0.- ¿? (0:00) 1.- Gary Numan - Gymnopedies (First Movement) (0:15) 2.- Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy train (0:48) 3.- Backstreet Boys - I want it that way (1:08) 4.- Gary Portnay - Where everybody knows your name (1:30) 5.- Foreigner - I want to know what love is (1:54) 6.- Iron Butterfly - In a gadda da vida (2:06) 7.- The Pinguins- Earth angel (2:23) 8.- ¿? (2:55) 9.- Nirvana - Smell like teen spirit (3:13) 10.- Salt'n'Peppa - Push it (3:51) 11.- Joan Jett - I love rock'n'roll (4:05) 12.- Pixies - Where is my mind (4:30) 13.- Ode to joy / Anthem of Europe (4:58) 14.- Harold Fatermeyer - Axel F (5:02) 15.- Ritchie Valens - La bamba (5:06) 16.- The Who - Pinball wizard (version Elthon Jhon) (5:12)
What's scary about this scene is how the composer just tells Sam it's irrelevant if he figures things out. So if you actually do uncover a massive conspiracy or find out a secret society is controlling things, would it really matter in the end? The elitists will keep doing whatever they want and everyone else will ultimately move on with their day to day lives. Those were my thoughts anyway.
You know what would matter? If you'd all just admit this movie was shit. Theres nothing deep about it and this scene is irrelevant to the rest of the movie. How tf are we suppose to know that the main character is so 'rebelious'? Yeah jerkin off and reading kids books so rebelious against the system that guy was lmao GTFOH
As a life-long musician, this scene is HAUNTING. We all know ghost writers are a thing and that's fine, but the idea that one person holds sway over a half century of the pop culture that defined generations would be a terrifying and hollow realization to behold. I was named after Kurt Cobain so this scene hit me like a two ton slab.
@@klyoo2146 he made a lot of songs under the threat of torture, rape and what not. They use technology which he can make the songs with at the cloning center as he explains in the Vinny Eastwood interview
I love how this character seems like this inmortal, all powerful being.... and then pulls out a revolver and dies by getting hit in the head with a guitar
best single spoken word in the whole fucking movie for the exact reason that it can make your mind go in any number of wild, disturbing, furious, terrified directions and we have no way of disproving a single one of them.
That choice is genius. Like ever since 88, just about every artist/wannabe artist must have seen that as one of "their" songs at some point in their life. It's so tangled into so many identities, it's PERFECT to play as this fucker just laughs and tells you it's all really meaningless.
This is one of the most intricate compositions and monologues ever recorded. The man playing piano absolutely kills this scene in every single way possible. Fucking amazing
I cry when this scene hits. There’s something so profound about a movie disregarding itself to tell the audience that everything they stand for is BS and everything they love was just made for a quick buck. The other day I showed this movie to a friend for the first time and I’m proud to say it’s gained another fan. A true cult classic that will hopefully gain more and more appreciation.
I really love Andrew Garfield in this scene. His reactions feel so real to me and tie the whole thing together. The expressions on his face are very genuine but at the same time remind me of horror movie close ups
Brian Mitchell doesn’t have the potential to be great? I think he does. He’s been swinging for the fences since It Follows and (from what I hear) the movies he made before those as well. Once upon a time, people doubted the Coens as well
It is so funny to me that there is a subreddit devoted to decoding this film, particularly because one of the main points of the movie is that looking for patterns in everything and trying to solve conspiracies will just drive you crazy and leave you all alone. I loved it specifically *because* it told me not to solve it.
I can't believe it's taken so long for me to see a comment like this. It's honestly concerning how many people have gone off the deep end into the conspiracies in this film and about the film itself, when that irony is surely the whole point. People need to be better at separating fiction from reality.
But there are genuine secrets to the movie that the subreddit has solved, and apart from that it’s just a place for fans of the movie to discuss it. On a separate note, the movie isn’t about not looking deeper into things, it’s about how people can be manipulated while thinking they’re the ones on the outside, looking in. Sam in the movie is thinking he’s solving something, but he’s being lead along the entire time.
@@ski7301 he did end up solving the mystery of the girl and the conspiracy in hollywood at the end of the film though. but it wasnt what he expected. i dunno
@@skwerl4030 The cult didn’t care if he did that, what they really wanted him to do was kill The Songwriter. That’s because The Songwriter was starting to get unsatisfied with not getting his ascension, and so he wrote the song “Turning Teeth” as a warning to the next person the cult would lead along. That’s why the song has lyrics that relate to everything Sam does in the movie. The original screenplay of this movie had lines that explained it all, but I think the director took those lines out because they took away the mystery. “The Final Man,” which is the cult guy who Sam meets at the end, was supposed to explain to Sam that their ritual needs an “opposer” to work. The opposer is someone who has the possibility of stopping them, so the cult leaves clues for crazy people to find, so that one of those crazy people will play the role of the opposer in their ritual. The Songwriter created messages for them, but wasn’t allowed to have his own bunker, so he tried to get the next opposer (Sam) to be aware, by writing out what would happen. So the movie definitely has a deeper message lol
"There is no rebellion. There's only me earning a paycheck....The real message was not meant for you. So it's better if you just smile and dance and enjoy the melody...Everything that you hoped for, that you dreamed about being a part of is a fabrication. Your art, your writing, your culture is the shell of other men's ambitions. Ambitions you will never understand."
Barry Manilow Lyrics "I Write The Songs" I've been alive forever And I wrote the very first song I put the words and the melodies together I am music And I write the songs I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs My home lies deep within you And I've got my own place in your soul Now when I look out through your eyes I'm young again, even tho' I'm very old I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs Oh, my music makes you dance and gives you spirit to take a chance And I wrote some rock 'n roll so you can move Music fills your heart, well that's a real fine place to start It's from me, it's for you It's from you, it's for me It's a worldwide symphony I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs I write the songs that make the whole world sing I write the songs of love and special things I write the songs that make the young girls cry I write the songs, I write the songs I am music and I write the songs
It's a terribly boring and over-rated film with no point and nothing interesting happens. This scene is the film, you try and find meaning in something that has no substance, you don't know what you like you were just told to like it, brain washed, propagandized. Feel stupid yet?
@@johnholland2825One man's trash is another man's treasure. The thing you love the most could be a used tissue to the guy next to you. Liking something, disliking it, it's what you're told to do. Brainwashed by your own seemingly personal propaganda. Feel stupid yet?
@@johnholland2825People can find meaning in anything at all, it absolutely does not require “substance” for it to be meaningful to people. I’d argue that way of thinking is why so many people are so miserable. They can’t enjoy the little things in life because they’ve been brainwashed into believing everything has to inherently have meaning, even though it is people who give things meaning, not the other way around. Some people find meaning in things like collecting rocks, hiking, and throwing a ball. All are without “substance”, yet they give people that sense of meaning nonetheless. It’s not black and white. And obviously this scene is devastating because it would mean all of those feelings and all of that meaning people placed on these songs (and movies and shows) would be false. However, it doesn’t take away the meaning. That is up to the individual.
Two fantastic moments - when he says, "But you own everything" and it's the only time the old man stops playing to think about it before he says, "naaahh". And when he tells Sam that there isn't a rebellion, only a paycheck as he plays "Smells like teen spirit" and Sam looks down in horror at Kurt Cobain's guitar, which minutes earlier he clutched in deep reverence.
I really didn't enjoy this movie much, but this was one of two standout scenes for me. The entire movie felt pretty Mulholland Drive-y, but this is where the Lynch inspiration was at its best.
This is my favourite movie monologue ever now. I love when he says "It's funny to you?" and the songwriter's like, "Yeah it's kind of funny"... I laughed my ass off during the monologue because it is funny underneath it. All songwriters have their own messages and codes in their art. When he says "The real message was not meant for you... Your culture is the shell of other mens' ambitions, ambitions beyond what you will ever understand." etc... It's completely true. If you write songs you know that a single line in it might have a paragraph's worth of explaination to it, a bunch of context that nobody in the audience is going to understand. In the end, all of that art was for the artist, not the audience. So smile and dance and enjoy the melody.
@@the_quadracorn Oh gosh I'm sure. Evil, the illuminati, freemasonry, the royal families, the ascended masters, lucifer, the king of the world. Who knows who these people really are. That's the point of the scene. There's no way for us to know, they are buried behind so many boogiemen, so many layers of lies. The only people who really know are people we will never know exist. Best me and you can get is when the camera zooms in on the old mans face and he says all of our culture is a farce, a front for something much bigger. Something we will never find out.
