Joshua Sage I agree. Having studied and practiced traditional hand-drawn cel animation, this movie is one of many unique masterpieces still unknown ☹️ I had the great opportunity to watch this film in a movie theatre on Full-screen! I
Probably need a master level knowledge of perspective to animate scenes like that. Like from the Scott Robertson "how to draw" book or what they teach in architect classes. At least modern software helps you set up the perspective lines easier now.
it makes me really angry and upset as an artist myself that this work got ruined on the way that it did, because it really really is a truly beautiful visual film for the most part and you can see what this was meant to and could have been had it been done right...such a waste
I know, I truly see an outstanding work of art that was never completed. I can tell what this movie was trying to be, and it could've been a beautiful masterpiece. It's a real shame.... The expression of what the original animation gives off is so bewildering and colorful. I especially find myself getting lost in the silent expressive nature and main protagonist, his design and visual language just pulls me right in. Sigh, this movie came so close, and it really makes me sad... But at least it still has people like us to appreciate its intended beauty.
+Lillian Lyles I just know how much work and how fuckn hard it is for me to just capture ONE good idea have and this whole situation gives me a headache and makes me want to explode because of the extremes of how beautiful it is and how horribly it was shit on in every conceivable way.
furthermore, this movie's biggest problem was that it was conceived and created by a truly passionate and EXTREMELY talented individual with a mind blowing unique vision, worked on by a team of other creative types selected to work on the project by the creator personally, and then taken over and hijacked by a bunch of individuals that may be good enough at what they do but lack any REAL passion and vision who are most concerned with putting SOMETHING together than putting something inspiring or good together so they can make money off of it because that is what is most important to them...MONEY! the way his project was ripped away from him and so disrespectfully thrown together breaks my fuckn heart honestly. I can't even begin to imagine having this happen to me. I work SO hard to imagine and create an idea and bring it to life through my art and that's just ONE thing! this poor man spent DECADES trying to bring his vision to life, when it comes to actually creative and inspired individuals there is nothing more important than expressing yourself through your art. those are HIS ideas and HIS creations and they belong to HIM!
@@parker-boy98 A similar moment was said by The Thief who (in inner monologue) says in reference to ZigZag's speech pattern, "Must be hard to speak in rhyme".
in the recobbled cut, which is the closest the movie is supposed to be to what williams wanted, there was no shitty musical scenes and the main characters were mute!
I watched the "unfinished" cut recently, and I can safely say that all the parts of this movie that sucked were MIRAMAX'S fault. The parts they didn't mess with/up are incredible.
@@thischannelhasbeenabandoned420I’d argue that the changes that Miramax made were an improvement over the Calvert cut. Not by much but still. The “Recobbled” Williams cut reigns supreme
My animation teacher actually worked on this movie as a colouror. He talks about it all the time. A few times he finished a scene and then it was sent back cause Richard Williams changed his mind on the colour of something
@Dämon Castiel (The Ringmaster Of The Underworld) actually Tac’s color was different in various scenes because after Richard Williams was fired from the film to get the film out quicker they outsourced three different studios for finishing up animation and to add colors. (Probably best explains why Tac’s skin color changes)
Honestly, I loved the "re-cobbled" version of this movie which was basically the way the movie was SUPPOSED to be before it got completely fucking ruined with these voiceovers and added bullshit. The Thief and the Cobbler don't actually talk at all in the original version.
Tack said one line in the end. One. Until then he didn't talk at all, and his voice was deeper than I suspected based on the design, so it cought me off-guard.
One of the songs was so bad I actually had to pause the video and wait a few minutes to watch it again. But that animation is... I can't describe how fantastic it is.
I suggest you to watch the recobbled here on youtube. It's as close as the orignal movie could get to finished. And it doesn't have anoying songs, which is great!
Agreed. I know they took it away from Williams and butchered it, but NC was really tough on this movie considering that it includes some of the best animated sequences in history. The Recobbled cut is so much better without the forced monologues and musical numbers, even with some scenes being unfinished or just still frames.
@@madelinequinn5879 Indeed! I just finished watching it and then saw this video and honestly im quite disappointed of this version... too much talking and monologuing...
There's a moral lesson behind projects like this movie: Do not spend too much time seeking perfection, lest you destroy your project in the process. It's better to release something that's lesser than your vision than to stall and stall and stall and let it die from age and stress.
Today I was at a screening of the film and Q&A with Richard Williams at the BFI and yes this is exactly the moral of the story. Spent too long on it so that it became very self-indulgent and sadly never finished. You can tell he is still deeply scarred from it.
truth, the movie actually was funded by some production companies throughout the years but they dropped support because the author kept missing his deadlines, had nothing of substance to show and because he was making a marvel of animation it was costing way more than anyone with sense was willing to fund funny how it was supported by an actual arabian prince at some point who was an animation enthusiast but after failing to show anything the prince retired
Yeah, I hate how everyone seems to make the production companies the bad guys in this. I understand wanting your masterpiece to be perfect, but expecting someone to keep handing you money for a seemingly indefinite amount of time is ridiculous. Anyone would pull funding after that long. ...That said, I really do feel bad for Williams. Getting pulled off his own project couldn’t have felt good.
MsAnnoyingComment No, I have to disagree with you because it was his project and he should have been able to make it to his vision and not ripped away from him! The bastards at the studios had no right to remove the control from Richard. Now he is dead and never was able to see the film he envisioned for so long!!
TwitchyTopHat if he'd been allowed to keep it then it would have been an excellent movie but cheap asshole companies have to try to appeal to everyone whilst following an awful cliched formula.
@@noxioustoxic4069 Still it lacks an overall theme. People would have forgotten about the original cut a few years after it released, or even in a single year. Good animation isn't why most animated movies are remembered; they are remembered for themes, stories, characters.
True. The animation is breathtaking. Rember this was handrawn. No CGI was used, because it wasn't around the 60's. It's also like the Yellow Submarine and Alice and Wonderland, personal favourites.
@@IamJustTheBiscuityOfTheSeaity Well let's see. A lot of his original animators either retired or died, promising distributors and funders that the film will be finished, infamously firing employees for the most petty reasons, demanding the film to be as perfect as he wants it, and of course taking 30 years to make and complete this! Like none of this was by Miramax!
@@atre5763 Only a few died, and he never wanted it to be "perfect" he just wanted it to be his magnum opus, and the reason for it taking so long was the fact the first eight years where spent on a different but similar movie that got cancelled and they where actually never in full production for most of the film, it didn't also help that they had to keep on removing stuff from the movie that could have taken weeks or months to animate and storyboard
Tack the Cobbler needs to be brought back in a new movie , but I want him kept as a mute, he's so damn adorable and keep him black and white, he looks way better that way
I have seen a bit of the animation in this movie and I swear it is some of the most gorgeous animation I've ever seen. unfortunately there is talking in this movie. and a plot.
