45:00 - "Fluid-damped cabin fixture" - I think the lost-in-translation part is to think of "fixture" not the way we usually do, as in "light fixture", but in terms of "method of affixing." So I think "cabin fixture" would describe body mounts, if it was body-on-frame. So, I know they had liquid-filled engine mounts, but this makes me wonder: Did the LS400 have liquid-filled subframe mounts?
Previous owner of 92 ls400 here. It could refer to overhead passenger grab handles. When you let them go, they slowly rise back into place instead of slamming against the headliner. Incredibly common in modern cars but a luxury innovation in the late 80s during development. Same with the glovebox slowly lowering.
Just saying, but a holiday is exactly when someone might want to take their fancy car out for a drive. The owners probably see the facility as a fancy car park and expect it to be open every day all year.
Every plumber I know is absolutely crushing life... Plumbers and electricians. Tell your kids to skip college and go to trade school. Failing to get into the university course I wanted to turned out to be the best thing that happened to me. Didn't know it at the time, but I got a job in mining and learned a bunch of skills while earning great money. Set me up for the rest of my life.
I failed to get into the HVAC course at my local community College and took programming courses instead then used those credits to get into a state university to get a 4 year bachelors in computer science. Now I'm making over three times the average salary that I would as an HVAC journeyman. Different strokes for different folks 🤷♂️
@@wtfchazpwnt Well that actually illustrates my point further, that sometimes when you're young things take a different a path than you were expecting and that can turn out to be for the best... So I should qualify what I meant by saying, it's not a good idea to get yourself into debt at college if you're not sure what you actually want to do with it. I mean, if you want to study medicine, law or a STEM subject, and you're on the path to make it: college is right for you. I actually did end up going back to university and got a bachelor's degree in nursing, but I hated doing it for work and now I work in theatre, which all happened because of volunteer work that made me some amazing connections. So my point was more about not wasting your time and learning about hard work, when I went back to uni I absolutely cruised through because I had some money to lean on and I was used to working 12hr days in the Australian desert. I think if I went and studied music, like I'd originally planned, I'd have lost my passion for what I did in my spare time that over the last few years has ended up becoming what I do for my money now. So yeah, what I mean is make the most of every opportunity and sometimes you don't know what's right until you look back in retrospect. But good for you, you found a different path when the one you thought you were on turned out not to be for you.
Spain's unemployment is high, and wages are relatively low. They make do with cheaper cars, so that might go some way to explaining the lesser enthusiast scene... Also, richer folk from Germany or perhaps the UK are closer to the alps, where the roads are also exceptional, without having to drive 1000 miles further to get to Spain....
The Lexus LS400 was available in 1990 with optional air suspension in the United States. They are not common as it was a costly option. The LS430 models of the 2000s also had it and those are more common than the older model.
that intro resonated with me 1000%. i own and operate a funeral home pretty much by myself and yeah, i pretty much always end up working major holidays or the night of. i can't complain though because death doesn't take a holiday, but it sure as hell pays for all the toys 🤣
I’ll say I used to use the frunk of my 718 all the time, it was so large and practical. With my Model 3 I almost never use the frunk because it’s not practical (at least model with heat pump).
To get a driving licence in Spain costs in the thousands of euros because you must do something like 40hrs min with an instructor and multiple pre tests. If you fail the actual test you need to go back and do the 40hrs one to one again. The licence is more expensive than a first car.
Also, ham does not go bad after 2 weeks, probably they told you this cause you would just buy more. Jamon iberico, Prosciutto and so on, they don’t “rot” if kept properly. Also Jamon Iberico has a higher fat percentage that acts as a natural barrier against elements, like mold or fungi. You can keep it for months in a dark, dry basement, covered with a linen or cotton blanket. It will just create a hard layer where you cut it first, you just remove that and it’s perfect. It’s the whole point of “cured” meat, to be preserved longer without cooking it (even though it’s cooked by salt, air and long time) In Italy we make our own cured meats in autumn/winter and we eat them all year long, even raw sausage cured inside a fat jar. And Italy has some of the highest life expectancy, like top 3. So no, we do not die eating meat.
Spaniard here!the reason of the lack of car culture in Spain is basically consecuence of our regulations.Even put a 2 inches bigger rimes in your car cost a fortune.Another reason could be that cars are really expensive in comparisson with EEUU,for example.Motorcycles on the other hand...They are cheap and every weekend(not in the middle of the week,when you where here) you can see A LOT of them in any canyon road.You can check the number of world titles that spanish riders have the last 25 years,Motogp,moto2,moto3...we have Toni Bou,who has 35 trial world titles and still in active!
