NEW Land Rover Defender 110 Roof Cross Bar Fitting Instructions VPLER0178 VPLER0179
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- In this video we have a go at fitting the genuine Land Rover roof rack cross bars on our new 2020 Land Rover Defender. Its pretty straight forward but as ever Land Rover seem to make it a little more complex than is perhaps needed. The part number for these roof cross bars is VPLER0178 ( Defender 110 ) and VPLER0179 ( Defender 90 ).
Thank you gentlemen. This video extinguished my fears of adjusting my factory installed bars.
Glad it helped
Fitted mine today after watching this video a couple of times. I didnt take the end caps off, I just took the keys out and moved the casing over the top. seems to work and didnt fall down.
I fitted them on my own which meant it took longer as had to keep shuffling sides. It was pretty easy though so thanks for the video.
Glad it helped
Excellent video, as always, Simon. JLR really should be paying you, as you are finding all the faults in their dodgy instructions as you fit the accessories so they can update the instructions. Or - they coulkd give me a free Defender and I will go through all the instructiions and correctr them for them ;-)
Today I was viewing this video and reading the instructions on the Land Rover website - and they have updated them to be clear / no more confusion on left vs right side!
Maybe they do listen to me.... my work here is done !
Thanks for letting me know.
As ever guys, without your video I would have been lost and confused - on my second defender now so more goodies to come!
Hi Steve - glad it helped.
Better to get Thule evo bars and the 753 feet with 3040 fit kit. Updated t slot allows use without having to cut the rubber piece and since bars extend beyond feet they are a lot more useful. Also slightly lower.
Wish I had seen this before I ordered the LR ones. I had been debating whether to buy the Thule ones for a better over hang but couldnt get a firm answer as to whether they fitted the Defender Roof Rails. anyways, fitted now. its only for Roof Box for vacations so hoping they come off easy :)
Great job Simon and Tyler! Love seeing these videos come out! I also received my rear tie hook trim pieces today! Keep the great content coming!!
Let know how you get on with your rear hooks !
@@L663 Will do! Any chance you will do a video fitting the extended wheel arches?
@@JeffMaf Yes we have these and may get to this in the next couple of days...at least on the non damaged side of the car !
@@L663 I'm waiting to find out how much the repair to that door will cost - it looks a very expensive repair to me, maybe needing a complete new door ??
Port and starboard would remove any confusion.
Are you a sailor ? Tyler is ex Navy ! but he tells me there is old and new port !
What is the total height after the rails are installed?
Always love your videos! Well done!
Hi Simon and Tyler, great video, and very useful. However, the roof bars are very close together, and not much use for carrying long items such as your plasterboard, or a ladder. Can you fit them further apart by just tightening the allen key, without using the cut out locators?
Can you provide added height from the roof to the top of the cross bars? Just want to make sure i can fit my Defender into the garage with the installed cross bars. Thanks for the great video as always!
I get 5.25" on mine. About 2" taller than the sharkfin antenna
Video invaluable. Could put on alone. Note that when the side cover is removed ( which does make it easier doing alone), they are side specific . You can tell if they get mixed up as I managed to do by aligning the bump on top of the cover.
Thanks for this video, I'm just wondering if there's a 3 bar kit for larger loads, such as a roof top tent so it doesn't turn into a U when 2 adults are in it. The alternative would be a noisy roof rack I suppose.
Hi 🙋♂️ getting better and better looks , Cary more stuff very use full .
Thanks 🙏
Yes but i need to check out to see if there is much wind noise ! I may actually take these off next week and fit the large explorer pack roof rack.
Great video Simon👍🏻. It seems JLR have actually thought about the fixings 😮 - these are a lot easier to install compared to the Discovery Sport bars. They clamp around the roof rails and in my experience are somewhat reluctant to come off again. 😉
They are pretty good but are limited in that there are only a couple of places you can position the bars.
Great Video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for the great advice. Turned you on while I was installing.
Sounds odd but i think i know what you meant !
Someone might have already said it but the “RL” on the sticker on one means “Rear Left” and the “FL” on the other bar means “Front Left”.