@@the_quadracorn Gimme your thoughts. If you think this is really just about artists and how they hide personal meanings in their art, when the point of this scene is that this songwriter is actually the one that writes all of your favorite songs. Seems to imply there is something much bigger than just the ambition of artists. But that a lot of these artists aren't making their own art to begin with. That art is a conduit for something much more insidious. In my estimation this scene proves that the conspiracies this guy thought were real, are real, there's just nothing he can do about it because its much much bigger than him. That's the horror of the film.
ooh look at you, Everything you hoped for; That you dreamed about, being a part of, is Fabrication. Your ART, Your WRITING, Your CULTURE is the shell of other Men's ambitions. Ambitions beyond what you will ever Understand.
Creepy af when he turns to the camera outward to the viewer playing the pixies where is my mind our culture is the shell discarded remnants a distraction while he chases which ever it is eternity or earth is he the devil? Telling you he in human by saying he wrote the songs your grandparents danced to. is this the devil lucifer angel of music and was different to other angels as he wore a suit made of green jem stones hahaa well that's what I got out it it was a great film would love to know how others felt about the plot line and film
Artsy Fartsy yeah but I think I might’ve changed my mind because I like something that feels like my own because then when I run into fans of it your like “Ohh holy crap no way I love that thing!” and it feels way more fun that way idk
Probably too uncomfortable. Unlike Fight Club, there's nothing cool or cathartic about the protagonist. He's trapped in failure, apathy and loneliness. The movie has no meaning except the idea that there is no meaning to anything (culture, love, life...)
such an amazing scene and movie. when it comes out in theaters in the US try to support it guys! bring some friends to a theater! but sadly i think this movie will be a limited release so it might not even open in some smaller cities.
It reminds me of an uncle or a cousin or even a little sister who goes to *extreme* lengths to mess with you. They'll set you up, and gas light you, and play everyone like they couldn't possibly have anything to gain by doing such things --- they couldn't have the time, the patience, the skill, except they totally fucking do and they delight in every minute of it.
@@roxstarz2288 can you please share the big "point" of the movie that everyone knows? Because i just watched a skinny guy fucking, jerkin off and chasing coyotes for 2 hours.. but theres a "point"? Ok bro im calling everyones bluff this is the only decent scene in the movie. Shit movie
@@ianmillerdevilsfan1223 I think the point is it's up to you decide whether it's true or not which is why the movie leaves you with a train of thoughts.
I keep coming back to this scene because it's so dense with hidden information. There is a poster of Led Zeppelin's Mothership album. However, that album is a greatest hits album that wasn't released until 2007 - decades after the songs were written. This makes me wonder if it's a reference to the Heaven's Gate cult who committed mass suicide because they thought the passing of a comet was some sort of alien vessel (Mothership?) that their souls would ascend to. Very thematically similar to the elites entombing themselves for a paradise in afterlife.
is it just me or was the Polaroid photograph computer generated? Look at it when he puts it in his pocket, it seems to jiggle in his hand a little bit. Does it mean that they didn't have that polaroid on the set and just used cgi to fix that mistake or is their a deeper meaning?
I already knew about a few of these things. Like a) most popular music (by many artists) is written by one or two men, iirc a brit and a swede; b) pop culture is like tissue paper meant to be consumed and thrown away and there's just so much of it that it makes perfect cover for intelligence agencies of different kinds to pass messages (and for cultish groups to push ideas or even "magic" subliminals); and c) my entire culture, all of my music, everything I aspired to be as a rebellious teenager, is in fact a shadow or shell of someone else's greater ambitions; ambitions I was not born privy to understand because such people see us as cattle or otherwise NOT in the need to know. Yaddayaddayadda... it's been a fun ride.
Yes, it's all true. Take Sarah McLaughlin for example. There is NO WAY at 29 years old she would have had the esoteric and occult knowledge to write the CD "Surfacing," with Hermetic "As Above So Below" messages and odes to Mystery Babylon like "Building a Mystery," etc. Pearl Jam proved they didn't write crap. They were left on their own on CD #3, Vitalogy, and amazingly, the music turned to crap. Most "hits" do not come from the band.
Hey Matt thats a serious truth drop.... thaks... have you come across Mark Devlin he wrote musical truth 1 & 2 .. hes a uk DJ who does talks exposing the music & film industry for what it is... he's worth checking out ...
All fabricated for us to spend our precious time on .. aimed to push agendas drugs mind control.. there is not an industry untouched by the controllers of this realm .
After watching your video, this was in my feed, and here we all are. Definitely a truth drop. I was thinking about the music, and the thought of everything in waves and frequencies as Tesla would put it, then correlating to what crrow777 the other day about vibrations during the interview with Passio and the Trivium. Powerful stuff
Paul McCartney's bass guitar right next to Cobain's guitar. If I was to guess that resonator guitar belonged to a blues player, probably Robert Johnson. Also, notice the symbolism in this scene. Literally, look at all the _cymbals_ ... director telling you to pay attention. The coyote = trickster The zebra = black and white (masonic duality), also it's camouflage.. hiding in plain sight
This movie is some of the most important analysis to date of the Millenial generation, if you haven't seen it treat yourself to one of the best pictures of the decade.
@Black Ice It's most definitely Millennial. Sam may be enamoured with Xers rock bands and 50s cinema, but isn't that the definition of the Millennial hipster: consuming the cultural achievements of previous generations while creating nothing new and original. Living vicariously through pop culture and pretty much checking out of the real world. Waiting for something to happen in your life like it's a movie, but never setting reachable goals for yourself.
@@sugardaddy4714 the movie was written by an Xer but the cast is millennial. That really threw me when I saw it the first time. I am an Xer who lived in Silver Lake 1999-2005 so I feel qualified to opine a bit here. I loved this movie but this part bothered me. I decided it was part of the whole trip and just went with it. Glad it was brought up here.
most of the "stars" are given their hits, they dont make them, they turn up and play the lead role, the face and the voice, while all the hidden messages in the lyrics and symbolism in the videos reaches millions
pop stars yes but musicians like Cobain and gnr were hand pick because they promoted nihilism anxious but most music since the 50s were written by studio musicians
@@its_meenay I'm saying the System is singular, but portrays itself as separate, competing factions. Corporations=States=NGOs=ISOs. We hear of how much money entertainers make, but they're never given that money free & clear (if it isn't just ballyhoo to legitimize the indusry). They must obey, or their access to that money goes away.
Watched the movie yesterday for the third time. And after 2000 films I've seen, this scene is by far the most horrifying. It scares me so fricking much.
@@Lalo_thr it's the Smells like teen spirit part. when you consider this as the most impactful song of all time it's just terrifying when such a big song is based on a lie. I don't think it's an exaggeration when you say Smells like has shaped the life of so many young people, so for me it's just scary thinking about this. It's like all that what the song is about is fake and so is the impact on a whole generation. just the idea itself scares me lot.
Gus G Mike Williams/Sage of Quay has a 4 hour video on how the Beatles simply couldn't have written the 200+ songs attributed to them. Note the Paul McCartney bass behind Andrew Garfield through most of this scene. Also think about the Seattle scene, what are the chances you'd get all that talent in one place writing all those great songs? Andrew Wood, AIC, Soundgarden, PJ, Nirvana? It's staged, scripted, contrived, a setup. Programming Gen X that it's cool to fail and take opiates, blow your brains out? Then they all slowly off themselves in dubious circumstances over 2 decades. Join the dots dude. Only Eddie 'Reddev' Vedder is left.
Notable that supposedly Cobain wrote "Smells Like Teen Spirit" with the Pixies music in mind. I think he even said he ripped off one of their songs to write it.
What makes this scene phenomenal to me is how the songwriter is acting while he’s sh*tting on everything Andrew Garfield’s character has ever known. Playing the familiar tunes on the piano while doing so is the cherry on top. Curiosity has you wanting him to keep going, but you also want him to stop exposing the facade that is your life
4:29 that fucking part with Pixies's Where's My Mind? and everything gives me a hard feeling of lost hope that is complicated to explain. I fucking love it.
Find myself listening to this scene often just to remind myself of the reality of our world. Why do you think the "songwriter" is talking to the camera and not to the protagonist? He's telling you the truth.
