Politics of Scandal: Christine Keeler Death of a 60s Icon
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Please join me in this video, Political Scandal: Christine Keeler Death of a 60s Icon.
Christine Margaret Keeler (born 22 February 1942 and died 4 December 2017) was a former model and showgirl.
Her meeting with society osteopath Stephen Ward at Murray's Cabaret Club in London drew her into fashionable circles.
During the height of the Cold War, Christine Keeler had intimate relationships with both a married government minister, John Profumo, and a Soviet diplomat.
A shooting between two of her other lovers prompted the press to look into her, revealing that her affairs could endanger national security.
Profumo denied any wrongdoing in the House of Commons but later admitted that he had lied. This incident became known as the Profumo affair, it would wreck many lives - both personal and professional, it would bring down Harold Macmillan's Conservative government in 1963, and one of the leading protagonists - Stephen Ward would by his own hand as a result.
Who was Christine Keeler? and what happened to her? Join me for a walk around Wraysbury as we learn about Christine Keeler's childhood and her sad death at the age of 75.
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Thanks for this video really enjoyed listening. I will never forget when Sue Lawley interviewed Christine years after the scandal, the way how she spoke to Christine, the kind of questions she asked, you could clearly tell she looked down on her almost with distain. But Christine was kind and classy throughout which highlighted to me the kind of person Christine was.
I remember that interview you’ve mentioned! Christine often felt out of her depth - I think Mandy really enjoyed it all but Christine struggled - her autobiography is so worth reading! 🌹 thank you so much for watching xxxx
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre I remember the interview made me cringe Sue Lawley was so rude what right did she have to look down on anyone. RIP Christine.
Absolutely agree! ❤️🌹
Thankyou for sharing I found it very interesting, I watched a film about her , she was a strong woman and I iked her. 🌹
I recall that interview; Sue Lawley treated Christine with great condescension; she was utterly alien to Christine's world. Christine was a butterfly broken on the wheels of the establishment. By stark contrast this video is narrated with great compassion and empathy. Robin Witting
Beautifully handled. Thank you. An ordinary girl, caught-up in extra-ordinary events. Once upon a time, Government Ministers were granted an unearned amount of respect. Nowadays, this would not be scandalous. It would be Tuesday. Complete respect to Christine. She handled herself with dignity, while the elite scrambled to disassociate themselves.
Amazing how it's still interesting nearly 60 years later x
I find it intriguing and fascinating! Definitely interesting ❤️❤️❤️
🎬🎥📽 I thought Christine Keeler was one of the most Beautiful woman from the 60s .l never knew she had a baby who sadly passed away this most have been so incredibly hard for her. I dont think she should have ever have gone to prison. Christine will always be remmberd in the iconic photo where she was sat on the chair backwards .So many celebrities have copied this pose of her But she was the first and the best. She was so Classy and stylish a true icon from the 60s. Am so happy she had a family 2 boys to take care of her not that she needed any help Christine could take care of herself am sure. Rip Beautiful Angel XX💖🙏💖XX Thank you for another great vlog xx
Thank you Sharon! I love 60s London culture - and Christine was such a big part of that! She was very beautiful and stylish and she is iconic - as you say that chair pose has been copied by celebs and models countless times! The whole Profumo affair is still so intriguing! Such an interesting time! ❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Christine was never a BEAUTIFUL woman. I felt sorry for her though.
@@valeriedavidson2785 I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say - I think she had the most amazing bone structure and looked classically beautiful but I know not everyone will think that ❤
When all this happened I was in school and read it ,not understanding.
Anyway R.I.P. Christine Keeler, Prayers for you.
I met Christine Keeler in the mid 90s. She was an acquaintance of my ex-boyfriend. She was very down to earth, ordinary and relaxed. I was young and largely unaware of her infamous past.
That’s amazing! I think she would have been so interesting to sit down and have a chat with over coffee! ❤️❤️❤️
Wow
Nice I’m related to her
@@NathanzerobuildHow, please ?
Very interesting. Great anecdote about the non-degradable coffin floating away. I only knew the story from the 1989 movie starring Joanne Whalley.
Thank you! Oh I loved that movie!!!
Thank you for this interesting reel, a classic British scandal, watched the excellent drama on tv a couple of years ago and my interest was piqued, great stuff. 👏🏼
I loved the TV drama too - for my birthday last year I wanted to hire Cliveden's Spring Cottage - where Stephen Ward stayed - but it was just a little out of my price range 😂😂😂
Thank you for an excellent and sensitive treatment of Christine Keeler. It showed the social side of the early 60s in which her adult life was beginning. Her life after "Profumo" was a struggle perpetuated by The Establishment to launder its own sanctimony and obscure its embarrassment. Her son's words set the record straight for us.
Thank you so much! The thing that always makes me laugh about the ‘swinging sixties’ is that my mum told me that she and her friend went to look for it in the Kings Road she must have been about 16 or 17 - and she said they couldn’t find it 🤣 obviously weren’t looking hard enough! But yes on a serious note - I totally agree re post Profumo 110% x
Where was I? In the military very close to London..talking to a friend who laughed about going to bed with this lady who was in all these gossip newspaper...I thought at the time he just spreading bull stuff..!well the truth did come forth ...
