Brilliant guide! This game is AMAZING but I really think it will go under appreciated because of the steep learning curve and people's perception where they will not put in much practice and declare it "clunky" or whatever. You know the combat system is good when solid boxing fundamentals translate directly into the strategy of the game!
The ones that give me the most trouble are: The girl with the shield, she wears me down with weak blows and I struggle to hit her, sometimes I can hit her legs while doing a crouch attack, and that kind of works, or I get lucky and hit and overhead with the sledgehammer, which is my weapon of choice because of the more armored enemies later on. The swordsman, he is quick AF and combo womboes me, every fight against that guy is a fucking hell of tension and clashing for me, unless I get lucky, or play good, his parrys are very good also. And the one I haven't beaten yet, the full armored woman, she basically has my weapon but it's suuuuuuper long and she attacks really fast, it must have more balance that the sledgehammer, she fucks me up from a distance and I can't even touch her. With practice and picking every piece of useful armor from my enemies at least I can get to that fight more or less consistently, but still, sometimes I just get killed before. It's really hard man, reaaaally hard. I swear, my fingers hurt from so many tries and tension lmao
hey man you'll get it in time, just know you can never be perfect and there's always something else to learn. If I use 1h sword alone I often lose to her as well
you can adjust your swings with your step in timing. staring a right hand attack with swords then dashing in and crouching at the first half second tends to lower the swing to knee level depending on the swords head weight and all that jazz and your character height. Giants struggle to hit legs but deliver powerful overheads where as smaller characters move slower but have better access to the **FEET**
Great video! Learning this information made this beast of a game a tad bit easier to get back into. If you release any more videos I'll be here! You've got yourself another subscriber!
This game gives you a great feeling when you start to figure it out. Footwork is key. Move your feet constantly. Every time you move, it shifts your character's center of mass. Attacking from a good center of mass will be faster, more powerful and more accurate. When you swing a weapon, it also shifts your center of mass wildly, so you have to counter that with a hard lean in the other direction. Maintain center of mass during the swing and it will be stronger and faster. The biggest mistake I've been making is paying too much attention to what my character is doing as I figure all this out and not watching the enemy almost exclusively. Anyway, I want the creators of this game to get to work on the next Ultima Online-like MMORPG. This combat system is screaming for multiplayer.
There are helmets. Once you are past "Inept" level you can use them. It is wise to have protection on your head because the damage reduction from armor only applies to the area it covers. As in you get hit in the head without protection, you could die instantly.
***** I know, thats what i said. In exanima you MUST wear a helmet. However, things like leather caps did not exist, although arming caps existed and exanima portrays them well. Leather armour did not exist as a whole in history.
Matthew Almaraz I meat that leather armour was very rare. Now, im going to give you examples of surviving leather armour. Only a hardened leather upper arm protection exists. Thats it. Now, im going to give you examples of what people think is leather armour but it is a theory. There is a certain depiction of a knight of maybe 11-12th century, who wears strange cuisses and greaves. Those 2 pieces have decorations that are beloeved to be carved and as you know you couldnt carve metal at that time. Now, there is a manuscript in french how to boil leather, so we know leather was used in certain armour components, but not as armour. All of this information leads to the conclusion that leather was sometimes used for armour. Maybe only nobles afforded it as protection above mail. This is because leather was crazy expensive, rigid almost as metals, heavy material for armour. It was very strong though not as games depict. The existing use of leather for protection is used mostly for shields. We have sources of laather being used as lamellar armour in anciejt times, we have examples and survivals of leather armour from modern times, but leather was not used as armour in medieval times. The leather armour pieces you see in exanima do not exist in real life historically.
I have a tip for you all .. if you haven't already noticed the overhead is a bit slow... To complete the manouvere with more energy start to crouch half way through the attack and you will split their head open - especially with the 2 handed axe ! Enjoy .. another technique which I am practising now is to start a lunge from crouch position and stand up as you dash lunge forward - it's a real key twister!
