Pre-meditated murder. Tony Atlas deserves all the respect in the world. Not as a wrestler, but as a human being. I know Tony has known to embellish but I truly believe Tony was the only one with good intentions, did what was right and didnt give a f*ck as far as being attacked for helping Brody, being booked, his job etc
They were going to kill Tony too. I have heard Tony, Dutch, and Savio all state before, that Tony walked and stayed on the beach all night, until he could get out the next morning. All these yrs, and all of the videos of these 3 telling the story, it hasn't changed once.
Tony said that Savio was at the hotel and told him he had to get out of there because people were looking for him because he was talking about what happened.
Shiet, if i was American in that lockerroom that day, i woulda hit the airport right after. Or if i was Brody friend, woulda posted up at the hospital til whenever tho. Idk who was on the card but sounds like there was about a handful of Americans only..
Where I lived in New Jersey we got WWC on Saturday Mornings and I would watch with my Dad. We couldn't understand the language but we loved the shows. WWC was my introduction to Brody and Abdullah.
Thanks for going deep on this boys. I always wondered what a recollection between you 2 would sound like on this. Fkn horrible memory so thank you. Rip bruiser.
To draw the crowd for his new company. When Savio didn't have any big names in Puerto Rico during that time except Chicky Starr who were half manager and wrestler but more so manager.
The Isaac Rosario Savio mentioned was a journeyman wrestler who worked in the States in WWWF as Pancho Valdez. He also worked in other promotions as Gypsy Joe Rosario. He passed away of COVID-19 a couple of years ago.
this situation is why i lost respect dutch. he didnt care about brody he didnt wana do anything that could potentially make him lose his job so he turned a blind eye to the situation
Tony Atlas has said several times that it took almost 2 hours for the ambulance to arrive. Between the sold out wrestling match and the sold out Minudo show the entire area was in total gridlock. Also Atlas says it was just a bare van with no equipment and there was an old lady and an elderly man who drove the ambulance(no EMT).
Being from the St Louis area and brought up on Wrestling at the Chase, they always referred to him as King Kong Brody and he was here a lot, but so was Dick the Bruiser and i guess they didn't want any confusion.
Around 1986, WWC finally came to my home town, Arecibo. That was my first live event. TNT had Isaac Rosario unconscious, due to the Cobra sleeper, & would no wake him up. The man sitting next to me pulled a long knife, & ran towards the ring, to help Rosario. Luckily the man was stopped by security. PS: that night Rosario also ripped our tickets at the entrance. That match is on RUclips, but the hard camera was filming away from the knife incident.
Murdering Bruiser Brody was unnecessary. If Carlos didn't want Brody, all he had to do was fire and no longer book Brody. Don't have a man killed because of it.
Savio Vega isn't IWA's sole decision maker. I guess he could do more to keep Invader 1 out, and I admit to not knowing who can overrule him now that Quinones is dead, but in WWL/Liga Wrestling Richard Negrin could overrule him on Invader too.
Exactly, and why doesn’t anyone bring this up more??? Savio still doing business with invader to this day snd he could have spoken up but he chose not to. Probably would have been killed.
@@ravishingrickrude3721we get why have a max moon character in costume but savio looked like he was going to a Puerto Rican parade after he was done fixing the ticket lol. I mean no disrespect to savio but his gear was just horrid
@@ravishingrickrude3721 I didn't remember Max Moon (Paul Diamond) in WWF so I looked him up and... OMG! That was a horrible outfit. It can't be described - you just have to see it.
In my honest opinion, things got completely out of control because the owners of WWC were not supervisng company,s events properly and always asked Invader for running the shows! Only God knows what really happened and only It will made the right judgment
Both of them knew how convenient he happened to be out of the room when it happened and he came back right after. Then dutch just happens to become big in PR. You tell a lie long enough even you start to believe it. I've always seen his role in it fishy if you look at everything. It's all just to convenient. If someone killed a friend would you go work there?
