Joe makes sense...as soon as Pun died it was crunch time for his wife...she should have liquidated all assets and purchased a manageable home and car for her and the kids, anything left over after that should have been used towards setting up a career for herself. I do believe that a portion of all royalties owed to Pun after his death should have went into an account for his children though.
Yeah but the thing is fat Joe owns big puns Masters that's a check every week for life that's going in his pocket instead of puns family that's the part he ain't telling
Afi James After years of a tumultuous legal battle, Fat Joe and Big Pun’s widow, Liza Rios, have finally settled out of court in her breach of contract case, Bossip reports. The back and forth began in 2014, when Rios filed a lawsuit against Fat Joe, seeking more than $1 million. Rios claimed she’d struck a deal with Fat Joe to split money made by Big Pun after his untimely death in February 2000, but hadn’t received any money from Joe since 2005. Fat Joe and his co-defendant, music publisher John “Jellybean” Benitez of Jelly’s Jams struck a deal with Rios to keep the case from going to trial. On Wednesday morning (June 22), a deal was announced during a status hearing at Manhattan Federal Court. Neither Fat Joe or Benitez were present, though Fat Joe’s lawyer, Benjamin Stranzl declared to the judge that the parties involved had settled. Terms of the settlement remain confidential but according to reports, it was likely significant-a little over $2 million, in fact. “Based on information provided and my professional industry knowledge, I have determined that Big Pun has been underpaid by at least $2,076,093,” Ali Adawiya, who testified on behalf of Rios in the lawsuit, wrote, according to documents obtained by Bossip in March 2016. Last year, Rios and her attorney discussed the then pending lawsuit with AllHipHop.com, expressing their disappointment in Fat Joe’s actions, especially since Pun and Joe were so close. “He loved Joe and the squad,” Rios said during the interview. “That was his heart. So for him to give so much to them, and give so much to Terror Squad, and make Terror Squad what it was, because he made it what it was…for them to turn their backs on his family, his kids… he’d be heartbroken.” Rios’ lawyer, Lita Rosario, told Bossip she was pleased with the settlement. “We think it was fair, and we’re pleased,” she said. Fat Joe’s lawyers, Stranzl and John Cain refused to comment. Big Pun, who battled constantly with his weight, was 700 pounds when he died at age 28 of a heart attack. Read More: Fat Joe Finally Settles Lawsuit with Big Pun's Widow | theboombox.com/fat-joe-finally-settles-lawsuit-with-big-puns-widow/?trackback=tsmclip
He made some valid points . .. he was willing to help out in the beginning . Even gave her ideas to open beauty salons . Very smart.. but no disrespect she sounds lazy.
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Sounds like she just didn't know how to manage any of the money he claims to have given her. She can't expect to keep living off people or Puns memory he's been gone for a very long time. It's called a job she should get one and stop standing with her hand out in the air.
It wouldn't have mattered, Pun always lived beyond his means, he was awarded a load of money on a settlement check (before rap), long story short it's how he gained weight
If Liza had invested that money in hair and nail salons she would be financially set to this day. I take my mother to get her hair and nails done every couple of weeks and see nothing but Black and Puerto Rican women in there spending all kinds of money to keep shit together.
150k to pay off mortgage in NY and open a hair saloon? LOOOOOL - fat joe settled with her after this interview for 2 million $ - which he would have never done, if he did not owe her. he forced her to sell the house and into having to get social housing by not paying her what was legally hers earlier. yes his music and big puns is / was nice, but that does mean everything this dude does is legit.
afi james lmao you act like joe is their step dad or some shit. he dont get no visitation rights. haha he robbed puns family. joes been fallin off since pun died. hes been trying to hang on to that thread. black balled remy and he fell off so much he had no choice but to get her back. an even then his an remys album flopped. haha karma is a bitch. he fucked with puns money now his shit is slowly but surely going to shit. liza aint no bitch tho she was just fighting for what was rightfully Puns. which goes to her an the 3 kids, idk how u can still talk shit bout her but suck joes dick after you clearly saw that he did owe pun and was holding the money and refusing to give it to them. you can continue to suck his dick but the facts stand. hes a snake and fucked up everything he had going for himself. just imagine if he didnt fuck over puns wife an cuban an everyone else from the original TS he would have it made. but he made his bed so now he gotta lay in it. its a shame. but u must be a snake just like the fat fuck. thats probly why u keep blowing up these comments with ur bullshit. tryina make liza look bad wen u def know joe is the problem. haha ask any TS MEMBER. haha stop making excuses for joe. look at the FACTS homie.
@@Materialgirl_3 shut the fuck guyss point over all I big pun words in his mouth his money is his decision like I'm married to u and if I don't want to given u any I spent I all or u take me to care
@@jacobwilliams1319 No , you shut the fuck up . You must be used to being able to talk to women whatever way you want . I can only imagine what your mother taught you . You shut the fuck up .