I remember the 60’s I think I was about 13 when the scandal erupted and I do remember it very well though I didn’t realise the disastrous effects it had on the government ministers.
I was born in 1965, but while growing up in the 70s, I soaked up music & film & news from the 60s. I think that's just the way life goes. This was a fascinating video and I watched it three times.
Thank you so much!!! Yes I was the same - I love the 40s through to the 70s an particularly love the 60s! ❤️
Really enjoyed this. Thank you. RIP Christine.
My pleasure - thank you so much for watching!
Wow! Now you are brining back a lot of memories. On the day this scandal broke in Australia; I was at a Railway Station named EDITHVALE, in Victoria, (on the Frankston Line) which was the railway station I was waiting for a train at on that Sunday morning. to take me home. I was 17 years old then; going on 18 years and my mind was on obtaining my Drivers' Licence in June 1964. I can remember feeling dreadfully sorry for Profumo's wife Valerie. I also remember the suicide of Stephen Ward. From memory; all this hanky panky took place at Cliveden - Correct me if I am wrong, and wasn't Cliveden the former home of Lord & Lady Astor?
You’re not wrong! Yep Cliveden House! Apparently you can rent it out now and stay in Stephen Wards cottage - for the small price if an arm and a leg 🤭 I have to be honest I’d absolutely love to!!! It was a fascinating event - and like all these kinds of events the whole truth still hasn’t become clear! It’s intriguing! 🤔❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Spot on BBB. One has to also feel sorry for poor Christine. Not much guidance there from her biological parents. Stephen Ward and his clique were rakes., The biggest mistake John Profumo made was to get involved with WARD, and Eugene Ivanov. who was purported to be a Soviet KGB agent under cover as a "DIPLOMAT" Mandy Rice Davis was another story. Never liked her and it would not surprise me if she was the "Ring Leader". Didn't she marry some Israeli Chappie and open a night club in Tel Aviv? Is Mandy still alive?
Love the thought of her passing the Houses of Parliament!
It’s a brilliant thought isn’t it! Lol I think she had the courage to do it too 🤣
Thank you 4 this update on Christine Keeler. So interesting.
My pleasure, I'm so glad you enjoyed it - thank you for your lovely comment xxxx
Born in 1958, I was about five at this time. The Profumo affair was the sort of scandal that wasn’t suitable for a child’s ears but nevertheless I was vaguely aware of it. Certainly its ramifications rumbled on for years and came to define the early sixties and a societal change. I still chuckle at Mandy Rice-Davies retort of “well he would, wouldn’t he”.
🤭 Mandy was brilliant - I think Christine took it much more to heart while Mandy made the most of it all and embraced the notoriety! 🤭
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre yeah you see It in the movie. She started as the naive one but ended up embracing all she did with no shame❤
@@jn3rd563 started at 16 kept women. men giving her bord food money cars for Favours she did a bit of modeling, an icon i think not then the scandal at 20. years old
Born in 57. Remember my parents being so judgmental. So glad that times have changed. I feel sorry for Ward as he was trying to play ‘spy’ with the big boys. Backfired. He was definitely used as a scapegoat for the Conservative Party. RIP.
Another excellent thought provoking content. Had no idea Christine had passed as I no longer reside in the UK. However the movie scandal was excellent starring Joanne whalley and John Hurt.
Thank you so much! Yes! Scandal was such a good film I do agree! ❤️
The story of Christine Keeler, and the Profumo Affair has always fascinated me. I saw the film 🎥 “Scandal” and the recent television 📺 series. I just love the 1960s nostalgia of it all. John Major read the secret documents when he was Prime Minister, and decided that they were still too sensitive to be made public!! I was born in 1966, so I don’t really remember the 1960s. Whenever I hear music from the late 60s, I always find it so evocative. There must be a hippie in me ha! ha! Thank you again for another interesting video 📹 When you do a tribute to Mandy Rice Davies, make sure you quote her other immortal line: “My whole life has been one long slow slide into respectability!”... or words to that affect. 😃 Big hugs to Timmy🐶
🤣🤣🤣 I LOVE Mandy! She was equally as fascinating as Christine! I am guessing Prince Philip gets a mention in those documents - I wouldn’t be surprised - I would truly love to get my beady eyes on them!!!! I’m the same as you with Sixties music too! It’s hard to beat!
Timmy has been flat out on the cold floor today 🤣 keeping cool - we’ve not walked the boys during the day all week - they’ve only been out in the evenings when it’s a little cooler - I’m not going to be whinging about the rain when it arrives! Xxxx
You can bet your bottom dollar that ‘still too sensitive information’ will probably mean someone in the Royal family was involved !!
I was only six at the time but remember reading about the affairs later and seeing the film scandal yet another mixed up attractive woman who could have done better a sad life really rest in peace ♥️
I agree! It’s so sad - she had so much going for her but got sucked in to a difficult lifestyle and situation - she was incredibly young when she met Stephen Ward x
Thank you very much
Never tire of hearing about Christine Keeler and associates.