It could have a beautiful artistic masterpiece, where the visuals and sounds tell the story instead. It's original idea honestly didn't need much of a plot, a movie like this should stay an experience. An unfinished piece of work that could have been a beautiful creation... It's a real shame...
A part? He was the Disney of it. But yea rip It’s so sad that people get the wrong idea of what it was meant to be from this video I mean this guy doesn’t even like kangaroo Jack the best movie of all time
My apologies It’s hard for me to tell if King Mighty One Eye was murdered by his women All I know is that they sat on him and was crushed under their weight
"alright I'll save you" *presses fast forward button* the singer can't sing, the songwriter can't write, and this song is completely pointless SO moving on"
RIP RICHARD WILLIAMS 1933-2019 He made a great movie without the bad stuff to ruined his career also he accomplishing his goal by Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I really love his art style in animation so god bless him. He'll never been forget.
Hearing about Richard Williams today made me think "I gotta watch THIS one again!" To hear Critic praise what was good about it, and rag on what sucked, like what Miramax did to it.
The animation is nice for it's age. I like how the cobbler uses the tacks in his lips for lips to show expressions. Make it again with better writing and don't use "That's a lot of fish" guy from Godzilla and you will be made.
Yeah, I just really wish we coulda gotten a better version of this film than the one we got. We shouldn't waste our lives on shitty movies like this. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look, you might miss it.
I love the look of the animation, and I personally really like the design of Tak (the first super pale one), I find it kind of cute. It sucks that the movie had all this shit happen to it, but I plan on checking out the recobbled cut sometime, I just wish it could have been finished as originally intended.
I do too, it could have worked well as an artistic movie... And I love Tak's original design and character as well. He just pulls me right into the story!
On the topic of ZigZag speaking in rhyme that's honestly an impressive feat for him, it's hard enough to right a script for something in rhyme let alone speak in rhyme It also shows he thinks ahead
Why can't these film companies learn that you can get a great amount of characterisation through an animated character's actions? You don't always need to give him/her dialogue!
+BackpackBooks Yep! 😄 I saw that version, and I quite liked it. I certainly cared a lot more about the romance between Tack and Yum-Yum in that than in this utter shite.
Because film companies - and the entertainment industry as a whole - thinks that audiences are braindead retards who need a constant bombardment of loud noises and flashy imagery to keep their attention.
The actual reason Tack's skin is white is because he's inspired by silent film actors like Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. That's another reason why in the original version of the Thief and the Cobbler by the late Richard Williams, Tack was a silent character.
I personally think that because he's a lonesome cobbler that his skin was just that pale. Near the end of the Recobbled Cut his design looks more human, and his skin color looks darker. I thought it was because the plot made him get out in the sun, metaphorically getting changed by meeting Princess Yum Yum. Or maybe I'm incredibly wrong and it wasn't finished. But hey.
I've watched the recobbled edition and wOW I wish this movie had been finished. The scale and animation, especially in the final war scene, is really a spectacle. I can feel all the hard work that went into it. And I wish it had been released because it shows that you can tell a story with characters who have no dialogue. It's such a visually stunning film. Such a shame it was cut up and dubbed like this.
Agreed. As such, the end (the final war scene as you say) of the recobbled version is heavy on storyboard and low on real animation, and therefore difficult to follow and feels too long.
According to Richard Williams, Tak was suppose to be mute throughout the movie except having a one-liner at the wedding scene ("I love you"). Appariently, Sean Connery was suppose to voice Taks one line but didnt show up to the studio so the line was given to a friend.
Vincent Price was fantastic in this movie. He sounds like he's having a ball doing the voice. Combine that with the stunning animation (the scene where he mess up a card trick is just astoundingly detailed) and you have a very memorable character.
This could have been a great work of art, but they just had to pander...It's like with many films and games today, they would rather appease focus groups and statistics rather than let the creative team...well...create.
this is honestly my favorite movie artistically. it's nothing special story wise but I honestly think it's one of the most interesting visual pieces of all time.
I recently watched the "Recobbled Cut Mk. 4." Taking out the Thief's monologue and the songs make it such an enjoyable piece of animation. Big ups to the Critic, I never would've seen it AT ALL if not for this video.
I saw the Princess and the Cobbler version when I was little, I would ask my mum to rent it for me every time we went to Blockbuster, I think I was entranced by the visuals of it. The Princess and the Cobbler I think is a lot closer to what the uncut version is e.g no or very little Matthew Broderick, the One-Eye sits on a throne of half naked green women, the princess has a different voice, the Theif has no narration, Zigzag's voice is different too, also the witch has a body. I think America just got a watered down version of it.
What. Is. *This!?* I saw the Thief and the Cobbler and this is *NOT* the thief and the cobbler! Now I know why what I saw was unfinished! THIS IS AWFUL!!! The unfinished version isn't perfect- not by far -but it's WAY better than *this*!
Just a little side note that's kinda connected to the movie: I forget what it's called but there is an actual mental condition which makes it so that a person naturally speaks in rhyme whether they want to or not. (Some people are more or less born with it while others end up affected by it after a brain injury) My junior year Chemistry teacher's husband ended up that way after a brain injury.
+101Swiftflick No that's interesting, didn't know that! Personally, I just love to rhyme from time to time, but I don't have to. Like with this one right here. xD
The movie has a cool style of animation, but it seems to be inconsistent sometimes with being very smooth with bright colors and little shading, or the more traditional detailed animation
Rickstery I agree. The animation seems really off at times, which bothers me because I really like it, but I have this odd feeling that there's something missing, but then again this movie was in developmental purgatory for decades.
Rickstery This is what you get when you mix the astounding animation born out of decades of work from Richard Williams and his crew, with the cheap-ass, hastily made animation that the company that took over had to make to fill in the blanks and 'finish' the movie for this release. :/
This makes me so glad I watched the 2013 Recobbled cut instead. That version removed the annoying inner monologues of the Thief and Cobbler and I think it removed the songs, which were never in the original plan before Miramax got a hold of it. So much better, though sadly still unfinished.
Ethan Sloan I completely agree, but I have a question, if anyone can answer. Why does the tack destroy the giant war machine? Is it supposed to be a miracle? Is it supposed to represent that they had miracles protecting them even without the balls, or am I reading to deep into it?
"Well, I guess when you make a machine that implausible, you're just begging for it to be taken down in an implausible way." - Nostalgia Critic, 2010, explaining every single boss battle ever
Great review and I like the fact that you bring attention to the Recobbled Cut, which is indeed the most complete version of this film. Though I do wish that at the end of the video, you had put in the music from the Recobbled cut or the original workprint to underline the fact that it is very different from the butchered Miramax cut.
11:44 The perfect song for Valentine’s Day. XD R.I.P. Richard Williams. He will be missed severely. 😢 It’s really sad that what would’ve been a masterpiece in animation would end up ruined because of a completion bond company taking over. 10:11 Can’t you believe that whole chase scene was all hand drawn by Williams. That’s true dedication there.