Thats my point exactly. All the conspiracy stuff in this movie is not supposed to let you in on real life conspiracies. That moment, however, when he talks to the audience and not Andrew Garfield, he says that the world we live in is the shell of others ambitions, ambitions we could never understand. Thats the part you're supposed to take literally, indicated by the cinematography. Whether or not there's a big conspiracy, we're just of bunch of loser assholes because we aren't part of the in-club at the Hollywood Ivory Tower. There's literally nothing we can do about it, and they have no investment in us at all.
@@jadeandjesse5908 who tf wants to be in Hollywood ? Like I don’t get it Just bc we are not famous celebrities dossent mean our life isn’t important That’s not even the point of life This earth is like a dot in the vast space filled with millions of universes and galaxies Who cares if ur in Hollywood inside a dot There’s more to life bro
@@jadeandjesse5908 "theres literally nothing we can do about it." charles manson and mark david chapman proved that wrong. manson was a man elevated to legend among the hollywood mythos because of the fear he inspired.
I love this movie, the layers, the scope, the pathos. To me, this movie is as good as what people always told me Donnie Darko was, even though I didn't care for DD
This has a very crossroads macabre feel to it likes hes talking to the devil the way the old mans rude and he seemlessy transitions through all the songs easily or all his knowledge of specific artists
I think the old man is supposed to represent psychological ops such as tavisock but also we heard him playing ode to joy which means he has been alive for 500 years satin maybe?
To everyone saying this movie sucks: ...and yet here we are discussing it. -Great art is rarely a pleasant and uplifting experience, sometimes it jabs you straight in the heart
0:23 ? 0:50 - Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne - ruclips.net/video/RMR5zf1J1Hs/видео.html 1:19 - I Want It That Way - BSB - ruclips.net/video/4fndeDfaWCg/видео.html 1:30 - Where Everybody Knows Your Name - Gary Portnay - ruclips.net/video/xYcX534JqG4/видео.html 1:50 - I want To Know What Love Is - Foreigner - ruclips.net/video/raNGeq3_DtM/видео.html 2:08 - In a gadda da vida - Iron Butterfly - ruclips.net/video/UIVe-rZBcm4/видео.html 2:33 - Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine?) · Marvin Berry - ruclips.net/video/HFVYbiJBMCI/видео.html 2:55 - ? 3:13 - Smell Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana - ruclips.net/video/hTWKbfoikeg/видео.html 3:51 - Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - ruclips.net/video/vCadcBR95oU/видео.html 4:06 - I Love Rock'n'Roll - Joan Jett - ruclips.net/video/iC8oP4Z_xPw/видео.html 4:30 - Where Is My Mind - Pixies - ruclips.net/video/5iC0YXspJRM/видео.html 4:59 - Ode To Joy - Beethoven - ruclips.net/video/8nGhHL6Dhok/видео.html 5:02 - Crazy Frog - Axel F - ruclips.net/video/k85mRPqvMbE/видео.html 5:06 - La Bamba - ruclips.net/video/Coy8Hoa1DNw/видео.html 5:13 - Pinball Wizard - Elton John - ruclips.net/video/joxyFDmh_LY/видео.html
SPOILERS! If you want the mystery of this film to remain, stop reading now! Unfortunately, I think Mike (Red Letter Media, since I know a lot of people were brought here due to their review) is wrong - even though he’s allowed to be right - about Spider-Man being The Dog Killer. The thing is, I don't think there really is a dog killer, and if there is, we’ll never understand what it means. 2 of the film’s main themes are 1) Question everything and 2) What do things actually mean? The problem is we’ll never fully get to understand any of this, because we’re not apart of the elite that rule over us. As The Songwriter said about the messages within the songs, "They're not for us." The few times we hear about dogs are 1) When the only dog that really died was in the car accident of Jefferson Sevens; 2) When the prostitute tells Spider-Man that she once saw Sarah (the girl he's searching for) in "shitty performance art, dressed as a dalmatian, as old men were surrounding her; and most importantly 3) When Spider-Man sees Women, and only Women (even when it's a man dressed as Sarah in his dream) barking back at him. So let's break it down. One of the first times we hear about dogs is when the only dog that actually died, was the dog in the car accident with Jefferson Sevens. Does that mean each rich elite must find a girl with a dog, and then have it "killed" with them? I don't know, and I will never know, because these codes are not meant for me. The second time is when the pro is talking about Sarah dressed as a dalmatian, while surrounded by the rich elite. This reinforces the idea that these words or signs are not meant for our understanding, and everything is reduced to something meaning something else, which leads us to reason 3. The reason why Spider-Man sees women barking at him, is that that's what they've been reduced to. Not just an animal, but an image, or object, which is represented through codes, such as "Beware The Dog Killer", which is controlled by the elites. We could argue all day that there really is a dog killer, or there isn't a dog killer, and all of the "missing dog" signs placed out in the streets, are just more codes or deflections to keep interested parties, like The Comic Artist, confused. You might say, "What about The Bird Woman? He was right about her?" Well, was he? This is Hollywood! How do we know the elites didn't kill him, and then stage some women dressed as a bird to appear on his tapes, so if the cops ever look into it, it's another dead end, or assume it's some kink he was into? We, the public, will never know. Now, this is where the film gets really fun, because it's not just the women that have been reduced to objects, but everyone following Hollywood's - and possibly/probably the rest of the worlds - footsteps. The Songwriter explains it perfectly. "I don't care what's cool or hip. It's all meaningless, and it's not meant for you. Your art, your writing, are all apart of rich men's ambitions you will NEVER understand." The movie is taking a jab at THE IDEA of hipsters, and their lack of authenticity. Kids, 18-35, drowning in pastiche or nostalgia for the sake of it, and not having any meaning attached to it, simply because it seems "cool." The scene on the rooftop, where the girl is performing her balloon performance art is a perfect example. All of the hipsters watching her, as if it's something amazing, yet if you were to ask them what it meant, they couldn't or wouldn't tell you, because it has no meaning. In the film, and to some philosophers, we have all become confused objects, bundled in meanings that we will never be able to unscramble or truly understand. And THAT is what Under The Silverlake is about, & why I consider it one of my favorite horror films. When the truth is found to be lies by the white music man, then what?
@@flynnjaman you say the message of the movie is question everything but no one in comments are asking why is this movie so stupid? Why is this movie pointless? Why did i i just waste 2 hours watching porn for idiots?
The man who played This old man deserves an award. The whole idea that even when the elites are killed it doesn't matter because their messages and legacy and craft lives on is one of the most sobering and terrifying things put to cinema. You can stop one, but another will take their place, and another and another. Big wheels keep on turning, and Proud Mary keeps on burning. The entirety of Hollywood rolling on a river. Or better put, resting like a lily pad on a silver lake of immeasurable wealth and talent.
To me, it's not that someone handed these stars their hits, but rather the labels took well meaning artists and exploited them to the point where their inner most feelings were made for the masses. The Songwriter represents the labels, not the actual artists, because without them, those songs that fueled boomer/gen x/millennials lives would've never surfaced in such a big way. You could argue that the Songwriter is just blatantly lying, taking credit for the writing when all he did was put the pieces in the right place. It's a far more devious plan if it played out like that. That being said, he does have a point in that so many people live through art instead of heir own experiences. They hide behind someone else's pain to process their own. He's right in saying "the message was never for you". He just made it seem that way because money.
It's true...either it is written by a machine or one person for a long time, decades. The same lines can be found in different songs and genres like county, all rock, pop, and motown even. Example: google the number 1000 and see how many songs come up. There are numerous examples if you HEAR the lyrics or just read them.
the best thing about this scene is that is kinda accurate. most of the most popular songs from since late 70's had their instrumentals composed by like 5~6 composers, i doesnt mean these musicians work were all made by them, is just a couple of ones, most became their biggest hits, and most of these composers are based in california. the lyricists vary more tho
i love this scene because The Songwriter is such this immense and powerful figure compared to sam, and by extension the audience. he's claiming he wrote Ode to Joy, for god's sake. but in all reality, he's just a stooge. he's not one of the elite, he's not like sevence, like the pirate, anyone out there. we first think jesus is some sort of bad guy, but he's just another stooge to The Songwriter, and i wouldn't be surprised if there's more people hiding behind others above this guy. he's just one finger of a horrifying machine.
@@JMS849 dude, genuine question, what has this movie done to you to the point where you've been shitting on it constantly for almost a year now? do you hate it THAT much?
