@@yoso378 That is because, after analyzing the situation, it can be concluded that Nanashi's "goddesses" are not his old friends, they are rather toys in the shape of his previous companions. They are creations made from the memory of Nanashi and therefore they are submissive and faithfully follow their "God" (something like the angels in SMT IV)
And that is the whole reason why I thought Anarchy ending was the worst of the 2 neutral endings, because while Bonds ending may be the same as all neutral endings where it just stalls for time, Anarchy has you potentially restarting the conflict yourself, because by the end, you may have possibly become YHVH yourself.
Basically. Nanashi is becoming yhwh. The souls of those that are revived aren't actually themselves. They're just meat puppets brought to life through dagda, meant to serve you as servant and nothing else. None of them are human or even truly alive. And dagda sees nothing wrong with any of it because he saw all of them as just a means to achieve a goal in creating a new universe, one where his godslayer sits atop of above everyone else and where he can simply exist in nature itself.
I noticed that Toki is the only one that doesn't speak in a monotone voice. I guess she didn't need brainwashing to become Nanashi's goddess. Kinda fucked up.
I think it's a sign. Remember, she did say she wanted to be strong with us. I think she merely had us killing her because she first wanted to prove herself in the fight. Show she was the best figher, and therefore, the one he should choose as a partner. Gods have to be strong after all. Plus, it's already bad enough you betray everybody. Let's try to make sure the person we choose DOES want to remain by our side.
@@chr1s415 ''Navarre's physical form is restored, manifesting from your memories'' Nanashi only knows the ghost navarre so those are the memories the ressurected navarre is based off.
Fuck. Imagine if YHVH uses Infinite Power and Gaston suddenly jumps in and misses, causing you to be unable to Dekunda and Magaon so YHVH just obliterates you on the next turn.
ThoMario86 nooooo onnnnne screws up like Gaston, no one wastes press turns like Gaston. No one’s made me want to punch someone in the face severely hard like Gaston.
Toki’s a better choice imo. Helps with horde battles so well! And she helps with tough enemies defense by lowering it. But hey, we have our own opinions
That would've an intresting opportunity to reuse his portrait assets from the previous game. With everyone acting unsettlingly off It would be quite disturbing to have his previous body and his mindset before his death.
Shin Megami Tensei IV and Apocalypse are those games where i will never play in Japanese voices but voice acting in these games are sooo damn good but I will say like Demiurge Japanese voice more. He sounds menacing compare to his Cold voice in English
Now personally I always thought it was fucking bizarre on how easily Flynn goes along with everything, if you picked Isabaeu i think it would've been hilarious if you then had to fight the equivalent of the demi-fiend boss in Flynn
Finally made it to that point in the game, and I chose Isabeau. The fact she was cool in SMT IV, reads manga, and is useful in Apocalypse was what did it for me in terms of choosing a goddess. And a lot of the stuff she said here reminds me of Hiroko's quotes in SMT II Neutral ending. That was an awesome tribute to SMT II.
No the goddess is Izanami and only the first two games Megami Tensei I & II have reincarnation of Izanami as a central character, and the closes game to uphold the meaning of the name since those two is Persona 4.
Ugh. That DLC actually has potential to be really interesting from Nanashi's perspective. Especially on Massacre. Maybe Nanashi is swamped with guilt over killing his friends and his deal with Mephisto is him attempting to cope. But, Nanashi, being a silent protagonist, gets no development and so the DLC ends up just being a beach episode with Mephisto thrown in at the end.
@@demi-femme4821 Yeah Apocalypse's DLCs were really a letdown. They could've done the Diamond Realm DLC a lot better, though the boss fight with Stephen was fun it just feels like fighting YHWH again
I remember learning at some point that dagda is an Irish God. And to be 100% there's no way this was done on purpose but he has an Irish accent when he speaks sometimes. Never noticed it until now
@@moodchange2705 I mean, it's more noticable when you compare Arsene to Dagda. The personas of the protagonists are voiced by the same people as their users, they just sound more mature.