I know! I love his design! He's more expressive and charming as a silent character though. But his character intrigues me so much, the way he moves and expresses himself... He's really adorable and artistically beautiful...
From the few segments of the "Re-cobbled Cut" I have seen, the thief is also much more charming and funny as a silent character. Watching those clips reminded me a lot of when I first saw "Ice Age" and enjoyed watching the Scrat. Could imagine if the same guy at Miramax transferred over to Blue Sky and demanded the audience hear every thought going through the Scrat's mind?
I've never actually seen the original version, so when I saw this video I was confused... I was thinking " wait... why us the cobbler speaking...i don't remember that."
13:56 animated imbreeding 4:01 name funnies 5:09 bland song #1. 5:41 Spinning 6:53 vincent price rhymes 8:40 pumpkin 10:04 chasing madness 10:50 bland song #2. 12:54 grass!!! 13:11 golden ball crap!! 15:42 tacks skin color!! 15:59 the animator had a fatal heart attack. 18:40 wtf 20:06 Vincent price and the time bomb. 6:35 ok???
Amazing to watch if you're into animation, otherwise it's just creepy and drawn out. Giving total freedom to artists generally results in this. They'll want to make the best art they can, the project goes over budget, gets delayed, it's a mess. Doesn't matter what version is reviewed, this movie was made by animators for animators. Certainly not for children (too creepy, complex and drawn out), which is why it would never be commercially viable.
Retrovibes Saw it as a child, got it from a cereal box. One of the best movies from my childhood, don't even remember the dialogues or general plot, but the visuals are fantastic.
It wasn’t meant to be commercially viable. Richard Williams had a vision he wanted to share and didn’t care about making money. Unfortunately, the sentiment was not shared by Miramax.
12:50 Ya know "golden balls" is Japanese slang for testicles. So if you told this premiss to a Japanese person, they'ld think this movie was about someone trying to steal some guy's testicles. Just throwing that out there.
I recently watched both the Miramax version and the Recobbled cut, and I can say I liked both versions. Too bad there isn't a version that mixes both together, while changing some issues that ruined the Miramax version. I honestly had no problems with Tack having a few lines, or the 3 added songs, but I could not stand the Thief's constant internal babbling, even Phido the vulture got annoying with speech. If the movie had the opening from the Recobbled Cut, the visual quality and higher sound quality of the Miramax version, making the Thief and animals mute, and add in all the uncut animations, then this would make a great mix in my opinion. Overall, I kind of liked the Miramax version, mostly for it's better sound quality, and the minor characters sounded a lot better in that version. But the annoying Thief's constant commentary really got old, and did not match his appearance, or reactions to the troubles he's encountered at all. I can definitely agree with the Nostalgia Critic's dislike of thief, but I truly didn't see what was wrong with Mathew Brodrich as Tack. He barely spoke or monologued, and wasn't annoying either. I can agree his opening narration and closing narration weren't as good as the Uncobbled version, but I don't think he was worth criticizing the movie over. I also really enjoyed the villain in this movie. He had the best animation and facial expressions out of the entire film, each movement he made was a work of art. Speaking of which, I also really enjoyed the movie's animation. It did a great job at messing with the mind with it's constant mix of flat looking landscapes, fluid character animations, illusion filled palace rooms, and fast paced thrill rides across death traps. I can not hate the movie, just because it's climax was really rushed, because the animation really made up for some of the mediocre story telling. If only the Thief would have stayed silent, the film would have been much better, he was much funnier and more charming as a mute character.
Sounds like you'd like The Princess and the Cobbler version, then! No internal monologue, no (or barely) any Tack dialogue, but the songs are still in.
I actually quite liked it when the thief spoke, I think that him bringing in the wxtra comentary rlly made him into an actual character. Not to say that it was a particularlarly GOOD character, but with thw voice you could actually tell whe was semi important to the story
SpongicX well what's annoying with Matthew Broderick's Tack is that his lines and delivery are so bland that every time you hear his monologue it's less of a "Oh I'm learning more and more about the story and our hero and that gets me excited" feeling and more of a "Oh god more of this shit stain" plus Tack's monologue serves as a semi narration as well which adds a layer of even more annoyance when scenes that should be understandable and more pleasant to watch being VISUALLY delivered are instead being spoon fed by the blandest voice in the world that's also a Razzy contender.
For whatever reason, I've seen this movie hundreds of times. Like, over and over when I was a little kid. I have no choice now but to love it now. But it does sadden me that the original vision for this movie is far from the version we received
Another thing that bugs me is that the movie is called the thief and the cobbler yet besides that chase scene they never interact at all why not call it the princess and the cobbler
Nathan Shriver True, but the movie wasn't named "Zorg & Leeloo", and it really wasn't about just Leeloo or just Zorg. They were smaller parts of a larger whole.
No one is judging you, it's animation and style is gorgeous. (It's original animation anyway.) In it's original idea, this could have been a marvelous film. It's animation is so expressive, I wish it could've been completed in original form....
The animation was the only part of the movie that actually had thought put into it. The original story, cast, etc. was all cut for the almighty dollar.
You gotta feel bad for Richard. He poured his heart, soul, sweat, and tears into this film. He spent decades dedicated to this film and this is how it turned out. He was so determined and had to leave production on the one idea he was so proud of and the people he gave it up to completely ruined it.
Doug! You should review in no particular order: The Cobbler (Adam Sandler) Vampire's Kiss (Nicholas cage) Batman Forever (Val Kilmer) Jumanji (Robin Williams) Fast and the Furious... your pick The Halloween Tree (Just found out Leonard Nimoy is in this) Pokemon 3000 Mighty Joe Young (Charlize Theron) Over the Hedge (Bruce Willis) Newsies (Christian Bale) The Iron Giant (Vin Dieslel) thumb and comment if you agree with any of these!
@@kayleighbrown459 Maybe because there has been a remake and the way to tell apart from the remakes are the actors? For example, there are 2 Jumanjis. The original one has Robin Williams
This seems like it was originally supposed to be something that's mostly silent. With how many of the actions can be portrayed without any words. Just the thief doesn't need any words at all.
I wacthed the Recobbled version that is here on youtube. Belive me when I say it's much better and part of it are just storyboards are unfinished animations the people that worked in it donated.
The *best* thing about this movie is the realization that all of that smooth, trippy animatiom is completely hand-drawn. No CGI.
Even with the moving sets it's hand-drawn,and they mastered that technique. I wish many,many animators mastered that like Williams did.
Joshua Sage I agree. Having studied and practiced traditional hand-drawn cel animation, this movie is one of many unique masterpieces still unknown ☹️
I had the great opportunity to watch this film in a movie theatre on Full-screen! I
Ted Piwowar ikr! It looks so...mesmerizing..
Probably need a master level knowledge of perspective to animate scenes like that. Like from the Scott Robertson "how to draw" book or what they teach in architect classes. At least modern software helps you set up the perspective lines easier now.