Even the iconic purported songwriting partnership of John Lennon and Paul Mccartney is mostly just another part of what Lennon himself often referred to as "the Beatles myth." Davey Jones said that the Beatles - - not The Monkees - - were the first manufactured rock band, and Quincy Jones called them "no-playing motherfuckers." (Prior to the Sgt. Pepper's album and the replacement of original Paul in 1966, session musicians who remained anonymous were used extensively on their albums as was the conventional practice in the recording industry.) On his Sage of Quay and Paul Is Dead RUclips channels, independent/alternative researcher Mike Williams posted an eye-opening in-depth presentation questioning whether or not the Beatles wrote all of their own music and actually played the instruments on all of their recorded songs, and he convincingly demonstrates it is a near impossibility in light of known facts that Lennon and McCartney could have ever written and fully recorded all of the songs credited to them under the circumstances and time constraints of the official Beatles narrative.
Reminds me of the Malik guy who rewrote all the Beat-Less repertoire and fooled the world claiming this fact as if it was his own creation. For those who have listened demos by the 4 fabs may notice that their songs were very different from the recorded/edited versions of the albums we all know...
@@tadzbahal4841 The system is self revealing. They are controlling us via all forms of media songs,movies etc. The Beatles or whoever (insert any famous musician here) didnt write those songs they were given to them. Everyone you see on the world stage is just an actor, a front man including every politician. Everyone taking their orders. You got lies on the news and truth in movies. All fake everything upside down. Their symbols and numbers give them away. Look into gematria and numerology. For some reason they have to reveal the truth to us and they do it with movies like this one where everybody thinks its just fiction about a guy wiith paranoia but its actually the truth.
@@TheStonedCruiser you have well understood the movie, but maybe got a little too far for thinking it is the exactly the situation in the real world. I appreciate your effort to write such a long comment though.
0.- ¿? (0:00)
1.- Gary Numan - Gymnopedies (First Movement) (0:15)
2.- Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy train (0:48)
3.- Backstreet Boys - I want it that way (1:08)
4.- Gary Portnay - Where everybody knows your name (1:30)
5.- Foreigner - I want to know what love is (1:54)
6.- Iron Butterfly - In a gadda da vida (2:06)
7.- The Pinguins- Earth angel (2:23)
8.- ¿? (2:55)
9.- Nirvana - Smell like teen spirit (3:13)
10.- Salt'n'Peppa - Push it (3:51)
11.- Joan Jett - I love rock'n'roll (4:05)
12.- Pixies - Where is my mind (4:30)
13.- Ode to joy / Anthem of Europe (4:58)
14.- Harold Fatermeyer - Axel F (5:02)
15.- Ritchie Valens - La bamba (5:06)
16.- The Who - Pinball wizard (version Elthon Jhon) (5:12)
The one at 0:15 is Gymnopedies (First Movement).
Matt says, 'Hi!' ruclips.net/video/uaM0yiz3MQE/видео.html
I think the one at 2:23 is The Penguins - Earth Angel
@@quantumflux1564 not “Someone to watch over me” ?
Thank you so much
What's scary about this scene is how the composer just tells Sam it's irrelevant if he figures things out. So if you actually do uncover a massive conspiracy or find out a secret society is controlling things, would it really matter in the end? The elitists will keep doing whatever they want and everyone else will ultimately move on with their day to day lives. Those were my thoughts anyway.
Ikr
that’s what they want you to think. they want you to forget that they’re nothing without you. what’s a chess board without its pieces to play with.
"Move on with their day to day lives"?
Yeah, those idiots who think that's going to continue will sure be in for a nasty surprise...
You know what would matter? If you'd all just admit this movie was shit. Theres nothing deep about it and this scene is irrelevant to the rest of the movie. How tf are we suppose to know that the main character is so 'rebelious'? Yeah jerkin off and reading kids books so rebelious against the system that guy was lmao GTFOH
@@JMS849 u literally replying to every single comment on this video. we get it you don’t like the movie. you don’t need to rant about it lol
He found the 4 Chords guy
🤣🤣
As a life-long musician, this scene is HAUNTING. We all know ghost writers are a thing and that's fine, but the idea that one person holds sway over a half century of the pop culture that defined generations would be a terrifying and hollow realization to behold. I was named after Kurt Cobain so this scene hit me like a two ton slab.
Smokey Robinson
Donald Marshall did make a lot of the hit songs you still hear today. This movie is a reference to him
Donald Marshall IS that guy supposedly.
@@klyoo2146 he made a lot of songs under the threat of torture, rape and what not. They use technology which he can make the songs with at the cloning center as he explains in the Vinny Eastwood interview
@@klyoo2146who is this guy ??
This movie will be a cult classic. Just wait.
Don't have to. It already is. ;)
Instant cult classic just like Donnie Darko
Hoovy Tube I just watched the film and I just hope it will become a cult classic
Mimi Salajan but actually good
Just like The Big Lebowski right
This dude writing WAP.
@Терор underrated reply
Still better than whoever wrote this piece of shit movie
@Терор I hope the film died with him too. Wtf even was this movie
@@JMS849 👎
@@hiimfromdimension4208 👍
That scene really ties the film together.
Forget it donny you're out of your element
Bruh this had nothing to do with the plot but it's still the best part of the movie
Fuckin' A
Obviously, you're not a golfer ...
abides
I love how this character seems like this inmortal, all powerful being.... and then pulls out a revolver and dies by getting hit in the head with a guitar
Efectivamente es cine 🚬
😂😂😂😂
You must’ve forgot that movie with Denzel. When the person dies, but the spirit bounces to a new host…
Wow, legit goosebumps at 4:30 when he starts playing the Pixies.
Way out in the water, see it swimming?
It physically hurt and I felt insulted when I heard that come on.
@@zippolighter0177 leave, dude.
@@lukess.s ??
@@zippolighter0177 i think i get ya. Like in the sense as if you were the main character having your reality shattered as so?
"The real message was not meant for you, so its better if you just smile, and you dance, and you enjoy the melody"
deadbutdreaming please tell me how I can find out about whatever you’re talking about
Payton Gutierrez Research Jesus Christ.
deadbutdreaming yes, with your pinch of salt of course
deadbutdreaming don’t be a bitch, repost it
deadbutdreaming you’ll upload a video telling people they’re in hell but won’t summarize that claim in a comment?
But you have everything
“...No.”
He sold his soul
He wants the world, he wants to defeat and replace God.
best single spoken word in the whole fucking movie for the exact reason that it can make your mind go in any number of wild, disturbing, furious, terrified directions and we have no way of disproving a single one of them.
@@dirtnbloodnotherkids he wants to eat the whole cake
probably another song that he wrote
"borgore - decisions"
maybe simply a lost love, since the next sentence coming from Andrew is kind of on the same topic after the blank in the conversation
Loved this scene, a real classic.
I always get chills when he plays “where is my mind”. What an underrated film
*Overrated
@@JMS849 Literally almost no one talks about so lol no
@@loganwendigo937 yeah and its STILL overrated. Thats how bad it is
@Randy White no. Its not ok
@Randy White actuwlly bro, its not ok.
Shit got even deeper when Where Is My Mind started playing
I get chills everytime.
I cried
That choice is genius. Like ever since 88, just about every artist/wannabe artist must have seen that as one of "their" songs at some point in their life. It's so tangled into so many identities, it's PERFECT to play as this fucker just laughs and tells you it's all really meaningless.
That songs use in fight club really hits hard under this context
It's not hard to get "EVEN DEEPER" when the movies not deep at all to begin with.
This is one of the most intricate compositions and monologues ever recorded. The man playing piano absolutely kills this scene in every single way possible. Fucking amazing
I cry when this scene hits. There’s something so profound about a movie disregarding itself to tell the audience that everything they stand for is BS and everything they love was just made for a quick buck. The other day I showed this movie to a friend for the first time and I’m proud to say it’s gained another fan. A true cult classic that will hopefully gain more and more appreciation.
Give up the hard drugs bro you cried over a trash movie
I really love Andrew Garfield in this scene. His reactions feel so real to me and tie the whole thing together. The expressions on his face are very genuine but at the same time remind me of horror movie close ups
Yess Andrew is so sadly underrated
I always thought he was doing tons of cocaine while shooting this movie. His face expressions are so odd.
@@juanignacioestevez1325 he doesn't do that shit
His mouth is just hanging open the entire time... You are the reason we can't have good actors any more.