They were all such interesting characters - in a 60s glamour lifestyle - although of course not all of them started life with glamour! Peter Rachman is surprisingly fascinating too!
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Yep that's very true.
Thanks once again and looking forward to your next upload
@@djpriddin6211 My pleasure! Thank you for your comment - it’s very appreciated!
I was 13 when this was in the news, found this very interesting ,I like the thought of her ashes floating by the houses of parliament , thankyou
@@ireneherdman2587 yes! I loved that thought too - quite relevant today as well! 🤭
That beautiful photo of Christine on the chair. The chair itself was saved and on display in the V&A Museum along side the Original Print of the photo.
It's a stunning photo and when I worked as a photographer I would often be requested to replicate that shot! ❤
Loved your video and narration
I was a young 11 year old girl living with my Grandparents in Newcastle upon Tyne
They always got the racy newspapers and as a young girl the stories and photos were all over the pages of The News of the World!
I sure grew up in an exciting time
I love the image of Christine sailing down the river
Thank you again
Happy New Year ❤️🇺🇸
Thank you for your kind words! It's heartwarming to hear about your personal connection to that era. It must have been quite a unique experience growing up with the vibrant stories and photos in The News of the World. The image of Christine sailing down the river does evoke a sense of nostalgia and intrigue and I love that too! Wishing you a Happy New Year filled with joy and wonderful memories! ❤️🎉
There were some similarities between CK and my own childhood. I can understand how she sought a different life. I've always felt Mandy Rice.. was jealous of her. In many photos MRD looks cold and calculating. When I was 14 the progressive female drama teacher at my school picked me out to perform a solo somewhat risque dance routine...using the famous chair pose of Christine. The Headmaster refused permission for the performance, which was a shame as we'd put a lot of time and thought into it. Thank you for another well put together presentation.
The Profumo affair for me is always one of those things Ive heard of but knew nothing about really. Thank you for enlightening us and teaching us, not just about Christine as a part of the Profumo scandal, but also remembering her as a lady in her own right with her own backstory. x
My pleasure!!! It’s an time in history I absolutely love - the clothes especially! I think also it was such a different time socially - I couldn’t imagine the adventure and determination she had to move to London and work in a Club like Murray’s - especially Mandy -unlike Christine she came from a very comfortable background she even had her own pony! And she headed off to London on her own at 16! Just amazes me!
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Swinging 60's London,who wouldn't?
It seems like a big adventure to me - especially at sixteen an in your own! ❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre I'm there!
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I was19 and working in London in the summer of 1963. I remember the electric atmosphere and how there were more revelations day after day. I think attitudes towards authority, government, etc. underwent a real change at that time.
I agree! It was all such a big shock back then - by todays standards it seems pretty tame! I do find it completely fascinating - and Im astounded when I consider the ages of both Christine and Mandy! They were so incredibly young.
Love all the way you tell us all about the persons life it's so riviting
Thank you so much - I find their lives so interesting! ❤️
I was about 16yrs old when this scandle started. Living in London just about to leave school. It all began with the slum landlord Rachman, then Perfumo and Stephen Ward took his life. Christine and Mandy I feel were made scape goats as the scandle they were pushed in the face of the press to divert some of the political backlash. Christine had a very hard life from snippets I read when I was growing up in London. Finally lets hope she is resting in peace. Thank you for this video. Just a thought have you got Tony Hancock in your List a very sad story harrassed by the tax man. 💕🇦🇺
I was only 8 when this all broke, have learnt of it as an adult and so much more from you as usual! You pack so much into your short videos. She had in many ways such a sad life, but hope she had a least moments of happiness...
Love watching your videos that I just started watching.😊♥️
Thank you so much! ❤️
Very interesting and well narrated video, thank you. I had just started work at the age of 17 when the Profumo Affair broke, of course non of us knew the detail that was available many years later in the excellent TV drama series. Yes it brought down the Tory Government and lent a whole knew meaning to McMillan’s statement “…you’ve never had it so good …” !! I can’t explain why, but to be honest I felt a bit sorry for her .
Thank you so much! Oh yes it certainly did bring a whole new meaning to the statement 🤭 I think Christine was so young when she got tangled up in it all - she hadn’t had the best start in life and she was vilified at the time - it was all a bit of a confusing mess and unlike Mandy Christine didn’t use it to her advantage as she got older.
Love these docos. Just watched the Krays one about Reg's wife. So respectful! Unsure why I'm drawn to this era - perhaps because my Grandma is from the London of this era (still slive and laughing at 101 😂❤). Keep up.the fabulous work ❤
Oh I love this! Your grandma 101 - what an amazing achievement! I think that's why I'm fascinated with the era myself, I was born in Chelsea and I remember London so well during the 1960s onwards, my Mum didn't drive when I was a child, so during the day before I went to school or during the school holidays etc - we'd walk to my grandparents and other relatives or get the bus if they were too far away - so I was literally always walking the streets of London so to speak!!!! xxxx Thank you so much for your lovely comment!!! xxxx
Very good ! Again well told and I never heard of this before ! Being from USA Your Stories are new to me .