At the time it began, wasn't really an option
it makes me really angry and upset as an artist myself that this work got ruined on the way that it did, because it really really is a truly beautiful visual film for the most part and you can see what this was meant to and could have been had it been done right...such a waste
yeah but big buisness had to fuck over his buetiful vision and just ruin it
I know, I truly see an outstanding work of art that was never completed. I can tell what this movie was trying to be, and it could've been a beautiful masterpiece. It's a real shame....
The expression of what the original animation gives off is so bewildering and colorful. I especially find myself getting lost in the silent expressive nature and main protagonist, his design and visual language just pulls me right in.
Sigh, this movie came so close, and it really makes me sad...
But at least it still has people like us to appreciate its intended beauty.
yeah
+Lillian Lyles I just know how much work and how fuckn hard it is for me to just capture ONE good idea have and this whole situation gives me a headache and makes me want to explode because of the extremes of how beautiful it is and how horribly it was shit on in every conceivable way.
furthermore, this movie's biggest problem was that it was conceived and created by a truly passionate and EXTREMELY talented individual with a mind blowing unique vision, worked on by a team of other creative types selected to work on the project by the creator personally, and then taken over and hijacked by a bunch of individuals that may be good enough at what they do but lack any REAL passion and vision who are most concerned with putting SOMETHING together than putting something inspiring or good together so they can make money off of it because that is what is most important to them...MONEY!
the way his project was ripped away from him and so disrespectfully thrown together breaks my fuckn heart honestly. I can't even begin to imagine having this happen to me. I work SO hard to imagine and create an idea and bring it to life through my art and that's just ONE thing! this poor man spent DECADES trying to bring his vision to life, when it comes to actually creative and inspired individuals there is nothing more important than expressing yourself through your art. those are HIS ideas and HIS creations and they belong to HIM!
"Why can't I ever talk when it matters?" Even Tack is tired of the overuse of monologing.
At least the characters are self-aware
@@parker-boy98 A similar moment was said by The Thief who (in inner monologue) says in reference to ZigZag's speech pattern, "Must be hard to speak in rhyme".
@@AndrewsMagicandMore This movie loves lampshading itself. Though I'd prefer the silent version. Also, Princess Yum yum sounds like a prostitute
in the recobbled cut, which is the closest the movie is supposed to be to what williams wanted, there was no shitty musical scenes and the main characters were mute!
@@AndrewsMagicandMore Unless you're a Dr. Seuss character, in which case, it's easy to speak in rhyme.
I watched the "unfinished" cut recently, and I can safely say that all the parts of this movie that sucked were MIRAMAX'S fault. The parts they didn't mess with/up are incredible.
I just watched it over the past two days, and damn was it a trip
A lot of it also comes down to Fred Calvert and the completion firm the film was sold off to.
Watch the Recobbled cut. That’s the True movie.
@@thischannelhasbeenabandoned420I’d argue that the changes that Miramax made were an improvement over the Calvert cut. Not by much but still. The “Recobbled” Williams cut reigns supreme
Stop blaming Miramax
My animation teacher actually worked on this movie as a colouror. He talks about it all the time. A few times he finished a scene and then it was sent back cause Richard Williams changed his mind on the colour of something
Stuff like that happens in all animated productions, though. Die mad about it.
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@@freecreditreport.combaby No.
Wow what a dick I'd quit lol
@Dämon Castiel (The Ringmaster Of The Underworld) actually Tac’s color was different in various scenes because after Richard Williams was fired from the film to get the film out quicker they outsourced three different studios for finishing up animation and to add colors. (Probably best explains why Tac’s skin color changes)
So... it’s August 17, 2019. Richard Williams just died today. Who’s watching this in honor of him?
Lol that's my sister's birthday. But I didn't know that Richard Williams died.
Me. Like as usual.
Potato Man that is also my birthday the death count of people who died on my birthday is now at 3
Ironic. I had a grandfather named Richard Williams who died just a few months later. Still miss him. 😞 Different Richard Williams, mind you.
He was a legend!
Honestly, I loved the "re-cobbled" version of this movie which was basically the way the movie was SUPPOSED to be before it got completely fucking ruined with these voiceovers and added bullshit. The Thief and the Cobbler don't actually talk at all in the original version.
Tack said one line in the end. One. Until then he didn't talk at all, and his voice was deeper than I suspected based on the design, so it cought me off-guard.
@@vernyulkisasszony4708 ha same with the deep voice
@@vernyulkisasszony4708 he was voiced by Sean Connery, it was meant to be a joke to startle the audience.
The recobbled version is astounding
I honestly wouldn’t mind if Tack had an occasional one-liner.
It's so trippy and well animated, but the dialogue and songs hurt my ears
No one blames you. All the songs and most of the dialogue wasn’t part of the original script. It's an awful shove in...
One of the songs was so bad I actually had to pause the video and wait a few minutes to watch it again. But that animation is... I can't describe how fantastic it is.
I suggest you to watch the recobbled here on youtube. It's as close as the orignal movie could get to finished. And it doesn't have anoying songs, which is great!
The Recobbled Cut is also on kisscartoon
Is it sad the movie and the songs are so bad I have a really hard time watching this review because the movie sucks that badly.
It's time, Nostalgia Critic, to review the Recobbled edition...the man, the myth, the legend, has passed, and he deserves a fitting tribute.
Agreed. I know they took it away from Williams and butchered it, but NC was really tough on this movie considering that it includes some of the best animated sequences in history. The Recobbled cut is so much better without the forced monologues and musical numbers, even with some scenes being unfinished or just still frames.
@@madelinequinn5879 Indeed! I just finished watching it and then saw this video and honestly im quite disappointed of this version... too much talking and monologuing...
@@madelinequinn5879 He's tough on practically every movie he reviews: it's his job.
There's a moral lesson behind projects like this movie: Do not spend too much time seeking perfection, lest you destroy your project in the process. It's better to release something that's lesser than your vision than to stall and stall and stall and let it die from age and stress.
Today I was at a screening of the film and Q&A with Richard Williams at the BFI and yes this is exactly the moral of the story. Spent too long on it so that it became very self-indulgent and sadly never finished. You can tell he is still deeply scarred from it.
I strongly disagree with that logic
-Richard Williams
truth, the movie actually was funded by some production companies throughout the years but they dropped support because the author kept missing his deadlines, had nothing of substance to show and because he was making a marvel of animation it was costing way more than anyone with sense was willing to fund
funny how it was supported by an actual arabian prince at some point who was an animation enthusiast but after failing to show anything the prince retired
Yeah, I hate how everyone seems to make the production companies the bad guys in this. I understand wanting your masterpiece to be perfect, but expecting someone to keep handing you money for a seemingly indefinite amount of time is ridiculous. Anyone would pull funding after that long.
...That said, I really do feel bad for Williams. Getting pulled off his own project couldn’t have felt good.
MsAnnoyingComment No, I have to disagree with you because it was his project and he should have been able to make it to his vision and not ripped away from him! The bastards at the studios had no right to remove the control from Richard. Now he is dead and never was able to see the film he envisioned for so long!!