Dutch has explained this before ..... He didn't go back to Puerto Rico for several years. But when he did finally go back it was because there was hardly anywhere else to work, thanks to Vince causing all the territories to shut down.
@johnjaso3281 we are so lucky to be able to revisit these memories with the help of RUclips. Sometimes i put on a whole broadcast and watch it while im working out.
Why does everyone talk badly about dutch for going back to Puerto Rico? He needed money and had nowhere to go...like what is he gonna do? You boycott but what was he supposed to do?
Vega wasn't the only person who thought Bruiser Brody was beating Invader #1, and why everyone else thought that is that Brody had already beaten him up once and had even gotten into fights with Dick The Bruiser. Obviously, everyone was shocked to find Brody on the ground, instead of the other way around.
@@floggyWM1 May have very well been. I don't know why he beat up Invader before this and refused to make him look good. I don't know if Brody kept tormenting him, if Invader just held onto the grudge, some combination of the two or something else entirely.
He booked early to mid 90s but he made sure he and invader didnt have angles together..he also booked for iwa which his booking brought monster ratings for a saturday afternoon program
@@dary0097 Cause I can, That Island is so corrupt, I hate that the USA Politicals use it as a Debt dumping ground, but it is a lawless land and their Politos don't mind as long as they skim of the top.
No disrespect meant, but how could the Youngbloods, Jay and Mark, have been there when Jay died in 1985, and Bruiser in 1988? Was there another Youngbloods tag team Savio is referring to?
@@FrankC71 All of them knew they'd be finished in the business if they did (if not worse). And worse than that, Puerto Ricans are racists. They hate everybody who isn't them (especially Whites).
Giving a shout out to a piece of trash who wishes someone a slow and painful death. Have you ever seen a loved one go through a slow and painful death ? I have, and i wouldn't wish that on anyone.
He still has to work. That promotion down there is the only one that they really have. I'm sure that he's not buddy- buddy with the man but he has bills to pay too.
Memories fade and we make false memories. I saw the interview of Savio with Jim Cornette and in thet one he claimed that Colon's tag partner was translating for the cops. This pissed of Colon and he said to Savio, "Does he want the same to happen to him?" May not be important but an example of people misremembering things.
Yeah, no kidding on the false memories. It wasn't Carlos Colon who said that nor was it Colon's tag team partner. It was Invader's tag team partner who was translating for Tony Atlas to the police. Invader, Jose Gonzalez, was talking to Savio Vega going over the finish to the match and said that about Tony Atlas. The translator was Invader #2, Robert Soto.
The catalyst of this horrific tragedy is that everyone who was directly involved participated in worshipping the rectum. The entire roster was anxiously poised for the relentless worship of the rectum.
I don't really get what your point is an consider myself a fairly intelligent person who is well verse on a lot of stuff but this time you got me lost what you state I like to believe is the ritual of initiation for Catholic priest all over the world but for wrestlers I highly doubt it I know there is a who are addicted to the rectamente but for the most that's the realm of Catholic priests they love to be penetrated as they also love to rape small male children an even little Girls but wrestlers I don't know.
I will like to see all together to see who's lying and who's telling the truth according to Tony's testimony nobody help Brody only him and savior now saying that he help Brody and lay him on the floor and the doctor was helping etc.
I would like to see hulk Hogan take a polygraph test on national television Steve wilkos 📺 prove that he had nothing to do with it. He doesn't have the ball's for that.
Hogan you did lot of people rong some say you have to be selfish and stingy in this business. If you pass a polygraph test results show you had nothing to do with it or have any prior knowledge you would clear you name with the old school Fans. Bruiser Brody was supposed to come in and take the title away from you shortly after you got it from the iron sheik. Us wrestling fans got cheated out of the greatest feud in the history of professional wrestling when Bruiser Brody passed away. So why don't you take a test and clear your name hogan to the old school FANS!!
I'm a non- wrestling fan I only watch these podcasts because it's old school wrestling. Dutch plays the dum hillbilly role maybe its the real him. I just don't see where he is all that good. And that dam cigar I'm glad he is well and make money off his business.