9:12 Subaru aren't the best seller in Europe, but you seem them regularly. New Outbacks and Crosstreks, Levorgs. Miatas are sold for absolutely good money and you can see them too (also because we have them with 1.5 and 2.0 motors). But the thing is - in southern parts of Spain and Italy (for example) people mostly treat cars like washing machines. The will just have a random car to go back and forth. And a scooter to ride in the city.
My left field luxury pick…1987 Aston Martin Lagonda…yes maybe the most unreliable car of the 80’s, but damn sure looked good driving to the mechanic to drop off for repairs
Spain, Italy (where I’m from), also France. Guys you don’t understand how hard it is for us to buy and maintain even cheap sports cars. Probably you don’t realize that we pay taxes for everything. - ECO tax when you buy. - Registration tax. - Annual High power “super” tax, higher for new cars, drops 25% each 5 year timespan - Annual possession tax based on displacement and car age. - higher insurance for higher power cars My Honda 2003 S2000 cost me 800€ when I bought it (on top of the price) 600€ per year just to own, almost 1500€ insurance per year to keep. And all this for just 240hp. Modern cars are easily 300+ and they cost a fortune. You really have no idea how hard it is.
44:20 All LS400's and Celsiors have air-ride, as an option, from 1989 until 2000. However, it's pretty rare as take rates were pretty low and systems have only become rarer as they get retrofitted to standard shocks when they wear out. But I am 100% confident US cars have air suspension. Why? I own one. As for fluid filled cabin fixture, I have no idea. I've never heard that term before working with technical and maintenance things, but it appears in all of the marketing material. I have no idea. I'm an expert in this car and I have no idea what it could mean. My best guess is maybe fluid engine mounts or some strut rod, but that's a strange way to say that.
You were spot on about the 718s that were going to go to Europe before the regulation coming to the US. My dad got an allocation for a Cayman GTS 4.0 that was originally supposed to be a European car but instead is going to Texas.
Lexus incorporates these fixtures into various parts of the car, including the instrument panel, center console, and door trim panels. These fixtures contain a special fluid that helps to absorb and dampen vibrations that would otherwise travel through the car's chassis and into the cabin.
My friend works at Rolls Royce and he is a big Bill Mitchell fan, the Cadillac elements are there as another mutual friend has a beautiful '69 Elderado, other loves are John Lautner architecture. So the Royce might be British. But it's more GM in the late 60's early 70's and that should be appreciated by Americans as many car "enthusiasts" in the US hate these cars.
I do wonder though if there is a market for the old school landyachts that existed in the 70s and were actually not bad sellers. Like surely with EV tech going forward we're bound to see more personal luxury coupe influenced cars, I reckon, for the masses if all a car will be is an indistinguishable pod This is a Rolls EV sure but Cadis though Cadis weren't squigglions back then
The similarities between the EVs now and Yank Tanks 50 years ago are there. If fuel usage and weight are not in the limiting factors then why wouldn't you just add more? Your question of GM, Ford or Stelantis going into the luxury sedan market? I don't think they have the separation to do it. BMW and VAG have taken years to separate the VW Phaeton and 7 series ( iX) from the Royce and Bentley. Mercedes should have the same with Maybach. The 300C was the example of where Chrysler rocked up in a suit when everyone else wore sweat pants. Sad that they only sell minivans at the moment. Let's hope they are bold enough to try
As to the question asked about an early 2000’s Bentley. It’s absolutely one of those cars that you buy “two” of, you buy the one you drive and the one you service. Now, I regularly deal with a 2007 Continental gtc that has 170,000 miles on the original engine and turbos. The engine is still running very strong and smooth. Matt is 100% correct that the infotainment screen is so outdated it’s almost unusable. Overall, if you have a good relationship with a mechanic who won’t bend you over a barrel, it’s worth it in my opinion
700 for a Jamón? A very very good one should be around 300 in Spain. And if you want to see supercars and sportbikes you have to go to Málaga. Don.t miss the next presentation in the Ascari race track. There is were the good roads are, our own canyons. Sevilla is not known for it.s car culture.