I love how Tommy Wiseau took time to direct your short music video.
Especially considering the relationship Wiseau and Critic have.
oh hi levi
The ironic thing is the intentionally bad song the critic sings is still better than the song in the movie.
Levi Johansen ANYTHING FOR MY PRINCESS...hahahaah
Levi Johansen he
Id say as a movie, it fails. But the technicality and skill of the animation itself it remarkable tbh
TwitchyTopHat if he'd been allowed to keep it then it would have been an excellent movie but cheap asshole companies have to try to appeal to everyone whilst following an awful cliched formula.
Hopefully they put this animation to good use
Yeah it’s beautifully drawn but the production company made it shitty
Even Eric goldberg acknowledged it in his character animation crash course book
@@noxioustoxic4069 Still it lacks an overall theme. People would have forgotten about the original cut a few years after it released, or even in a single year. Good animation isn't why most animated movies are remembered; they are remembered for themes, stories, characters.
At least the movie is pretty
True. The animation is breathtaking. Rember this was handrawn. No CGI was used, because it wasn't around the 60's. It's also like the Yellow Submarine and Alice and Wonderland, personal favourites.
Alice *in* Wonderland
And better than Aladdin
Just watch it on mute.
Problem solved!
10/10
Snake Was Right Ha good one
Rest in piece Richard Williams. It’s a shame your magnum opus was ass raped by major studios
A shame indeed so much heart work into it masterpiece in art
Okay, but much of the blame goes to him as well.
@@atre5763How?
@@IamJustTheBiscuityOfTheSeaity Well let's see. A lot of his original animators either retired or died, promising distributors and funders that the film will be finished, infamously firing employees for the most petty reasons, demanding the film to be as perfect as he wants it, and of course taking 30 years to make and complete this!
Like none of this was by Miramax!
@@atre5763 Only a few died, and he never wanted it to be "perfect" he just wanted it to be his magnum opus, and the reason for it taking so long was the fact the first eight years where spent on a different but similar movie that got cancelled and they where actually never in full production for most of the film, it didn't also help that they had to keep on removing stuff from the movie that could have taken weeks or months to animate and storyboard
Tack the Cobbler needs to be brought back in a new movie , but I want him kept as a mute, he's so damn adorable
and keep him black and white, he looks way better that way
Yeah.
Racist?
@@steelingcable6350 I hope not
fr he is so cute!
this is the one of the few times that I would accept a remake of a movie
I have seen a bit of the animation in this movie and I swear it is some of the most gorgeous animation I've ever seen. unfortunately there is talking in this movie. and a plot.
It could have a beautiful artistic masterpiece, where the visuals and sounds tell the story instead.
It's original idea honestly didn't need much of a plot, a movie like this should stay an experience.
An unfinished piece of work that could have been a beautiful creation...
It's a real shame...
The recobled cut is actually pretty wonderful all around
+Tj Locke Meh, the backgrounds are pretty good but the people are about Disney straight to DVD standards
Teejay Kaye yes!!
This movie actually could have been done in silence and the story could be told still if done right.
Now that I have the balls...
Yakko: Goodnight, everybody!
+EpicMichael Applause
* Even more appluase *
(applause)
EpicMichael I will go see the king!
Perfect timing
It’s hilarious that you could tell which scenes were done between William’s team and which scenes were not.
In Memory Of Richard Williams
(1933 - 2019)
Animation Director Of The Thief And The Cobbler
R.I.P. Richard Williams... He was part of this film’s long, troubled history. 😢
A part? He was the Disney of it. But yea rip It’s so sad that people get the wrong idea of what it was meant to be from this video I mean this guy doesn’t even like kangaroo Jack the best movie of all time
"Now that I have the balls ..."
Of steel
+XenoSpyro Or brass. XD
+Kimani Wilson-Hunte Of Fire
Goodnight everybody
+Kimani Wilson-Hunte Goodnight, everybody!
In the original version One Eye totally gets killed by the women he used as a throne.
Mr. ShyRyHud That is just a theory because we don’t know what actually happened to him in the original version
In The Princess and The Cobbler cut of the film,One Eye is thrown off the machine by the ladies.
@@crsproductions2003 no the original is online
Augustin Well sort of
That is more of a re-edit know as the Recobbled Cut
My apologies
It’s hard for me to tell if King Mighty One Eye was murdered by his women
All I know is that they sat on him and was crushed under their weight
4:56
Generic song, generic song,
some jackass wrote this in his sleep..
Generic song, generic song,
it shuts your kids up so you can't complain.
SPARKLE SPARKEL SPARKLE
+DarkBeast 27 fuck yeah, sparkle sparkle sparkle!
"alright I'll save you"
*presses fast forward button*
the singer can't sing, the songwriter can't write, and this song is completely pointless SO moving on"
I can't tell if you're gay enought to make fun of Flagpole Sitta or if you're praising it.
Was there supposed to be singing in the original before...you know, we end up with this?
RIP RICHARD WILLIAMS 1933-2019
He made a great movie without the bad stuff to ruined his career
also he accomplishing his goal by Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
I really love his art style in animation so god bless him. He'll never been forget.
Born when Hitler was on the beginning of being leader
@@panzerkamphwaggenlll5247 😂😂wtf
Hearing about Richard Williams today made me think "I gotta watch THIS one again!" To hear Critic praise what was good about it, and rag on what sucked, like what Miramax did to it.
The animation is nice for it's age. I like how the cobbler uses the tacks in his lips for lips to show expressions. Make it again with better writing and don't use "That's a lot of fish" guy from Godzilla and you will be made.
Or simply don't use a plot and famous voice actors or the experience would be totally screwed.
Yeah, I just really wish we coulda gotten a better version of this film than the one we got. We shouldn't waste our lives on shitty movies like this.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look, you might miss it.
karda009 a fan made a "recobbled" version as Richard Williams really imagined
I beg you to eat some mushrooms and watch the re-cobbled edition, this movie will reveal the meaning of life.
I promise...
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roy kennedy Thank you. I know the reference too.
Where can I find the re cobbled edition?
It's been uploaded onto RUclips and Vimeo. Just look it up.
AnalogByNature me and my family watch the recobbled version once a year.
I love the look of the animation, and I personally really like the design of Tak (the first super pale one), I find it kind of cute. It sucks that the movie had all this shit happen to it, but I plan on checking out the recobbled cut sometime, I just wish it could have been finished as originally intended.
I do too, it could have worked well as an artistic movie... And I love Tak's original design and character as well. He just pulls me right into the story!
Tak has a wonderful and unique design
That is so gay
On the topic of ZigZag speaking in rhyme
that's honestly an impressive feat for him, it's hard enough to right a script for something in rhyme let alone speak in rhyme
It also shows he thinks ahead
That part when they are tilting their heads looking at each other, I'm like "What are you, owls?"
Mitchell Pape I think it's the cutest scene ever xD
It's cuter in the recobbled cut.