@@Avelanche says a none actor. Andrew has more talent in his left ass cheek then you troll
This scene feels like Charlie Kaufman or Coen Brothers level writing. Absolutely genius. Bravo!
Bruh those are the best screenwriters, idk if Mitchell is quite on their level
Brian Mitchell doesn’t have the potential to be great? I think he does. He’s been swinging for the fences since It Follows and (from what I hear) the movies he made before those as well. Once upon a time, people doubted the Coens as well
Kaufmann yeah but the Coens are way more different. The films from them doesn't have much symbolism like the Kaufmann or Mitchell movies.
Ok but the rest of the movie look like my 8 year old nephews writing.
@@blakcinephile if he wrote this movie then he might have the potential to write shitty kids book about serial dog killers? Thats about it.
It is so funny to me that there is a subreddit devoted to decoding this film, particularly because one of the main points of the movie is that looking for patterns in everything and trying to solve conspiracies will just drive you crazy and leave you all alone. I loved it specifically *because* it told me not to solve it.
I can't believe it's taken so long for me to see a comment like this. It's honestly concerning how many people have gone off the deep end into the conspiracies in this film and about the film itself, when that irony is surely the whole point. People need to be better at separating fiction from reality.
But there are genuine secrets to the movie that the subreddit has solved, and apart from that it’s just a place for fans of the movie to discuss it.
On a separate note, the movie isn’t about not looking deeper into things, it’s about how people can be manipulated while thinking they’re the ones on the outside, looking in. Sam in the movie is thinking he’s solving something, but he’s being lead along the entire time.
@@ski7301 he did end up solving the mystery of the girl and the conspiracy in hollywood at the end of the film though.
but it wasnt what he expected.
i dunno
@@skwerl4030 The cult didn’t care if he did that, what they really wanted him to do was kill The Songwriter. That’s because The Songwriter was starting to get unsatisfied with not getting his ascension, and so he wrote the song “Turning Teeth” as a warning to the next person the cult would lead along. That’s why the song has lyrics that relate to everything Sam does in the movie. The original screenplay of this movie had lines that explained it all, but I think the director took those lines out because they took away the mystery. “The Final Man,” which is the cult guy who Sam meets at the end, was supposed to explain to Sam that their ritual needs an “opposer” to work. The opposer is someone who has the possibility of stopping them, so the cult leaves clues for crazy people to find, so that one of those crazy people will play the role of the opposer in their ritual. The Songwriter created messages for them, but wasn’t allowed to have his own bunker, so he tried to get the next opposer (Sam) to be aware, by writing out what would happen.
So the movie definitely has a deeper message lol
@@ski7301 the writer of the script is a genius. Or knows how business in Hollywood works...
This vid should have like a million views. 2 bad this movie aint that popular
Bliss
It wasn't released in theaters so it didnt get any advertising
Edit: except for one trailer
It'll probably become a cult film over time.
It will be.
Probably because it's a pretentious bad film?
"There is no rebellion. There's only me earning a paycheck....The real message was not meant for you. So it's better if you just smile and dance and enjoy the melody...Everything that you hoped for, that you dreamed about being a part of is a fabrication. Your art, your writing, your culture is the shell of other men's ambitions. Ambitions you will never understand."
Shoot me why don't ya!
wow
its like he's talking to the devil or something, really well done scene.
he really are
Just what I thought.
He really is
He is
Thats what it is but the masses are too attached to their desires to understand when they are being mocked by their enemy.
Barry Manilow Lyrics
"I Write The Songs"
I've been alive forever
And I wrote the very first song
I put the words and the melodies together
I am music
And I write the songs
I write the songs that make the whole world sing
I write the songs of love and special things
I write the songs that make the young girls cry
I write the songs, I write the songs
My home lies deep within you
And I've got my own place in your soul
Now when I look out through your eyes
I'm young again, even tho' I'm very old
I write the songs that make the whole world sing
I write the songs of love and special things
I write the songs that make the young girls cry
I write the songs, I write the songs
Oh, my music makes you dance and gives you spirit to take a chance
And I wrote some rock 'n roll so you can move
Music fills your heart, well that's a real fine place to start
It's from me, it's for you
It's from you, it's for me
It's a worldwide symphony
I write the songs that make the whole world sing
I write the songs of love and special things
I write the songs that make the young girls cry
I write the songs, I write the songs
I write the songs that make the whole world sing
I write the songs of love and special things
I write the songs that make the young girls cry
I write the songs, I write the songs
I am music and I write the songs
Barry Manilow is a confirmed satanist.
"You already have everything"
"No..."
He does not have a soul
i believe it's the love of his father that he never had.. which in turn, would render you soulless.
@@bradbellicose1828 how u came to that conclusion?
@@bradbellicose1828 More like he traded it.
or a foreskin xD
@@Afflictamine Seems to go hand in hand.
This movie is beyond a masterpiece, and this scene is a masterpiece in its own right.
It's a terribly boring and over-rated film with no point and nothing interesting happens. This scene is the film, you try and find meaning in something that has no substance, you don't know what you like you were just told to like it, brain washed, propagandized. Feel stupid yet?
@@johnholland2825One man's trash is another man's treasure. The thing you love the most could be a used tissue to the guy next to you. Liking something, disliking it, it's what you're told to do. Brainwashed by your own seemingly personal propaganda.
Feel stupid yet?
@@johnholland2825 "People with different taste to me have been brainwashed by propaganda". Take meds retard.
@@johnholland2825People can find meaning in anything at all, it absolutely does not require “substance” for it to be meaningful to people.
I’d argue that way of thinking is why so many people are so miserable. They can’t enjoy the little things in life because they’ve been brainwashed into believing everything has to inherently have meaning, even though it is people who give things meaning, not the other way around.
Some people find meaning in things like collecting rocks, hiking, and throwing a ball.
All are without “substance”, yet they give people that sense of meaning nonetheless.
It’s not black and white. And obviously this scene is devastating because it would mean all of those feelings and all of that meaning people placed on these songs (and movies and shows) would be false. However, it doesn’t take away the meaning. That is up to the individual.
This quiet thing that he plays during his silence after 2:13 is wonderful.
Two fantastic moments - when he says, "But you own everything" and it's the only time the old man stops playing to think about it before he says, "naaahh". And when he tells Sam that there isn't a rebellion, only a paycheck as he plays "Smells like teen spirit" and Sam looks down in horror at Kurt Cobain's guitar, which minutes earlier he clutched in deep reverence.
my first thought was he doesn't have a soul
I really didn't enjoy this movie much, but this was one of two standout scenes for me. The entire movie felt pretty Mulholland Drive-y, but this is where the Lynch inspiration was at its best.
This is my favourite movie monologue ever now. I love when he says "It's funny to you?" and the songwriter's like, "Yeah it's kind of funny"... I laughed my ass off during the monologue because it is funny underneath it. All songwriters have their own messages and codes in their art. When he says "The real message was not meant for you... Your culture is the shell of other mens' ambitions, ambitions beyond what you will ever understand." etc... It's completely true. If you write songs you know that a single line in it might have a paragraph's worth of explaination to it, a bunch of context that nobody in the audience is going to understand. In the end, all of that art was for the artist, not the audience. So smile and dance and enjoy the melody.
He's talkin about freemasonry and occultism, but close enough.
@@MrBattlestar10 lol no. It's not so trite or basic as that.
@@the_quadracorn Oh gosh I'm sure. Evil, the illuminati, freemasonry, the royal families, the ascended masters, lucifer, the king of the world. Who knows who these people really are. That's the point of the scene. There's no way for us to know, they are buried behind so many boogiemen, so many layers of lies. The only people who really know are people we will never know exist.
Best me and you can get is when the camera zooms in on the old mans face and he says all of our culture is a farce, a front for something much bigger. Something we will never find out.
@@MrBattlestar10 I don't think it's about any of that at all. Like at all. I think the fact that you think it is about that is proving his point.
@@the_quadracorn Gimme your thoughts. If you think this is really just about artists and how they hide personal meanings in their art, when the point of this scene is that this songwriter is actually the one that writes all of your favorite songs. Seems to imply there is something much bigger than just the ambition of artists. But that a lot of these artists aren't making their own art to begin with. That art is a conduit for something much more insidious. In my estimation this scene proves that the conspiracies this guy thought were real, are real, there's just nothing he can do about it because its much much bigger than him. That's the horror of the film.
ooh look at you, Everything you hoped for; That you dreamed about, being a part of, is Fabrication.