@Sun Cease no u go back to school,joe is the boss...those royalty checks go to him before anybody else...that man has other people on the payroll to take care of,are u gonna keep cutting checks to a grown man or woman after they keep going broke and u got other people to feed? Lemmie answer dat for u,no the hell u wont!!!
Word, like goddamn he got his own family to feed.. Whered does it say he gotta take care of 2 families now?? Like yo Joe been rapping for 20 years!!!! That's HIS money. Just Caz Pun wasn't good with his money and blew it all and then his family blew the rest of his estate that ain't on Joe. Foh
@Sun Cease do ya some research my G. Royalties for the minimal body of work Pun has is %100 not enough to live off of, provide for an entire family, nor stay above water the rest of your life. The royalties in Puns case could maybe lease a Honda.. MAYBE
SINCE HE PASSED meaning from the Yeah Baby album and forward. U ain't heard no greatest hits or any project from BP. Like how Puff did the Biggie Duet album and stuff and Biggie been dead for years. Big Pun forever.
A good wife would tell her hubby to make out a will, don't splurge on all that shit, and get your weight down especially the condition Big Pun was in. It was only a matter of time.
a wife shouldn't have to tell a grown ass man not to splurge wen he has a family whose basic needs aren't being met. If as Joe claims, Pun bought 10 cars/houses/etc/the eating is an extension of that. Allegedly, Pun beat the shit out of his kids & wife on da regular:( (I hate saying this @ a man whose dead but even his real friends admit he was an abusive ass to his family) how does his wife keep telling him to stop eating without her kids having to keep watching him re-kick her ass? I'm neutral here--as a matter of fact--the only person I don't like/trust is Joe, who was & still is Pun's Manager/EP on all his shit...
Lizzie Ruffell Well when shes a housewife without a job with him being the breadwinner then she probably should have. When people are broke to making millions they wanna go and cop all the things they never had growing up or as an adult. Some people just lack common sense with money and need somebody to tell em or they learn the hard way. You saw Scott Storch, Dmx, Will Smith, Mc Hammer etc.
Lizzie Ruffell Even when Fat Joe gave her the full advance which was hundreds of thousands will only so far after being taxed 50%. Loud records the label Pun was signed to folded and is now SRC so I'm not sure if Puns records are still being pressed and sold through the new label. Last Act I know was signed was the white chick from Danity Kane. The video is is on here or online somewhere.
she was a battered wife. it's really sad, but she needs to get up and do something for herself. what I don't understand is why haven't fat Joe or DJ khaled put Chris rivers big pun's son on in the rap game? he can actually rap though. he was sleeping in shelters as well. they should've at least reached out to the kids. they were innocent in this matter.
I heard both sides of this story. Honestly, I think Pun's wife didn't like working and Fat Joe should reveal how much Pun made when he passed away. Every time Pun's music comes on, Pun's wife should get the royalties from any of Pun's records
The music business is a very precarious business. Just ask any artist who eventually “made it”. Even if you’re a great artist, the music business doesn’t care, for the money has to be split into so many different ways. Advertising, the producers , entertainment attorneys, musicians, radio etc etc. . By the time you get your cut, there may not be shit left.
I read what he said to Big Pun's wife in a magazine once, years back. All it amounted to then was something true. His exact words, as I remember them (and Pun had been gone about 2 years) was that she needs to have a plan for when the money runs out. That was truth. Why she wouldn't, amazes me. In fact, she should have had something going and insurance, too. He wasn't mean to her, it was just truth. Pun deserved more money, and that big hit of his "I'm Not a Player" or whatever was one of the best in all of hip hop. But people can't carry you forever so his wife should not be angry.
Just watched a Big Pun documentary on RUclips yesterday. Pun wasn’t an Angel, he did some foul shit to his wife, but she isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed either. I can totally see her waiting around for Joe to keep her paid. Joe seems very coherent and reasonable
I dont like fat joe but hes speaking some realness here... she should have invested that money like he said... she would have been living comfortably by now with her kids... ce la vie
Johan Liebert because liza did that to herself, you destroyed the legacy of the late big pun and fat joe disowned that bitch for good reason, because he was hurt by it. joe helped pun's family many times after pun died and she straight shitted on pun on that DVD, if pun was so abusive back then why couldn't she file a restraining order or have CPS take the kids away from their home, but nooooo she stayed with him, no sympathy for her for that and because of that joe may never help pun's family again because of liza rios.
Well, as far as all of this is concerned, Liza recently settled with Joe for supposedly 2 mill. If Joe was telling the truth, I doubt he's dropping anything close to that to settle with her.
I heard Liza talking while she said she got 150.000. From Joe with the help of Remy ma. plus she got some more money before and after she got that 150 grand. I even heard it when she was saying it. Now.....the problem is...#1 ..Pun only got one platinum Album. #2 joe don't wanna give more money. People say he should cos he kept all pun money. #3 she shouldn't have spent that money. She should have done something. Business or whatever. #4 She better FIND A F.... JOB !