Oh I love that! I’m pleased to introduce you to these fascinating people! Thank you! X
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre your welcome !
There is a movie about this I think it is called Scandal starring one of our premier actors John Hurt.
@@2011littlejohn1 Thank you I will look that up Jack I would like to see it .
@@bobbauer2287 As a note of interest it features a recording of Apache played by the Shadows whilst the 2 girls are dressing. Every British rock guitar player of my generation can play that tune. The lead player is the first British guitar hero. :)
Thank you so much for the video xx
My pleasure! Thank you for watching! It's very appreciated xxxx
Yes, I was a young boy then and I am a bit ashamed now of some of the disgusting jokes I told about the Profumo Affair at the age of just 14. I always wanted to make people laugh. Another great video, thank you.
Ah that’s understandable - we live and learn! Thank you so much for your comment and for watching! ❤️
Ever thought of doing a show on Les Dawson? He was such a funny man with his face pulling. Great stuff by the way.
As a young teenager in the sixties I delivered papers when the Profumo Scandal broke . Our customers complained to the newsagent their Sunday papers were being delivered later. The reason was the newspaper boys insisted in reading the next installment before they were prepared to deliver the Sunday papers. That was our sex education .
I love the film dealing with this period called "Scandal".
A particularly beautiful performance by John Hurt.
What a fantastic video . Loved the snippets of info .this is the yr of my birth 1963 Oct .at the time this was happening I was inside my mother lol. 1963 alot happened .Nice ending with the ashes .and to hear she had a loving family.
Thank you so much!!!! The 60s are my favourite era 😬 I experienced most of it firsthand 🤣 in London too! So there’s a real vibe for me that I thoroughly enjoy! I remember pretty much most of London in the 60s and 70s - as my extended family were living in various parts and although my dad had a car - my mum didn’t at that time and we used to walk or bus everywhere - one of my favourite memories was my Nan taking me to C&A in Putney to buy clothes - still my favourite hobby 🤣 x Oct 63 - you’re still just a baby lol
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre your favourite hobby 😁😁.oh my lol you just love being a girlie .doing girlie things and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that it's good for the sole .I must have a feminine side the size of a house 🤣😁.Love spending on me lol .as a youngster myself and freinds always bought red bus rovers .hop on and off buses from 9a.m. to 3 or 4 p.m. going all over London getting semi lost jumping on buses until we recognised where we were lol .
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre also I had 2 big brothers eldest went to Dulwich college in the day .60s . so didn't see much of him he 74 now my other brother 68.
It’s why I had started a vintage dress shop 🤣 we used to travel about London without telling our parents where we were going - I remember ending up on the HMS Belfast on one of our jaunts - goodness knows how we found our way back home!!!! Must have been around 10 or 11!
Ahhh - there’s 4yrs between my bro and me - he’s the youngest!
Wow you’re knowledge is amazing fantastic job and thank you.
Thank you!!! It’s the product of a misspent youth 🤣 always reading biographies and watching vintage films! Xxxx
ANOTHER GREAT AND VERY INTERESTING VIDEO
ONLY HEARD OF CHRISTINE KEELER BUT DID NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HER
WHAT A LOVELY LOOKING WOMAN
NOW I KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT HER THANKS AGAIN 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! That you so much - and yes Christine was certainly beautiful! ❤
I was only just born. 1968. I became aware of this huge Scandal in 1989 with the film Scandal! I then read lots of books on the subject and the period. It had it all: youth, sex, espionage, The Cold War, race, class,
It was a very different time. Thank you for your comment and for watching.
I was born in 1951 so I remember the scandal. Some boys at school started calling me Mandy because they thought I looked liked Mandy Rice Davies, so much so one young man who wanted to go out with me later on thought my name was Mandy. Boys at school can be an absolute pain.
Oh 🤭 I’d have loved to look like Mandy she was very beautiful! I remember what some of the boys at school were like when I was a teenager 🤣 I hear you! I do miss those days though 🤭 thank you so much for your comment and for watching the video! ❤️
Nice video, unfortunately I was only 3 going on 4 in 1963 so the whole thing passed me by, but I would say that, wouldn't I? 😀
Awwww lol - It's a period in British history that I find fascinating! Thank you so much for watching x
I'm a Yank, who was 11 in 1963. I remember the thing very well, though as you might imagine, American
newspapers were not detailed in their accounts. I grasped the essence of it, though. Profumo was almost certainly a future Prime Minister. I remember reading that JFK was distinctly unsettled by the whole thing, which is understandable and funny. I'd enjoy a video about Profumo himself, who, as I understand, lived quite an admirable life after his downfall. I'm extremely enthusiastic about the fifteen years or so of British life pre - Beatles: the Ealing comedies, anything with Peter Sellers in it, the general milieu.
