The Lies of Lenses: Behind The Scenes In Sheerness
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- On a breakwater -- technically it's a groyne -- in Sheerness, we talk about lenses, lies, and why you can't always believe what you see on screen.
MATT: / unnamedculprit - TOM: / tomscottgo
I only realised, after editing and uploading this video, that technically we're sitting on a "groyne", not a "breakwater". Please place all "kick in the groyne" jokes in this thread! -- Tom
+Matt and Tom Would love to hear you explain why you hate the Wirral. I'm from there and your view is almost certainly justified.
+Matt and Tom I live in Liverpool so I'm quite familiar with the Wirral (The Wirral is near Liverpool for those who don't know the general location), so I'm curious as to why you hate it.
+Matt and Tom As soon as you said "breakwater" I realised that I'd have to sit through an entire video of you both not making the joke I wanted you to.
Once I was kicked in the groyne, it made me breakwater.
+Matt and Tom My favouritist band ever come from the
Wirral.
in grade school, i got do join a little amateur film club where we learned how to do that Vertigo shot trick. of course, being a small grade school club, we did not have a dolly, so instead we had one of us sat in an office chair that the teacher then pushed at a steady rate. all things considered, the shots actually turned out pretty well.
You will have to go back there to do a follow up. "Things you might not know: The crater that was once Sheerness"
Thanks, Tom, you just explained how RUclips always seems to suggest exactly the right video at exactly the right time.
Your eyes are amazing. I played this back 7 times and still laugh at this sentence.
"Sheerness is mostly worn out" haha! That sounds about right.
When will the world see part 2 of "The Ballad of Mad Cap'n Tom"?
I'm not even mad he dislikes the Wirral, I'm happy he knows it exists
I had a blast watching this!
I grew up in Sheerness. I knew that beach very well. Believe me, it is not lovely!! I would like to spend some time with these two, though, they look like fun.
The Vertigo shot was the one that clicked to me what a focus puller is. You need one guy there to change the focus as the dolly moves, so that the actor stays in focus.
Shame you didnt venture a mile or 2 in the opposite direction your facing, you have a much nicer area in minster, cliffs a bit further on and an Abbey built in the 800's. Agree with you its worn down but most industrial parts of any town are, you just seemed to find the best of the worst part of the island! Also Warden / Warden Bay are nice filming areas and Harty and Elmley would be fantastic parts to film also.
That mermaid also is very tongue in cheek humour, also causing controversy as people didn't see the joke, Eastchurch was where the Wright brothers tested there first planes and the bouncing bomb was also tested in the waters of that area.
Did Tom go a bit Alan Partridge at the end there?
If, in life, you must ever choose between "haircut" and "Ben & Jerry's," the answer is always, always, always Ben & Jerry's.
CFLs collapse the spectrum too. Sucks. It's sensory deprivation.
David Icke sounds mental but he is right sucks
Oooh yeah Hiroshima peace museum
Yeah apparently like 2 hours of our day is just brrrrp
Quantum needle
7:27 Matt's pick up line?
You hate the Wirral!!!!! ???
HOW DO YOU NOT LIKE DOGS?!?!?!?!
I was at a helicopter airshow and I was like "wow that helicopter's right there!" But then I got my phone out and it was very tiny... Fml.
That’s because your phone has a wide angle lens, probably the equivalent of 20mm, humans eyes are the equivalent of about 50mm.
Being nearly blind really shows how much the brain does to seeing. Eyes are crap, Some more crap than others.
And what is wrong with the Wirral? xD
I don't know, I guess some people just want to see the Wirral burn.
Шeerness vs. Щeerness
Not gonna lie, I spent the whole video waiting for the camera to pull back and reveal that you guys were sitting several hundred feet away to film this, just to mess with us all.
And let the expensive rental lens sit a hundred metres away, ready to be grabbed?
ThePixel1983 Yeah. Why?
me too haha
It's a Groyne! You're sitting on a Groyne! Don't diminish years of Geography class humor by calling it a break water!
Yes
What was matt and tom sitting on this afternoon?
A groyne
**background laughter**
They made a comment acknowledging
I know its a year ago but just seen this and my mum says really sorry about the dog - her name is Ebony and she likes to make friends! x
Abi Davis This is one of the hard things with dogs. My brother's dog is a few months old but quite big and likes to jump up at people and ignore the shouts of "Ava no" or "Ava come here"
Took her for a walk and there was one poor fella she kept trying to go to but he wasn't so keen. In the end I just had to walk right beside her and grab her every time she made a break for it 😂
Mine is the same, Matt's just scared of dogs so it's not the best combo haha
Tom Kenning link to that?