Royalties? Lol. Thats laughable Pun was a fresh artist naturally he got jerked for his publishing thats why we even talkkng bout it. To his credit Nore doesnt have the publishing rights from his first solo an biggest album ever, either it happens. She needs to get her mind right an holler at them white boys like Steve Rifkin and Loud Records them the cats that really ate off Pun Joe got a finders fee an validity aa an natuonal artist that was priceless. Today joes a respected legend. But as far got rich off Pun albums , it wasn't Joe. Pick your battles.
look here ,I love my people to death but if one of they wife's speak on domestic abuse in the home that's a entire separate issue ,I don't think the video of pun smacking her with the gun will ever take away from the building blocks he established ,but if that woman wants to reach out about her abuse that's her right and freedom to do so .
Celebrities that come from nothing need to be required to take money management classes BEFORE they receive their first paychecks. Bc it’s insane how many of them make more than what us normal folks will make in our lifetimes and yet STILL end up broke 🤦🏾♀️
He supposedly gave her all that money several times, but when the judge during her lawsuit against him asked him to produce proof he had none. He was given 90 days to produce proof of these funds that had supposedly been given to Liza, but couldn't. Needless to say he lost the lawsuit. Stop lying Joe.
Joe & Pun been close as they were before Pun' s demise should know if Lisa is lousy on money or a cake head on investing or not. Money has rules; give it to a spender, it blows off, in a wise hands, it multiplies. Joe should have envisaged what tomorrow might ensue, make a proper reservation on the kids behalf if he truly love & cares for Pun. To me its the kids that matter most, its what Pun will truly wish. I know Pun - Joe been brothers isn't only on the screen, so Joe should look beyond that & settle on the kids' side. Joe may be right, but shouldn' t go deaf cos its no other than Pun.
Afi James Sir iam oblivious of any DVD made by Lisa, duo i will look around. Women will always be as they; reflexive. Lisa may have her grievances dating from the inception of this saga, I can sense that, protracted feud always seems hard to redress, especially when money gets involve. What a pity!
Afi James Children are always influenced seemingly by parentage and ambient whelms. The situation depends if Joe did maintain a long standing relationship with the kids, understanding will play a major role in this if not the kids will always misjudge his motive, Pa James.
Dj Stitches Waxwerkz you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about!!! Fat joe has fire ass tracks from the early 90s and he had big money before pun he was the poppi plug 🔌 here in ny so go do some research
If Pun indeed broke than he shouldn't have blown his millions. Maybe Liza blew it, who knows? Not bagging on Pun bc he was legend but he knew he was going to die young. Poor financial planning. Should have had millions in a will his kids could get when they turned 18.
but as far as joe taking care of pun's wife and kids, he's not mary poppins, she needs to do that on her own and not depend on anyone else, which i agree with joe on this.
Unless Big Pun made out a will before he died shes not owed anything by Fat Joe or anyone else. Shes a healthy adult. The problem is she may have a hard time getting work due to never having worked, never worked in years, or no skills overall so she gotta do something.
Look, I see many of you are talking about royalties. You can't be paid royalties if people aren't playing your records. For real, when was the last time any of you heard a Big Pun single on the radio? I am not being mean. Most of us haven't heard a Tupac or Aaliyah record played in a while, either. If the song is used in commercials or something, then yes. But music has to be used to get more money.
The only person responsible for her situation is Big Pun. He was irresponsible, and didn't have the foresight to put aside some money as a security for his wife and family. She also comes across as entitled. Expecting someone else to do what your husband didn't is ridiculous. Is she disabled?
I really don't blame joe for refusing to do anymore of pun's posthumous albums after endangered species, because it would get destroyed just like the late 2pac (post better days of course) and biggie after 1997.
Y’all in the comments section kill me where’s the receipts to confirm what he’s saying. No body knows exactly what went on there’s three sides to every story your side the other person’s side and the truth. So we can have our opinions but we never really truly know what went on.
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Once pun couldn’t even walk up the stairs it was time for life insurance/ preparing and planning for the inevitable sadly.
I know
Liza would have sold that insurance money 🤷♂️🤦♂️😂.
Fat Joe had one on him
No insurance company would give someone in that bad of shape alicy
Once Big Pun pistol whipped his wife on camera with a Mac 10 ...
They need to teach money management in schools.
Statements he couldn't provide to a judge, why he lost the royalties to Liza. And he couldn't pay the 2mil. He was found to have owed in court.
Some ppl don’t know how to use their head when it comes to money 💰💵
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I agree with the Beauty Shops idea Joe recommended
liza get a job.....big joe is right i believe him
Damn Joe has decent point, she wanna say "take care of me because of my husband's name, but i wanna say negative shit about my dead husband on dvd"
His music still alive in memorys still inspiring. R i p big pun.
Liza won her case and was awarded $2.3 million, Pun's estate was being robbed and Joe lied about how much money she was given..
joe makes a point, people are not gonna take of you for the rest of your life, because your big pun's widow.
@@jmjfanss Joe is a lying ass thief, that's why she won in court.