Valian G yeah, they are kinda like puppies.
Yes
Why can't these film companies learn that you can get a great amount of characterisation through an animated character's actions? You don't always need to give him/her dialogue!
+BackpackBooks Yep! 😄 I saw that version, and I quite liked it. I certainly cared a lot more about the romance between Tack and Yum-Yum in that than in this utter shite.
Yes, I saw the uncobbled cut and loved it.
TheDreweMaster tell that to the dumbasses that ruined waking with dinosaurs.
Gromit it's literally the proof of it
Because film companies - and the entertainment industry as a whole - thinks that audiences are braindead retards who need a constant bombardment of loud noises and flashy imagery to keep their attention.
To think this movie has horror's greatest actor, Vincent Price!
The poor guy.
Greninja Storm
Indeed Rest in Peace Vincent Price 'Ooo I love it when I'm Nasty!'
And the voice acter of Simba from the lion king...... can’t remember the guy’s name..
watched recobbeld edition. I have a new member of my favorite animated films. Seriously up there with stuff like Akira and Fantasia.
@@wolve-potter5775 if you compare hunchback to akira and the theif then no help in the enitre universe will save you
@@wolve-potter5775 fair
"It had something to do with Rock Hudson and a banana cream pie."
Well, Vincent Price WAS bisexual.
Wait really?
@@matthewleisure6710 Yeah, his daughter confirmed it. Apparently, he came out to her when she came out to him as a lesbian.
@@masque8930 huh, neat
The more you know
"It had something to do with Rock Hudson and a banana cream pie."
Lmfao
The phone call with Vincent Price never gets old 😂😂😂
Legitimately good impression lol
This movie would have been beautiful, had Williams stayed in control. :/ The animation blows me away... But everything else is terrible... :(
I always figured that Tak/Tack's lack of skin colour was from the fact that this movie was unfinished.
This channel is dead No I think his white skin colour was intentional
The actual reason Tack's skin is white is because he's inspired by silent film actors like Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. That's another reason why in the original version of the Thief and the Cobbler by the late Richard Williams, Tack was a silent character.
I personally think that because he's a lonesome cobbler that his skin was just that pale. Near the end of the Recobbled Cut his design looks more human, and his skin color looks darker. I thought it was because the plot made him get out in the sun, metaphorically getting changed by meeting Princess Yum Yum. Or maybe I'm incredibly wrong and it wasn't finished.
But hey.
@@destroyernoah That actually sounds like a clever subtle reason
It's cool having a black and white character surrounded by colorful scenery and characters, like Omori.
I've watched the recobbled edition and wOW I wish this movie had been finished. The scale and animation, especially in the final war scene, is really a spectacle. I can feel all the hard work that went into it. And I wish it had been released because it shows that you can tell a story with characters who have no dialogue. It's such a visually stunning film. Such a shame it was cut up and dubbed like this.
It really is a shame, it could have been a completed masterpiece.
guilleum2 yeah if that had been released instead I think this could have been a good movie.
Agreed. As such, the end (the final war scene as you say) of the recobbled version is heavy on storyboard and low on real animation, and therefore difficult to follow and feels too long.
According to Richard Williams, Tak was suppose to be mute throughout the movie except having a one-liner at the wedding scene ("I love you"). Appariently, Sean Connery was suppose to voice Taks one line but didnt show up to the studio so the line was given to a friend.
Vincent Price was fantastic in this movie. He sounds like he's having a ball doing the voice. Combine that with the stunning animation (the scene where he mess up a card trick is just astoundingly detailed) and you have a very memorable character.
Of course! He said it himself: he has the balls.
This could have been a great work of art, but they just had to pander...It's like with many films and games today, they would rather appease focus groups and statistics rather than let the creative team...well...create.
"But the chart says..."
Just like the new ghostbusters
+James Rowe I
Jessi TheGhost well the chart says
it was like that bad piece of art you keep on going with anyway
this is honestly my favorite movie artistically. it's nothing special story wise but I honestly think it's one of the most interesting visual pieces of all time.
This movie suffers from the 'Walking With Dinosaurs' syndrome. Meaning that the visuals are wonderful, but everything else sucks.
The BBC documentary, or the Land Before Time style cartoon?
Horrible movie with bad voiceovers.
Just as I thought
The Critic Well, the visuais ARE stunning
And poor Vincent Price, the master of horror movies, is in this shit movie.
The original version is a master piece. It's actually painful to see what the new producers did to the movie.
I don't know. It's seems to serious with it soundtrack and in some parts it lucks it.
This movie is remember it by its animation and its story, I think, because there is no such thing as a strong plot for me in this movie.
I recently watched the "Recobbled Cut Mk. 4." Taking out the Thief's monologue and the songs make it such an enjoyable piece of animation. Big ups to the Critic, I never would've seen it AT ALL if not for this video.
5:57 I don't care how bad the movie is that face is freaking adorable
I know, his character is really cute!
Way too cute for me
year, and i love his design.
AGREEEEEEE
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Close your eyes and imagine ZigZag is a rhyming Rattigan.
OMG! HEHEHE YES! This is what happened to him. When he fall, he didn't die! But got brain damage, and rhyming is the result of said damage lol XD
dandeentremont That does help with the pain a little.
I saw the Princess and the Cobbler version when I was little, I would ask my mum to rent it for me every time we went to Blockbuster, I think I was entranced by the visuals of it.
The Princess and the Cobbler I think is a lot closer to what the uncut version is e.g no or very little Matthew Broderick, the One-Eye sits on a throne of half naked green women, the princess has a different voice, the Theif has no narration, Zigzag's voice is different too, also the witch has a body.
I think America just got a watered down version of it.
Zigzag was always voiced by Vincent Price and Tack was voiced by Steve Lively in The Princess and the Cobbler.
Tack was voiced by the same guy who did Simba too, though he spoke way less (exactly 1:00 minutes worth of dialougue)
I don't know why I've always found Tack to be weirdly creepy and also adorable.
20:07 "1, 2, skip a few, 50." *BOOM!!!* "Oh, I love it when I'm nasty..."
Vincent Price is the real villain in this episode.😂
What. Is. *This!?*
I saw the Thief and the Cobbler and this is *NOT* the thief and the cobbler! Now I know why what I saw was unfinished! THIS IS AWFUL!!! The unfinished version isn't perfect- not by far -but it's WAY better than *this*!
Filly reports I was in shock as well, did you see that version on RUclips too?
Filly reports no no you watch Aladdin
same i watched The unfinished version too
where did you watch it?
Just look up the Recobbled Cut on google and you'll find it
Just a little side note that's kinda connected to the movie:
I forget what it's called but there is an actual mental condition which makes it so that a person naturally speaks in rhyme whether they want to or not. (Some people are more or less born with it while others end up affected by it after a brain injury)
My junior year Chemistry teacher's husband ended up that way after a brain injury.