Thank you for a sensitive portrait of Christine Keeler. This is the first time in ages that I have seen Stephen Ward's portrait of Prince Philip! I was 14 years old when the scandal broke open in May, 1963, hitting American newspapers. Ward was known as the world's best osteopath and also as a talented artist. He treated Winston Churchill, the Royal Family, the peerage, movie stars, politicians, world leaders, everyone. He went to Buckingham Palace to draw Philip and the Queen Mum. As the scandal grew, and details of sex parties came out, those portraits stopped being shown in the news. I haven't seen Philip's drawing in over 50 years! "The Crown" has a scene where Samuel West as Anthony Blunt refers to procurement of the portrait at great expense, to protect Philip, and threatens exposure if he loses his job at the Palace. British Intelligence has just informed the Queen that Blunt is a double agent, working for the Russians. I have wondered, over the decades, what happened to Ward's drawing of Philip and the Queen Mum (and possibly others) and whether or not the drawings still exist.
My pleasure! Thank you so much for your interesting comment - I find the whole episode so intriguing - I also think there was so much more to Prince Philip than we’ll ever know! The connections have always fascinated me - Including Ted Baron - the photographer - there always seems to be something to discover/uncover - which I think is why I love it all so much - and researching is like time travel ❤
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre From what I've heard in an interview with writer Douglas Thompson, Anthony Blunt did indeed purchase all of Stephen Ward's drawings of the Royal Family, including Princess Margaret, from a gallery where his work was being displayed when the scandal broke. Whether he did this at the behest of Buckingham Palace or on his own is not known. What I don't get about Stephen Ward is, he was known for having magic fingers when it came to fixing peoples' backs. I wonder that he didn't have some money put by, and could have gone far enough away from England and set up shop somewhere else, like Athens. I think he would've had a thriving practice in no time, though it would've meant exile from the British aristocrats that he was so enamored of. Had he lived, I wonder how long he would've spent in prison on a pandering conviction. Everyone knew the charges were bullshit. The women testified that he was their pimp because they were threatened with loss of their children and long prison sentences if they didn't. I'm not convinced he wasn't murdered. It is a dangerous thing to know the sexual secrets of powerful men.
thanks for this. Great narration 👌👏
Thank you so much! And thank you for watching - it’s very much appreciated ❤️❤️❤️
During the Profumo scandal, I was a toddler in the San Fernando Valley in California of all places. I learned about it from the 1989 film based on the incident. Thank God the Beatles came along in 1963 to bring us happiness for the rest of the decade.
🤣🤭 Yes!!!! The Beatles certainly gave us some of the best music of the century! And a lot of happiness 🎸🎸🎹🎵🎤 thank you so much for your comment and for watching - it’s much appreciated xxxx
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre You are soooo welcome. XO Nice to meet you here.
@@chrisbacos thank you - lovely to meet you too! 😊
Oooh I really enjoyed watching your video, and listening to your voice and accent. I love England (only been there for about a year, long ago, and I'm dying to get back). I found you by chance, after watching a different person talk about Christine Keeler, and I very much prefer the way you talk ! (not to be mean, but the other person talks in such a stilted way, so it's a relief to listen to you!😄) I'll watch lots more of your videos. I also liked how you showed the real places. Oh I love the Thames and its surroundings! Anyway thank you and cheers from a Greek who landed up in LA but longs for England or Europe.
Thank you so much for your lovely comment - you’ve made my day - what a fabulous way to start the week! I absolutely love Greece especially Cyprus as I’ve spent many a happy holiday there - and L.A. what an amazing place to live! I’ve attended the Memorials for Marilyn Monroe in L.A. treasured memories! Thank you again for your wonderful comment and for watching the video - it’s very much appreciated ❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Amazing to hear from you, thank you, and I'm rather thrilled that you said I made your day🤭. (though you have so many other lovely comments from people everywhere!)
Well, I wish we could sit and have a long chat about Greece, and interesting memorials like Marilyn Monroe's, and other unusual stuff in LA.
I have to tell you I hated LA when we arrived 24 years ago, because it was a massive anticlimax, after having lived in vibrant Athens. I'm only here because of my husband (and sadly LA has declined drastically because of corruption....oh there's so much to talk about).
Anyway I do really like the area we live in now, because it's on the foothills of a huge, wonderful mountain in Burbank. I need dramatic landscapes or skylines ! (like the crazy, dense skyline in Athens where I used to live).
Cyprus must have been great. I haven't been there. So glad you got to experience some of the Greek culture and landscape.
I'll comment on some other videos of yours and thank you for doing them. They're the perfect length, and so interesting and well done 🤩😘
And by the way, "bizarre" has been one of my favourite words for decades, so that's another reason I clicked on your channel☺haha. Stay well ! xx
Ah! Our friends are from Cyprus and so we had the privilege many years ago of seeing behind the tourist life! We got to enjoy the real Cyprus and it’s such an amazing place! The food is my absolute favourite!
L.A. I love for old Hollywood history - and the Marilyn vibe of course - though I’m upset that they tore down Jayne Mansfield’s Pink Palace!