@@AFrogInTheStars He said he can't f***ing stand them.
The dog's or your mom's?
I would assume you can rent trailers at Alfred Hitch Co.
Zhatt I buy my cars at Infiniti ltd.
You sure can rent camera dollies there
It would be fairer, with that pronunciation, not to say that Tom had gone French, but had accidentally gone Cornish! (Three examples from football, two of which were brothers - Mike Trebilcock, who scored two goals in the 1966 FA Cup final for Everton, and the Sandercock brothers Ken and Phil, mainstays of the mid 70's Torquay United team)
It seems as if they are sitting on the groynes, but actually they are just squatting with a really long shot.
While Tom is explaining why he hate "the Wirral" [Sorry if I misspelled it], Matt can say why he can't stand dogs
"your eyes are f***ing amazing." gosh um heck thanks 😌
Now I wanna know why Tom hates The Wirral...
+KingCulta I'm going to have to tell that story at some point. Probably in a video near, but not on, the Wirral. -- Tom
+Matt and Tom Come to Chester! I know a lovely Park Bench you could use......
Matt and Tom But Tom, the ice cream. The delicious ice cream.
+Matt and Tom come Liverpool please for this video
+KingCulta If you have ever been to the Wirral, you would understand. I'm not sure why Tom doesn't like it, but everyone I know who has been there, including myself, doesn't like the place.
It's been 4 years and, as far as I know, we still have not gotten the story of why Tom hates the Wirral. I don't think we ever will.
5 years and counting...
@@ahreuwu runnin up on 6...
7 years...
aaaaand 8!
The park bench needs to make a comeback for one episode to explain Tom's hatred of the Wirral.
"you'll have a blast" hahaha, that's so awesome.
😀
You don't need to be nice to Sheerness. After all, that boat may be just the perfect way to get rid of it.
Would you mind explaining how you're verified? Just curious :)
edit: nevermind I figured it out
Tom: at one point, i will have to explain why i hate the Wirral
and then he never did... :3
"I'm sure Sheerness is lovely"
That is your mistake, right there.
Not really - it’s bleak and when the tide is out, it’s VERY muddy!
Slough, Wirral, Sheerness ... Tom, you'll have to start a list of the places you better not visit again. :D
Hebl von Heblowitz also Scunthorpe
Wigan was mentioned in another video
Lmfao. At the moment, it's about 5 a.m. and I've been watching videos for quite a while(long day).
When you added the .gif, showing the zoom/move effect, then removed it again, it leaves people(for a moment) staring at your crotches. I seriously had to pause the video for a moment, because I was laughing so hard(no pun intended) when I realized that. Yes, I might be a bit sleep deprived, but I thought that was hilarious. ^^
And they were on a groyne
Even the Mermaid looks miserable!
Father Ted Reference. Dougle it =D
I will never be sorry for that joke.
Its 6 years later and I still want to know why Tom hates the Wirral
theres another thing that interests me.... Sheerness is on the southbank.... on the NORTHbank though... is a town called SHOEBURYNESS..... how the heck did that name come about?! who buried what shoe and why was it important or significant enough of an event to name a town after?!?!
+IH8YH 'Bury' in old English means 'fortified place' 'ness' means a headland so shoeburyness means the fortified place at the shoe headland, the shoe may be a corruption of shore making it the fortifed place on the shore of the headland. it could also have been refering to the shape of the headland etc.
that makes sense!!! thx! :)
Ascdren get out nerd
I live near Shoeburyness. It's quite a nice place, but you cant really see the masts from Shoebury.
So the Wirral is Tom's personal Slough; gotcha.
Or possibly Scunthorpe.
is it not called a groyne? A breakwater is a larger barrier in the enterance to a harbor to stop waves.
It IS a groyne, but they're also often (incorrectly) referred to as breakwaters.
"I can see de fence"
Thank you Matt for always making the jokes I make in my mind
This should've been called "The Lies of Eyes". It seems like your brain is fudging the information it gets from your eyes, while the camera shows you what's actually there. Plus, it rhymes.
I know this is a old video but,
Tom as a Scouser I share your passion for the Wirral. Come to Liverpool and you can stand under the liverbuilding while Matt uses his snooping lens to get the shot of the Wirral. Also they have benches there so you have all the equipment you need!
You'll also find a similar effect with mics. Omni mics tend exaggerate the distance while cardioid and especially hyper cardioid mics tend to flatten.
Hey Tom! Guess What? The Wirral!!!
Automatic like for Father Ted reference. :)
+steevf agreed! Particularly *that* reference too. It is a family favourite.
