Moisture Is Van Life's BIGGEST Problem | VENTILATION and CONDENSATION
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Condensation inside your van is a Huge concern and the answer is pretty simple. AIR FLOW. Today we chat with my friends at Ray Outfitted and talk about condensation and ventilation living in a van. When it comes to living off grid your new tiny home is going to face moisture problems if you don't think about ventilating your small living space.
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He looks like he’s being held hostage haha
Wondering if he wears the short pants, she the long.
@@rpoer nope, he is the introvert and she the extrovert. I can totally relate to him. He is just not as comfortable in front of the camera as she is. My guess anyways...
He's blinking Morse code
They're so cute together!! I like how she is so much more comfortable talking and expressing herself on camera, but still gives him the opportunity and encourages him to talk. Beautiful couple!
One of the most informative videos I have ever seen anywhere on the net. Great info 👍👍👍
This moisture problem has always been a concern of mine with van Living. Many thanks for posting.
I'll be darned, I actually did something right in my DIY van build. I have plenty of gaps to allow air flow behind the walls, ceiling, bed, etc. in my build. lol.
dont ya love when a "plan" comes together?! lol
the first will be the last
I don't believe it works unless you blow hot air into these gaps. Sure, airflow under the bed is great, but if humid air gets between insulation and metal surface and the temperature outside is below dew point, not even mentioning freezing temp, water vapor will inevitably condense on the metal just as it does on glass and won't evaporate for a long time. It might even freeze on the internal side of metal surface. For the context, I am concerned about high humidity weather in UK or Ireland.
Water vapor will 100% condenser behind even air gapped walls. I purposely left a piece of my tongue and groove off to prove this. I made sure everything is off the metal and then keep my roof vent open and windows cracked even during winter which seems to help
I love when you have Madison and Rainor in your videos, they are awesome fun people by themselves even if they didn't have a Vanlife business. That they DO have a Vanlife business and are willing to share so much experience and knowledge is so awesome!!!! So no worries Chrome, I love all four of you!!! Thank you, and Madison and Rainor for the awesome videos!!!
Love those two! Thanks for having them on.
Love the information guys ♥️
Thank you so much!
Stay weird and be safe!
Thank you I just got a van and watched loads of videos and finally you said it all. Thank you very much you helped me out a lot.
Thank you thank you thank you, I worked construction for 20 years. I have the vapour barrier in my pile of building materials for the van. A mistake you saved me from doing.
Very important to know and helpful. Rocking it
Awsome tips!!! Thanks a lot!! Realy helpfull information, this was one of my bigest worrys and i think i know exacly what and how i will do my build now!! 😃 Thanks to madison and ray for there knowlage and to chrome for sharing it! 👍👍
Both of them are very intelligent and educated. If I lived in Canada, my first stop would be to there office. Very nice video and thank you for the info, it’s definitely good to know!
A LOT of GREAT info! This was amazing - how necessary!
Thank you for sharing hunnies! xoxo
The best of the best in van info in collaboration! Love it!
WOW! super information, every angle
Covered . Well done!
Very cool. Thanks for the information 👍🏻
Been living in my van 4 10yrs in Europe and Australia & found this video so informative...well done 👍
Great content . Very helpful and enlightening . ENJOY the beer
I had planned on getting a roof vent at the RV bone yard but now I will for sure
7:54 MAXX AIR Roof Vents are THR BEST!
They're quieter, more speeds (10) and have a Built-in rain Cover!
Very informative.. another great content from you Chromo :)
Great info. Moisture when living in a small space is a constant problem which can lead to mold and mildew. Mold spores can make your home toxic and ruin your health.
Great Info Thank You!
Good morning from West Virginia. Love ya Chrome and Cruz ✌️🤘 👍
I was working a hour outside the city. On my way home I seen a abandoned yard . In it was a 1990s house trailer. It was all rotted out . So some guy had a dream to get away from the city bought a nice place got a trailer. His heat source was propane . It looks like they stayed 6 years . That is how long it took to get moldy and get them sick . They had to move back to the city . But if they had known about condensation most likely they would have still been there happy and healthy.
Great vid Chrome an Cruz. I'll check Ray's Outfitted Godspeed You all. And Chrome, one more thing Hi Danika
Wow i got to tell you those kids know there stuff very good video well done 👍👍 🇨🇦🛠️🛠️
I love your videos!! Especially the beer part!!! 🍺🍺
Great video,tho if it's raining or even damp outside, sucking in and blowing damp air out isn't going to help the moisture problem, best thing I have found for moisture problem is a desiccant dehumidifier.
Thanks for this info!