Everyone here is around your age so the whole repopulate the earth aspect isn’t weird except for Navarre he is 10 years older then you Isabeau and Gaston are 18 Asahi and Hallelujah are 15 Toki is 14 As you are 15 those ages are all good Mf Navarre is a whole 25!
The line after the final boss? nah I didn't go that far with each character. Going through the final dungeon 7 times just for a 1 liner seemed to much.
@@BuffMaister After looking at other videos and searching through the English voice dump, I found everyone's quotes except for Toki's. I think I saw her quote somewhere, and that she said she'd raise children for him, but I'm not certain. Asahi: “No matter what they send at us, no matter how many of our followers they fight off… I will create many more in their place.” Isabeau: “No matter what force comes after you, no matter how many die… I shall create more people to serve you.” Hallelujah: “No matter what god or devil comes, no matter how many die… I will make more people for you.” Navarre: “No matter what kind of god comes, no matter who they kill… I shall make sure that there are always people to worship you.” Nozomi: “No matter what may come our way, or how ever many of our followers they kill… I will create more to shield us.” Gaston: “No matter what battle may come to us, no matter what ravages it bring… I will raise an army for you.” I think it's interesting how everyone except for Asahi bluntly say that the new humans will die. Asahi, Hallelujah, and possibly Toki want to create humans for their own sake, while Isabeau, Gaston, Nozomi, and Navarre specifically create humans as servants.
@@DigidesteinedSayian The other day I downloaded the voice rips! Here's what they say, in order of files: Asahi: “No matter what they send at us, no matter how many of our followers they fight off… I will create many more in their place.” Nozomi: “No matter what may come our way, or how ever many of our followers they kill… I will create more to shield us.” Toki: “No matter what happens, no matter how many people die from it... I will raise more people with you” Isabeau: “No matter what force comes after you, no matter how many die… I shall create more people to serve you.” Hallelujah: “No matter what god or devil comes, no matter how many people die… I will make more people for you.” Gaston: “No matter what battle may come to us, no matter what ravages it brings… I will raise an army for you.” Navarre: “No matter what kind of god comes, no matter who they kill… I shall make sure that there are always people to worship you.”
@@ceciifm Thank you! It bothered me that I couldn't find Toki's. So she *does* make people for their own sake, too. The rips I downloaded didn't label the files (they were just long numbers), so I had to sort through them in order of file size. I deleted them as I went, so that's probably how I missed hers.
I HATED making this choice. I had JUST come to terms with murdering my party, JUST started being okay with moving on alone, and then Dagda pulls THIS bullcrap.
after watching this.. i thought getting netral ending isnt so bad for me lol.. its like the goddess we chose isn't regain their fully command on their conciousness, it makes me sad... 🤣👍
Issachar's fish hook is a memento of their time as Casualries before IV. As Flynn showed, it means that the Flynn of old is no more, dead, and this new one is just a replacement as is your Goddess (remember the "manifested from YOUR memories"), like Danu did to Dagda in the Friendship route. In either ending, you lose friends. That *if* you consider Dagda a friend.
@@yujiandou4658the fact that isabeau willingly kill her self for the sake of his hands will not be dirty by her blood in SMT 4, make this scene is really sad and somehow "more exciting" God, i'm bad person
"choosing all gods"
Demi fiend: my dissapointment is immeasurable
Freedom ending be like
Nanashi: I choose Isabeau
Flynn: I am your Godsla...hold the fuck up.
Nanashi: "Alright, but what if: polyamory."
Flynn: "I'm listening."
Flynn: hold up
@@demi-femme4821 she has 2 holes
I love how in the Mephisto DLC, Navarre gets his physical form back but still has the ghost voice filter 🤣
You'd think 'reviving' Navarre would bring him back as a human... but then again he forms from *your* memories. Nanashi never met human Navarre.
Strangely enough, he does in a DLC, the one set in a beach and where you have to face Mephisto
Technically, choosing Isabeau means you just commited NTR on a divine level.
It's even worse when Flynn becomes the Godslayer
What's NTR?
...I don't have the heart to tell him, who wants to do it?
@@theholy1191 Please tell me. I tried searching it up, but I didn't get any results.
