they bought Fox, but even in an alternate world where that never happened, she would be with Disney. After the mutant retcon (which probably wouldn't even have happened in this alternate world), they could still use her in MCU stuff without Fox's permission, they just couldn't say the word "mutant" in an MCU project. The Fox deal never meant that anything related to the X-Men became their property, it was strcutured around them owning "X-Men concepts" like the term "mutant," and a specific list of characters and other things that they wrote in the 90s. To get Negasonic Teenage Warhead into Deadpool they had to sign a new deal with Marvel in which they shared and traded access to a few characters, since that mutant character was introduced in comics after the deal was signed.
I'm glad she's in the game now, but I can't be bothered to waste my time on the recruit pass just to waste my time again to get her. This game is way too fucking boring for me.
At this point I would have been glad to just pay real money for the damn card.
Also, I think Gwen just retconned herself into a mutant, the same way she retconned Evil Gwenpool out of existence or brought MODOK back to life.
her coming out as Asexual or Aroace was fine it would of made more sense if she came out as demisexual for those who dont know it means that a person is attracted to someone only after they've developed a close emotional bond with them.
Even that would be a bit weird, since she started snogging Quire almost immediately.
@@timogul true and then she immediatley says that she should of done it with America Chavez.
as an aro ace person, her coming out story really resonated with me and made perfect sense. it's really, REALLY hard to figure out you're ace, and her kissing people was part of that journey of discovery for her
Hey Nando off Topic but can you make a video about How Marvel ruined Iceman? Ill tell you how/why but bucke up cuz its a long one. so one of the things that made Iceman well Iceman was that he was a ladies man and im not homophobic when i say this but Marvel turning Iceman gay really did ruin his character. he's the comic relief and the The Human Torch of the team. Quick tempered, a straight horny ladies man that'll do anything to save his friends without thinking about himself. Iceman had no hints of being gay prior to 2015, most people like to bring up the fact that in 1963 in the very first issue of the X-Men when Professor-X is telling them that a girl/Jean grey is joining the school/team he said ''a girl big deal'' and use that as ''proof that iceman was always gay'' when that quickly gets disproves when a fan asked stan lee if Iceman was always gay he responded with ''well i certainly didnt write him gay in 1963'' which doesnt mean that Iceman was gay it just means that he wasnt interested in her and the only people who defend the decision that Marvel or more specifically Brian Michael Bendis made are you guessed it apart of the lgbtq group. Another thing that people bring up is that he dated Cloud (if you dont know she can turn into a guy and a female) when that was the whole reason he broke up with her bc he wasnt comfortable dating her. Also in all the adaptations that Iceman has appeared in even though he doesnt have a big/massive role in any of them they all portray him the same him being a straight horny ladies man. also dont give me that bs excuse that '' some people come out later in life'' which yeah is true but Imagine if Marvel decided to make Spider-Man or Cyclops come out as gay...............................see what i mean? like if you want gay characters just make new ones dont turn characters who for years especially one that has been straight for 50 YEARS and that one of his core traits is that he's a ladies man gay, and if you wanted more lgbtq representation then why not use Kitty Pryde who is Bi or Psylocke who is also Bi or FRICKIN Northstar who is literally gay and married, if you want even MORE proof that proves Iceman was straight then read Uncanny X-Force 2010-2012 #24 where the comic LITERALLY opens up with Iceman sleeping with a dozen Prostitutes while in Madripoor. my only hope is that he is included on the Mcu X-Men roster but if they're gonna make him gay then i dont want him on the team. (or make him Bi even then i would much rather that they kept him straight)
How you got 51k subs but cant read? "Gwenpool" is not a female version on gwen stacy or a version of deadpool
he literally said that 😭
How you been on this website three years but cant watch videos? "Nando" did not say either of those things
As stated in the video, Gwenpool is literally explicitly based on the variant cover that made a Deadpool version of Gwen Stacy. It's stated in the authors notes, and iirc, even in the book itself.
How can you claim to know what she is if you haven't even read the books?
@SimonBuchanNz Except the Fact that the creators and thr character state otherwise in the content is based on
@@wilsmif watch the first 30 seconds