PT Actuator Tension R Active Belt Review - TLDW... It's F***ing Excellent!! 😀
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2022
- My review of the excellent PT Actuator Tension R active belt system.
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Man you are truly a chill person to listen because you make your vids/reviews very cool and informative without other crazy stuff which I like. Very good channel ! Subscribed already a long time ago ! 💯🏁👍
I appreciate that!
Looks good, elite level stuff here. Its been awesome to watch the rig evolve, a bit of living vicariously trough Karl.
My setup is crazy these days, I'm very lucky to have people like Bob from Race @ Home and LG give me a lot of it on loan or to keep! :)
That price is ridiculous. Its almost as much, as i paid for my whole motionrig. Essentially 2 motors pulling 2 strings, and they want 1 grand for it? But nice video, as always. 😎
Agreed mate, could be much cheaper.
You got a full motion rig for only a grand?!
Motion rig for a grand, whats the system ?
@@StuartPetty I wrote almost 😉. Got it for 1300€. A DOF Reality H2 on sale last year on amazon.
@@BadDanMe Oh, the H2, by which you mean 2 motors essentially pulling on a bunch of thin aluminum frame? Seams silly when you intentionally oversimplify something doesn’t it?
If you look at the inside of the TensionR and compare the components to the H2 you’ll find it is actually fairly similar. Both have two motors, two gearboxes, some PCBs for controll and conected to software that makes of run. So if you subtract the aluminum frame from the H2, you’ll probably be at the same price as the tensionR, so the price for the parts you get at actually similar. Yes, the motors at smaller, so is the gearbox etc, but smaller does not equal cheaper to produce/acquire in all cases. Sometimes quite the opposite even. Of course, that might not be worth it for some, as “all you get” is tension in the belts. But I don’t think it’s overpriced based on the hardware it consists of.
Also, it was originally 900USD, but due to all the world events everything is more expensive so it increased to 1000 some time ago.
Nice review and looks like a good product. There are so many ways for SIM racers to increase the immersion nowadays. The colour also goes with your rig quite nicely too.
For sure mate and yes it does you're right! :)
I love my G-Belt as well and btw. actuators are motors or basically drillers. Seems the G-Belt isn't as noisy as that system, but it comes with a controller box including a fan, at least less noisy than with the GS-5. The G-Belt doesn't have a belt included, but you can use 3 inch belts with it and only 2 inch with PT. The G-Belt is directly fixed behind my shoulder which should be a bit more direct and this is not an option with the PT because the space between the belts is too small, so no bolting to the seat directly in case someone is planning it. The G-Belt motors look a bit bigger, but don't know the power-figures and there is one negative: The G-Belt can only pull about 40 mm max because it doesn't coil up the belt like the PT. There are lever-arms inside pulling the belts and I would prefer more and a tight fitting 5/6-point-harness is kind of mandatory. The great about the GS-5 and G-Belt combination is, on the brake the G-Belt squeezes your shoulders while the back-plates moving backwards. I only saw one DIY-system on RUclips yet that could do this trick as well.
fabulous content Karl Gosling. I killed that thumbs up on your video. Always keep up the quality work.
Thanks mate! :)
@@KarlGosling no problem at all. always happy to support my fellow content creators. I am looking forward to improving on my own current video format I have uploaded and, in the future, trying to create content as good as yours in the long term.
It looks really nice. I will add it to the list of things that I may be able to afford one day lol.
Let us know when you are ready ;-)
I was skeptical on this product especially because of the price but after seeing your review I fully understand that I need to add this to my rig. Only makes sense after spending so much money already. Thanks for the honest and detailed review Karl. 🤙
You’re welcome mate, it's a great toy!
Did you get one already?
@@raceathome should be here in a few days 😎🏁🏁
@@raceathome got it. It's awsome!! 🏁🏁
Great video, I'd love to get one of these
You should!
Just discovered this .I want it now !
lol Then get one mate!
I want one now! The tightening during braking must be so immersive.