@@jmjfanss look it up, she won her case and was awarded $2.3 million, Joe and Jelly Bean Benitez are lying ass crooks...
@@uptownsamcv i don't care.
@@truthteller5521 cuban link is that you?
Joe makes sense...as soon as Pun died it was crunch time for his wife...she should have liquidated all assets and purchased a manageable home and car for her and the kids, anything left over after that should have been used towards setting up a career for herself. I do believe that a portion of all royalties owed to Pun after his death should have went into an account for his children though.
but she doesn't care.
What Royalties? Pun was a recording artist on a label. prolly still hasn’t recouped from his first album.
I feel Fat Joe is and always have been jealous of his brother. Fat Joe blew up after his brothers death. No coincidence to me
@@deniseburt1730 Nonsense. Joe had 3 albums out before Pun dropped his. And he was the one that made Pun.
That was Joe's job...
He has helped her she had around a million bucks n blew it that's on her
Yeah but the thing is fat Joe owns big puns Masters that's a check every week for life that's going in his pocket instead of puns family that's the part he ain't telling
@@martafigueroa1804 That's not how it works....
@@NoXiousBLD so how does it work
pun should've had a big life insurance policy, #2 it's no ones responsibility to support you
plus, pun should have left a living will.
Afi James absolutely
Afi James After years of a tumultuous legal battle, Fat Joe and Big Pun’s widow, Liza Rios, have finally settled out of court in her breach of contract case, Bossip reports.
The back and forth began in 2014, when Rios filed a lawsuit against Fat Joe, seeking more than $1 million. Rios claimed she’d struck a deal with Fat Joe to split money made by Big Pun after his untimely death in February 2000, but hadn’t received any money from Joe since 2005. Fat Joe and his co-defendant, music publisher John “Jellybean” Benitez of Jelly’s Jams struck a deal with Rios to keep the case from going to trial.
On Wednesday morning (June 22), a deal was announced during a status hearing at Manhattan Federal Court. Neither Fat Joe or Benitez were present, though Fat Joe’s lawyer, Benjamin Stranzl declared to the judge that the parties involved had settled. Terms of the settlement remain confidential but according to reports, it was likely significant-a little over $2 million, in fact.
“Based on information provided and my professional industry knowledge, I have determined that Big Pun has been underpaid by at least $2,076,093,” Ali Adawiya, who testified on behalf of Rios in the lawsuit, wrote, according to documents obtained by Bossip in March 2016.
Last year, Rios and her attorney discussed the then pending lawsuit with AllHipHop.com, expressing their disappointment in Fat Joe’s actions, especially since Pun and Joe were so close.
“He loved Joe and the squad,” Rios said during the interview. “That was his heart. So for him to give so much to them, and give so much to Terror Squad, and make Terror Squad what it was, because he made it what it was…for them to turn their backs on his family, his kids… he’d be heartbroken.”
Rios’ lawyer, Lita Rosario, told Bossip she was pleased with the settlement.
“We think it was fair, and we’re pleased,” she said.
Fat Joe’s lawyers, Stranzl and John Cain refused to comment.
Big Pun, who battled constantly with his weight, was 700 pounds when he died at age 28 of a heart attack.
Read More: Fat Joe Finally Settles Lawsuit with Big Pun's Widow | theboombox.com/fat-joe-finally-settles-lawsuit-with-big-puns-widow/?trackback=tsmclip
CB in the bible daily damn right
CB in the bible daily true
He’s right 👀 he doesn’t have to keep supporting her she needs to get a job
Thank you, joe has his own family to take care off.
He doesn't need to support her but he does need to stop lying. Watch this ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
@@jmjfanss you do know Joe been robbed her for a decade and a half right? Watch this ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
She doesn't need a job now Joe, the judge awarded her the Masters.
joe did it for pun's kids, not her.
What is it worth?
This was 13 years ago 😂
I think Fat Joe makes sense.
it makes sense for sure..
jason trar I Don't blame joe for refusing to do anymore of pun's posthumous albums for good reason.
Right, and he offers some well meant, righteous advice.
@@williemuniz8926 what?
Tracey Cabrera I bet he ain't making his wife work.
He made some valid points . .. he was willing to help out in the beginning . Even gave her ideas to open beauty salons . Very smart.. but no disrespect she sounds lazy.
Just his jewelry could have open up at least one business. She is sad.
He be capping though watch this ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
Typical. Puerto Ricans. A lower version of "Afro-Americans".
@@The667tony Puerto Ricans 🇵🇷 are Americans 🇺🇸🇵🇷 and we have Afro-Boricuas 🇵🇷as well starting with Roberto Clemente, Alpo Martinez, LaLa Anthony and Megan Good. Boricuas 🇵🇷 are not lower than any other minorities we in the same boat or the once like J-Lo, Ricky Martin, Marc Anthony and Lin Manuel Miranda are in a fancier boat due to AmeriKKKa 🤔
@@BoricuaNyc pride goes before a fall.