@@windmage0168 Netorare, it's a genre where characters cheat on others
This part of the game is the one that disturbs me the most, it makes me think that Nanashi is slowly becoming YHYW
Everyone is just so slightly off in their mannerisms and voice acting when you pick them. It's really creepy.
@@yoso378
That is because, after analyzing the situation, it can be concluded that Nanashi's "goddesses" are not his old friends, they are rather toys in the shape of his previous companions.
They are creations made from the memory of Nanashi and therefore they are submissive and faithfully follow their "God"
(something like the angels in SMT IV)
And that is the whole reason why I thought Anarchy ending was the worst of the 2 neutral endings, because while Bonds ending may be the same as all neutral endings where it just stalls for time, Anarchy has you potentially restarting the conflict yourself, because by the end, you may have possibly become YHVH yourself.
Basically.
Nanashi is becoming yhwh. The souls of those that are revived aren't actually themselves. They're just meat puppets brought to life through dagda, meant to serve you as servant and nothing else. None of them are human or even truly alive. And dagda sees nothing wrong with any of it because he saw all of them as just a means to achieve a goal in creating a new universe, one where his godslayer sits atop of above everyone else and where he can simply exist in nature itself.
Flynn not remembering Issachar :(
I noticed that Toki is the only one that doesn't speak in a monotone voice. I guess she didn't need brainwashing to become Nanashi's goddess. Kinda fucked up.
I think it's a sign. Remember, she did say she wanted to be strong with us. I think she merely had us killing her because she first wanted to prove herself in the fight. Show she was the best figher, and therefore, the one he should choose as a partner. Gods have to be strong after all.
Plus, it's already bad enough you betray everybody. Let's try to make sure the person we choose DOES want to remain by our side.
Oh fuck... I never thought of it like that that's fucked up.
"Navarre's physical form"
I felt honestly robbed there
Honestly same! Like he's still a ghost?!
@@chr1s415 ''Navarre's physical form is restored, manifesting from your memories''
Nanashi only knows the ghost navarre so those are the memories the ressurected navarre is based off.
@@appelofdoom8211 he does see his physical form in the trip to Hawaii dlc
@@notanidiot567 Technically that isn't canon though
Imagine doing your low level, no fusion, anarchy route with gaston as your goddess
Suggest that to Jim reaper and one day he might be insane enough to do it
Fuck.
Imagine if YHVH uses Infinite Power and Gaston suddenly jumps in and misses, causing you to be unable to Dekunda and Magaon so YHVH just obliterates you on the next turn.
@@demi-femme4821 ... it did happen to me...
Thrice.
ThoMario86 nooooo onnnnne screws up like Gaston, no one wastes press turns like Gaston. No one’s made me want to punch someone in the face severely hard like Gaston.
Chose a Goddess
Dagda: Gender is inconsequential
@@musicwalls why? If you choose a man, not a trans ?.
It's your universe so a goddess is whoever the hell you want it to be lol
Wow male-preg smt in a nutshell
Dagda says gay rights.
Dagda: Good morning, LGBTQ+ community
Five reasons why you should choose Navarre as your goddess:
-He buffs
-He's thicc
-He's magnificent
-He's not Asahi
-All the reasons above.
He also has that rad-ass pompadour. You can't forget that.
Flynn and navarre in the team it's pretty cool
Toki’s a better choice imo. Helps with horde battles so well! And she helps with tough enemies defense by lowering it. But hey, we have our own opinions
So true
I half expected Dagda to comment on Nanashi's terrible choices if he picks Nevarre.
Bruh. Navarre is acually best partner in the game
I think it would be cool and really off-putting if Navarre was back in his actual physical body in this route and acting aloof
That would've an intresting opportunity to reuse his portrait assets from the previous game. With everyone acting unsettlingly off It would be quite disturbing to have his previous body and his mindset before his death.
Yo, the way Erica Lindbeck made Asahi's voice sound so robotic and stilted as the Goddess is some great acting.
The voice actors for the game are pretty cool in general.
