if you sleeve a gen 3 block and get a boss crank with the rods you have you can make upwards of 2k HP. i think that was brett lasala's setup for a while. you can run stock gen 2 or 3 cams and make a ton of power. Lots of people run the comp stage 3 NA cams when they upgrade. even when boosting the engine.
I am working on my first swap. Not my first engine tho. Ls3/4L80 in a 03'Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I thought about a 5 OH swap but it is crazy expensive. Friggin $1800 plus just for the cams. I'm going to do a 5 OH swap in my next Vic. The only reason I am doing a Ls3 instead of a 6 OH or 5.3 is I found I found the block for $500 and a set of low milage 821 heads for $300. How much are you asking for the harness?
Was going to say if you dont do coyote go 4v teksid, theyre super cheap and underappreciated and can make a ton of power, look up joey salas new edge he races FL N/T with a 4.6 teksid setup in street car trim vs full blow race cars. To my understanding people usually go gen 3 bottom end with gen 2 or 1 heads. If you're going to build a bottom end look up the predator block , its cheap and thats what fast forward racing uses in the snot rocket, they just resleeve it.
Depends on the budget and goals. For a low budget project that’ll go bottom 5s I absolutely recommend it. It’s a fantastic setup to learn on without spending a lot and you can still go pretty fast with the right setup
All gen 1 engines (F150&Mustang) have the same firing order. Ford did Ford things and changed the firing order on gen 2 and up F150. Gen 1 and 2 cams and timing phasers are different physically. Plus the cam timing range is a little different. I’m building my first Coyote and good info is kinda hard to find. Edited to add: Gen 2 heads are best budget wise. Then you get into what you have on the bench. GT350, SCJ, Predator in no particular order.
@@OverydeMotorsports not in person running the DI side of the fuel system but I’ve never looked into it honestly. I forgot to add that gen 1 primary timing chains are the strongest. So most people run gen 1 cams. Then people buy aftermarket locked phasers to run (I think 5.4) secondary chains.
@@OverydeMotorsports yeah people are running Holley. You need the higher end models to used both factory wide bands. Plus you get all the I/Os. Some people run Mega Squirt but there is even less information. I’ve ran SBFs with EFI for years. Seems like it’s harder to get solid intel on the Coyote setups, even with the internet. Maybe I suck at researching now or people are keeping it close to their chest. 🤷🏻♂️
Brett LaSalle has the fastest Coyote 302 stock block with sleeves he won every drag radia class he entered this year he will give you great advice really cool fella good luck looking forward to seeing another Ford powered mustang fly Chevy killer forever baby l love it
Moi je vivrait la bha jamais derrière toujours première ma caisse vos moteur sont genial il paraît mais peugeot racheter gmc CHRISLER tout le monde savait que Peugeot était en faillite dans c est année 78 et c est la 205 gti qui a sauvait la marque c est fou ca moi je peux pas y croire 🤔😑sa donne du boulot a nos 2 pays j espère 👌👍
As much as I love the LS stuff, Ive definitely considered moving to a coyote as well....guys are absolutely flying with those things! But i just had a pretty bossy powerglide built with a fixed chevy bell, so im stuck for a while....excited to see what you do with it. Just peaking through the parts you got for sale on Facebook....do you still have the dual rail high ram around? And if you end up not selling the LS harness I might be interested in that too.....
Good luck in your changeover. Unfortunately I am bound to part ways due to brand loyalty. JK I can't watch anymore because I hate watching folks burn up money.
I will stay tuned. I'm trying to quit trolling but going to coyote folks make me fall off the wagon. You were a fine rep for the LS brand and you are always welcome back. 😮 @@OverydeMotorsports
I mean it’s your choice man no one else’s. I look at them and then I look at Nigel and other’s and say nah I’m good but either way man you know I’ll be rooting for you and watching the videos
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Hate to see it!!! Good luck with the Coyote build though... Should be nice once you get it all sorted!
Thanks man!
I would get gen2 heads and forget the vct controller just lock the cams with aftermarket ecu.
Kinda my plan now. Seems like wasted time otherwise haha
if you sleeve a gen 3 block and get a boss crank with the rods you have you can make upwards of 2k HP. i think that was brett lasala's setup for a while. you can run stock gen 2 or 3 cams and make a ton of power. Lots of people run the comp stage 3 NA cams when they upgrade. even when boosting the engine.
Interesting! I got steel rods for now but we will see how fast we can go! Sleeving the block. Undecided on heads so far
I am working on my first swap. Not my first engine tho. Ls3/4L80 in a 03'Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I thought about a 5 OH swap but it is crazy expensive. Friggin $1800 plus just for the cams. I'm going to do a 5 OH swap in my next Vic. The only reason I am doing a Ls3 instead of a 6 OH or 5.3 is I found I found the block for $500 and a set of low milage 821 heads for $300. How much are you asking for the harness?
Nice! That’s a good deal! I’m asking 300$ for the harness
The harness just hooks ro which ever Hlloey? I am thinking of running the Terminator max.
@@GrandPitoVic yessir terminator x hp or dominator
Twin turbos are life!
They sure are!