Love when you include Madison and Ray - always great information
I used an espar dry heat diesel heater and opened my roof vent in the winter. Tried all kinds of things but would have condensation on the windshields even with insulated covers. Then had water draining like a faucet from the ceiling when I finally moved the vehicle after a month. Had everything checked, no leaks in the roof of my brand new sprinter. It was all condensation ! Now I run a small dehumidifier when I’m hooked up to shore power. No more rain the the van!
I live in a short bus and condensation is hell lol I'm 💯 grateful that Badge installed a vent cover for me. 💖
Excellent info.
Madison is so well spoken and her knowledge of their business blows me away I love how Rayner (sorry if i spelled wrong) Just lets her Talk and then he pipes in occasionally ..He is super intelligent and when I am fortunate enough to listen to them talk about van life ...I almost can understand ...i say almost because electric is so confusing..But they take the time to break it down...I can understand why Chrome has such a special place in him for them....They are a beautiful couple inside and out and rayners eyes ...OMG!!! Thanks for always taking the time to help us understand!! Blessings to you both and Chrome and Cruzy Love You weirdos!!!!!
Traci Losee. I hear you. However, women don’t ever need permission to talk. I think they are respectful of giving each other opportunities to contribute to the conversation.
Raynor is the mechanical knowledge behind it all. Madison has the gift of presentation to bring it all together. They are a great team.
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Ones an introvert, the other is the extravert, I'll let you guess which one is which
put a household hot air floor register in your floor to get air in when the weather outside is " frightfull "......wrap the backside of the register with window screne to keep bugs out when vent is open
spent a day and night trying to figure out how to insulate/create a subfloor. tight fit/tape with foam board vs havelock wool and lots of air flow. I'm leaning towards the havelock and lots of air flow now....one month to figure it out!!
WOW!!!! A vanlifer actually camped in his van and learned the real problem is circulation not insulating (with wool :rolleyes:) and $5000 solar power systems.
Great info. Thanks. Luv Cruziebear @ the start. Still makes me laugh, as soon as I see that face, LOL. Robyn, Australia
Ventilation in the UK during 4 months of winter may cause condensation as it holds almost 100% moisture some days. Alternative method like dry heat and dehumidifier are essential.
I was hoping for someone from UK to comment on this issue. I have been living in Ireland for many years and condensing dehumidifier was the best purchase I made early on. I will be moving into a large van in the summer and I am planning to take dehumidifier with me for winter season. It drains about 260 watts and requires inverter. Condensing water vapor takes the same amount of energy as boiling water, but I should be able to run it for 2-3 hours a day and still have a decent autonomy in poor weather. Decent dehumidifier dries small rooms quickly. Probably there are more modern and efficient devices, so I might have to consider upgrade.
@@pavel9652 A peltier dehumidifier work ok, small 10 Watt units USB DC is more efficient than AC units for Vans
Just so happens I'm staying the SW US now and think that van travel in this area is even more beneficial due to constant low humidity most of the time in some areas, like Arizona desert. I may try van life some day and keep tabs on the issues.
I was thinking about doing insulation a bit different: have it offset just a bit from the wall so more air flow can occur behind it but still keep all the gaps filled. Have floor or other vents in that gap, too, but also in the inner area, have floor vents and active ventilation plus the dry diesel heater of course.
Thanks for the info, I have a great deal of windows in my van, and may get one of those max/fantastic fans anyway whenever I get a chance to, for now I'll use the little fans in the little pop out windows that are in the 3 of my big windows to help circulate the ventilation. I just gotten a newer van than my last one, this one is a 2000 GMC Savana 1500 full size conversion van Southern Comfort Edition, with a topper (the topper isn't flat, it one of those that are kinda arrow dinamic kind that already been installed the time the van was made and sold, there have been many previous owners before me, and at least I can stand up inside this one. I live in Odessa TX USA, and much of it here is desert climate, rarely any humidity at times, except during the short winters here. However, whenever it's ok to travel again due this COVID-19, I like to come visit Canada too, in my van that is😊 thanks Chrome too, for sharing this video, give Cruzzie hugs for me 🤗💖 be blessed and safe y'all 💖
You are so cool. Love your channel
so true, thank you for using common sense and actual experience, this is really appreciated, sometimes I think engineers and van builders are going too far trying to plastic wrap/bubble wrap their vehicle and seal up all the external door plugs so it becomes impossible for the inevitable moisture to get out like you have said, it makes sense to let it breathe. A house has vents built in the brickwork, just like a vehicle has the D pillar vents, it's so simple to understand really, especially when there's lovely people like yourselves teaching via these videos.
Its funny - framed homes are the same. We build them to be air tight, but than we need air movement. If you don't have air movement you will have mold
prettymochame just T yes we won on 100 year home that breath a lot and very little problems. Now we have to built air tight and bring air in.