Shin Megami Tensei IV and Apocalypse are those games where i will never play in Japanese voices but voice acting in these games are sooo damn good but I will say like Demiurge Japanese voice more. He sounds menacing compare to his Cold voice in English
@@NIHIL_EGOf you compare them to japanese dub most of them are poop💩
@@NIHIL_EGO A good handful of them had roles in Persona 5 as well! ^_^
If nozomi says "homeslice" one more time im breaking my cartridge
Honestly, i don’t see how annoying it is. She’s better than Asahi. I’d much prefer to hear homeslice than nameless(Nanashi’s translated name).
Now personally I always thought it was fucking bizarre on how easily Flynn goes along with everything, if you picked Isabaeu i think it would've been hilarious if you then had to fight the equivalent of the demi-fiend boss in Flynn
I assume it's nothing more than a puppet with his combat skills. Though a Flynn superboss would have been great. Who knows maybe one day.
@@MrTwo-yv2upfrom what I read, Nanashi and Dagda just did the same as Krishna and brain controlled him, ntr ending lmao
Oh man, that fishing hook part stings.
That was the most repulsive parte for me, showing how it wasn't Flynn anymore, just a puppet, this is why i do the bonds ending over the anarchy one
@@DharcVasquez dude it's flynn isn't he like a means to an end for like nearly the entire game why do you care
@@kirbyguy9376 If you played the original SMT IV, you might be attached to Flynn more, since he was the protagonist of that game.
@@ltb1345 no not really
@@kirbyguy9376 sounds like what an elitist would say. PERSONA PERSONA PERSONA
Finally made it to that point in the game, and I chose Isabeau. The fact she was cool in SMT IV, reads manga, and is useful in Apocalypse was what did it for me in terms of choosing a goddess.
And a lot of the stuff she said here reminds me of Hiroko's quotes in SMT II Neutral ending. That was an awesome tribute to SMT II.
Best girl.
Tfw Dagda can't be your goddess 😭
dagda is too busy ending his own existence to be someone's goddess.
Dagda: choose someone you can depend on...
Nanashi: you :)
Dagda: 🥺 _kid..._
@@dewo277e9
Returning to nature. Though I suppose you could say he is ending his existence, at least in the physical aspect.
Him or Flynn but both are busy either becoming one with nature or turning into a yandere 😔✊
@@zomboids2100 A God’s equivalent to returning to monke.
Toki sounds the more natural choice to be goddess compared with the others.
Toki wants to be with him the most. It makes sense that even after death, some part of her desire lives on in her reincarnated form.
Toki tells the mc she still loves him even after he kills her. She’s probably even more loyal than Asahi.
Too bad she’s a creep.
@@ltb1345 that's the best part...
That's the best part
Is this the only game that takes the name of the series quite literally? Shin Megami Tensei -> The True Resurrection of the Goddess?
No the goddess is Izanami and only the first two games Megami Tensei I & II have reincarnation of Izanami as a central character, and the closes game to uphold the meaning of the name since those two is Persona 4.
In Strange Journey, you could say Mem Aleph considers herself the “true goddess”.
In SMTVI, the goddess in question is the Goddess of Tokyo. In SMTIII, the world itself is the goddess.
Imagine not choosing Asahi after how many times the game shoved her down our throat.
She doesn’t have her awakened power so 🤷🏽♂️
@@Roberto-mm4gr regret choosing her....she become useless if you choose her as goddess
Chose Hallelujah with no regrets the first four times. After that I decided to experiment with more goddesses before going back.
Imagine not choosing Navarre who gives you free buffs and debuffs
@@yieschu Navarre should be picked for the only thing that matters. Giant Ghost Butt
Are you gonna post the parts of the beach dlc where it's revealed that Gaston and Navarre are Persona fans?
Ugh. That DLC actually has potential to be really interesting from Nanashi's perspective.
Especially on Massacre. Maybe Nanashi is swamped with guilt over killing his friends and his deal with Mephisto is him attempting to cope.
But, Nanashi, being a silent protagonist, gets no development and so the DLC ends up just being a beach episode with Mephisto thrown in at the end.
@@demi-femme4821 Yeah Apocalypse's DLCs were really a letdown. They could've done the Diamond Realm DLC a lot better, though the boss fight with Stephen was fun it just feels like fighting YHWH again
Wait, what do they say that reveals they're Persona fans?