I feel like if the Mach e frunk had the same automatic opening and closing as the lightning you would use it more, it’s kinda a pain having to unlatch the hood from inside the car, it’s also a pain shutting the hood as it never fully locks when putting it down so you need to give it another good push to latch it completely
Funny, I would say Serrano ham, since jamon just means ham. But yea, if you want authentic food you need to import it. I once got blackforest ham in the US and it was a cooked ham with a pepper crust.... If you buy Gouda it is cut with cheddar, if you want beer it is cut with lemon.
Only when you talk about luxury cars do you talk about how much it costs and how guilty you feel. You don't make that comment about all the supercars you drive - many of which are at least as expensive. In your Ferrari 812 video the as tested price was $474,000 and you said, "it's actually pretty reasonable considering what you get." Why is your perception of two vehicles that cost the same so different? Why does one make you feel guilty and the other one make you think it's good value?
The Taycan is not a baby friendly car, the rear doors are a foot thick so not great when parked. Take a baby seat when you are car shopping and a pram and get your Mrs to lift it. There is a reason people with kids drive an SUV
What’s sad is they’ve lost all perspective on what their audience wants to see. The first 15 minutes is painful. I’m embarrassed I stuck with it that long. Please don’t do this.
As someone who lives in Sacramento I can say about the last question of the charging station is thay they are building it after seeing what the land is like. Large companies like Pepsi is pretty much converting/has converted nearly their entire fleet into the new Tesla trucks and it's all I see in the truck yards in the southern part of the city.
I know you guys are doing this "main topic" for SEO, but I hate it! I just love you guys shootin the breeze on these crew shows. I hope this tactic works for you but I usually totally tune out once you start the "topic". Still love half the show. You guys have very interesting lives and views to me and I would much rather hear more about that stuff. Even though I am not and will never be a watch guy, I still find your watch talk more interesting than your "main topic". Just sayin.
While we took the yacht from Monaco to Croatia, I managed to buy a whole jamon for $40. Sadly the next morning the Serbs shelled Dubrovnik where we were moored. We left bloody quickly up to Venice instead.
The problem is that there is less and less proper car passion. Teenagers neglect the cars considering them only as the transportation as Zack mentioned or, there is a group of flashy, show-off-in-front-of the-disco enthusiasts. People in general look less and less for the good roads just to make a stretch. And imho there is no connection with the wealth. If there would have been a lot of passionate people they would have driven in the old cheap GTi cars. And check your younger family members' walls ... how often you see a car there? We are still in the shrinking minority. More exposed and consolidated thanks to the social media but still.
Volvo's stand alone $3k Bowers and Wilkins stereo is the best car audio money can buy. Period. Haven't heard better, especially on the XC90; even better than Meridian.
The people building the Rolls can't afford it. The people building Porsche, Merc, even BMW can't afford most of those cars.
45:00 - "Fluid-damped cabin fixture" - I think the lost-in-translation part is to think of "fixture" not the way we usually do, as in "light fixture", but in terms of "method of affixing."
So I think "cabin fixture" would describe body mounts, if it was body-on-frame.
So, I know they had liquid-filled engine mounts, but this makes me wonder:
Did the LS400 have liquid-filled subframe mounts?
I think you are right, because around the same time the 'luxury' top end foresters of the time had fluid filled LCA bushes
Previous owner of 92 ls400 here. It could refer to overhead passenger grab handles. When you let them go, they slowly rise back into place instead of slamming against the headliner. Incredibly common in modern cars but a luxury innovation in the late 80s during development. Same with the glovebox slowly lowering.
Just saying, but a holiday is exactly when someone might want to take their fancy car out for a drive. The owners probably see the facility as a fancy car park and expect it to be open every day all year.
Every plumber I know is absolutely crushing life... Plumbers and electricians.
Tell your kids to skip college and go to trade school.
Failing to get into the university course I wanted to turned out to be the best thing that happened to me. Didn't know it at the time, but I got a job in mining and learned a bunch of skills while earning great money. Set me up for the rest of my life.
I failed to get into the HVAC course at my local community College and took programming courses instead then used those credits to get into a state university to get a 4 year bachelors in computer science. Now I'm making over three times the average salary that I would as an HVAC journeyman. Different strokes for different folks 🤷♂️
@@wtfchazpwnt Well that actually illustrates my point further, that sometimes when you're young things take a different a path than you were expecting and that can turn out to be for the best... So I should qualify what I meant by saying, it's not a good idea to get yourself into debt at college if you're not sure what you actually want to do with it.