Your ART, Your WRITING, Your CULTURE is the shell of other Men's ambitions. Ambitions beyond what you will ever Understand.
That scene is pure genius. watched the film yesterday and came back for this 4 times now
It showed the music industry behind the scenes.
yep ruclips.net/video/ccEhmQ0M4FY/видео.html
In all of this amazing scene...my favorite part just might be Andrew Garfield popping his head up from behind the amp and screaming real quick.
...the bullet hitting the gong is a nice touch...
Just turned on the TV, it was on Showtime, this movie, specifically the park where Andrew Garfield is putting the screws to that blond.... I tuned in
your new favorite part is how the Piano Man continues playing while shooting and reloading
They literally put it right in our faces to mock us
Not to mock us but to tell us
Creepy af when he turns to the camera outward to the viewer playing the pixies where is my mind our culture is the shell discarded remnants a distraction while he chases which ever it is eternity or earth is he the devil? Telling you he in human by saying he wrote the songs your grandparents danced to. is this the devil lucifer angel of music and was different to other angels as he wore a suit made of green jem stones hahaa well that's what I got out it it was a great film would love to know how others felt about the plot line and film
No, it just means the people who made this movie read the same websites and books we all do.
@@naturesquad9174 They allowed it to be made! Think about it for a moment.
Tavistock.
He only stops playing when he says "Well you have everything", that's the only thing that garfield said to the songwriter that was impactful to him
the Pixies part really hurt me
A little nod to "Fight Club", methinks.
@@mattgilbert7347 or Mr. Robot
@@gottalight9379 or to the Pixies lol
Good. This whole trash movie hurt me and wasted my time.
Yea to talk mkre shit about it. Not to watch it
I wish this movie had a bigger following
I feel like it might have some time in the future. Like how Fight Club and Donnie Darko weren't popular at first but eventually gained a following.
Artsy Fartsy yeah but I think I might’ve changed my mind because I like something that feels like my own because then when I run into fans of it your like “Ohh holy crap no way I love that thing!” and it feels way more fun that way idk
Probably too uncomfortable. Unlike Fight Club, there's nothing cool or cathartic about the protagonist. He's trapped in failure, apathy and loneliness. The movie has no meaning except the idea that there is no meaning to anything (culture, love, life...)
It does they're called the mentally disabled.
@@sugardaddy4714 exactly bro. This movie was about a weirdo being a weirdo. Nothing deep at all
I love this film so much
I've watched this scene hundreds of times!!
Does this guy do birthday parties?
You better have millions in your pocket cause this old man isn't cheap
under the silver lake has gotta be one of the most criminally underrated movies of all time, literally no one i know has ever seen or heard of it 😐
I disagree. Even tho no one cares about it i think it's still overrated. Trash af
such an amazing scene and movie. when it comes out in theaters in the US try to support it guys! bring some friends to a theater! but sadly i think this movie will be a limited release so it might not even open in some smaller cities.
I see what you’re saying, but I was highly underwhelmed by the end of it.
understandable
I would’ve supported this movie but they only opened it in two theaters not even joking
@@cake6363 yeah, and its fucking tragic.
This movie is porn for retards. Whats so amazing about it huh?
This scene is 100% true. Hollywood does shit like this. They tell the truth but make it so ridiculous that you don't believe it.
You missed the whole point of the movie…
@@40mmmm23 i think you missed it twat
It reminds me of an uncle or a cousin or even a little sister who goes to *extreme* lengths to mess with you. They'll set you up, and gas light you, and play everyone like they couldn't possibly have anything to gain by doing such things --- they couldn't have the time, the patience, the skill, except they totally fucking do and they delight in every minute of it.
@@roxstarz2288 can you please share the big "point" of the movie that everyone knows? Because i just watched a skinny guy fucking, jerkin off and chasing coyotes for 2 hours.. but theres a "point"? Ok bro im calling everyones bluff this is the only decent scene in the movie. Shit movie
@@ianmillerdevilsfan1223 I think the point is it's up to you decide whether it's true or not which is why the movie leaves you with a train of thoughts.
I keep coming back to this scene because it's so dense with hidden information. There is a poster of Led Zeppelin's Mothership album. However, that album is a greatest hits album that wasn't released until 2007 - decades after the songs were written. This makes me wonder if it's a reference to the Heaven's Gate cult who committed mass suicide because they thought the passing of a comet was some sort of alien vessel (Mothership?) that their souls would ascend to. Very thematically similar to the elites entombing themselves for a paradise in afterlife.
2:33 THE PROM SCENE FROM BACK TO THE FUTURE. THE GUITAR, THE POLAROID PHOTOGRAPH, THE HAND (THAT STARTS TO DISAPPEAR), ITS ALL THERE IN THE SHOT.
Bruh, thanks
@deadbutdreaming "life is a joke" ... didn't think it would be a butt joke
what?
is it just me or was the Polaroid photograph computer generated? Look at it when he puts it in his pocket, it seems to jiggle in his hand a little bit. Does it mean that they didn't have that polaroid on the set and just used cgi to fix that mistake or is their a deeper meaning?
@@aldown ruclips.net/video/vPrPfkT82Pw/видео.html
I already knew about a few of these things. Like a) most popular music (by many artists) is written by one or two men, iirc a brit and a swede; b) pop culture is like tissue paper meant to be consumed and thrown away and there's just so much of it that it makes perfect cover for intelligence agencies of different kinds to pass messages (and for cultish groups to push ideas or even "magic" subliminals); and c) my entire culture, all of my music, everything I aspired to be as a rebellious teenager, is in fact a shadow or shell of someone else's greater ambitions; ambitions I was not born privy to understand because such people see us as cattle or otherwise NOT in the need to know. Yaddayaddayadda... it's been a fun ride.
Hands down BEST scene in the entire film!!
There other scenes that were bearable to watch?
Yes, it's all true. Take Sarah McLaughlin for example. There is NO WAY at 29 years old she would have had the esoteric and occult knowledge to write the CD "Surfacing," with Hermetic "As Above So Below" messages and odes to Mystery Babylon like "Building a Mystery," etc. Pearl Jam proved they didn't write crap. They were left on their own on CD #3, Vitalogy, and amazingly, the music turned to crap. Most "hits" do not come from the band.
Hey Matt thats a serious truth drop.... thaks... have you come across Mark Devlin he wrote musical truth 1 & 2 .. hes a uk DJ who does talks exposing the music & film industry for what it is... he's worth checking out ...
All fabricated for us to spend our precious time on .. aimed to push agendas drugs mind control.. there is not an industry untouched by the controllers of this realm .
Hey Matt thanks for introducing this movie to me! I definitely agree with the points you made. Cheers brother
Yes exactly my train of thought about Modern English "Melt With You"...no way a 20 year old could have come up with the lyrics...
After watching your video, this was in my feed, and here we all are. Definitely a truth drop. I was thinking about the music, and the thought of everything in waves and frequencies as Tesla would put it, then correlating to what crrow777 the other day about vibrations during the interview with Passio and the Trivium. Powerful stuff
Greatest movie scene I can remember.
Paul McCartney's bass guitar right next to Cobain's guitar. If I was to guess that resonator guitar belonged to a blues player, probably Robert Johnson.
Also, notice the symbolism in this scene. Literally, look at all the _cymbals_ ... director telling you to pay attention.
The coyote = trickster
The zebra = black and white (masonic duality), also it's camouflage.. hiding in plain sight
ruclips.net/video/ccEhmQ0M4FY/видео.html
this is one of the best scenes of any movie ever
This movie is some of the most important analysis to date of the Millenial generation, if you haven't seen it treat yourself to one of the best pictures of the decade.
Except this applies to every generation since the birth of popular culture
Ok boomer.
"I'm the voice of your generation, your grandparents, your parents, and all the young people that follow you."
@Black Ice It's most definitely Millennial. Sam may be enamoured with Xers rock bands and 50s cinema, but isn't that the definition of the Millennial hipster: consuming the cultural achievements of previous generations while creating nothing new and original. Living vicariously through pop culture and pretty much checking out of the real world. Waiting for something to happen in your life like it's a movie, but never setting reachable goals for yourself.