7:52’s all I care about
As anyone should
Doesn't this count as mindbreaking? Nanashi's friends are basically his sex slaves I think
thanksihateit
Pfft hahahahaha! I…i shouldn’t be laughing at this! But goodness…why would you say that?
finally, somebody upload something like this. thx buffie
6:21 Based Dagda
I tried to find a video like this a few months ago but there was none. Ty for this
It's so fucked up when you think about it. You have a perverse version of your friend who was against dagdas creation.
This route just feels out of line with the whole story preceding it.
Everyone has such big brain reasons for picking their goddess. I just chose Hallelujah because he's my favorite character lol
The body is recreated, but the soul is long lost. Hollow parodies of who these people once were. Existing only to serve your will
H O Y
hoy
hoy
Hoy, You are very Funny Walter
@@nightcoal3558 Thank you Night coal.
Let chaos guide your way to freedom!
@@funnymanwalterownerofthech1887 Chaos Chin I'm dead💀
Freaky how the dialogue of the Goddesses are similar to Hiroko's dialogue in one of SMT 2's endings.
"Gender is inconsequential" - Dagada 2038
Truth has been spoken!
Dagda stans enby rights. He is truly based.
Bi Dagda.
I remember learning at some point that dagda is an Irish God. And to be 100% there's no way this was done on purpose but he has an Irish accent when he speaks sometimes. Never noticed it until now
Of course the Irish accent was intentional.
Look at the tattoos on Nanashi's arm. They know he's Irish.
It was on purpose. The voice actor is not Irish, and was doing an Irish accent for the role.
It's a fake accent, xander mobus voiced dagda and he was joker in p5 and the announcer in smash 4/ultimate
Love how clam Asahi is
> There's no point to having the Fishing Hook.
You throw it away...
LOL
Flynn voice sure sound like an evil person.
I mean, his voice actor eventually went on to play Shido in Persona 5, and that's effectively his voice in this scenario, so...
@@Youhadabadday2021 dagda's VA is Joker's which blew my mind because they sound so different
@@moodchange2705 I mean, it's more noticable when you compare Arsene to Dagda. The personas of the protagonists are voiced by the same people as their users, they just sound more mature.
Dagda: Chose a Goddess
Picks Dagda
Dagda: Wat?
MC: Gender is inconsequenti
Everyone here is around your age so the whole repopulate the earth aspect isn’t weird except for Navarre he is 10 years older then you
Isabeau and Gaston are 18
Asahi and Hallelujah are 15
Toki is 14
As you are 15 those ages are all good
Mf Navarre is a whole 25!
navarre went from worst to best boi
2:39 And thus, Flynn turned to the dark side of the Force :v
Finally, I can see the Navarre Voicelines
Imagine choosing Dagda as his goddess
Navarre is best goddess
Thank you for uploading this. Is there one like this for the Goddess' last lines of the game, where they promise Nanashi to make more people?
The line after the final boss? nah I didn't go that far with each character. Going through the final dungeon 7 times just for a 1 liner seemed to much.
@@BuffMaister Okay, thank you for telling me. I feel that.
@@BuffMaister After looking at other videos and searching through the English voice dump, I found everyone's quotes except for Toki's. I think I saw her quote somewhere, and that she said she'd raise children for him, but I'm not certain.
Asahi: “No matter what they send at us, no matter how many of our followers they fight off… I will create many more in their place.”
Isabeau: “No matter what force comes after you, no matter how many die… I shall create more people to serve you.”
Hallelujah: “No matter what god or devil comes, no matter how many die… I will make more people for you.”
Navarre: “No matter what kind of god comes, no matter who they kill… I shall make sure that there are always people to worship you.”
Nozomi: “No matter what may come our way, or how ever many of our followers they kill… I will create more to shield us.”
Gaston: “No matter what battle may come to us, no matter what ravages it bring… I will raise an army for you.”
I think it's interesting how everyone except for Asahi bluntly say that the new humans will die. Asahi, Hallelujah, and possibly Toki want to create humans for their own sake, while Isabeau, Gaston, Nozomi, and Navarre specifically create humans as servants.