Have you ever built a home? They are not built to be airtight, we would die.
Great advice
Great info.
I live on Vancouver island and found that my wave 3 doesn't actually put out a lot of moisture. Realized this When it stopped raining so much but was still cold so I needed heat. My roof vent is 100% of the time open a little as is my high top window. I also have several little 360 fans that I always use one of when im cooking.
Yes condensation is a huge prob in van life. I used to get sick and stay sick because of it. Then I decided to finally insulate it completely. Never had any problems since. But I also made sure to coat the roof in a coating of rubber roof that way no water really makes it through that barrier
You ought to see the anti rust liquids tests on here. They peel that stuff off to reveal rusted metal underneath.
@@perrymason8471 Man that sucks
love your videos,
Chrome I never see you talk about how to stay cool in your van in the summer there plenty of vid on how to stay warm. Just a thought love your channel bro. ✌
Leaving the back doors open while backed into a shrubbery to camo the ventilation and having the fan running for circulation. He has videos for this in past vids while working at golf clubhouse where he use to DJ.
That still does not answer my question because in that vid he also placed a air conditioner in the back and plugged it up at the venue he was at but I won't to know what do you do on a daily bases when your not at a venue that you can plug up a air conditioner.
Well I'm sure there are other ways to stay cool other then a air conditioner and I was wonting some ways that chrome did to stay cool in the summer by the way this question was for chrome not everyone else
To stay cool, you’d need to follow the weather; get yourself to higher elevations where temperature decreases by about 3.3°F for every 1,000 feet up you go in elevation.
Buy a 5,000 BTU wall unit AC and a cheap gas generator. Roll down the window and throw that sucker in.
what s amazing to me is that all those companies that make ceiling vents and skylights still havent figured out what people really need, its not like mobile living has just started
Thanks for the great video! I have a 1970 VW Riviera poptop camper so that prevents pitting a vent in the ceiling. I have sliding windows (not the jalousie - ? - kind). Can you recommend a way to vent without getting rain in the bus if raining? Also re insulation, if not using a vapor barrier would you just recommend using a waterproof but breathable form of insulation? Thanks!
air exchange is the key point
Great video 🍺
aircon is the key. Mine in on every single mile I drive. together with the heating of the engine it creates very dry air. so aircon on and ventlation to max whenever you drive.
I live in Australia and look for videos just like this, i have a wagon, and starting to deck it out, these videos are a godsend
Like watching these two.
Rayoutfitted are great. They explain things really well. 😊
This is a great sharing about dry heat and wet heat resources. Now I truly regret that I got this Mr. Buddy as I live in Vancouver and it rains a lot in winter here. But any suggestion on which dry heat sources is most welcome so I dont make more mistakes. It is trye that my van windiows fogged up when it rains and I usually just turn on my car heater and the fog usually goes away in less than 2 minutes.
I have been learning a lot from your videos. I'm starting a build soon. Not a van but a cargo trailer from weeroll. If I have any questions during my build is there a way to get in touch with you for further advice?
LOL, and I remember Chrome saying he DIDN'T EVER WANT A ROOF VENT! ! ! 7:00
He didn't want or "need" lots of things he has now despite being told otherwise.
I have 2 fantastic fans. Can't leave them open in the rain but I have left mine cracked for ventilation without any issues.
I don't know if this can be swapped over to vans, but the tent I use is excellent at removing condensation. The top of the tent has a real breathable material, and windows that can be zipped down enough for flow. The only condensation may be on the under side of the rain fly, but not in the tent. I can even dry my towel and wash cloth in it with no problem.
That is one of the most important videos when it comes to not getting the surprise later.
One thing I wanna know is how does the Nespar Diesel Heater performs and how it affects the humidity.
O! you are now talking about the heat source...[ @10:00 ] but no mention of the Nespar !? !?
They provide a wealth of van life knowledge. Thank you!
First? VERY useful video!
What were the names of the heat sources they recommended? I didn't catch the names? Thank you!!
Awesome dude ✋😀 high 5
So would pegboard over foam for wallcovering be a viable option, + leaving the ends open as she described?
I love it when you have them on as well. They make me feel 100% trust in them and their knowledge. Kudos.
Where did they bought the white fan? I need something like that! Please let me know. If possible, send me a link. Thank you. Great Video as always. :-)
这个不开窗的理念是效率最高的，隐私/保温/降噪是享受自然的基础
What are your thoughts on moisture absorbers such as DampRid in conjunction with vent fans? More as an added protection.
So what does RayOutfitters suggest if someone is travelling with 3 dogs.. (2 Lge blk, 1sml) .. I guess I'll need lots of windows? Thanks for the info.