@@sugardaddy4714 the movie was written by an Xer but the cast is millennial. That really threw me when I saw it the first time. I am an Xer who lived in Silver Lake 1999-2005 so I feel qualified to opine a bit here. I loved this movie but this part bothered me. I decided it was part of the whole trip and just went with it. Glad it was brought up here.
most of the "stars" are given their hits, they dont make them, they turn up and play the lead role, the face and the voice, while all the hidden messages in the lyrics and symbolism in the videos reaches millions
pop stars yes but musicians like Cobain and gnr were hand pick because they promoted nihilism anxious but most music since the 50s were written by studio musicians
Yes the tavistock institute
Same with CEOs like Musk and Bezos.
@@stephenroot7439 can you explain
@@its_meenay I'm saying the System is singular, but portrays itself as separate, competing factions.
Corporations=States=NGOs=ISOs. We hear of how much money entertainers make, but they're never given that money free & clear (if it isn't just ballyhoo to legitimize the indusry). They must obey, or their access to that money goes away.
Watched the movie yesterday for the third time. And after 2000 films I've seen, this scene is by far the most horrifying. It scares me so fricking much.
what about it scares you so much?
@@Lalo_thr it's the Smells like teen spirit part. when you consider this as the most impactful song of all time it's just terrifying when such a big song is based on a lie. I don't think it's an exaggeration when you say Smells like has shaped the life of so many young people, so for me it's just scary thinking about this. It's like all that what the song is about is fake and so is the impact on a whole generation. just the idea itself scares me lot.
Gus G Mike Williams/Sage of Quay has a 4 hour video on how the Beatles simply couldn't have written the 200+ songs attributed to them. Note the Paul McCartney bass behind Andrew Garfield through most of this scene. Also think about the Seattle scene, what are the chances you'd get all that talent in one place writing all those great songs? Andrew Wood, AIC, Soundgarden, PJ, Nirvana? It's staged, scripted, contrived, a setup. Programming Gen X that it's cool to fail and take opiates, blow your brains out? Then they all slowly off themselves in dubious circumstances over 2 decades. Join the dots dude. Only Eddie 'Reddev' Vedder is left.
Notable that supposedly Cobain wrote "Smells Like Teen Spirit" with the Pixies music in mind. I think he even said he ripped off one of their songs to write it.
Damn you watched this trashcan of a movie 3 times? T
Stay off the meth bro good luck 💯
What makes this scene phenomenal to me is how the songwriter is acting while he’s sh*tting on everything Andrew Garfield’s character has ever known. Playing the familiar tunes on the piano while doing so is the cherry on top. Curiosity has you wanting him to keep going, but you also want him to stop exposing the facade that is your life
Thats the best scene in the movie
4:29 that fucking part with Pixies's Where's My Mind? and everything gives me a hard feeling of lost hope that is complicated to explain.
I fucking love it.
Find myself listening to this scene often just to remind myself of the reality of our world. Why do you think the "songwriter" is talking to the camera and not to the protagonist? He's telling you the truth.
11O% correct! Six-pointed star is a seal of Solomon and the star of Saturn old man father of time and death and judgement
Thats my point exactly. All the conspiracy stuff in this movie is not supposed to let you in on real life conspiracies. That moment, however, when he talks to the audience and not Andrew Garfield, he says that the world we live in is the shell of others ambitions, ambitions we could never understand. Thats the part you're supposed to take literally, indicated by the cinematography. Whether or not there's a big conspiracy, we're just of bunch of loser assholes because we aren't part of the in-club at the Hollywood Ivory Tower. There's literally nothing we can do about it, and they have no investment in us at all.
@@jadeandjesse5908 who tf wants to be in Hollywood ? Like I don’t get it
Just bc we are not famous celebrities dossent mean our life isn’t important
That’s not even the point of life
This earth is like a dot in the vast space filled with millions of universes and galaxies
Who cares if ur in Hollywood inside a dot
There’s more to life bro
All I see when he looked in the camera is his eyes saying " I hope to God I never have to play in such a retarded movie again. Jeses help me."
@@jadeandjesse5908 "theres literally nothing we can do about it." charles manson and mark david chapman proved that wrong. manson was a man elevated to legend among the hollywood mythos because of the fear he inspired.
This movie was so great, and this scene is just incredible !
We need some Piano-RUclipsr to play all the songs with the same tuning of this scene in full length
Yes
This is my new favorite movie. Blew my socks off
I love this movie, the layers, the scope, the pathos. To me, this movie is as good as what people always told me Donnie Darko was, even though I didn't care for DD
i cant stop thinking about this film
This has a very crossroads macabre feel to it likes hes talking to the devil the way the old mans rude and he seemlessy transitions through all the songs easily or all his knowledge of specific artists
I think the old man is supposed to represent psychological ops such as tavisock but also we heard him playing ode to joy which means he has been alive for 500 years satin maybe?
To everyone saying this movie sucks:
...and yet here we are discussing it.
-Great art is rarely a pleasant and uplifting experience, sometimes it jabs you straight in the heart
0:23 ?
0:50 - Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne - ruclips.net/video/RMR5zf1J1Hs/видео.html
1:19 - I Want It That Way - BSB - ruclips.net/video/4fndeDfaWCg/видео.html
1:30 - Where Everybody Knows Your Name - Gary Portnay - ruclips.net/video/xYcX534JqG4/видео.html
1:50 - I want To Know What Love Is - Foreigner - ruclips.net/video/raNGeq3_DtM/видео.html
2:08 - In a gadda da vida - Iron Butterfly - ruclips.net/video/UIVe-rZBcm4/видео.html
2:33 - Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine?) · Marvin Berry - ruclips.net/video/HFVYbiJBMCI/видео.html
2:55 - ?
3:13 - Smell Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana - ruclips.net/video/hTWKbfoikeg/видео.html
3:51 - Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - ruclips.net/video/vCadcBR95oU/видео.html
4:06 - I Love Rock'n'Roll - Joan Jett - ruclips.net/video/iC8oP4Z_xPw/видео.html
4:30 - Where Is My Mind - Pixies - ruclips.net/video/5iC0YXspJRM/видео.html
4:59 - Ode To Joy - Beethoven - ruclips.net/video/8nGhHL6Dhok/видео.html
5:02 - Crazy Frog - Axel F - ruclips.net/video/k85mRPqvMbE/видео.html
5:06 - La Bamba - ruclips.net/video/Coy8Hoa1DNw/видео.html
5:13 - Pinball Wizard - Elton John - ruclips.net/video/joxyFDmh_LY/видео.html
1:19 - i want it that way - BSB - ruclips.net/video/4fndeDfaWCg/видео.html
it's Beverly Hills Cop at 5:02
This is one of my favourite movie scenes ever
Incredible how they got Johnny Knoxville to reprise his Grandpa character in this scene
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he looked like Irving
awesome, you cut right before the shot i needed haha
Andrew garfields performance really sells this scene so well
Paul McCartney bass behind Garfield=truth drop
what truth?
great... andrew killed Satan. Now we are stucked with die antwoord forever...
I mean...at least that's somewhat original
One of the most underrated scenes in modern indy cinema. for really real. LOVE
These songs sound so beautiful on the piano.
SPOILERS! If you want the mystery of this film to remain, stop reading now!
Unfortunately, I think Mike (Red Letter Media, since I know a lot of people were brought here due to their review) is wrong - even though he’s allowed to be right - about Spider-Man being The Dog Killer. The thing is, I don't think there really is a dog killer, and if there is, we’ll never understand what it means. 2 of the film’s main themes are 1) Question everything and 2) What do things actually mean? The problem is we’ll never fully get to understand any of this, because we’re not apart of the elite that rule over us. As The Songwriter said about the messages within the songs, "They're not for us." The few times we hear about dogs are 1) When the only dog that really died was in the car accident of Jefferson Sevens; 2) When the prostitute tells Spider-Man that she once saw Sarah (the girl he's searching for) in "shitty performance art, dressed as a dalmatian, as old men were surrounding her; and most importantly 3) When Spider-Man sees Women, and only Women (even when it's a man dressed as Sarah in his dream) barking back at him. So let's break it down.