Pre-meditated murder. Tony Atlas deserves all the respect in the world. Not as a wrestler, but as a human being. I know Tony has known to embellish but I truly believe Tony was the only one with good intentions, did what was right and didnt give a f*ck as far as being attacked for helping Brody, being booked, his job etc
Just heard of this and I'm brainfked. Dude slept at the fkn beach because he had a feeling.
They were going to kill Tony too. I have heard Tony, Dutch, and Savio all state before, that Tony walked and stayed on the beach all night, until he could get out the next morning. All these yrs, and all of the videos of these 3 telling the story, it hasn't changed once.
Tony said that Savio was at the hotel and told him he had to get out of there because people were looking for him because he was talking about what happened.
Oh wow , I saw this .. I saw tha. stfu !
Shiet, if i was American in that lockerroom that day, i woulda hit the airport right after. Or if i was Brody friend, woulda posted up at the hospital til whenever tho. Idk who was on the card but sounds like there was about a handful of Americans only..
@@aceloco817Puertorricans are americans too. What continent PR is ? . what's their citizenship ?.
Where I lived in New Jersey we got WWC on Saturday Mornings and I would watch with my Dad. We couldn't understand the language but we loved the shows. WWC was my introduction to Brody and Abdullah.
Tony atlas refusing to lie and stay silent about the truth is probably why all the other wrestlers hate him
What was motive for Brody death
Thanks for going deep on this boys. I always wondered what a recollection between you 2 would sound like on this. Fkn horrible memory so thank you. Rip bruiser.
I think Savio was explaining an anxiety attack when he said he was stuck shaking under the blanket. RIP Bruiser
Savio and Jose recently worked together in 2022. If Savio is disgusted with Jose, why did he bring him into IWA?
I was thinking the same. I guess money, because Invader was still over with the crowd for whatever reason.
To draw the crowd for his new company. When Savio didn't have any big names in Puerto Rico during that time except Chicky Starr who were half manager and wrestler but more so manager.
It's a Business...
Savio and Jose have worked MANY, MANY, MANY times all these years,
They are both kayfabing you. They knew it was going to happen & didn't say anything to their brother King Kong Brody.
You guys were all in on it
Savio had nothing to do with that
Premeditated, murder, plain and simple. I hate Invader 1 and I’m 🇵🇷 Rip Brody
Muy bien Savio aprendió Gracias por las contestaciones 😮
Very interesting story. Hate Brody was killed. Absolutely no justice there.
That uneasy feelin u had dutch was your guilt, u knew what was gonna happen
I do like his podcastd and his wrestling but have heard befired he knows more than he lets on
My question is why did they let invader just walk out?Can't believe no one jumped on him knowing who did it?
Everyone knows Invader did it. The whole promotion was protecting him. The murder weapon disappeared and witnesses gave bad testimony.
The Isaac Rosario Savio mentioned was a journeyman wrestler who worked in the States in WWWF as Pancho Valdez. He also worked in other promotions as Gypsy Joe Rosario. He passed away of COVID-19 a couple of years ago.
not to be confused with *that* Gypsy Joe, which I did initially reading your comment until I did a bit of research.
this situation is why i lost respect dutch. he didnt care about brody he didnt wana do anything that could potentially make him lose his job so he turned a blind eye to the situation
Justice for Brody 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢family together strong 💪
Justice is Just Us...
there isnt a god, unfortunately.
At least, not the fake abrahamic god
Pray for Brody's Soul.
Tony Atlas has said several times that it took almost 2 hours for the ambulance to arrive. Between the sold out wrestling match and the sold out Minudo show the entire area was in total gridlock. Also Atlas says it was just a bare van with no equipment and there was an old lady and an elderly man who drove the ambulance(no EMT).
Being from the St Louis area and brought up on Wrestling at the Chase, they always referred to him as King Kong Brody and he was here a lot, but so was Dick the Bruiser and i guess they didn't want any confusion.