Sounds like she just didn't know how to manage any of the money he claims to have given her. She can't expect to keep living off people or Puns memory he's been gone for a very long time. It's called a job she should get one and stop standing with her hand out in the air.
BIG PUNS ROYALTIES ARE OWED TO HIS FAMILY REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY MANAGE IT...PERIOD!!!
+Paul M I don't give, you spend it unwisely, that's your Damn fault, not joe, you.
Fat Joe is this U+
thats so true she needs to kick rocks
Hey Leticia
Terror squad eee yay :)
Pun made millions doesn't mean he saw any of that money
starrdogchamp1 exactly most artists get a very small percentage of what they make of they don't do proper paperwork
Why he didn't see it ?
It wouldn't have mattered, Pun always lived beyond his means, he was awarded a load of money on a settlement check (before rap), long story short it's how he gained weight
Back then they got big advances I'm pretty sure he saw a few mil at one point
starrdogchamp1 ... yup
If Liza had invested that money in hair and nail salons she would be financially set to this day. I take my mother to get her hair and nails done every couple of weeks and see nothing but Black and Puerto Rican women in there spending all kinds of money to keep shit together.
Karim Bennett lol keep Shit together lol
Karim Bennett preach it
Invest
Fake hair hat's cost a mint .
150k to pay off mortgage in NY and open a hair saloon? LOOOOOL - fat joe settled with her after this interview for 2 million $ - which he would have never done, if he did not owe her. he forced her to sell the house and into having to get social housing by not paying her what was legally hers earlier. yes his music and big puns is / was nice, but that does mean everything this dude does is legit.
Fat Joe seems like a reasonable guy, I've heard him in other interviews, not cocky, not disrespectful - just speaks the truth!
You said he speaks the truth? I don't know about that 😂 because look at this ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
He don’t speak the truth all the time man
Foh he down playing the abuse talking about he didn’t see it🤡
He's definitely cocky and disrespectful but he can't hold her hand forever just cuz she was married to big pun, great as he was.
LIZA WAS ASKING ABOUT THE MONEY OWNED TO PUN AND JOE WOULD NOT TELL HER YOU SLOW ASS MOTHERFUCKER
I believe this man 100% about the royalties. Plus when he said he want the kids in his that was a good gesture and it sounded genuine
but sadly that bitch liza refused to let joe see them, can't stand her.
afi james lmao you act like joe is their step dad or some shit. he dont get no visitation rights. haha he robbed puns family. joes been fallin off since pun died. hes been trying to hang on to that thread. black balled remy and he fell off so much he had no choice but to get her back. an even then his an remys album flopped. haha karma is a bitch. he fucked with puns money now his shit is slowly but surely going to shit. liza aint no bitch tho she was just fighting for what was rightfully Puns. which goes to her an the 3 kids, idk how u can still talk shit bout her but suck joes dick after you clearly saw that he did owe pun and was holding the money and refusing to give it to them. you can continue to suck his dick but the facts stand. hes a snake and fucked up everything he had going for himself. just imagine if he didnt fuck over puns wife an cuban an everyone else from the original TS he would have it made. but he made his bed so now he gotta lay in it. its a shame. but u must be a snake just like the fat fuck. thats probly why u keep blowing up these comments with ur bullshit. tryina make liza look bad wen u def know joe is the problem. haha ask any TS MEMBER. haha stop making excuses for joe. look at the FACTS homie.
That's not his job to take care of that broad. smgdh.
liza needs to get a job like everybody else and let the late big pun rest in peace.
ChachiGivesZeroFucks well said
Sun Cease I agree
@@Materialgirl_3 shut the fuck guyss point over all I big pun words in his mouth his money is his decision like I'm married to u and if I don't want to given u any I spent I all or u take me to care
@@jacobwilliams1319 No , you shut the fuck up . You must be used to being able to talk to women whatever way you want . I can only imagine what your mother taught you . You shut the fuck up .
Fat Joe is very honest and insightful. I would love to see the documentary on Big Pun.
He's not honest. Here's proof ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
She been receiving charity for 15 years. It's time for her to move on.
Michelle: you the type that waits for the govt to give u hand outs if i were u i would shut up
Facts
@Sun Cease no u go back to school,joe is the boss...those royalty checks go to him before anybody else...that man has other people on the payroll to take care of,are u gonna keep cutting checks to a grown man or woman after they keep going broke and u got other people to feed? Lemmie answer dat for u,no the hell u wont!!!
Word, like goddamn he got his own family to feed.. Whered does it say he gotta take care of 2 families now?? Like yo Joe been rapping for 20 years!!!! That's HIS money. Just Caz Pun wasn't good with his money and blew it all and then his family blew the rest of his estate that ain't on Joe. Foh
@Sun Cease do ya some research my G. Royalties for the minimal body of work Pun has is %100 not enough to live off of, provide for an entire family, nor stay above water the rest of your life. The royalties in Puns case could maybe lease a Honda.. MAYBE
So many people want to play the victim but refuse to help themselves.
Yep.