Could you make a video pertaining to the skills in Examina? I'd like to see you explain, in further detail than the game does, about what each skill does and which ones you think are avoidable and which are more useful?
One thing I can't understand how you can kill a guy in full plate using just sword swings. They should introduce armor damage resistance feature, for example, chain is resistant to slash but weak to crush and pierce. Plate should be vulnerable only to crush and perhaps a very little bit to pierce. Otherwise, this game is awesome and. if I can say this for a game, ultra-realistic.
It was just implemented at the time, But back then I didn't use it as much. I'd definitely touch base on it if I had made this video now rather than before.
Is the advice on fighting shield bearers still valid with the addition of shield skills? I feel like the more skilled fighters use their shields more actively than what is shown here
How do you do a right to left swing and left to right swing? Like, what's the difference. Doesn't seem to be mouse movement because I move the mouse from left to right, it still does a right to left swing.
It takes a little more effort and intention to do left to right, for sure. The easiest way is to keep holding left click after a right to left, and then swing the mouse back to the right, which will transition the ending of the right to left into a left to right. This requires a specific skill to be unlocked and fully trained, however. The real way to do it involves clicking and swinging the cursor left to right, but one thing that might help make it more consistent is to click, do a quick jerk to the left, and then move into a left to right motion. One thing to keep in mind is that the character has a tendency to swing based on current stance. If you've just done a left to right swing and your arms are hanging to the right, it's far easier to do a right to left swing that it is to do another left to right swing. The reason it seems easier to do a right to left is because it is sort of the "default." Your character will do a right to left even without any mouse motion.
Because my edit button seems to be non-functional, allow me to make a correction here. The flick to the left I described as making left to right swings more consistent should be done *before* the click, not after, although it works both ways it seems more consistent when done before. And my edit button works for this comment but not the other one? Ok.
you don't have too, but that's pretty much where the story ends unless you decide to take a detour of level 5. If you die, you'll respawn at the portal
yeah I just got there and found the golems... Fuck them.. So after level 4 the game is over? more or less. where is the exit to level 4? Sorry I just really want to "beat" this game.
So they went overboard with weapon swinging physics but seemingly completely forgot that you can't cut through armour with a sword? Why are enemies in full plate dying from slash attacks? That's stupid. You should be stabbing them to find weakpoints in the plating.
This game is not made to be Extremely realistic, also even sword stabs hardly pierce through a plate armor, the best weapon would be a mace, or morning star.
He isn't cutting through plate armor with his sword, I don't understand where you got that from. What's happening is that the force of the swing is still transferring to his opponent. Basically bashing him unconscious through his armor. The game handles damage in two ways. You have fatigue and permanent damage. Fatigue damage is taken from blunt and crushing weapons and indicated by the dark yellow on the health bar. It is the type of damage that heals after a while. Permanent damage is indicated by red, and is taking by slashing and piercing weapons. The only way it heals is by healing salves.
There's lethal damage and blunt damage. The guy is using a bad weapon matchup against plate armor. He's just knocking them out. It takes a LOT of wailing to beat someone in plate armor with a sword in this game. Notice how the plate armor guys don't bleed from sword swipes when hit?
Me too, but if you master every direction you can learn how to do a sidestep past their guard and attack them from behind before they can react. I always make the back of their heads and neck bloody with this move, and when I successfully execute the technique its always an instant kill.
The controls in this game are not revolutionary. They are gimmicky. And they are bad. How? Because it's incredibly hard to learn naturally, and guides don't offer anything beyond the general advice like among the lines of "swing your arms and don't get hit". Whether you land a successful hit or not depends on far too many factors to count. Speed and distance of your attack in the current position, angular momentum and acceleration of your torso, camera position, light level, enemy suddenly deciding to kiss the tip of your sword, yourself tripping over your own legs... Most players come to rely on basic horizontal swings, timing and distance, as they settle on "good enough". In other words, this is the case where practice will never make perfect. One has to rely on predisposition or quit entirely.