That FEELING DUTCH WAS TALKING ABOUT IS CALLED DEATH 💀 YES THE SPIRIT OF DEATH WAS IS THE LOCKER ROOM 💯
Around 1986, WWC finally came to my home town, Arecibo. That was my first live event. TNT had Isaac Rosario unconscious, due to the Cobra sleeper, & would no wake him up. The man sitting next to me pulled a long knife, & ran towards the ring, to help Rosario. Luckily the man was stopped by security. PS: that night Rosario also ripped our tickets at the entrance. That match is on RUclips, but the hard camera was filming away from the knife incident.
What?? I was in PR in 86. I was 11 and in LOVE with WWC. I need to look this up.
Murdering Bruiser Brody was unnecessary. If Carlos didn't want Brody, all he had to do was fire and no longer book Brody. Don't have a man killed because of it.
i thought Brody bought Gorilla monsoons shares to be a booker
Buddy Landell said the Invader's child had recently died & Brody used to beat the piss out of him before the attack.
@@E.C.2 good, Invader is a trashy piece of ahit
@@joeycorman3390 Don't celebrate the death of his child,that is tragic.
My only issue with savio is if situation bothered him so much. Why does he use invader in his promotion iwa Puerto Rico
Like literally the last year(2022). Invader had his last match in IWA.
Carny gotta carny brother. That's the way the business is.
It's a Business Brother....and in P.R there isn't that much To choose from like in WWE
Savio Vega isn't IWA's sole decision maker. I guess he could do more to keep Invader 1 out, and I admit to not knowing who can overrule him now that Quinones is dead, but in WWL/Liga Wrestling Richard Negrin could overrule him on Invader too.
Exactly, and why doesn’t anyone bring this up more??? Savio still doing business with invader to this day snd he could have spoken up but he chose not to. Probably would have been killed.
Savio's head is looking like New Jack
Always liked Savio in WWF but he had the worst ring gear ever
Worse than Max Moon?😂
@@ravishingrickrude3721we get why have a max moon character in costume but savio looked like he was going to a Puerto Rican parade after he was done fixing the ticket lol. I mean no disrespect to savio but his gear was just horrid
@@ravishingrickrude3721 I didn't remember Max Moon (Paul Diamond) in WWF so I looked him up and... OMG! That was a horrible outfit. It can't be described - you just have to see it.
@@ravishingrickrude3721 ok ok maybe Savio had the second worst but at least Max Moons took some effort
It was cool in 1992 lol
In my honest opinion, things got completely out of control because the owners of WWC were not supervisng company,s events properly and always asked Invader for running the shows! Only God knows what really happened and only It will made the right judgment
They were going to kill Tony too. He was warned by Savio and left PR just in time. I wonder if they'll talk about that
The only person I heard that from was Tony Atlas.
@@jd9119ok and???
OT being from NC the Youngbloods were huge here in the Mid Atlantic...no one ever really talks about them..
Man ,I love those guys.
Savio vs Austin was a great fued
lol, In Your House Free For All before the ppv
Both of them knew how convenient he happened to be out of the room when it happened and he came back right after. Then dutch just happens to become big in PR. You tell a lie long enough even you start to believe it. I've always seen his role in it fishy if you look at everything. It's all just to convenient. If someone killed a friend would you go work there?
Dutch has explained this
before ..... He didn't go back
to Puerto Rico for several years.
But when he did finally go
back it was because there
was hardly anywhere else to
work, thanks to Vince causing
all the territories to shut down.
@Randall-dg6wn Dutch was in Puerto Rico not soo long ago as a Manager
Dutch took Brody's job as booker
Dutch that was your sixth sense kicking in like on high alert it happed to me that way once so I feel you
God damn Savio getting close to Abdullah the butcher levels of blade scars
Lol! No doubt. Savio used to bleed often in WWC. Have you seen Carlos Colon?
I grew up watching WCCW. Brody was a staple in that territory.
Remember SPOILERS one & two. Gary Hart. The VON ERICHS; Etc etc .