Liza Rios, McDonalds is hiring every day of the week.😂😂😂
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He had me until the last part where he said he never made a dollar off of Puns name when he passed
Bullshit big pun made fat joe
He probably meant as far as royalties go. Every cent Endangered Species made, went to Pun's fam
SINCE HE PASSED meaning from the Yeah Baby album and forward. U ain't heard no greatest hits or any project from BP. Like how Puff did the Biggie Duet album and stuff and Biggie been dead for years. Big Pun forever.
@@joejones5187 their snakes homie
@@joejones5187 fat joe did the right thing to say no more the late big pun projects.
I believe Fat Joe here some people just don't know how to budget right.
and he got sick and tired of it, let big pun rest in peace.
Not even. Watch what joe did. It was grimey.
ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
A good wife would tell her hubby to make out a will, don't splurge on all that shit, and get your weight down especially the condition Big Pun was in. It was only a matter of time.
that's right.
a wife shouldn't have to tell a grown ass man not to splurge wen he has a family whose basic needs aren't being met. If as Joe claims, Pun bought 10 cars/houses/etc/the eating is an extension of that. Allegedly, Pun beat the shit out of his kids & wife on da regular:( (I hate saying this @ a man whose dead but even his real friends admit he was an abusive ass to his family) how does his wife keep telling him to stop eating without her kids having to keep watching him re-kick her ass? I'm neutral here--as a matter of fact--the only person I don't like/trust is Joe, who was & still is Pun's Manager/EP on all his shit...
Lizzie Ruffell
Well when shes a housewife without a job with him being the breadwinner then she probably should have. When people are broke to making millions they wanna go and cop all the things they never had growing up or as an adult. Some people just lack common sense with money and need somebody to tell em or they learn the hard way. You saw Scott Storch, Dmx, Will Smith, Mc Hammer etc.
Lizzie Ruffell
Even when Fat Joe gave her the full advance which was hundreds of thousands will only so far after being taxed 50%. Loud records the label Pun was signed to folded and is now SRC so I'm not sure if Puns records are still being pressed and sold through the new label. Last Act I know was signed was the white chick from Danity Kane. The video is is on here or online somewhere.
she was a battered wife. it's really sad, but she needs to get up and do something for herself. what I don't understand is why haven't fat Joe or DJ khaled put Chris rivers big pun's son on in the rap game? he can actually rap though. he was sleeping in shelters as well. they should've at least reached out to the kids. they were innocent in this matter.
I miss Pun yo. Pun was the most lyrical Purto Rican rapper. I have all Puns joints. Still rocking it today. R.I.P BIG PUN
Cuban? How you a fan?
@@Alexxfco ment Puerto Rican homie.. I don't even know why I put Cuban LOL.. San Juan I think it is
@@WaldoBMC3 cuban link though.
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cmon, man...have you ever heard pun before?
That too! But i'm sure Pun wasn't expected to die so young and most young people don't think about writing wills at a young age.
She Big Pun's wife...she steady flossin!!
He's absolutely right.
She needs to get job!!
And he needs to stop lying! Watch! ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
I heard both sides of this story. Honestly, I think Pun's wife didn't like working and Fat Joe should reveal how much Pun made when he passed away. Every time Pun's music comes on, Pun's wife should get the royalties from any of Pun's records
Ain't nobody playing his music tho. TF
@@friezasama8860 Lol🤦🤦🤦
Not if he didn't own his publishing.
@@SoulSearch11110 facts
@@friezasama8860 his music was featured in movies, tv shows, commercials and video games. According to the courts pun was owed over 2 mil.
The music business is a very precarious business. Just ask any artist who eventually “made it”. Even if you’re a great artist, the music business doesn’t care, for the money has to be split into so many different ways. Advertising, the producers , entertainment attorneys, musicians, radio etc etc. . By the time you get your cut, there may not be shit left.
Like TLC - everybody was paid but then and they had sold out tours merch and everything
I read what he said to Big Pun's wife in a magazine once, years back. All it amounted to then was something true. His exact words, as I remember them (and Pun had been gone about 2 years) was that she needs to have a plan for when the money runs out. That was truth. Why she wouldn't, amazes me. In fact, she should have had something going and insurance, too. He wasn't mean to her, it was just truth. Pun deserved more money, and that big hit of his "I'm Not a Player" or whatever was one of the best in all of hip hop. But people can't carry you forever so his wife should not be angry.
Joe is right! Work like everyone else
Pun can't ride 10 motorcycles unless they all tied together
HA! Sorry but thats FUNNY as hell.
Just watched a Big Pun documentary on RUclips yesterday. Pun wasn’t an Angel, he did some foul shit to his wife, but she isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed either. I can totally see her waiting around for Joe to keep her paid. Joe seems very coherent and reasonable
joe makes a point.
I dont like fat joe but hes speaking some realness here... she should have invested that money like he said... she would have been living comfortably by now with her kids... ce la vie
she was too lazy
Are you shaved?