Ahhh Bizarre 🤭 when I began the channel I wanted a name that would capture the whole world of interesting people - and the people I knew I wanted to feature are not all perfect - some were beautiful some were considered bad and some were a little strange/unusual and some - bizarre - and of course some were all thee - seemed perfect to me and I love words and that’s one of my favourites too 🤭 thank you again for your lovely and interesting comment! I always enjoy chatting - I sometimes miss comments or don’t get to them at all when I take time out but I do always try to catch up! Hope you have a wonderful day! ❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Hello ! So fun and interesting to read that you experienced the real Cyprus and delicious food (I miss the food in Greece).
Sad about the Pink Palace in LA, yes !
(I have enjoyed going to some places like The Roosevelt Hotel, where Marilyn Monroe and many others used to go, and also The Biltmore).
And that's great to know you love words too (I love words and "playing" with them🤗)....and the word bizarre, and naming your channel, etc. You got the perfect name/ title for your channel !
Wonderful to chat some more !
😘Thanks !
Christine is exactly fifty years older than my daughter, Siân, same birthday. My daughter has the same spirit, worked all over the world, now back in Surrey where she lives back with her mother. Coincidence ey? 😁👍
It’s in the ‘stars’!!!! ❤️❤️🌹
It’s so sad how so many beautiful women get used and abused only to end up forgotten.Another great video.David
Thank you xx
I remember the whole event very well . She brought her clothes from the same Taylor’s I did way back then . They had a picture of her in the window dressed in the gown .
Oh!!!! You must have been exquisitely dressed! (Vintage fashion passion here!) her clothes were stunning!
Maurice Kravetz and sons of Wardor St I still have some of the hates and gloves that’s I couldn’t bare to part with
I wasn’t alive but my mum and grandmother saw Stephen Ward the day before he committed suicide. They were on a bus and spotted him. Whenever Christine’s story is mentioned my mum tells me about her sighting. 😊
I find the whole episode incredibly interesting! And the conspiracy theories around Stephen’s death too! It’s interesting to hear that your mum saw him that day! I was born in the hospital where he died just a few weeks before!
I was married in 1957 and lived in New Cross. I remember it very well.
Really enjoying your excellent videos. I just just watched 5 on the bounce. So interesting and addictive. I’m ok with Jimmy Edwards, although not thoroughly a fan. I grew up seeing him on tv a lot. I wish I was famous enough for you to make a video 😂 regards Mike
Ohhhh! 🤭🤭🤭 thank you so very much! Jimmy is rather controversial I agree - I think many of them are in different ways - which adds to the fascination I guess! Your lovely comment has started my Saturday off just right! Thank you so much for watching! ❤️
Another scandalous episode, liked the on-location shots
Thank you - I really enjoyed that day - it’s a fabulous place to stroll around and there is a real vibe there - Christine’s story has always fascinated me! ❤️
Very young in 63 only no about her through the old news reels
I’ve been interested in her for years - to begin with for the fashion! But then I got her autobiography and was totally hooked on learning more!
I was only 1 in 1963 but my dad always used to reflect on it because politically it was a seismic event.
Profiumo went on to raise a lot of money for charities after his forced exit from politics.
I do not know if this is fact or fiction, but it was said that Profumo used to bring a girl probably Keeler down to an isolated cottage close to Abergavenny. This story was told to us by an old farmer client that owned the tiny cottage. I have no evidence for this but in the early 60’s the drive to south Wales would bring anonymity.
A great and as usual interesting video. .
Cheers
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That’s so interesting thank you! I’m fascinated by the whole event! I believe there was so much mor to it that is still unknown! Thank you for your comment and for watching! ❤️
I remember this era very well
Always had great admiration for her
Christine was so different from Mandy - they both handled their past in polar opposite ways I think xxxx
You should add, like many others do... a patron link, to buy you a coffee... why not???
That's so kind of you thank you! I really just love making the videos, I do get funds from running ads, and I'm just happy to share my passion with anyone else who is also interested! The only reason there hasn't been any new videos recently is because I've been rather unwell, but hopefully I'll be back up and running very soon! xxxx
I watched the flim and read the book. Fascinating.
I’m a bit obsessed 🤭 I read everything I can get my hands on! It’s so interesting xx
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Uses to pass by St Paul’s regularly on Way to Court
Oh yes! Another of my deepest interests - it was just such an interesting era xxxx
A very sensitive tribute .
Thank you so much for watching ❤️
Thankyou for sharing this video, I found it very interesting, I watched the film about her life , she was a strong woman and I liked her. 🌹
Thank you for your comment and for watching! ❤️❤️❤️
I have read every book about this! Thanks!
My pleasure! It was so difficult to stay below 10mins - there is sooo much to say about it all! I’ve collected every book I can get my hands on - on the subject 🤣💋
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre Its so fascinating that whole time, could also be something to do with me being born amidst it all! x
@@vivienneandersson6019 same here 🤣 and in Chelsea too lol x I would so love to read those files that haven’t been released!
I didn't know Kay Kendal worked at Murray's, I love her, I was looking at photos of her yesterday, it's sad how Christine's life turned out and there was so much hypocrisy and sexism in how Christine and Mandy were treated and depicted in the press when the men were not exactly choir boys x
She did! And she was another complete stunner - but what a tragically short life - and how she fell for Rex is beyond me!