@johnjaso3281 we are so lucky to be able to revisit these memories with the help of RUclips. Sometimes i put on a whole broadcast and watch it while im working out.
Why does everyone talk badly about dutch for going back to Puerto Rico? He needed money and had nowhere to go...like what is he gonna do? You boycott but what was he supposed to do?
Ive felt that same feeling of being ICE COLD with a hoodie on, a blanket over me, & its Florida heat.
Trust me. You dont wanna be there.
Funny thing none of them mentioned Tony Atlas be in the shower saving Brody.
Savio Vega works for IWA... guess who also works there today? Invader... who cut a promo about Brody.
INSANE. Only in Wrestling
Savio has some serious craters in his head
Vega wasn't the only person who thought Bruiser Brody was beating Invader #1, and why everyone else thought that is that Brody had already beaten him up once and had even gotten into fights with Dick The Bruiser. Obviously, everyone was shocked to find Brody on the ground, instead of the other way around.
so brody was the bully?
@@floggyWM1 May have very well been. I don't know why he beat up Invader before this and refused to make him look good. I don't know if Brody kept tormenting him, if Invader just held onto the grudge, some combination of the two or something else entirely.
Harley Race stated that Brody was a bully.
Lets let this man rest
Didnt Dutch become the booker after Brody got killed
He booked early to mid 90s but he made sure he and invader didnt have angles together..he also booked for iwa which his booking brought monster ratings for a saturday afternoon program
Well it's not like he got in trouble so he didn't need to worry about returning to the scene of the crime
17:55 ya think Dutch? True detective
Oh wao !
Was Vega the one that trashed Randy Savage's room and waited for Hogan in his room, brandishing a gun.
Being Mohawk and who I am the for Brody would have won I don't what either side does but only for the truth
I am so glad Business went down since the day Brody died. F Puerto Rico!
Wow that's kinda Racist , It was one man who did it Why Blame P.R ?
@@dary0097 Cause I can, That Island is so corrupt, I hate that the USA Politicals use it as a Debt dumping ground, but it is a lawless land and their Politos don't mind as long as they skim of the top.
@@dary0097 maybe the cover up and lack of justice and all who went along with it?
amen fuck Puerto Rico
Cuz no one helped them so guess what you all accomplices
Did the murderer ever tell anyone why he stabbed Bruiser Brody?
He claimed self defense.
Is the saying he was killed because he was wearing shorts? That's what made invader mad enough to stab someone?
6:25 angel of death hovering nearby.. just waiting
No disrespect meant, but how could the Youngbloods, Jay and Mark, have been there when Jay died in 1985, and Bruiser in 1988? Was there another Youngbloods tag team Savio is referring to?
Mark was there. The other guy was invented but it wouldn't work in the states. They tried but to no avail.
Chris
Jay died in Australia.
My memory's a bit fuzzy, but he could be referring to Mark and Chris.
He clearly mentioned Chris Youngblood. Yeah Jay died in 85, but Mark and Chris continued working after Jay passed away.
Basically no one stepped up for Brody
Tony did
@@mitzicarpenter2820 True That, I mean those from Puerto Rico who called him God or a Hero
@@FrankC71 All of them knew they'd be finished in the business if they did (if not worse). And worse than that, Puerto Ricans are racists. They hate everybody who isn't them (especially Whites).
minute 21:35
Happy 59th birthday to Savio
Young enough to still get into the ring.
I believe atlas. Period.
Something must have happened between those two before the murder happened. It sounds like his actions were premeditated.
Savio hasn’t aged a day
Oh , He looks live Abdullah the butcher
I said the same thing.
They were a team in Japan lol
Shout out hannibal. He is the one who shed light on the brody situation to me.
Hes going through a hard time. Prayers for ya big man
Hannibal probably has CTE seems like a nice bloke tho
James hates Hannibal he will probably delete your comment
@@jonbourgoin182 if he does I unsubscribe. Hannibal blocked me on my last channel I still don't hate him.
@@jonbourgoin182 do I recognize you from FYTON? Or MRE?