@@DigidesteinedSayian The other day I downloaded the voice rips! Here's what they say, in order of files:
Asahi: “No matter what they send at us, no matter how many of our followers they fight off… I will create many more in their place.”
Nozomi: “No matter what may come our way, or how ever many of our followers they kill… I will create more to shield us.”
Toki: “No matter what happens, no matter how many people die from it... I will raise more people with you”
Isabeau: “No matter what force comes after you, no matter how many die… I shall create more people to serve you.”
Hallelujah: “No matter what god or devil comes, no matter how many people die… I will make more people for you.”
Gaston: “No matter what battle may come to us, no matter what ravages it brings… I will raise an army for you.”
Navarre: “No matter what kind of god comes, no matter who they kill… I shall make sure that there are always people to worship you.”
@@ceciifm Thank you! It bothered me that I couldn't find Toki's. So she *does* make people for their own sake, too.
The rips I downloaded didn't label the files (they were just long numbers), so I had to sort through them in order of file size. I deleted them as I went, so that's probably how I missed hers.
Wow this game *really* does a good job validating every ending doesn't it? Just the fuckin... best job at that.
I balled at Navarr xD
Choose Isabeau because she’s best girl.
I…was unaware…you could have a male be the goddess…
Dagda says: "Gay...rights, kid."
why cant flynn be my goddess tho
He's too busy being a yandere over you 😔✊
😔
@@greengardens6959 hot
He's your godlsayer and a goddess/god can't kill other goddesses/gods from what I remember
I HATED making this choice. I had JUST come to terms with murdering my party, JUST started being okay with moving on alone, and then Dagda pulls THIS bullcrap.
"Thank you, Nuh-Nuh-shi" lol
For some reason i hear Dagda some pissed when he says "Gender is inconsequential"
This version always sounds perpetually pissed off
@@sebastianramirez9090
Dagda's always pissed. He wants to return to nature, man.
ah asahi first. as should be
The best for last, as they say
I choose everyone except Asahi
Hell I even choose Dagda if I can
after watching this.. i thought getting netral ending isnt so bad for me lol.. its like the goddess we chose isn't regain their fully command on their conciousness, it makes me sad... 🤣👍
Well, you also have the fact that you slaughter all of your party members in cold blood, which is even worse than reviving them as puppets
Flynn didn't recognized the fishing hook? Walter's fishing hook?
I just played the normal SMT IV. Can someone explain it to me?
Play the game dood
Its very good :D
Issachar’s fishing hook
What's implied to be Issachar's ghost gives you his fishing hook and asks you to give it to flynn as a memento
Ah, thanks. I thought it was Walter's.
Issachar's fish hook is a memento of their time as Casualries before IV. As Flynn showed, it means that the Flynn of old is no more, dead, and this new one is just a replacement as is your Goddess (remember the "manifested from YOUR memories"), like Danu did to Dagda in the Friendship route.
In either ending, you lose friends. That *if* you consider Dagda a friend.
Navarre is the person I choose.
Does anyone find it weird that Navarre is the one who acts closest to his original personality?
pick your waifu....... persona???
*chooses toki*
Dagda say gay rights plz
>become god
>cant choose everyone as my goddness
Fucking weakling, throw away the god title
2:11
loved how asahi dies, she was so annoying so this alone is the canon ending for me, go for the goth loli and let asahi stay dead
…i cannot say i disagree. Asahi is quite annoying at times…
*smirks* i actually thanked Shesha for eating her ass twice.
Dagda just saying gender is inconsequential, lol
I like NTR
In front of Flynn too, the balls on this lad.
@@yujiandou4658the fact that isabeau willingly kill her self for the sake of his hands will not be dirty by her blood in SMT 4, make this scene is really sad and somehow "more exciting"
God, i'm bad person
@@meandmine564 Bet Nanashi has him watch over the creation process and record it.
Its not really her though
@@EpicMinecraftFail but its still hit your heart like a truck
Hallelujah is best boi, and best choice of course
“Hey, Buddy! Found any cool Bugsnax?”