I recently purchased a home motion simulator and have also started streaming driving videos on this account.
They are some in our shop now... Race @ Home (link's in the description)
Waiting for this to come back into stock at raceathome before I made the decision but think I'll definitely be making this purchase. I agree I think sim racing stuff is extremely expensive but it is what it is. Shoulda took up something cheaper like knitting
Yeah there's nothing we can do, just have to suck it up... or starting knitting! lol
Mines arrived last week and I'm blown away! Really impressive! Still working out the kinks however, does yours ever just stop working and need reset and recalibrating mid session? Maybe I have it too tight
Another great video Karl. My PT Actuator Tension R arrived on Friday. Still researching /asking how to get it to fit a DoF Reality H3! I got it direct from Shao @PT sent it with two sets of mounting brackets you mention but my rig does not have alu extrusion frame.
Yeah you'll have to DIY something mate.
Hi can you let us know how you mounted it to the Dof ?
would you be so kind as to measure the Decibel when running they are loud?
THX you
Fantastic review Karl .
I’m looking at getting one for my flight sim g seat .
I have airbladders in the back and under the legs on the seat connected to 2x 60 kg servos ,having the seat belt tensioner would be fantastic ,can you please tell me if it works good with your flight sim ?
Thanks
Dave from Scotland
Ex Raf
Caa licenced aircraft engineer
and private pilot .
Nice review, wish it comes in green but right now I’ll stick to the Buttkicker gamer plus.
Will be interesting if Fanatec will take a swing at it with their DD motors. Then we can get really powerful and quiet system. Price is rather crazy though. I with they released a kit there you could source your own belts. This would make the system cheaper as well as allow people to customize the look of their system. Sure, red seat belts take 0.2sec off your lap time, but not everyone prefer that esthetics.
Please add a flight sims review. It´s very difficult to find a review of this item for flight sims. DCS player here.
The PT active belts TensionRs ARE HERE! Well, only last few left... Find them at Race at Home UK
Ahh the days of the Dot matrix printer
Race@home now taking deposits for these. 15 arriving in UK very soon.
Hi Karl
Thank you for this review, very interesting...
You mention two other active belt tensioning systems you used in the past. Which were these?
He doesn’t know
Hi,
Nice vidéo.
I was wondering if the system release or partially partially belt tension when you lock wheels on breaking ?
Tanks.
Eric
It's based on negative g force (deceleration) telemetry so yes.
So Karl with your system having surge couldn't you just anchor some belts and let the surge tighten them and loosen them? I understand this offers more with certain side pulling etc but did you ever try a static belt first? I am about to build a system with surge and figured static belts would give great feedback with surge pulling on them and loosening them. Your system is something I hope to replicate. Great review as always.
No mate, when you accelerate you surge forward (as in real life) and when you decelerate the system slowly returns to the neutral position so the belts would tighten at the opposite time to what they should.
I ran static belts and tried the reverse of this with my original motion platform and it does not work well IMO.
@@KarlGosling Appreciate the feedback. Just tracked down a video of it and you are correct, the sound is pretty loud. That is too bad. That kills it for me. Thanks again.
Race at home have two mounting options. Which one do I select for the GT OMEGA Prime cockpit, 40*80 or 40*160? thanks 🙂
40*160 mate.
I'd be interested to know if this is so much better than just fixing the seat belts to the non moving part of the frame as mine is, just using the motion rig movement itself to adjust the belt tension. I just can't see how this can be 1000 pounds worth of difference.
Way better mate, thats what I ran with my previous motion setup and it just doesn't feel that same at all, I think probably down to how you can tune this to how you want it (strength wise).
Sim racing products are very rarely "worth" their price IMO and this is no different.
@@KarlGosling thanks Karl. Keep being awesome man!
Nice review Karl. Did you get a chane for anyone else to give it a go? You mentioned you thought the seat height was a factor for it working well for you. So I wonder if this is another product where size/fit might be a critical factor. A big issue at that price. You also mentioned you initially had low expectations so I wonder if that added to being so impressed. It will be interesting to see how much you miss it if you switch it off after a while.