The front and back cross bars are actually a different size. The rails on the roof are not parallel it tapers toward the back. It took me forever to figure that out. At least it is this way on my 2020 Defender.
Hey Simon, great job! I drive a Defender 130 and I really want to keep its original look without adding too many external accessories that might increase wind noise. However, I'm thinking about installing an awning that I can easily attach and remove. My Defender has a panoramic sunroof and a small moonroof at the back for the 3rd-row seats. I've been searching for a solution to mount an ARB awning without any visible crossbars on the roof windows, so the family and I can still enjoy the open sky. I've looked into the Thule WingBar Edge, but I'm not completely sold on it. Do you have any suggestions or insights? Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Hi, did you get a wingbar edge eventually? I'm also looking to get the same. Also of you've got a sunroof. Did this effect its operation at all? Thanks
I doubt its for vortex disruption looks more like for load grip. The question is how noisy are they when you're doing 70 mph? Every roof bar I have ever purchased looks nice but always introduces a lot of noise. They are more aerodynamic than the ones I have and I wonder how much difference it makes.
I am sure the rubber is a grip strip but was wondering why they chose the sloping pattern...
@@L663 it's to make them look pretty'
I have the same Thule Wingbars on my Jaguar XF Sportbrake - very quiet. I use T-track Eye Bolts with retractable ratchet straps
Just installed mine, they are howling. I didn't put in the rubber strip, going to add it soon.
Mine are still howling at 70mph with the strips, stickers on driver's left 😭
When will Tyler become available on website, can we pre-order a "Tyler" yet?😄
Well done guys
He is super handy for these roof jobs - he is super tall !
I had the crossrails fitted on my Defender by the Land Rover Garage, Marshalls in Peterborough. I‘ll have a look to see which side the stickers are on, and pay attention to the aerodynamic profile of the bars
Thanks please let us know. Also make sure you have your keys and the MONSTER hex key !
@@L663 - the stickers on my crossbars fitted by JLR at Marshalls, Peterborough are on the passenger side of the vehicle (RHD). And they left me with the keys and Monster Hex Key!
@@promenteryrobbins Excellent so the "right side" as per the instructions is the "left side" Thanks for checking
@@L663 - exactly - „right side“ as you‘d look at the front of the vehicle, i.e. the passenger side of a right-hand-drive vehicle. I‘m carrying an iKamper on mine - I‘m trying to work out whether I could also fit one of the side boxes together with the cross-bars given the available slots in the roof-rails, and still avoid covering the antenna with the iKamper.
Have you compared them to the bars for the Disco 3/4? I’m wondering if they are interchangeable?
Wingbar - thick side to the front or you get horrendous wind noise
How is the wind noise while driving with these cross bars?? Appreciate any help / thoughts…. Thanks!!
There is some - but these are much better than the expedition roof rack. The joy of these bars is they are easy to remove so you only need to put up with the wind noise when you need the bars.
Can anyone help me for the cross bar brackets install? I need to know the type of torx wrench size to install.
so what if you dont have access to the www for fitting details?//
The best thing was the line in the online instructions ( thee are online only ) that states...
"Make sure a copy of these instructions are kept in a safe place after use. They are required for future removal and installation."
Great video. Do you know what the distance is between the front and back mounting rails on the roof bars when on a 110?
Hi Guys, Super useful and enjoyable as always!
Can you confirm that the 94kg limit is the dynamic load?
Thinking of a light rooftop tent that will be far less than 94kg, but when we're parked we'd reach 200kg with me and my wife (and the dog).
Good question - I have had me and the wife and the ARB roof tent on the roof without a problem - i suspect this is some dynamic loading as you suggest.
@@L663 Thank you so much for your feedback!
Need to get the sidesteps to get things onto the roof.
Yes need some form of extra height ! may also protect the side of my car when i lend to others !
Right side vs Right Hand Side
Right side vs Correct side
Proof reading fail
Though arrow on the sticker did appeared to point to the LHS of the vehicle.