I heard that wood furnaces a perfect to keep a van dry. My plan was to have a big roof window over the bed in the back and a Airmax Fan in the front over the kitchen. That way I have circulation and I can climb on the roof from my bed. Anyone has experience with this setup?
I have a 28 foot van. It was acquired with foam insulation. I put up panels directly to the ceiling and walls. I'm in Alabama. The humidity trashed all my panels. I have an escape hatch open most of the time. What might you suggest?
What about closed cell insulation? Still, use gaps for the air flow?
What I have done with my van's front windows is install rain / wind guards so the windows can be left slightly open. The guards prevent rain from getting in and also make it hard to break in with the window slightly open. One thing they don't work on is blowing snow to my irritation a few times. I have also built a window cover that has a fold down flap that lets air in and is high enough so that the interior in not visible from the outside. I have back and side windows which I can open with heavy curtains so both air and privacy can be maintained. So far no screens so I burn mosquito coils placed so the smoke goes out the down wind side. Simple but it works.
For ppl who don't have vent fans. Ppl can use moisture absorbing pellets. I get mine at dollar tree store. I use about 3 a month.
In my next build I think I'm going to ventilate underneath instead using space in the side panels. My maxxair roof vent is great but consumes about 40 watts and i think i can get the same results from two 6" USB fans at 5 watts and not have to make holes in my roof. Also air from under the van will be cooler. I am wondering about the vent opening I can go for fan like this if the van is pull and push air from a panel gap that is about 6"x10". I wonder if I drill Six USD quarter sized holes at the very bottom of the panel gap with a mosquito net inside if that will allow for full air flow in and out?
In addition to air flow questions, i do have concerns about sucking air from roadway gutters and sucking in exhaust.
Ever consider an exhaust vent on the side of van? Like top corners, so you can route 1 or 2 pathways for an entrance and exit, or just exit; meaning you can hide it between the walls of the van, which is cool.
✌️❤️🐶.. ty for sharing
HEY. I didn't get to see Cruziebear...what's up with that?? I miss my little buddy. LoL 🤭 sorry it's just that he's my favorite part of the videos.
You should watch it again. He was at the beginning
Would opening the dashboard vent from recirc to outside work ?
What about in winter when its stored? I have everything closed up to keep the rain and snow out. No moist heat source. I do notice some condensation on all the windows? Any suggestion anyone! Thanks! Love the content chrome buddy! Cheers from prince Edward island
Your breath will deposit quit a bit of moisture to the inside of the van.that is part of the condensation you are seeing in you van in the winter
Any surface that is colder than dew point will cause condensation of water vapor. I know dehumidifiers work. I used to dry normal car with dehumidifier every month or two during periods of no use. There was always some humidity. It gets in from the outside. You exhale 1L of water every day.
Hey there I’m from Montreal Canada
wow it's like ppl who use woodstoves in their van knew a thing or two..
Hello from Romania! For people with big enough electrical systems, why not an electric dehumidifier?
We're trying to locate and get the name of your fan. On video from last year.
You called it CONFRAMO ????
PLEASE respond.
Thanks
Wayne
I heart that wood furnaces a perfect to keep a van dry. My plan was to have a big roof window over the bed in the back and a Airmax Fan in the front over the kitchen. That way I have circulation and I can climb on the roof from my bed. Anyone has experience with this setup?
I now have a van. I cant wait to go on my adventures
Whatya-get?
@@razor3003
a dodge grand caravan
@@elizabethtrotter8403 cool! thx
Hello chrome and cruzybearrr🙋
My curtains got moldy from dampness by being near the windows.
In the winter, how do you balance keeping the van warm with airing it out?
Unless you seal the floor an have a brand new van, there will be air gaps. Also, all vehicles have gaps in the dash, where wires come through and esp the vents (leave 'em open). I have an '05 Sprinter and when its windy I feel air come through, and I have no roof vents.
Nice video, well explained. Here in Europe we are in tight position with coronovarius. I pray there to be better. I was in Austria and was control everywhere
Have fun
What about using a catalytic heat source with a sealed, internal propane box that has a vent hole to the exterior? Will this create drier heat in the van?
It’s not the propane bottle that gives off moisture it’s the heater. The Olympian wave three is definitely dryer then the Mr. buddy heater. A substantial difference. I have the Olympian wave three
I covered my windows with a wall. I have the glass then blackout material reflectix then pink foam board then wall. All foil taped. Im getting moisture between the glass and blackout material. How do i stop it. Any solutions? What do i do. I don't want mold.
With some searching, there maybe a company that makes a DE-HUMIDIFIER that would work for vans.
What about using your MAXX fans to pull air through your van in a low setting that will ventilate at night and still keep any side windows closed?
Dehumidifiers are my holy grail in the summers 🤣