Hayley Jeffs it is a perfect joke. The way it's set up by the writers, the way it's delivered, the way the punchline is so unexpected. A perfect joke.
A little clarification: The lens doesn't compress distance, distance compresses distance. By moving the camera further, a longer lens is required to get similar framing.
Tom isn't red.
+Major Biggles Under the hoodie maybe?
+Major Biggles It's too cold for a red shirt. He's in Britain in winter.
+Major Biggles When it's cold he always wears a grey hoodie on top of a red t-shirt.
@@KedraIrke Definitely. He talks about it in a different video. There is only so much discomfort he well accept to make us happy :-)
I didn't think it was possible to dislike dogs... but I'll be damned if Matt didn't just prove me wrong. Did a dog kill his family or something?
look up tv show mr. pickles
+404Anymouse i just did
+Nick Fox I react the same way, having noisy aggressive dogs as neighbours and seeing them dragging away a younger brother.
+Nick Fox Some folks like me prefer cats to dogs.
+Nick Fox I had too much footballs (soccer) ruined by dogs in my childhood to really like dogs.
Tom still didn't explain why he hates Wirrel so much. And I'm still waiting...
0:55 A Father Ted reference... ...RIP Frank Kelly 1938-2016
Fr Ted is special. A pity his death happened in the midst of election coverage.
I was lurking in some bushes with a long lens camera - maybe that's why she didn't go out with me...
Lovely videos from you! :-)
Just one point: telephoto lens compression is a myth, it does not happen. You can crop a wider angle image and it is the same as an identically framed telephoto shot,
Top Gear hair
Still haven't told us why you hate the Wirral. I have lived there for all of my life and I still do. I'm not offended. I'm just really curious as to which "feature" ticked you off to badly😂
Matt doesn't like dogs? I knew there was a reason I liked him!
+BlobVanDam I knew there was a reason I HATED him! (kidding! But c'mon, nice dogs rock)
It was in another video where a dog popped up and Matt's face afterwards...
Cooro Fox and another where his response to a dog approaching him was to leap up off the bench
And I knew there was a reason I didn't like him.
He seem afraid of dogs, which has nothing to do with liking them. I was attacked by a big dog on a public street when I was a kid, it could have literally bit my face off, I had teeth marks on my forehead and chin. I don't remember what breed it was but it's a Saint-Bernard that saved me by jumping on the other dog before it could close it jaws on my face.
That was a long time ago and my family had owned several dogs before I left home, now I love dogs even if some can make me nervous to the point of crossing the street or staying in my home if they're around. I would have been fine with the one in the video though.
You’d be incredibly surprised how much water can suppress an explosion like that. Not sure how deep it is there, but it doesn’t take much water to suppress an incredible amount of energy.
If you actually run the math…. and even if using the worst case numbers… the entire blast wave would be contained, sure it might create a wave but that is doubtful you’ll probably just see some bubbles.
The shots from below the surface looked like it was pretty deep, but it must not be that deep if it ran up on a sandbar, however that’s also move constantly.
Would be really interested to see someone who specializes in that type of thing run the numbers….you might get wet… But I highly doubt that it would be much worse than that. All according to the waters depth
Dogs always seem to know to go directly to the people that don't like dogs.
Misnaming that as a breakwater is a real kick in the groyne.
Yay long lenses! I wouldn't have thought about it but that's definitely a very telephoto shot, cool idea and great job making it work.
Is that a RODE NTG-2 in your hand? How did you get it to sound as powerful as it is in the videos? Mine sounds totally flat...
Yep it is. Normally all I do is add a load of dynamic compression, and eq out sub 100Hz in post. --Matt
Random question 4 months later, after having seen that video that you guys filmed using a drone - if you did decide to film on a boat, would a drone camera make it easier to get a stable shot? Or would you not risk flying such a valuable piece of kit over water?
Well, they do normally float, and are moderately waterproof... you'd need one of those which are semi autonomous though, which can hold a steady altitude and position by themselves. The bigger problem would be that the camera would hold steady, but they'd be bobbing up and down whilst trying to talk to it. Better to have a steadicam on deck instead, the pitching of the horizon would be less distracting.