Aurelius Lillehammer are you complaining that the game doesn’t hold your hand and make every hit an instant kill? jesus christ of course all of those are factors, that’s the point of the game, realism.
I know this is really old... but i think they should put in a beginners/easy mode to the game... the game is far too unforgiving and doesnt even offer a basic tutorial really... as well as almost no healing items means the game expects you to play perfectly even when your new to it...
It would be interesting to see multiplayer duels/arena matches.
Mr Nuhb yeah this would totally be an awesome competition game
It's confirmed.
That would be amazing.
4 YEARS
Brilliant guide! This game is AMAZING but I really think it will go under appreciated because of the steep learning curve and people's perception where they will not put in much practice and declare it "clunky" or whatever.
You know the combat system is good when solid boxing fundamentals translate directly into the strategy of the game!
I don't think the steep learning curve would be so much of an obstacle if the devs put in a good thorough tutorial for beginners.
The ones that give me the most trouble are:
The girl with the shield, she wears me down with weak blows and I struggle to hit her, sometimes I can hit her legs while doing a crouch attack, and that kind of works, or I get lucky and hit and overhead with the sledgehammer, which is my weapon of choice because of the more armored enemies later on.
The swordsman, he is quick AF and combo womboes me, every fight against that guy is a fucking hell of tension and clashing for me, unless I get lucky, or play good, his parrys are very good also.
And the one I haven't beaten yet, the full armored woman, she basically has my weapon but it's suuuuuuper long and she attacks really fast, it must have more balance that the sledgehammer, she fucks me up from a distance and I can't even touch her.
With practice and picking every piece of useful armor from my enemies at least I can get to that fight more or less consistently, but still, sometimes I just get killed before. It's really hard man, reaaaally hard. I swear, my fingers hurt from so many tries and tension lmao
hey man you'll get it in time, just know you can never be perfect and there's always something else to learn. If I use 1h sword alone I often lose to her as well
you can adjust your swings with your step in timing. staring a right hand attack with swords then dashing in and crouching at the first half second tends to lower the swing to knee level depending on the swords head weight and all that jazz and your character height. Giants struggle to hit legs but deliver powerful overheads where as smaller characters move slower but have better access to the **FEET**
Nice. Really hope this game gets big. Found it while randomly browsing steam. Great vid man.
Thanks man, i play this game for 5 hours, only can defeat 4 knight at novice.. after watching this, i complete expert
No worries bud, really glad I could help you out
I will always *remeber* :)
This dude flexing his fighting skills by fighting dudes in full armor and polearms with him only wearing a shirt and a one handed sword.
Great video! Learning this information made this beast of a game a tad bit easier to get back into. If you release any more videos I'll be here! You've got yourself another subscriber!
This game gives you a great feeling when you start to figure it out. Footwork is key. Move your feet constantly. Every time you move, it shifts your character's center of mass. Attacking from a good center of mass will be faster, more powerful and more accurate. When you swing a weapon, it also shifts your center of mass wildly, so you have to counter that with a hard lean in the other direction. Maintain center of mass during the swing and it will be stronger and faster.
The biggest mistake I've been making is paying too much attention to what my character is doing as I figure all this out and not watching the enemy almost exclusively.
Anyway, I want the creators of this game to get to work on the next Ultima Online-like MMORPG. This combat system is screaming for multiplayer.
i like how fantasy universes show people without helmets even though head is your most vital area.
There are helmets. Once you are past "Inept" level you can use them. It is wise to have protection on your head because the damage reduction from armor only applies to the area it covers. As in you get hit in the head without protection, you could die instantly.
***** I know, thats what i said. In exanima you MUST wear a helmet. However, things like leather caps did not exist, although arming caps existed and exanima portrays them well. Leather armour did not exist as a whole in history.
+Shrekas 2
Ahh, I see. I misread your previous comment.
What do you mean by "Leather armour did not exist as a whole in history"?
Matthew Almaraz I meat that leather armour was very rare.
Now, im going to give you examples of surviving leather armour. Only a hardened leather upper arm protection exists. Thats it.