Not yet mate no, it would need to be someone taller than me for the shoulder strap height to be an issue though, anyone shorter is fine.
My low expectations where because I thought not having the waist belt tensioned would make it feel like only half a job, but I actually prefer it! :)
I have since turned it off and it's like losing tactiles, a big noticeable loss in physical feedback!
@@KarlGosling :-)))) LOL
Have you found them all now???
800 squid in Aussie $ is like a million billion $'s au, it's a no from me for now.
Though I would definitely like one...
Great review Karl.
Fucken oath mate😅
Respectfully, the sound produced by the motors is a nails on a chalkboard, feel it in my bones.
Yeah thankfully you'll never hear it over the game sounds in actual use! :)
Ive had one for a few months and couldn't sim without it now much the same way if you add a buttkicker you really notice how good it is when it'snot on. I have mine on a static rig and made rollers to mount on the seat so it pulls back rather than down. Also have mine attached to a 2inch tubular frame Tr8 which they made brackets for on request.
Thats how I felt once I turned it off too!
How loud are those motors to you?
@@vividpsychosis8222 for me there fine mate, not really any more intrusive than magnetic shifters or my wind sim at 50% plus my transducers tbh. A big difference is when I turned heave down because that's what make the most adjustment noise.with surge and sway the motors aren't making a stack of micro movements.
@@michaelpickford7298 so if I have a dbox coming next week. Why would I need heave for the belts? I feel like I just want em for surge and sway. Sound about right in my thinking?? So turning heave down lowers the noise a lot?
@@vividpsychosis8222 I have a wife and 2 kids and the noise doesn't bother them and I have a decent pair of headphones and can't hear them at all. Not for everyone but if you can afford them definitely a big level of immersion added by having them.
I am a owner of this tensionR kit I really like what it adds...but it's really loud is even over my dof motion simulator...did an unboxing vid.
11:03 You need to check out the G-head puller! Its the next hot immersion device, lol!
Brilliant review, can't wait to have thr eye roll from the wife when I tell he I want to spend an additional £800 on the rig 🤭🤦🏾
You mentioned USB Hub, so I have to ask as I've been debating weather or not to put more USBs inside my PC rig or but a Hub, what Hub are you using?
I know that eye roll all too well mate! lol
It's a Sabrent powered hub amzn.to/37nbVEM
No idea what this is but I’m watching the review
Great review there mate..!!! 👍💯😉 From my perspective, here at home within the.. 🇧🇲 "Bermuda Islands..!!!", the noise appears to originate from the belts rubbing against the enclouser itself..!!! 😳😲 What do you think..??? 🤔
Yeah as Marcelo says it's the gears, you only hear it if you have no other sounds on in the room, not a concern for most of us but I have to show it of course! :)
When you're running wind, motion, vibrators, active belts etc. does this create any kind of lag because of the increased load on cpu?
I run this belt system through SRS and my wind, buttkickers and pedal rumble motors through Simhub and there's no noticeable lag
No mate none.
this pt belt actuator is able to move also the 2 lateral belts on the belly or just the 2 on shoulders ? thx a lot
Shoulders only.
How was it with your flight sim setup? Does it pull when climbing in a plane etc?
I've not tried it mate but MSFS is supported.
@@KarlGosling You should give it a go and let us know maybe in a separate video. It would be interesting to see if MSFS and DCS uses it to feel the G forces when steep climbing and during hard rolls. That would be pretty awesome....great vids btw! Subscribed.
@@justaguydoinstuff Good idea :-))
Can you do some vids of you racing on your rig so we can see you and all the gear in action please
Just look on my channel mate, search for "Dirt Rally" or "5 DOF Full Motion"
Honestly from my track driving you feel most the force in your shoulders because your upper body is a moment arm you don't get side belt pull that should already be real tight anyway
Yup, but unexpectedly this belt setup feels very much like that, I don't know why but thats what it feels like! :)
👀 I dont think I could get away with 800quid without the missus being on crimewatch, plus the noise pollution! Does look like a good bit of kit though.