Giving a shout out to a piece of trash who wishes someone a slow and painful death. Have you ever seen a loved one go through a slow and painful death ? I have, and i wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Carlos protected invader, because his business.he knew what invader did was gonna be bad for his business .its sad .
Mantell was there and didn't do a thing. He even went back to PR.
Tio Savio!!!!
Savio acted like he was so disgusted with jose yet he been working with him rin the iwa many decades later until 2022
He still has to work. That promotion down there is the only one that they really have. I'm sure that he's not buddy- buddy with the man but he has bills to pay too.
I have been a wrestling fan for over 40 years now, how many more times can this be talked about, really?.
Premonition.
Memories fade and we make false memories. I saw the interview of Savio with Jim Cornette and in thet one he claimed that Colon's tag partner was translating for the cops. This pissed of Colon and he said to Savio, "Does he want the same to happen to him?"
May not be important but an example of people misremembering things.
Yeah, no kidding on the false memories. It wasn't Carlos Colon who said that nor was it Colon's tag team partner. It was Invader's tag team partner who was translating for Tony Atlas to the police. Invader, Jose Gonzalez, was talking to Savio Vega going over the finish to the match and said that about Tony Atlas. The translator was Invader #2, Robert Soto.
Savio's got a forehead like Abdullah The Butcher now.
He was Abdullah protégé in Japan.
The catalyst of this horrific tragedy is that everyone who was directly involved participated in worshipping the rectum. The entire roster was anxiously poised for the relentless worship of the rectum.
I don't really get what your point is an consider myself a fairly intelligent person who is well verse on a lot of stuff but this time you got me lost what you state I like to believe is the ritual of initiation for Catholic priest all over the world but for wrestlers I highly doubt it I know there is a who are addicted to the rectamente but for the most that's the realm of Catholic priests they love to be penetrated as they also love to rape small male children an even little Girls but wrestlers I don't know.
Untold? 🤨
Untold - means a great amount. Eg ted diabase has untold millions
@@rahowherox1177ok then this story is very untold
Wow captain obvious Dutch. Of course he intended to whack Brody
toom him 30 years to come to the conclusion
I will like to see all together to see who's lying and who's telling the truth according to Tony's testimony nobody help Brody only him and savior now saying that he help Brody and lay him on the floor and the doctor was helping etc.
carlos colon and jovica conspiracy on this crime.
I would like to see hulk Hogan take a polygraph test on national television Steve wilkos 📺 prove that he had nothing to do with it. He doesn't have the ball's for that.
? not sure if this is a joke but what the hell would hogan have to do with this
Hogan you did lot of people rong some say you have to be selfish and stingy in this business. If you pass a polygraph test results show you had nothing to do with it or have any prior knowledge you would clear you name with the old school Fans. Bruiser Brody was supposed to come in and take the title away from you shortly after you got it from the iron sheik. Us wrestling fans got cheated out of the greatest feud in the history of professional wrestling when Bruiser Brody passed away. So why don't you take a test and clear your name hogan to the old school FANS!!
Dutch still worked in Puerto Rico years after that shame on Dutch
dutch knew what happened he didnt care cause he wanted to keep his little cushy job down there
@@miketurner643 yup
I'm a non- wrestling fan I only watch these podcasts because it's old school wrestling. Dutch plays the dum hillbilly role maybe its the real him. I just don't see where he is all that good. And that dam cigar I'm glad he is well and make money off his business.
He have gain unhealthy weight I hope he is well.
Jovica, Colon and Invader were complicit
I'm glad business went into the toilet for WWC
They are all trash and I'm glad the company tanked
You were part of it, you should have said he had the towel coddled to his chest and arm, so yes Thank you
Savio is a bit annoying in this interview- just my opinion.
Vince Russo put Jim Cornette over on Chris Van Vliet
giraffe neck Vliet🤮
Enough already Dutch. Is this like your 10th video on Frank?
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Savio your English is still not that Great 🙄
Speaking good enough English to me . Must be something with your Hearing .