Johan Liebert because liza did that to herself, you destroyed the legacy of the late big pun and fat joe disowned that bitch for good reason, because he was hurt by it.
joe helped pun's family many times after pun died and she straight shitted on pun on that DVD, if pun was so abusive back then why couldn't she file a restraining order or have CPS take the kids away from their home, but nooooo she stayed with him, no sympathy for her for that and because of that joe may never help pun's family again because of liza rios.
bah pueh!
@@chichigettheyayo7897 Pretty much. That is what it all boils down to.
If I was Fat Joe I would at least make sure Puns kids are good even if allegedly his widow doesn't want to work anymore but that's just me
Exactly
I'm with you on this brother
Not really considering the fact Pun’s kids are adults now and they seem to be on their own.
The youngest one Chris Rivers is quite a fire rapper....
The problem is Joe be cappin. Watch ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
Don't let this lady bring your spirit down
I Would Never Expect Anyone To Take Care Of My Daughters If I Passed God Forbid. So I Strongly Agree With Joe
OG Joe 👍🏽
RIP the punisher one of the best ever
i got three words for liza GET A JOB
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Well, as far as all of this is concerned, Liza recently settled with Joe for supposedly 2 mill. If Joe was telling the truth, I doubt he's dropping anything close to that to settle with her.
He been lying for years watch ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
Great interview, much respect to Joe!
I can't respect him after this ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
I heard Liza talking while she said she got 150.000. From Joe with the help of Remy ma. plus she got some more money before and after she got that 150 grand. I even heard it when she was saying it. Now.....the problem is...#1 ..Pun only got one platinum Album. #2 joe don't wanna give more money. People say he should cos he kept all pun money. #3 she shouldn't have spent that money. She should have done something. Business or whatever. #4 She better FIND A F.... JOB !
TheWillog lol at you thinkin puns sales are enough to live on
hahaha thats true @@sbrooks904
Fat Joe handed that problem with Liza Rios like a men.
Cell Phone she gonna be broke in a few years again
Actually both of his albums went platinum and secondly as his wife she should be getting all the royalties from when his Shit is played on the radio
Bullshit
+Nick La Vrar and waste them all again, not this time, she brought this on her damn self.
1 platinum album
Royalties? Lol. Thats laughable Pun was a fresh artist naturally he got jerked for his publishing thats why we even talkkng bout it. To his credit Nore doesnt have the publishing rights from his first solo an biggest album ever, either it happens. She needs to get her mind right an holler at them white boys like Steve Rifkin and Loud Records them the cats that really ate off Pun Joe got a finders fee an validity aa an natuonal artist that was priceless. Today joes a respected legend. But as far got rich off Pun albums , it wasn't Joe. Pick your battles.
When he died he was in debt and she tarnished his name
look here ,I love my people to death but if one of they wife's speak on domestic abuse in the home that's a entire separate issue ,I don't think the video of pun smacking her with the gun will ever take away from the building blocks he established ,but if that woman wants to reach out about her abuse that's her right and freedom to do so .
Joe tells it like it is.
Celebrities that come from nothing need to be required to take money management classes BEFORE they receive their first paychecks. Bc it’s insane how many of them make more than what us normal folks will make in our lifetimes and yet STILL end up broke 🤦🏾♀️
yep.
He supposedly gave her all that money several times, but when the judge during her lawsuit against him asked him to produce proof he had none. He was given 90 days to produce proof of these funds that had supposedly been given to Liza, but couldn't. Needless to say he lost the lawsuit. Stop lying Joe.
Exactly. He’s just out here lying.
And if he’s still making money off pun today, then she should be entitled to some of it. Like any royalties etc.
Joe & Pun been close as they were before Pun' s demise should know if Lisa is lousy on money or a cake head on investing or not. Money has rules; give it to a spender, it blows off, in a wise hands, it multiplies. Joe should have envisaged what tomorrow might ensue, make a proper reservation on the kids behalf if he truly love & cares for Pun. To me its the kids that matter most, its what Pun will truly wish. I know Pun - Joe been brothers isn't only on the screen, so Joe should look beyond that & settle on the kids' side. Joe may be right, but shouldn' t go deaf cos its no other than Pun.
But after that DVD that liza did, I Don't think it's gonna happen.
Afi James Sir iam oblivious of any DVD made by Lisa, duo i will look around. Women will always be as they; reflexive. Lisa may have her grievances dating from the inception of this saga, I can sense that, protracted feud always seems hard to redress, especially when money gets involve. What a pity!
Pun's kids should decide for themselves.
Afi James Children are always influenced seemingly by parentage and ambient whelms. The situation depends if Joe did maintain a long standing relationship with the kids, understanding will play a major role in this if not the kids will always misjudge his motive, Pa James.
Its sad that she had to take this dude to court to get what was due to Big Pun.
Exactly! Everyone is up in the comments defending Joe, not knowing what he did. Here's the proof. ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
Fat joe had money in the streets before pun started rapping he put pun on
Dequan Parker watch puns documentary idiot.