Now, im going to give you examples of what people think is leather armour but it is a theory. There is a certain depiction of a knight of maybe 11-12th century, who wears strange cuisses and greaves. Those 2 pieces have decorations that are beloeved to be carved and as you know you couldnt carve metal at that time.
Now, there is a manuscript in french how to boil leather, so we know leather was used in certain armour components, but not as armour.
All of this information leads to the conclusion that leather was sometimes used for armour. Maybe only nobles afforded it as protection above mail. This is because leather was crazy expensive, rigid almost as metals, heavy material for armour. It was very strong though not as games depict.
The existing use of leather for protection is used mostly for shields. We have sources of laather being used as lamellar armour in anciejt times, we have examples and survivals of leather armour from modern times, but leather was not used as armour in medieval times. The leather armour pieces you see in exanima do not exist in real life historically.
I’d love a first person version of this game
late as fuck but chivalry
Late as fuck x2 but mordhau 1v1s
This is splendid! Thank you for recording this video. I also like the easter egg for GoT fans near the end of the video, haha; what a delight!
Informative and clean, and your style is really nice and satisfying to watch!
Doesn't matter how cool you think you look, ALWAYS wear a helmet. 😉👍
I have a tip for you all .. if you haven't already noticed the overhead is a bit slow... To complete the manouvere with more energy start to crouch half way through the attack and you will split their head open - especially with the 2 handed axe ! Enjoy .. another technique which I am practising now is to start a lunge from crouch position and stand up as you dash lunge forward - it's a real key twister!
You are awesome, my good sir! My thanks for making this video.
Imagine a soccer game with with real physics like this...
Could you make a video pertaining to the skills in Examina? I'd like to see you explain, in further detail than the game does, about what each skill does and which ones you think are avoidable and which are more useful?
very awesome and helpful video, thank you!
This game is god tier
Great vid. Thanks for taking the time to do this. You make it look so easy :D
One thing I can't understand how you can kill a guy in full plate using just sword swings. They should introduce armor damage resistance feature, for example, chain is resistant to slash but weak to crush and pierce. Plate should be vulnerable only to crush and perhaps a very little bit to pierce. Otherwise, this game is awesome and. if I can say this for a game, ultra-realistic.
Everything you just said already exists in the game
RTL-> OH -> LTR is a good combo, but, honestly, you can combo anything with anything, when using feint.
this is amazing... i have 40 hours in the game yet i still cant do this stuff feelsbadman
I will remeber
THRUSTS?
WOw, nice vid. GOt a hang of some moves.
how come you don't mention the thrust/lunge attack style? wasn't it implemented yet as you did this?
It was just implemented at the time, But back then I didn't use it as much. I'd definitely touch base on it if I had made this video now rather than before.
I'd actually be really interested in seeing you play the 5 dungeon levels along with arena; any chance of a let's play with commentary on combat? =)
I was considering doing something like that, but I thought it might be boring to watch me hack through the dungeons in an hour.
Is the advice on fighting shield bearers still valid with the addition of shield skills? I feel like the more skilled fighters use their shields more actively than what is shown here
Yes things have changed. Some of these techniques could still work but are far more situational. I still haven't figured out anything substantial yet
ha ha ha, i like you
Its hard...but ill try
For me mace and shield is the best :D
Could be useful to have an explanation of what RTL and LTL mean
Right to left and left to right swings.
How do you do a right to left swing and left to right swing? Like, what's the difference. Doesn't seem to be mouse movement because I move the mouse from left to right, it still does a right to left swing.
It takes a little more effort and intention to do left to right, for sure. The easiest way is to keep holding left click after a right to left, and then swing the mouse back to the right, which will transition the ending of the right to left into a left to right. This requires a specific skill to be unlocked and fully trained, however.
The real way to do it involves clicking and swinging the cursor left to right, but one thing that might help make it more consistent is to click, do a quick jerk to the left, and then move into a left to right motion.