I mean, if you want to study medicine, law or a STEM subject, and you're on the path to make it: college is right for you.
I actually did end up going back to university and got a bachelor's degree in nursing, but I hated doing it for work and now I work in theatre, which all happened because of volunteer work that made me some amazing connections. So my point was more about not wasting your time and learning about hard work, when I went back to uni I absolutely cruised through because I had some money to lean on and I was used to working 12hr days in the Australian desert.
I think if I went and studied music, like I'd originally planned, I'd have lost my passion for what I did in my spare time that over the last few years has ended up becoming what I do for my money now.
So yeah, what I mean is make the most of every opportunity and sometimes you don't know what's right until you look back in retrospect. But good for you, you found a different path when the one you thought you were on turned out not to be for you.
@@wtfchazpwntand look up the rate of depression in computer science. Dont get burnt out brother
Matt, thanks for being a good leader, not just a boss. Some days I have pipe dreams of working at your shop!
Spain's unemployment is high, and wages are relatively low. They make do with cheaper cars, so that might go some way to explaining the lesser enthusiast scene... Also, richer folk from Germany or perhaps the UK are closer to the alps, where the roads are also exceptional, without having to drive 1000 miles further to get to Spain....
Also... It's winter/early spring!!!!
Life in Spain is just Spain without the S
Like the French to a degree they just aren’t into driving in general. They have seat but never been a motorist nation.
It is actually not that high, Spain avg income is 30k USD per year but cars are getting more expensive.
Sad there was no mercedes 600 grosser on the list
The Lexus LS400 was available in 1990 with optional air suspension in the United States. They are not common as it was a costly option. The LS430 models of the 2000s also had it and those are more common than the older model.
that intro resonated with me 1000%. i own and operate a funeral home pretty much by myself and yeah, i pretty much always end up working major holidays or the night of. i can't complain though because death doesn't take a holiday, but it sure as hell pays for all the toys 🤣
I’ll say I used to use the frunk of my 718 all the time, it was so large and practical. With my Model 3 I almost never use the frunk because it’s not practical (at least model with heat pump).
Spain is the epicenter for MotoGP so I'm surprised you didn't see more two wheeled enthusiasts.
To get a driving licence in Spain costs in the thousands of euros because you must do something like 40hrs min with an instructor and multiple pre tests. If you fail the actual test you need to go back and do the 40hrs one to one again. The licence is more expensive than a first car.
Each country no matter which one will get its citizens $ one way or another, in the US it’s tax the literal shit out of any & everything lol
You have to put the w140 s-class in there. They're in the top cars period ever made.
Also, ham does not go bad after 2 weeks, probably they told you this cause you would just buy more.
Jamon iberico, Prosciutto and so on, they don’t “rot” if kept properly.
Also Jamon Iberico has a higher fat percentage that acts as a natural barrier against elements, like mold or fungi.
You can keep it for months in a dark, dry basement, covered with a linen or cotton blanket.
It will just create a hard layer where you cut it first, you just remove that and it’s perfect.
It’s the whole point of “cured” meat, to be preserved longer without cooking it (even though it’s cooked by salt, air and long time)
In Italy we make our own cured meats in autumn/winter and we eat them all year long, even raw sausage cured inside a fat jar.
And Italy has some of the highest life expectancy, like top 3.
So no, we do not die eating meat.
Spaniard here!the reason of the lack of car culture in Spain is basically consecuence of our regulations.Even put a 2 inches bigger rimes in your car cost a fortune.Another reason could be that cars are really expensive in comparisson with EEUU,for example.Motorcycles on the other hand...They are cheap and every weekend(not in the middle of the week,when you where here) you can see A LOT of them in any canyon road.You can check the number of world titles that spanish riders have the last 25 years,Motogp,moto2,moto3...we have Toni Bou,who has 35 trial world titles and still in active!
9:12 Subaru aren't the best seller in Europe, but you seem them regularly. New Outbacks and Crosstreks, Levorgs. Miatas are sold for absolutely good money and you can see them too (also because we have them with 1.5 and 2.0 motors). But the thing is - in southern parts of Spain and Italy (for example) people mostly treat cars like washing machines. The will just have a random car to go back and forth. And a scooter to ride in the city.
My left field luxury pick…1987 Aston Martin Lagonda…yes maybe the most unreliable car of the 80’s, but damn sure looked good driving to the mechanic to drop off for repairs
Like Zack says, using the frunk is muscle memory. The younger generation that grow up with them will use them regularly.