One of the first times we hear about dogs is when the only dog that actually died, was the dog in the car accident with Jefferson Sevens. Does that mean each rich elite must find a girl with a dog, and then have it "killed" with them? I don't know, and I will never know, because these codes are not meant for me. The second time is when the pro is talking about Sarah dressed as a dalmatian, while surrounded by the rich elite. This reinforces the idea that these words or signs are not meant for our understanding, and everything is reduced to something meaning something else, which leads us to reason 3. The reason why Spider-Man sees women barking at him, is that that's what they've been reduced to. Not just an animal, but an image, or object, which is represented through codes, such as "Beware The Dog Killer", which is controlled by the elites. We could argue all day that there really is a dog killer, or there isn't a dog killer, and all of the "missing dog" signs placed out in the streets, are just more codes or deflections to keep interested parties, like The Comic Artist, confused. You might say, "What about The Bird Woman? He was right about her?" Well, was he? This is Hollywood! How do we know the elites didn't kill him, and then stage some women dressed as a bird to appear on his tapes, so if the cops ever look into it, it's another dead end, or assume it's some kink he was into? We, the public, will never know.
Now, this is where the film gets really fun, because it's not just the women that have been reduced to objects, but everyone following Hollywood's - and possibly/probably the rest of the worlds - footsteps. The Songwriter explains it perfectly. "I don't care what's cool or hip. It's all meaningless, and it's not meant for you. Your art, your writing, are all apart of rich men's ambitions you will NEVER understand." The movie is taking a jab at THE IDEA of hipsters, and their lack of authenticity. Kids, 18-35, drowning in pastiche or nostalgia for the sake of it, and not having any meaning attached to it, simply because it seems "cool." The scene on the rooftop, where the girl is performing her balloon performance art is a perfect example. All of the hipsters watching her, as if it's something amazing, yet if you were to ask them what it meant, they couldn't or wouldn't tell you, because it has no meaning. In the film, and to some philosophers, we have all become confused objects, bundled in meanings that we will never be able to unscramble or truly understand. And THAT is what Under The Silverlake is about, & why I consider it one of my favorite horror films. When the truth is found to be lies by the white music man, then what?
Damnnn woah
This movie sucked
@@JMS849 maybe you probably kinda suck?
@@flynnjaman you say the message of the movie is question everything but no one in comments are asking why is this movie so stupid? Why is this movie pointless? Why did i i just waste 2 hours watching porn for idiots?
@@JMS849 so, yes, you’re obviously not a golfer 🎳
This is as satisfying as an ASMR of Raiden's psyche being destroyed in real time in MGS2.
still don’t understand why people don’t like this movie, it is unbelievably good, top 5 movie from 2000-2024
Why is this scene so creepy? I feel molested.
Because it shatters the reality of this the fictitious pop culture we all know and love.
@Birman Cat Yes his employer is satan !
because deep down inside. You know its the truth.
Because the actor is speaking to the audience, not the character sam.
@Birman Cat its not the devil, its the wealthy. The movie is literally about the secret lives of billionaires
The man who played This old man deserves an award. The whole idea that even when the elites are killed it doesn't matter because their messages and legacy and craft lives on is one of the most sobering and terrifying things put to cinema. You can stop one, but another will take their place, and another and another.
Big wheels keep on turning, and Proud Mary keeps on burning. The entirety of Hollywood rolling on a river. Or better put, resting like a lily pad on a silver lake of immeasurable wealth and talent.
To me, it's not that someone handed these stars their hits, but rather the labels took well meaning artists and exploited them to the point where their inner most feelings were made for the masses. The Songwriter represents the labels, not the actual artists, because without them, those songs that fueled boomer/gen x/millennials lives would've never surfaced in such a big way. You could argue that the Songwriter is just blatantly lying, taking credit for the writing when all he did was put the pieces in the right place. It's a far more devious plan if it played out like that.
That being said, he does have a point in that so many people live through art instead of heir own experiences. They hide behind someone else's pain to process their own. He's right in saying "the message was never for you". He just made it seem that way because money.
It's true...either it is written by a machine or one person for a long time, decades. The same lines can be found in different songs and genres like county, all rock, pop, and motown even. Example: google the number 1000 and see how many songs come up. There are numerous examples if you HEAR the lyrics or just read them.
"There is no rebellion. There is only me, earning a paycheck" is a hard ass line not gonna lie
Literally every civil war in africa
@@KICK839 Pretty much every war since and including the American Brother War, falsely called the Civil War.
“Tell Me Why” 🗣️ 😅😂 classic & never gets old
The most shocking insanity secne 😂
man you left the best part out
Its definitely NOT Kurt's guitar ... its his soul
He singing “I want it that way, tell me..” is just outstanding what a songwriter/songsinger omg omg rofl rofl
One of the best movies of 2018. Damn shame that A24 buried it.
2018 must of been a bad year for movies then..
Perhaps they buried his movie because it has too many uncomfortable truths in it.
Why do you think they buried it?
Watch this scene, along with many others in the movie, again, and you'll know.
the best thing about this scene is that is kinda accurate. most of the most popular songs from since late 70's had their instrumentals composed by like 5~6 composers, i doesnt mean these musicians work were all made by them, is just a couple of ones, most became their biggest hits, and most of these composers are based in california. the lyricists vary more tho
i love this scene because The Songwriter is such this immense and powerful figure compared to sam, and by extension the audience. he's claiming he wrote Ode to Joy, for god's sake. but in all reality, he's just a stooge. he's not one of the elite, he's not like sevence, like the pirate, anyone out there. we first think jesus is some sort of bad guy, but he's just another stooge to The Songwriter, and i wouldn't be surprised if there's more people hiding behind others above this guy. he's just one finger of a horrifying machine.
Why did they slip a Beethoven song in there? Is this implying that the man at the piano is supernatural?
The old man is the devil
@@orlandoestrada3713 exactly..
Lmao...... no, it’s implying that he’s a homeless bum who can’t stop having Korean War flashbacks
@@NewNormalWorldOrder this is my favourite comment because this movie wasn't deep at all. Its a joke
because the man is supposed to represent the devil and show how he is behind all the music we listen to. the devil doesn't have an age btw.
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT CHILLS WHEN SOME ICONIC SONGS CAME ON
Music is the best form of mind programming.
Masterpiece
Crap
This pretty much became true in the past 20 years. Max Martin wrote nearly every hit songs since 1996.
Ah I knew it was some totally lame yet suspicious sounding name, but I couldn't remember. Martin is some kind of dark bloodline isn't it?
Cool. Doesn't make it a good movie topic tho.
@@JMS849 dude you DESPISE this movie, are you ok?
@@exodescult did u even watch it? Its stupid
@@JMS849 dude, genuine question, what has this movie done to you to the point where you've been shitting on it constantly for almost a year now? do you hate it THAT much?
Even the iconic purported songwriting partnership of John Lennon and Paul Mccartney is mostly just another part of what Lennon himself often referred to as "the Beatles myth." Davey Jones said that the Beatles - - not The Monkees - - were the first manufactured rock band, and Quincy Jones called them "no-playing motherfuckers." (Prior to the Sgt. Pepper's album and the replacement of original Paul in 1966, session musicians who remained anonymous were used extensively on their albums as was the conventional practice in the recording industry.) On his Sage of Quay and Paul Is Dead RUclips channels, independent/alternative researcher Mike Williams posted an eye-opening in-depth presentation questioning whether or not the Beatles wrote all of their own music and actually played the instruments on all of their recorded songs, and he convincingly demonstrates it is a near impossibility in light of known facts that Lennon and McCartney could have ever written and fully recorded all of the songs credited to them under the circumstances and time constraints of the official Beatles narrative.
Reminds me of the Malik guy who rewrote all the Beat-Less repertoire and fooled the world claiming this fact as if it was his own creation. For those who have listened demos by the 4 fabs may notice that their songs were very different from the recorded/edited versions of the albums we all know...
this movie is honestly so brilliant
One of the best scenes in cinema history.
Why dude
@@tadzbahal4841 because it reveals the truth
@@TheStonedCruiser what truth, please tell me what do you see?
@@tadzbahal4841 The system is self revealing. They are controlling us via all forms of media songs,movies etc. The Beatles or whoever (insert any famous musician here) didnt write those songs they were given to them. Everyone you see on the world stage is just an actor, a front man including every politician. Everyone taking their orders. You got lies on the news and truth in movies. All fake everything upside down. Their symbols and numbers give them away. Look into gematria and numerology. For some reason they have to reveal the truth to us and they do it with movies like this one where everybody thinks its just fiction about a guy wiith paranoia but its actually the truth.
@@TheStonedCruiser you have well understood the movie, but maybe got a little too far for thinking it is the exactly the situation in the real world. I appreciate your effort to write such a long comment though.
This movie is so good that i don’t want to watch again so a couldn’t lose the felling of watching the first time