One thing to keep in mind is that the character has a tendency to swing based on current stance. If you've just done a left to right swing and your arms are hanging to the right, it's far easier to do a right to left swing that it is to do another left to right swing.
The reason it seems easier to do a right to left is because it is sort of the "default." Your character will do a right to left even without any mouse motion.
Because my edit button seems to be non-functional, allow me to make a correction here. The flick to the left I described as making left to right swings more consistent should be done *before* the click, not after, although it works both ways it seems more consistent when done before.
And my edit button works for this comment but not the other one? Ok.
How do you do all these different swings? I can only swing from right to left.
might be useful to watch this video first ruclips.net/video/q392FPZUFeo/видео.html
Thanks! How do I beat level 4 do I have to fight sir?
you don't have too, but that's pretty much where the story ends unless you decide to take a detour of level 5. If you die, you'll respawn at the portal
yeah I just got there and found the golems... Fuck them.. So after level 4 the game is over? more or less. where is the exit to level 4? Sorry I just really want to "beat" this game.
RTL/ OH/ LTR
OH = Over Head i think but the other ?
RTL = ?
LTR = ?
Thanks
Right to left and left to right
thanks
So they went overboard with weapon swinging physics but seemingly completely forgot that you can't cut through armour with a sword?
Why are enemies in full plate dying from slash attacks? That's stupid. You should be stabbing them to find weakpoints in the plating.
This game is not made to be Extremely realistic, also even sword stabs hardly pierce through a plate armor, the best weapon would be a mace, or morning star.
He isn't cutting through plate armor with his sword, I don't understand where you got that from. What's happening is that the force of the swing is still transferring to his opponent. Basically bashing him unconscious through his armor.
The game handles damage in two ways. You have fatigue and permanent damage. Fatigue damage is taken from blunt and crushing weapons and indicated by the dark yellow on the health bar. It is the type of damage that heals after a while. Permanent damage is indicated by red, and is taking by slashing and piercing weapons. The only way it heals is by healing salves.
Not to mention the sword I'm using is the worst weapon in the game when fighting armor.
There's lethal damage and blunt damage. The guy is using a bad weapon matchup against plate armor. He's just knocking them out. It takes a LOT of wailing to beat someone in plate armor with a sword in this game. Notice how the plate armor guys don't bleed from sword swipes when hit?
Hmm. If you're knocking them out, do attacks to the body work or just to the head area?
What is LTR?
If they ever add multiplayer I would love to fight you.
what are RTL and LTR?
Right to left, left to right
how to prick?
E + leftmouse
what song is playing ? anyone know?
It's part of the exanima ost I think it's called battlements?? Not sure
just use space lol i rotate my cam 20 times in a combat
Me too, but if you master every direction you can learn how to do a sidestep past their guard and attack them from behind before they can react. I always make the back of their heads and neck bloody with this move, and when I successfully execute the technique its always an instant kill.
I use mouse look
horrible guide.
The controls in this game are not revolutionary. They are gimmicky. And they are bad.
How? Because it's incredibly hard to learn naturally, and guides don't offer anything beyond the general advice like among the lines of "swing your arms and don't get hit".
Whether you land a successful hit or not depends on far too many factors to count. Speed and distance of your attack in the current position, angular momentum and acceleration of your torso, camera position, light level, enemy suddenly deciding to kiss the tip of your sword, yourself tripping over your own legs... Most players come to rely on basic horizontal swings, timing and distance, as they settle on "good enough".
In other words, this is the case where practice will never make perfect. One has to rely on predisposition or quit entirely.
Aurelius Lillehammer are you complaining that the game doesn’t hold your hand and make every hit an instant kill? jesus christ of course all of those are factors, that’s the point of the game, realism.
Aurelius Lilehammer I think the reason there is 'too many' factors are because the game actually focuses on Realism.
I know this is really old... but i think they should put in a beginners/easy mode to the game... the game is far too unforgiving and doesnt even offer a basic tutorial really... as well as almost no healing items means the game expects you to play perfectly even when your new to it...
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