So Tom, why *do* you hate the Wirral,
sincerely someone else who hates the Wirral
9:40 - Out of one frame and into another caused a mouthful tea to explode from my face in laughter. Please film this! It's actually something I hadn't ever thought about being a problem! It would make a good video on the main channel!
tom i'm sorry but if the worst case scenario did happen from a bit of research the explosion would be worth about 1.5 kilotons of TNT in terms of energy which would be massive but would be 1.4 kilotons short of having the record as the largest non nuclear man made explosion the tittle would still be held by a maritime disaster in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada in 1917 when a french cargo ship carrying high explosives collided with another ship setting the french ship afire then later it's cargo of high explosives detonated wiping out 2.5 kilometers of Halifax and a native american settlement in the process of both the explosion and the subsequent tsunami. that explosion was roughly 2.9 kilotons worth of TNT in terms of energy and would also be more devastating because it happened above water in the middle of a city
Bit hard to read, but good info :)
The Halifax Explosion is only the largest ACCIDENTAL man made explosion in history, intentional conventional explosions have been bigger. see: Minor Scale
Don't worry Tom, Sheerness isn't particularly nice even during the summer...
Did you ever tell us why you dislike The Wirral, Tom?
I feel with Matt, I don't like dogs either. :/
It's ok on my terms but I hate when dogs just come over, especially big dogs.
as someone who lives near the wirral, thats understandable.
I thought it was called perspective compression.
That semi-whistle happens to me all the damn time lol.
Lurking in the bushes with a long lens camera 🙂
My reaction to dogs is similar.
i live there. also sheerness is pretty awful, so that's fair.
Glad I'm not the only person who's uncomfortable around dogs.
That is a groyne! My geography revision taught me this :P
They stop LSD
+That Guy To clarify to anyone reading this, that's Longshore Drift, not N,N-Diethyllysergamide.
Thomas Hori Well it would also stop any drugs being pushed up the beach by waves
It'd stop LSD from carrying LSD (drug) along the beach, so no LSD (drug) in the kids area. :p
I did geography GCSE :|
TheSizzlingIcetray I'm doing it :P
Gonna do it for AS too, maybe A level depending on teacher
You probably don't want to do it for AS.. unless you LIVE for coursework and complex terms:D
What's to hate about the Wirral? Except Tranmere... and Birkenhead... and Rock Ferry... and Moreton... and West Kirby... Actually. Never-mind.
Well New Brighton is nice
Hmm, I must have got lucky with my flying visit to the place... I fetched up only in Parkgate and Hoylake.
Well, that and Seacombe, but I was expecting it to be industrial dockland anyway so it wasn't exactly a disappointment. Just wanted the view across to Liverpool, which was slightly spoiled by the works around the drawbridge but still got some decent shots.
"Everything in that video is true... from a certain point of view."
The only places more miserable than Sheerness is Slough and Jaywick.
You've clearly never been to Bilston. Don't bother.
Stop the Wirral, you want to get off?
You know, it wasn't until AFTER I typed that pun that I realized the other implication of that statement. O.O
Tom made a Father Ted reference, every Irish person ever salutes you sir.
As I was watching the other vid I expected the long still shot to be a set up to a cheesy special fx explosion out in the water behind you, not that you have a habit of cheesy fx or anything. ;)
they were trying to enlarge tom's member for video production.
Why are you always carrying a furry tail on a stick?
Are you guys furries or something?
6:25 Well, now that there has unfortunately been an explosion like that in Beirut in 2020, we know that it looked pretty much like that. People peaking their heads to see what's the deal with the big flash, then being blown away by the blast
"The statue of liberty is three *miles* away..."
"...and you're, what? One hundred *meters* away?..."
Does everyone in the UK code switch their units like this?
Yes. Constantly. We're a weird bunch. It generally depends on what you are measuring and how big the weight / distance is. Unless it's a newborn, that's in pounds for some reason. But yes, we use a random mixture of measurements and unless someone points it out, don't really notice it.
@@WindInMyWings Well, that's delightful. Thanks for the insight 😄
@@floobdedoop2892 There is also no real logic to it either, plus we have a few odd imperial measurements other imperial using countries don't, for some unknown reason. Like a stone, which is 14 pounds. And our pints are different to US pints. And a mile on land isn't the same as a nautical mile. If it makes perfect sense, it isn't British, that is the rule. It's the rule that left us with the place of Loughborough being pronounced "Luff-bruh"
Well, my eyes only see in shades of blue. But I do consider them pretty amazing ;)
What are you guy's take's on 360 video, would you use it for something like Citation Needed?
Could have green screened it
Very late question, but did they ever explain why Tom doesn't like the Wirral? If so, what video?
What's wrong with the Wirral Tom? I've been there and sure it's not Liverpool that's just across the mersey, but it's still nice
Ain't no long shore drift happening on this beach
I have a very similar lens, canon 24-300 :D
Yes, evaporated, distintergrated, blasted into the side of Sittingbourne Town Hall.......
i miss SHENLEY already..... haha
"It's not fine, you don't like dogs." "No I can't fucking stand them"
sure, have a like
We have the same Monopod... I don't know why that given me as much joy as it did..