I was 16 in1963 i remember it well
The whole thing was tremendously exciting to this bored 18 year old at the time. Sex, spies, government officials...all coining on the heels of the first James Bond movie. I only later realized how tragic it all was, but it continues to fascinate me. I have Christine's book and the two wonderful movies about the scandal: 'Scandal' with Joanne Whalley and 'The Trial of Christine Keeler' with Sophie Cookson.
Thank you so much for sharing your perspective! I can imagine how captivating and sensational the whole Christine Keeler scandal must have seemed at the time, especially with all the intrigue surrounding it. It’s only later, as you said, that the real tragedy of it becomes clear. The mix of sex, spies, and politics was like something straight out of a Bond film, but with such heartbreaking consequences. Christine’s story really does continue to fascinate, and her book along with those films provide such an interesting insight into the era and her life. Glad to hear you enjoyed the video! Thank you so much for watching, it's very appreciated xxxx
Great video poor Christine, had a hard upbringing she was a looker. she looked more classy than Mandy, but Mandy, had a better life. but I had too giggle the girls did bring the Government down. but then it was the swinging Sixtes. l was only 11 when all this happened.
Oh yes! Christine was stunning, it's so sad how things went for her, and I do agree with you 100% Mandy took it all in her stride and was so much more positive about things - I'd really recommend her book Mandy by Mandy - if you haven't read it already - it's an interesting read in comparison with Christine's take on things! xxxx
It's funny a little while ago I was listening to a Leslie Flint science on Leslie Flint Trust on line and Stephen ward come through he talked about it interesting.
How fascinating! It's incredible how certain historical figures continue to captivate our curiosity even decades later. Stephen Ward's involvement in the Profumo affair certainly left a lasting mark on history. It's intriguing to hear about such encounters through platforms like the Leslie Flint Trust. xxxx
Hello Shar, when i left my comments on Valerie Hobson, l said I'd write more after watching the Christine Keeler video. I was about 9/10 yrs old.The whole story lived on for many years,and caught my attention. So i read up on it. Oh the many sides to this tale😢😊😮 like John le Carrie novel.For me 3 ordinary people are the heart of this story Stephen Ward,Mandy Rice Davis & Christine. Ward the society figure.Who was easy to cut off& cast out😢The girls 👭 I never thought of them as prostitutes . They were the swinging 60's, the good time girls, a bit of a laugh at life😂Mandy seemed to enjoy the novelty ,the naughtiness of the situation, and played the game.Christine ,i felt was out of her depth against the system. And we all know,you can't beat the "system " it wore her down and,short term won.Ward paid a very high price,but in the long run Profumo & Hobson and Keeler showed grit and i believe that the public forgave them. Or al least understood them. Some😢Some😊 but interesting lives lived❤ ❤ that's all for now.Hugs and kisses 😊❤Allan&Family
I went to Jack Profumo''s birthday party. I looked at that old man in a wheelchair and thought of Christine.
Oh wow did you! How old was he?
What a life when you start young it becomes difficult
Totally agree! ❤️
There was a movie about this with actress Joanne Whalley?
Yes it’s called Scandal and was made in 1989 x
I was 16 in 1963
It was such a big thing at the time wasn’t it! I think people would barely bat an eyelid now!
I was a Mod on a Vespa scooter!
That’s so cool! ❤️
Today Oprah would interview her
You’re probably right 🤭
I do recall something about this but it seems to me that the women were treated worse than the men involved
Well - it’s complicated - Stephen Ward was totally ruined and Profumo only really survived I think because Valerie stood by him - he lost his job and respect - I think Mandy came out of it pretty well in the end - Christine massively struggled with it all to the end of her life xx
Who killed Stephen Ward, available on Amazon, is an interesting book. It questions if Ward's death was really suicide. It also goes into detail about the people and the events of the time which give greater insight to just how closely the establishment and politics was linked.
Hi the video of the houses and river you show is where?
It’s the Thames - I’m walking on the opposite bank to Wraysbury - where Christine grew up - you can’t walk that side I think it’s mostly private now x
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre that beautiful Tudor house.
Very few kind words were spoken about her within our family...that woman caused a nonestop wrilwind of drama.
Some ended up in prison as a result.
My mother could not stand her ..being in the same room would end up in bloodshed.
I was told all about her..
The press made her sound like an icon..pepole that really knew her got to see a very different side, she loved the attention and affection of men and often used it to her advantage... regardless of the outcome.
Its easy to paint a picture when those in the frame are no longer here...the turth will never be told about this very British scandal.
History is always subjective - and of course it all depends on whose point of view you’re seeing things from.
Are you related to Lucky Gordon? From your name and what you’ve said it’s made me wonder - I should think if you’re seeing Christine from that perspective it wouldn’t be a favourable one!
I just absolutely love history and it can’t be denied that Christine was a major part of British political history in the 60s!
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Do you have Facebook or email
I will be more than happy to share a much more in-depth insight there.
As you can appreciate due to the nature an open forum is not always the safest place.