+101Swiftflick No that's interesting, didn't know that! Personally, I just love to rhyme from time to time, but I don't have to. Like with this one right here. xD
+101Swiftflick
the best possible mental condition to have
some people would say thats a talent
Not when you can't turn it off it isn't.
+101Swiftflick i was unaware of this condition how will i know if i have this affliction ?
+101Swiftflick What if he used a word that didn't have a proper rhyme? Like Purple?
The movie has a cool style of animation, but it seems to be inconsistent sometimes with being very smooth with bright colors and little shading, or the more traditional detailed animation
Rickstery I agree. The animation seems really off at times, which bothers me because I really like it, but I have this odd feeling that there's something missing, but then again this movie was in developmental purgatory for decades.
The detailed animation was done by Williams crew. With 10 to 15 minutes of animation left to finish before the Bond company took over.
Rickstery This is what you get when you mix the astounding animation born out of decades of work from Richard Williams and his crew, with the cheap-ass, hastily made animation that the company that took over had to make to fill in the blanks and 'finish' the movie for this release. :/
I'm so glad child me got to watch the ACTUALLY GOOD VERSION where the characters didn't have microphones in their brains and Tak barely spoke.
6:17 It looks like Jafar and The Genie did the Fusion Dance.
Rob's (I'm assuming it's Rob) Vincent Price is pretty impressive.
It is Rob. 20:42 is proof.
This makes me so glad I watched the 2013 Recobbled cut instead. That version removed the annoying inner monologues of the Thief and Cobbler and I think it removed the songs, which were never in the original plan before Miramax got a hold of it. So much better, though sadly still unfinished.
I enjoy the soundtrack in that version.
Maybe he speaks in rhyme because he's been reading to many Dr Seuss books.
Pretty sure it's because he's a wizard or something.
CartoonKing3rd EGGS EGGS E DOUBLE G EGGS
you know i would pay to have vincent price ( god rest his soul) read dr seuss books
CartoonKing3rd That doesn’t make any sense.
My favorite review. Somewhat because this movie and it's backstory are so interesting. Mostly because you are making my sides hurt with laughter.
4:45
I understand how she feels, all I've ever wanted is for my bread to behave as well.
Check out the Recobbled Cut, guys. It's great.
Oh yeah I seen it! It's much better than the original cut! Have you seen the Persistence of Vision? It's also really good too.
Ethan Sloan I completely agree, but I have a question, if anyone can answer. Why does the tack destroy the giant war machine? Is it supposed to be a miracle? Is it supposed to represent that they had miracles protecting them even without the balls, or am I reading to deep into it?
The prophecy said something about the city being saved using the smallest of things. The narrator said that at the beginning of the movie.
Ah Animation inbreeding. So gross....
"Well, I guess when you make a machine that implausible, you're just begging for it to be taken down in an implausible way."
- Nostalgia Critic, 2010, explaining every single boss battle ever
Joseph Simpson it’s like if Rube Goldberg made a war machine for COBRA
Great review and I like the fact that you bring attention to the Recobbled Cut, which is indeed the most complete version of this film. Though I do wish that at the end of the video, you had put in the music from the Recobbled cut or the original workprint to underline the fact that it is very different from the butchered Miramax cut.
11:44 The perfect song for Valentine’s Day. XD
R.I.P. Richard Williams. He will be missed severely. 😢 It’s really sad that what would’ve been a masterpiece in animation would end up ruined because of a completion bond company taking over.
10:11 Can’t you believe that whole chase scene was all hand drawn by Williams. That’s true dedication there.
Whathe of the instrumental he's singing over ? It's also played in the Wicker Man and 14:20 of thisruclips.net/video/WaCGz8vUBvI/видео.html
I Heart Love
Directed by Tommy Wiseau
i think the Cobbler is adorable
I know! I love his design! He's more expressive and charming as a silent character though. But his character intrigues me so much, the way he moves and expresses himself... He's really adorable and artistically beautiful...
Oh!you mean tack is adorable?
You said the wrong there dumbass!
Tack is cute as hell. I would've liked him as a silent character though, and it would've been pretty cool if he used the tacks in his mouth to emote.
i agree. silent character wouldve been alot better for a character like Tak. expressions only
From the few segments of the "Re-cobbled Cut" I have seen, the thief is also much more charming and funny as a silent character. Watching those clips reminded me a lot of when I first saw "Ice Age" and enjoyed watching the Scrat. Could imagine if the same guy at Miramax transferred over to Blue Sky and demanded the audience hear every thought going through the Scrat's mind?
I've never actually seen the original version, so when I saw this video I was confused... I was thinking " wait... why us the cobbler speaking...i don't remember that."
Same
same'
13:56 animated imbreeding
4:01 name funnies
5:09 bland song #1.
5:41 Spinning
6:53 vincent price rhymes
8:40 pumpkin
10:04 chasing madness
10:50 bland song #2.
12:54 grass!!!
13:11 golden ball crap!!
15:42 tacks skin color!!
15:59 the animator had a fatal heart attack.
18:40 wtf
20:06 Vincent price and the time bomb.
6:35 ok???
God, that story about the production of this movie is depressing and sad as hell.
How?
the Vincent Price phone call was awesome.
I'm concerned that Doug has a mask room in his house. Just a room...full of disembodied faces.
*GIVE ME YOUR FACE!*
At least we know what Genie and Jafar's love child would look like with Vincent Price's character.
... uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh...
Jafar and Genie getting married in the same sex and having a baby Zigzag... I can see that.
Ky Mo
Oh god, PLEASE just stop...
+Ricardo Ortiz-Joseph Yeah it gave me nightmares also.
+Ky Mo
Well don't go giving ME any...
Rest in Power Richard Williams.
R.I.P. Richard Williams (1933-2019)
Should have seen the Recobbeld cut. Its a real masterpiece
I agree. I especially love the war machine sequence.
+Raging Froakie Now imagine, how it would have looked, if Williams had gotten the money he needed... DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
+Raging Froakie You didn't watch the whole episode, did you?
did you watch the video?
Yeah.
Amazing to watch if you're into animation, otherwise it's just creepy and drawn out. Giving total freedom to artists generally results in this. They'll want to make the best art they can, the project goes over budget, gets delayed, it's a mess. Doesn't matter what version is reviewed, this movie was made by animators for animators. Certainly not for children (too creepy, complex and drawn out), which is why it would never be commercially viable.
Retrovibes Saw it as a child, got it from a cereal box.
One of the best movies from my childhood, don't even remember the dialogues or general plot, but the visuals are fantastic.
It wasn’t meant to be commercially viable. Richard Williams had a vision he wanted to share and didn’t care about making money. Unfortunately, the sentiment was not shared by Miramax.
....How is is creepy?
I have to be honest, I consider this film an inspiration to my animation.
Just don't spend 30+ years doing it.
me too, I ended up being an illustrator
As an instructional tool for animation college or something like art museum, this movie is king
Yeah it inspired my dream to be an animator
@@Kimmy0721 it started in the 60s????💀
RIP Richard Williams today :(
I love the way Yum-Yum is drawn.