Are the Front and Rear bars different heights?
So, the cross bars have fixed position and can't be adjusted fore & aft? and if you leave the key in when you open the cover, you damage the paint? who "designed" this?
I seem to have a gift of being half stupid and half astute.... stupid enough to make all the mistakes but astute enough to see that Land Rover could have been clearer on their instructions !
Another great video guys, I wonder if it’s not a rude question 😬 could you please reveille how much all the up grades you have made come too??
Yes we can do that .. we are adding most of these items to the website now aswell !
Hi Simon, Happy New Year!
What is the height of your car? Can I go with the new defender 110 inside a garage with a height of 1m90?
I swear your just trying to annoy JLR now 😂
No - we are friends !
Technical question Simon....... I don’t like driving around with my roof bars on if there is nothing to carry........ is it ok to use the big key thing to unscrew the bit that goes “click” when correctly tightened or is it a case of once the cross bars are on, that’s it you aren’t ever meant to take them off again? Reason for wanting to take them off is also because I have the opening panoramic roof and if you tilt the rear edge open it sits just about under the front crossbar and whistles - no problem with the roof fully open, the whistle stops. I haven’t noticed any significant increase in fuel consumption running with them on for the last 2 month too.
I took the bara off straight after the video and they came off fine... i cant see what makes the click noise... and not sure if they will click again but they are designed to go on and off the car so i think you should be fine. Let me know if you want me to double check tomorrow.
Thanks, I collected mine from the dealers this morning after 3 days in the workshop tracing the rainwater leak, which hopefully is now cured by replacement of the fixed section of the window on the door and they have cured numerous rattles. I asked the service technician about removal of the bars too and about the click and was told to use the big Allen key thing to unscrew the hold down screw, the bars are designed to be removed and replaced multiple times. Now my problem is I cannot find the 4 keys.............. they’ve been on my kitchen counter for weeks, I must have tidied them away to somewhere for safe keeping......
@@timoliver8940 IS there any number on the lock - i am not at work at the moment and cannot check.
Happy to post you one of my keys....not really sure why you need 4 !
Thanks for the kind offer Simon, this morning I’ve found that for some reason (old age possibly!) I had put one key onto each key ring for my TDi300 Defender 90 instead of the rings for the new one. The key number is stamped on the bit of the lock barrel that isn’t covered by the plastic finisher so I took the old Defender key rings out to new car and tested and now all OK. As an aside the tow / recovery eye trim finishers are now installed on mine and it looks finished now! Why a premium car maker like LR hasn’t added finishers (they do for roof rail systems that you cannot see once the rails are fitted) to the kit is beyond me.
Can the OEM cross bars accommodate large Thule roof boxes does anyone know?
Do you know Simon if any aftermarket (well, genuine Thule) bars can fit to the rails in the same way? Or is that sliding catch a JLR OEM thing?
I am not sure if Thule supply their own version - I would image they do.
I meant to comment when you published your Evoque roof bar video, but got distracted...
It looks like the Defender cross bars are similar to the Evoque ones - made by Thule using the T-Track system.
It would be great if @PowerfulukLtd could stock some accessories for these!
Have you seen the ridiculous price of Land Rover's tie down rings, part number: VUB503160 !
Perhaps these are certified to take the weight of the Eiffel Tower - but like you, I only want to pick up some 4"x2" posts etc. so just need some sensibly priced bolts. When you have a minute, perhaps you could look into sourcing/making/selling an affordable range of T-Track bits?
Thanks for all the Land Rover videos - keep going, it's working as I find a lot of people IRL are watching you and getting to know your company!
OK so I have done a drawing of the section of the cross bar - see below link
This should take a Thule T track fixings ( 20mm )
www.dropbox.com/s/h8augun80d3pvvw/defender%202020%20cross%20bar.jpg?dl=0
@@L663 Will you be stocking some T-Track fittings or isn't this something you would be interested in doing? LR want £89 for tie down rings when Amazon have similar for around £10!
Always fun to watch.
I have to confess the instructions and orientation of the sticker seem to make sense to me (obviously the way my brain’s wired).