Was going to say if you dont do coyote go 4v teksid, theyre super cheap and underappreciated and can make a ton of power, look up joey salas new edge he races FL N/T with a 4.6 teksid setup in street car trim vs full blow race cars. To my understanding people usually go gen 3 bottom end with gen 2 or 1 heads. If you're going to build a bottom end look up the predator block , its cheap and thats what fast forward racing uses in the snot rocket, they just resleeve it.
Gonna rip this gen 3 block for now. I’ll sleeve it myself and if all goes well I’ll definitely be doing more
So you probaly wouldn’t recommend doing a SBE T Ls?
Depends on the budget and goals. For a low budget project that’ll go bottom 5s I absolutely recommend it. It’s a fantastic setup to learn on without spending a lot and you can still go pretty fast with the right setup
@OverydeMotorsports what coil brackets are on the 5.3?
Motion relocation brackets with threaded bungs welded on the valve cover
@@OverydeMotorsports okay thank you
All gen 1 engines (F150&Mustang) have the same firing order. Ford did Ford things and changed the firing order on gen 2 and up F150. Gen 1 and 2 cams and timing phasers are different physically. Plus the cam timing range is a little different. I’m building my first Coyote and good info is kinda hard to find.
Edited to add: Gen 2 heads are best budget wise. Then you get into what you have on the bench. GT350, SCJ, Predator in no particular order.
You ever seen anyone with gen 3 stuff on Holley efi?
@@OverydeMotorsports not in person running the DI side of the fuel system but I’ve never looked into it honestly. I forgot to add that gen 1 primary timing chains are the strongest. So most people run gen 1 cams. Then people buy aftermarket locked phasers to run (I think 5.4) secondary chains.
Gotcha I’d block the di off. Just need to pick up the cam sensor basically
@@OverydeMotorsports yeah people are running Holley. You need the higher end models to used both factory wide bands. Plus you get all the I/Os. Some people run Mega Squirt but there is even less information. I’ve ran SBFs with EFI for years. Seems like it’s harder to get solid intel on the Coyote setups, even with the internet. Maybe I suck at researching now or people are keeping it close to their chest. 🤷🏻♂️
Brett LaSalle has the fastest Coyote 302 stock block with sleeves he won every drag radia class he entered this year he will give you great advice really cool fella good luck looking forward to seeing another Ford powered mustang fly Chevy killer forever baby l love it
Hell yes!!!
Moi je vivrait la bha jamais derrière toujours première ma caisse vos moteur sont genial il paraît mais peugeot racheter gmc CHRISLER tout le monde savait que Peugeot était en faillite dans c est année 78 et c est la 205 gti qui a sauvait la marque c est fou ca moi je peux pas y croire 🤔😑sa donne du boulot a nos 2 pays j espère 👌👍
Can't wait to see the new setup perform next season! How fast can coyote motors reliably spin, will it still shift around 8,000?
9000 haha
I knew it! Going dry or wet sump?
Wet sump still
Nice to see a LS to Coyote!
Oh yaa!
As much as I love the LS stuff, Ive definitely considered moving to a coyote as well....guys are absolutely flying with those things! But i just had a pretty bossy powerglide built with a fixed chevy bell, so im stuck for a while....excited to see what you do with it.
Just peaking through the parts you got for sale on Facebook....do you still have the dual rail high ram around? And if you end up not selling the LS harness I might be interested in that too.....
I have and will sell both if you would like
Great Choice!
You don’t want Gen 3 heads because of the Direct Injection system. Gen 2 is the easiest choice. Gen 1 are good too.
I can block all that off I just don’t know about getting cam signal
Flying J, is that Jamie? I've had a motor built by him, he's a good guy, freaking crazy dude. Glad to see a Ford in a Ford.
Yessir It is! He is an awesome guy!
Koy yo tae
Yaaaaaaa
Your gonna hurt a lot of egos out there but A wise choice none the less.
Hahaha I hope so!
COYOTE YES
I’m so stoked!
Lucky! Wish I could do this move
It should be pretty sweet!
Good luck in your changeover. Unfortunately I am bound to part ways due to brand loyalty. JK I can't watch anymore because I hate watching folks burn up money.
Hahah dollar to dollar it’s honestly cheaper then a aftermarket block ls deal
I will stay tuned. I'm trying to quit trolling but going to coyote folks make me fall off the wagon.
You were a fine rep for the LS brand and you are always welcome back. 😮 @@OverydeMotorsports
Gonna butthurt lot of ls guys! (Myself included)🤣 can’t wait to see how it turns out!
Hahaha I hope it goes well!
SML that bad pony!
Hahahah I’d be broke then
Do a Godzilla engine
Nahh head development just isn’t there yet
I mean it’s your choice man no one else’s. I look at them and then I look at Nigel and other’s and say nah I’m good but either way man you know I’ll be rooting for you and watching the videos
@@edwinrosadojr4592 oh for sure. I’m not against any of it. I just think for the amount of oem parts a coyote can use can save so much money
Brian Wolfe cnc godzilla heads flow close to 400 cfm. Willis performance for godzilla stuff.
@@wbrettgray6544 deck is awfully thin tho. Head gasket probs
Great move you will be happier with the coyote motor it's a real beast cubic inch to cubic inch nothing will beat
Absolutely!!