Without pun fat is wack he probably stole puns rhyme book cause he was out for years without a hit then pun dies and now Joe's lyrical 😄
Dj Stitches Waxwerkz you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about!!! Fat joe has fire ass tracks from the early 90s and he had big money before pun he was the poppi plug 🔌 here in ny so go do some research
@@christopheryoung8540 no radio hits til pun and im from ny been spinning for years and as always its opinions
@@MixinInActionRadio you right, Joey was underground... till pun's death. nothing but facts.
Damn...he made a good point...
@jmjfanss yea man, and thanks 4 the invite.
respect
Fat Joe does make sense. 💪🏽
and i agree with him.
East coast 🤡
@@dabking3611 Dab King? 😂 yea I can tell you wack.
@@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS LMAO 🤣 EAST COAST 🤡 DEFENDING FAT F JOE 😂 MAKES SENSE
joe speaking truth!!
The word of the day is JOB, J.O.B lol from Friday. Lazy Rios get a job.
It's Big PUN Fault for NOT GAF ABOUT his WIFE & KIDS!!
No, it's her fault for staying with him.
If Pun indeed broke than he shouldn't have blown his millions. Maybe Liza blew it, who knows? Not bagging on Pun bc he was legend but he knew he was going to die young. Poor financial planning. Should have had millions in a will his kids could get when they turned 18.
that's right
They need to just let the big pun legacy rest in peace, I'm tired of it.
You too right
Word!
Don’t let fat Joe fool yall…
Bullshit and you know it, he helped pun's family for years, but that bitch liza ruined that chance.
@@jmjfanss I don’t know what you smoking but it’s been proven in court….
That's funny him saying her living off of his name but pun is the only reason he got a name it's crazy he named his album loyalty
Damn shit turned out well for puns wife after all she got the whole catalog and royalties
but as far as joe taking care of pun's wife and kids, he's not mary poppins, she needs to do that on her own and not depend on anyone else, which i agree with joe on this.
@@jmjfanssEven Mary Poppins got the children to work. She wasn’t just a babysitter, she was also a teacher
I agree with him 100%.
Unless Big Pun made out a will before he died shes not owed anything by Fat Joe or anyone else. Shes a healthy adult. The problem is she may have a hard time getting work due to never having worked, never worked in years, or no skills overall so she gotta do something.
Apparently his publishing and royalties goes to Miss Jones.
Liza needs to get an education!
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Thanks
I'm rolling, and cracking up with your comment girl.
@Darealpapac she didn't win. They settled and apparently she broke even after paying her lawyers. She needs a job
Wow!
If I was fat joe I'd have Puns kids taken care of for life. There is no fat joe without Pun.
I don't think so.
Exactly
No disrespect to anyone but that's not joes responsibility.
Alot of respect to Fat Joe for this interview. Dude is a smart guy. No matter how much you hate him.
He's a 🤡 cut it out
Joe don't swear stuff keep going strong.
Look, I see many of you are talking about royalties. You can't be paid royalties if people aren't playing your records. For real, when was the last time any of you heard a Big Pun single on the radio? I am not being mean. Most of us haven't heard a Tupac or Aaliyah record played in a while, either. If the song is used in commercials or something, then yes. But music has to be used to get more money.
The only person responsible for her situation is Big Pun.
He was irresponsible, and didn't have the foresight to put aside some money as a security for his wife and family. She also comes across as entitled.
Expecting someone else to do what your husband didn't is ridiculous. Is she disabled?
👏👏👏👍
He probably did not expect to die so that is why he didn't save money.
Nah because Joe lied. ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
Real talk👊
Beautiful
Joe ain't the goverment big pun just had one successful album before he died royalties ain't shit now
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I really don't blame joe for refusing to do anymore of pun's posthumous albums after endangered species, because it would get destroyed just like the late 2pac (post better days of course) and biggie after 1997.
the word for the day is Jay Oh Bee! JoB jajajajajaja
You to rite crack literly facts
So explain to me how that is Joe problem???
It is because of this ruclips.net/video/tNGi0Qgj1pI/видео.html
You’ve got to be joking me. Terror squad. Hello.
Fat Joe hold it Real 💯
Real talk
She put her work in pun just didn't handle is business before he died.
Y’all in the comments section kill me where’s the receipts to confirm what he’s saying. No body knows exactly what went on there’s three sides to every story your side the other person’s side and the truth. So we can have our opinions but we never really truly know what went on.
thing is though Liza has interviews where she states that she would never work a 9 to 5 job so I believe Joe and take his side on this issue
"Afi James" is Fat Joe
+DAPRODUCK FUCK YOU!
Sorry Joe, but you're all over these videos about homegirl. You got some expanding to do.
He saiiiid what he saiiiid!
LIZA RIOS GET A DAMN JOB WOMAN!!!!!!
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@rochroch2012
Big pun was an outrageous spender, even if joe continues to pun's royalty checks to pun's family, they would spend it outrageously.
Word up
Facts!!!
Doesn't she get royalties ?
He kept it real but she tried to be slick ...