Spain, Italy (where I’m from), also France.
Guys you don’t understand how hard it is for us to buy and maintain even cheap sports cars.
Probably you don’t realize that we pay taxes for everything.
- ECO tax when you buy.
- Registration tax.
- Annual High power “super” tax, higher for new cars, drops 25% each 5 year timespan
- Annual possession tax based on displacement and car age.
- higher insurance for higher power cars
My Honda 2003 S2000 cost me 800€ when I bought it (on top of the price) 600€ per year just to own, almost 1500€ insurance per year to keep.
And all this for just 240hp.
Modern cars are easily 300+ and they cost a fortune.
You really have no idea how hard it is.
the first continental is the last american car with a v12, thank you NC transportation museum. both generations are quite beautiful
44:20 All LS400's and Celsiors have air-ride, as an option, from 1989 until 2000. However, it's pretty rare as take rates were pretty low and systems have only become rarer as they get retrofitted to standard shocks when they wear out. But I am 100% confident US cars have air suspension. Why? I own one.
As for fluid filled cabin fixture, I have no idea. I've never heard that term before working with technical and maintenance things, but it appears in all of the marketing material. I have no idea. I'm an expert in this car and I have no idea what it could mean. My best guess is maybe fluid engine mounts or some strut rod, but that's a strange way to say that.
I hate how confidently matt denied Zach's claim.
You were spot on about the 718s that were going to go to Europe before the regulation coming to the US. My dad got an allocation for a Cayman GTS 4.0 that was originally supposed to be a European car but instead is going to Texas.
Lexus incorporates these fixtures into various parts of the car, including the instrument panel, center console, and door trim panels. These fixtures contain a special fluid that helps to absorb and dampen vibrations that would otherwise travel through the car's chassis and into the cabin.
My friend works at Rolls Royce and he is a big Bill Mitchell fan, the Cadillac elements are there as another mutual friend has a beautiful '69 Elderado, other loves are John Lautner architecture. So the Royce might be British. But it's more GM in the late 60's early 70's and that should be appreciated by Americans as many car "enthusiasts" in the US hate these cars.
I do wonder though if there is a market for the old school landyachts that existed in the 70s and were actually not bad sellers.
Like surely with EV tech going forward we're bound to see more personal luxury coupe influenced cars, I reckon, for the masses if all a car will be is an indistinguishable pod
This is a Rolls EV sure but Cadis though Cadis weren't squigglions back then
The similarities between the EVs now and Yank Tanks 50 years ago are there. If fuel usage and weight are not in the limiting factors then why wouldn't you just add more? Your question of GM, Ford or Stelantis going into the luxury sedan market? I don't think they have the separation to do it. BMW and VAG have taken years to separate the VW Phaeton and 7 series ( iX) from the Royce and Bentley. Mercedes should have the same with Maybach. The 300C was the example of where Chrysler rocked up in a suit when everyone else wore sweat pants. Sad that they only sell minivans at the moment. Let's hope they are bold enough to try
As to the question asked about an early 2000’s Bentley. It’s absolutely one of those cars that you buy “two” of, you buy the one you drive and the one you service. Now, I regularly deal with a 2007 Continental gtc that has 170,000 miles on the original engine and turbos. The engine is still running very strong and smooth. Matt is 100% correct that the infotainment screen is so outdated it’s almost unusable. Overall, if you have a good relationship with a mechanic who won’t bend you over a barrel, it’s worth it in my opinion
700 for a Jamón? A very very good one should be around 300 in Spain. And if you want to see supercars and sportbikes you have to go to Málaga. Don.t miss the next presentation in the Ascari race track. There is were the good roads are, our own canyons. Sevilla is not known for it.s car culture.
or just go to bcn/madrid
and btw, a cinco jota jamon is usually around 550, and i woulnd't consider anything below that to be "vey good"
The 2007-2012 Lexus LS360 had an optional air suspension.
I think they were getting their wires crossed as Zack was talking about LS in general and Matt was hung up on LS400
UHM ACKTUALLY the ls430 had at least rear air-ride in the ultra-luxury package. And the bose active suspension system was electric, not hydraulic.
Royale for the win!!
My Fiat X1/9s pop ups used to wink
Same as my uncle's '69 Corvette! Great memories ☺️
I feel like if the Mach e frunk had the same automatic opening and closing as the lightning you would use it more, it’s kinda a pain having to unlatch the hood from inside the car, it’s also a pain shutting the hood as it never fully locks when putting it down so you need to give it another good push to latch it completely
Love the Space Balls reference.