The arrow on the sticker points to itself (“this is me”). It’s located at the front on the LHS as you sit in the vehicle. Or the right (sorry, I mean correct) side.
Question: I’m looking to buy some T-bolt lashing eyes that I can fix to my roof rack (which, I assume, is the same profile as the bars). Frontrunner make some good ones but the nut seems to be too deep for the LR channel. Have you come across any that LR may have used on previous vehicles (if they’ve stuck with the same dimensions)?
Hi Alan... so you think the "right" means the "correct" side ... i just think it would have been easier to have said that the wide part goes to the front etc ?
Do you have the explorer roof rack on yours ? we have one to fit next week so can check the T bolts
I do. It has a frame, 6 cross bars and a rear treat-plate area. Each of the cross bars is profiled like the roof bars you fitted and has a T-slot channel with the ‘aero’ vortex-defying rubber insert 👍
I have to say that the combination of the roof rack and the ladder (which is amazing by the way) is excellent. Used in anger quite a lot now. The only drawbacks are that the bars are made of the same anodised aluminium that you have on the bars - which scratches really easily - and there’s no way to tie things down laterally (hence the desire for eyelets that can be locked into the T-slot). Ideally the eyelets would be fitted with a rubber gasket to stop them damaging the aluminium surface.
One quick note: when you’re fitting it, make sure you use a long enough socket. It’s clear that the dealer who fitted mine didn’t and they’ve scuffed the paint off the frame in nice circular marks where their drill has rubbed. You’ll see what I mean.
Could these fit on a discovery 3/4?
No the channel section is not the same
What is the height above the roof to the top of A) Cross Bars or B) Expedition Rack system ....need to know if its fits in my garage
4.5 inches. 78 inches from ground with the 33” tires on 19” wheels.
Are you also going to fit the full roof rack?
Yes we nearly got around to it today... we had to fit the side lunch box first !.. the video for that will be up tomorrow !
Still got the trusty Astra then?
She is part of the family !
How do they compare price wise to Thule bars or, are they made by Thule? I know Peugeot genuine roof bars are actually Thule just with a different logo.
I suspect they are Thule but could not find any signs.... the carboard box was not great quality so that made me doubt they were Thule.
I was quoted £183+vat from local LR dealer. Just fitted the expedition rack instead, at £960 😳. Very solid for a lightweight though. BTW, anyone getting the cameras dissappearing issue, hold the main screen power button down for at least 20 seconds until the screen/pc reboots. Sorts the problem out, but hopefully a software update will deal with it soon.
@@Defender3d There are some issues with the electrical systems but most seem to be getting fixed with software updates.. I did not get this issue... i had the opposite... cameras stayed on while driving at speed !
@@L663 Those are Thule "Wing bars" with end fittings to fit application. Thule make most of the roof bar/bike rack/towing kits for JLR. I have the same on my Jaguar XF Sporbrake and use the T Bolts for strapping. I am patiently awaiting the 90" - especially the commercial.
Are there any aftermarket options available yet?
Not that i have seen...
Fit them looking at the front of the car for the front and the rear of the car for the rear.
Fancy a job at Land Rover ? I think you sentence is as clear as their instructions !
Hmm..tell Luke that it would be clearer to refer to Off side and Near side of the car!. Left and right needs clarifying and causes confusion. I hope they are quiet...those on my Suzuki SuperCarry in 1986 would howl at 50+ mph!! Richard😀😀😀😀
Suzuki Supercarry at 50 MPH !
powerfulukltd It was even better at 65/70!! I fitted a later 5 speed gearbox which helped and the “stability” improved by carrying a 1cwt bag of sand over the back axle. I did over 60,000 miles in it and it was maybe the most useful vehicle I ever had but looking back, terrifying had anything gone wrong in the crash department!! 😱😱😀😀😀😀
Offside and nearside won't work - if you are in the USA (for example) it would be the opposite way round and you would fit them incorrectly. It just needs a clear arrow on the lable pointing to the front of the vehicle.