What I can get away with is around 200quid for new pedals, any suggestions please would be greatly appreciated 🥃
Get the Fanatec CSL Loadcell Pedals, there’s no real competition in that price bracket
@@FinnD777 I have a looky, most appreciated 🥃 result watching Karl review on them now 🍻
Yeah the price is steep but I have mine on a static rig and love it, if I wanted to go motion it would cost me 3x the price. So it's good value from that pov lol.
GIANT CAR!
Is there a danger that, if you had a malfunction such as your actuators pushing your seat up and the belt pulling you back at the same time, you could be injured?
No mate this moves with my rig.
I love the idea of the product and what it would do for my motion rig, but Jesus those motors…… they need to get something quieter…
Can I use SimHub for this system if I use it to control my Buttkickers? Or would I need to run SimHub and Sim Racing Studio simultaneously?
I've not tried using SimHub sorry mate.
Has this become permanent on your rig? (Would love to see what you have as your "main" setup) Cheers!
It has mate, but with my current back problems I leave it off.
does it g forces better than a nlrv3?
Thats a motion platform, this is an active harness.
@@KarlGosling yes and both are different approaches to do the same thing.... fake g forces to your body
Great idea, however the price & the dot matrix printer sound it’s me off. 🤔
A dot matrix printer is exactly what I thought as I was editing the video! lol
Would of thought it would be USBC for that sort of money. Longer lasting port.
Yeah very odd the port is marked as USB C when it's not?! lol
I remember the price was 899 but, it is now 999. Do you have a discount code?
I don't mate sorry.
Will this work with Next Level Racing Software?
It's a standalone product with it's own software as far as I know, from Sim Racing Studio.
Shanghai is closed Karl, nothing is leaving China right now. Not even Covid.
800 and ...... bye
Aye up Karl I want a PC for iracing where do I start??
Thats far too much of a complicated question mate, you're probably better off going to a pre built PC website if you are new to PC's? Or maybe a local computer shop?
my pt actuator belt tensioner is not working properly. i can operate it at maximum half the power, otherwise it just drops out after a couple of minutes. extremly annoying. pt actuator support is a joke. i am in contact with them back and forth over weeks, without any helpful clue what the problem might be. ridiculous.
I've heard talk of crap PSU's and this sounds just like that, PTA are very much aware... if they choose to do something is another matter.
@@KarlGosling thx. i guess they switched PSU's. they asked me about mine, and it seems that i have the "new" model. so i should be fine... theoretically.
I don’t think you needed to explain the physics of it. 😂
Boosted Gosling
You don’t need that fix your seatbelt to a fixed point all off them and, brake and with surge your seatbelt tensions, the feeling is one on one from hard to trailbraking, no need for extra software and settings.
No need for surge if you don’t use your belt.
This system is for people with no motion!!!
If your surge is moving forwards when you brake then it's working incorrectly... cars only surge forwards when accelerating (unless you are in reverse) and do not surge at all when breaking.
This system also tightens the belts in various other ways like when cornering hard or heaving over jumps in rally titles.
@@KarlGosling it is the only dof you can feel g-forces and you are trying to ruin that for people!!!
Brake and your body want to move forward and with a car on slicks you are slammed inthe seatbelts to the point it will hurt your body that us what you are trying to simulate not what the car is doing.
And you can simulate that if your surge moves forward under braking, put on Vr and you can nog tell the difference.
You will even feel the different stages from hard to trailbraking.
@@svenhoeylaerts3249I have to agree. I use surge forward on braking always have, feels spot on. I tried both. I race in vr. Tention r arriving Wednesday
This guy looks like he was built from corpse parts.
We all are...
Hey Karl, you are looking a bit bald, where's the hat? Can't wait for the back waxxing video lol
😆🤦♂️😥😆
this is extremely overpriced
Most sim gear is IMO.