01:11:20 It is not a Glas-shutte, but a Glass-hutte. Like a Glas hut.
43i has a signed pearl jam guitar that would look fucking sick somewhere in Matt's possession. Auction live now!
Funny, I would say Serrano ham, since jamon just means ham. But yea, if you want authentic food you need to import it. I once got blackforest ham in the US and it was a cooked ham with a pepper crust....
If you buy Gouda it is cut with cheddar, if you want beer it is cut with lemon.
Big decent car stereos will never be a thing in EV's cause they use way to much power especially if they have subs
1968 Opel GT had pop-up headlights that work.
Sorry but the pop up headlights on my 89 Prelude S with the duel (slow ass) carbs was amazing! 😂 miss that fucking car😂
If you go to Costa del Sol you will definitely see sportscars.
But mostly not owned by Spaniards
No Toyota Century? Not a single Maybach? hmmmmm
Mate, in Spain it's winter/early spring!!!
spring started 21st of march, so winter is no more, luckily
For the RS6 buyer, how about a CT-5 Blackwing?
1)Lexus Ls 400
2)Lexus Ls 430
3) Lexus Ls 460
4) Lexus Ls 600H
5) Lexus Ls 500
My top 5 luxury cars ^^^^^^
if its jamon iberico its so expensive cause 1 in 5 spoil during ageing process..makes them even more to import
Only when you talk about luxury cars do you talk about how much it costs and how guilty you feel. You don't make that comment about all the supercars you drive - many of which are at least as expensive. In your Ferrari 812 video the as tested price was $474,000 and you said, "it's actually pretty reasonable considering what you get." Why is your perception of two vehicles that cost the same so different? Why does one make you feel guilty and the other one make you think it's good value?
The Taycan is not a baby friendly car, the rear doors are a foot thick so not great when parked. Take a baby seat when you are car shopping and a pram and get your Mrs to lift it. There is a reason people with kids drive an SUV
Zach choices seem to revolve around newer or updated options…i think zach wants a new car lol
Spain is one of the poorest countries in Europe. That's why there's no "fun" sportscars out and about. But hey, great roads for the busses.
Not poorer than Italy for example but Spain is full of regulations, car related taxes and very high gas prices. 1,70€ for 1 litre of gas.
What’s sad is they’ve lost all perspective on what their audience wants to see. The first 15 minutes is painful. I’m embarrassed I stuck with it that long. Please don’t do this.
🧑🏾💻I'm here, luxuriously
As someone who lives in Sacramento I can say about the last question of the charging station is thay they are building it after seeing what the land is like. Large companies like Pepsi is pretty much converting/has converted nearly their entire fleet into the new Tesla trucks and it's all I see in the truck yards in the southern part of the city.
I know you guys are doing this "main topic" for SEO, but I hate it! I just love you guys shootin the breeze on these crew shows. I hope this tactic works for you but I usually totally tune out once you start the "topic". Still love half the show. You guys have very interesting lives and views to me and I would much rather hear more about that stuff. Even though I am not and will never be a watch guy, I still find your watch talk more interesting than your "main topic". Just sayin.
+1. It honestly kind of ruins the show and feels so fucking corny.
While we took the yacht from Monaco to Croatia, I managed to buy a whole jamon for $40. Sadly the next morning the Serbs shelled Dubrovnik where we were moored. We left bloody quickly up to Venice instead.
Serves you right for being in such a godforsaken place
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT What? You mean like visiting Pearl Harbor and getting bombed?
The problem is that there is less and less proper car passion. Teenagers neglect the cars considering them only as the transportation as Zack mentioned or, there is a group of flashy, show-off-in-front-of the-disco enthusiasts. People in general look less and less for the good roads just to make a stretch. And imho there is no connection with the wealth. If there would have been a lot of passionate people they would have driven in the old cheap GTi cars. And check your younger family members' walls ... how often you see a car there? We are still in the shrinking minority. More exposed and consolidated thanks to the social media but still.
Volvo's stand alone $3k Bowers and Wilkins stereo is the best car audio money can buy. Period. Haven't heard better, especially on the XC90; even better than Meridian.
CYBER MATT
I am constantly amazed at how much time Matt spends talking about the insanely expensive luxury cars. Newsflash: car guys dont care about Rolls-Royce.
First 😁