Remember the story in the day been all over the Sunday papers News of the World headlines.. Very attractive woman was Christine keeler.. ❤
She was! And so young to get embroiled in such a mess! I think she was out of her depth it must have been so awful! ❤️
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre she must have been in very deep and as u said brave and fearless . Her looks must have turned many a man's head x❤
Beautifull lady
She was! ❤️🌹
At the time I was in Libya serving on an R.A.F. base. About the time of the Cuban Missile crisis six Russian MIG fighters landed at that base. This incident is described in a soon to be published book I've written which is a humourous account of life around me - as all our behaviour due to the isolation was very eccentric. It is called Sweating On My Chitty Box.
Oh wow that’s brilliant - and the book’s title made me laugh out loud! I shall look forward to reading that - when will it be published?
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre The perhaps enigmatic title is explained in the last chapter. The book is illustrated by sketches by a cartoon artist Steve Meyers. It will be published some time this year - at the moment it is at the proof reading stage so I have no definite date but the contract has been signed etc.
@@2011littlejohn1 I will keep a look out on Amazon for it! Proof reading is a nightmare I know only too well!
As one of your subscribers I will notify you. When I first saw the sketches - it was a weird feeling as Steve brought it all to life 59 odd years later. :)
That’s wonderful thank you! I can imagine - to be honest it must have been an emotional journey writing the book - so I can imagine the sketches were the icing on the cake!
This must be your best - the bay of pigs in the UK, we could say. Mandy was Welsh, born near me before her family took her to Birmingham - Mandy has a heck of a story too. 👍
I agree Mandy does!!! She was very different to Christine and I’d say they were frenemies! Especially in later life ❤️
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Look into Mandy. She was a well clever lady, in her own way. Dabbled with millionaires later all over the world. 🙂
Oh she did!!! She is fascinating - especially her relationship with Peter Rachman! I’ve always been interested in Mandy’s life! ❤️
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Certainly was a fascinating character - classic lady for the time, like a black and white British movie from then. 👍
This is why I’m passionate about the past! These people seem to me infinitely more interesting than the celebs of today! 🌹
Our paper girl was Mandy she worked for lines paper shop and lived in Blenheim Road she went to Tudor Grange school with my god mothers daughter Ann Manley when she del8vetec our Birmingham evening postvshe was a thin scrap of an ugly duckling about 13 years old.after her exposure in the papers at school boys were told not to visit he coffee shop she visited and certainly not tonask for her autograph which had been annoying to bevshop owner.
Oh wow! That’s amazing - thank you so much for sharing that! ❤️🌹
excellent ending
Thank you so much xxxx
As I remember I was a 16yr old having just left school and spent most of my time playing football in Ravenscourt park in Hammersmith and just generally being an obnoxious teenager...Lol PS I wasn't too obnoxious really 😄
Fingers up, \/ out of the top of the box, sailing past the Houses of Parliament. 🙂
🤣🤣🤣 I love it!
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre 😁😁😁👍
If you remember the 60's you were not there (George Harrison). However at around 15 I remember these young ladies. It's OK - I didn't go blind.
🤣🤣😂 thank goodness for that 🤭
I was in my mother’s belly. This happened 3 months before nI was born.
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She was such beautiful women ...
She was! ❤️❤️❤️
Profumo after the scandal was devoted to helping the poor of the east end of London.I know he was guilty of adultery and mixed with questionable people but it takes two to tango..I’ve never bought that Keeler was that innocent and done well selling herself to the “best and highest in society..Which the KGB would have been very interested in such a women with her dubious connections..Ward’s involvement and death seems suspect..I’ve read some on Ward and the impression I got of him was he was a seedy character,on the make for thrills and cash..
In all everyone involvement was shady and dangerous for the times of the Cold War..But out of all John Profumo payed a hefty price..
It was such an interesting time in British culture, history and politics!
@@BeautifulBadandBizarre The past is like another country where they do/did things differently there.But I agree the time of the Cold War was a strange place.Mix Cold War affairs and the fabulous 1960’s together and your halfway to 007.!.
Thank you for your very kind reply and your wonderful videos.The love and curiously for the subjects you have is what makes them magic to watch..Please keep up the good work.!✌️😀👍🇬🇧
I can't remember, I was only 2 months at the time 😂
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In school I was only 8
From my own research
Mountbatten moved in these so did Prince Philip
Ohhhhhh this is one of my most favourite subjects - the Thursday Club! Yes indeed, Prince Phillip was in regular attendance, and there are quite a few stories I've heard through the grapevine that make interesting listening! It was a fascinating era - if you are interested in these times, I can recommend reading up on the Colony Club - in Soho, more facinating and intriguing readng!!!! xxxx
I think u forgot to mention her affair with Pakistani president field marshal Ayub Khan.....
To be utterly truthful I don't think I came across anything about that - thank you for the information xx
Mandy Rice-Davies would have dealt with a "snooty" Sue Lawley.
I met her once she was very nice.
School I was 8
Loved the 1960s!
I just found out I’m related to her
That’s so cool! Xx
She was groomed by older powerful people
I was a mod