12:50
Ya know "golden balls" is Japanese slang for testicles. So if you told this premiss to a Japanese person, they'ld think this movie was about someone trying to steal some guy's testicles. Just throwing that out there.
... the hell...?
And zigzag is Arabic for shit fucker. Not kidding.
The Jerk
... the HELL?!
Ricardo Ortiz-Joseph
I'm serious. I'm Palestinian, and I know what I said.
+Nate Tanguay
Who knew the Thief and the Cobbler had so many innuendos!
(joking)
I recently watched both the Miramax version and the Recobbled cut, and I can say I liked both versions. Too bad there isn't a version that mixes both together, while changing some issues that ruined the Miramax version. I honestly had no problems with Tack having a few lines, or the 3 added songs, but I could not stand the Thief's constant internal babbling, even Phido the vulture got annoying with speech.
If the movie had the opening from the Recobbled Cut, the visual quality and higher sound quality of the Miramax version, making the Thief and animals mute, and add in all the uncut animations, then this would make a great mix in my opinion. Overall, I kind of liked the Miramax version, mostly for it's better sound quality, and the minor characters sounded a lot better in that version. But the annoying Thief's constant commentary really got old, and did not match his appearance, or reactions to the troubles he's encountered at all. I can definitely agree with the Nostalgia Critic's dislike of thief, but I truly didn't see what was wrong with Mathew Brodrich as Tack. He barely spoke or monologued, and wasn't annoying either. I can agree his opening narration and closing narration weren't as good as the Uncobbled version, but I don't think he was worth criticizing the movie over.
I also really enjoyed the villain in this movie. He had the best animation and facial expressions out of the entire film, each movement he made was a work of art. Speaking of which, I also really enjoyed the movie's animation. It did a great job at messing with the mind with it's constant mix of flat looking landscapes, fluid character animations, illusion filled palace rooms, and fast paced thrill rides across death traps. I can not hate the movie, just because it's climax was really rushed, because the animation really made up for some of the mediocre story telling. If only the Thief would have stayed silent, the film would have been much better, he was much funnier and more charming as a mute character.
Sounds like you'd like The Princess and the Cobbler version, then! No internal monologue, no (or barely) any Tack dialogue, but the songs are still in.
I actually quite liked it when the thief spoke, I think that him bringing in the wxtra comentary rlly made him into an actual character. Not to say that it was a particularlarly GOOD character, but with thw voice you could actually tell whe was semi important to the story
That's a good point
I mean I don't particularly like Matthew Brodrick but it makes more sense then Sean Connery for the voice
SpongicX Honestly I kinda hated the Miramax version--Okay I definitely despised it but the recobbled one was fantastic
SpongicX well what's annoying with Matthew Broderick's Tack is that his lines and delivery are so bland that every time you hear his monologue it's less of a "Oh I'm learning more and more about the story and our hero and that gets me excited" feeling and more of a "Oh god more of this shit stain" plus Tack's monologue serves as a semi narration as well which adds a layer of even more annoyance when scenes that should be understandable and more pleasant to watch being VISUALLY delivered are instead being spoon fed by the blandest voice in the world that's also a Razzy contender.
For whatever reason, I've seen this movie hundreds of times. Like, over and over when I was a little kid. I have no choice now but to love it now.
But it does sadden me that the original vision for this movie is far from the version we received
For when this was supposed to come out it was incredibly ambitious and the artwork was insanely beautiful. It was also hand drawn originally.
The thief's inner dialogue makes me laugh whenever I watch the film. To each their own. This is still one of my favorite movies of all time.
16:28 Was that......a Buddha IN ARABIA!!!!
Also am i the only one disturbed that a princess's name is yum yum
Another thing that bugs me is that the movie is called the thief and the cobbler yet besides that chase scene they never interact at all why not call it the princess and the cobbler
ikr
+Zack Bloodworth
Apparently, they did.
In the fifth element the protagonist and the antagonist never interact.
Nathan Shriver
True, but the movie wasn't named "Zorg & Leeloo", and it really wasn't about just Leeloo or just Zorg. They were smaller parts of a larger whole.
I kind of like this movie... for it's art style and animation... don't make fun of me.
+GenTanya Godfrey. Don't worry I like the animation of this film as well.
same 😄
Me too I watched it as a kid and have adored it ever since.
No one is judging you, it's animation and style is gorgeous. (It's original animation anyway.)
In it's original idea, this could have been a marvelous film. It's animation is so expressive, I wish it could've been completed in original form....
The animation was the only part of the movie that actually had thought put into it. The original story, cast, etc. was all cut for the almighty dollar.
dude if this was self funded, that chase scene probably took several years alone to create
I finally watched the recobbled cut. It's fantastic.
11:57 Congrats on making the most intentionally cringy song ever...
12:18 "I Heart Love" Directed by Tommy Wiseau
That gets me all the time...
You gotta feel bad for Richard. He poured his heart, soul, sweat, and tears into this film. He spent decades dedicated to this film and this is how it turned out. He was so determined and had to leave production on the one idea he was so proud of and the people he gave it up to completely ruined it.
And it still looks so amazing!
Doug! You should review in no particular order:
The Cobbler (Adam Sandler)
Vampire's Kiss (Nicholas cage)
Batman Forever (Val Kilmer)
Jumanji (Robin Williams)
Fast and the Furious... your pick
The Halloween Tree (Just found out Leonard Nimoy is in this)
Pokemon 3000
Mighty Joe Young (Charlize Theron)
Over the Hedge (Bruce Willis)
Newsies (Christian Bale)
The Iron Giant (Vin Dieslel)
thumb and comment if you agree with any of these!
Batman Forever ✔️
I'm curious. Why did you type the actors names next to the films?
@@kayleighbrown459 Maybe because there has been a remake and the way to tell apart from the remakes are the actors? For example, there are 2 Jumanjis. The original one has Robin Williams
Show of hands: Who wants to see Nostalgia Critic do a Matthew Broderick Month? ✋🏼
I rarely even think about Broderick, but what movies of his would you like to see NC cover?
@@pringlebatch Three I can think of are War Games, Project X, and Election.
This seems like it was originally supposed to be something that's mostly silent. With how many of the actions can be portrayed without any words. Just the thief doesn't need any words at all.
I said this before seeing the ending. Lmao
I really like The Thief and the Cobbler. It made me more curious about animation beyond Disney or anime.
I know
+NickRowler this one or the recobbled cut?
Adi Wadi
I like both.
+NickRowler No way! That's the same with me back in 2013! :D
A witch with an affinity for hands... why does that sound so familiar? Oh wait! GRAVITY FALLS!
I wacthed the Recobbled version that is here on youtube. Belive me when I say it's much better and part of it are just storyboards are unfinished animations the people that worked in it donated.
RIP Richard Williams. He passed away recently. 1933-2019
I love the way "Vincent Price" says Yes at 8:20. I quote it everytime.