How High is too High (Truth on Ape Hangers)

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  • @schumad
    @schumad 6 лет назад +68

    I've never really been a huge fan of the Ape Hangers, but I love that there are so many different ways to customize a bike. Every one can be unique.

    • @SquireSCA
      @SquireSCA 3 года назад

      If by unique, you mean by looking like every other biker with the same ape hangers, the same orange and black tee, the same bandana, the same chain wallet, etc...

    • @hasanraza4650
      @hasanraza4650 2 года назад +1

      The handlebar on 'Grace' is very beautiful. Grace is the panhead chopper ridden by Nicolas Cage in the film Ghost Rider (2007).

    • @SquireSCA
      @SquireSCA 4 месяца назад

      @VIKING975- They are just so gay... I hate it when guys do shit to their bikes that make them handle worse, because they think it looks cool. It screams poser. lol

    • @captainsmash4513
      @captainsmash4513 Месяц назад

      ​@SquireSCA bro wtf are you talking about lol. The real gay shit is you concerning yourself with what other men do with their hogs lol.

  • @realWorsin
    @realWorsin 2 года назад +26

    I really love that you quote a scripture before riding. Never stop doing this, makes me smile every time.

  • @wileymangum9949
    @wileymangum9949 6 лет назад +122

    I ride with apes on my bike, just returned from New River Gorge to Charlotte, NC. by myself, no numbness, no pain and a great ride. Control is unbelievable. Counter steering with apes super great, I hate regular bars on bikes. By the way..... I am 65 yrs. young and can probably leave all you young guns on a curvy road.

    • @datguy197
      @datguy197 6 лет назад +8

      Wiley Mangum awesome man, ride safe 😎

    • @caseygrant636
      @caseygrant636 5 лет назад +4

      I had 14’s on my Victory Highball, rode it quite a few times on 3-4 hour rides, Charlotte NC to Myrtle Beach SC, no issues. Apes are more difficult at parking lot speed but not difficult enough to complain. That being said, I prefer mid controls with high bars.

    • @lesdewitt6430
      @lesdewitt6430 5 лет назад +13

      Oh right you better tell racers like Valentino Rossi that he has his bars set up wrong.

    • @rickferguson6794
      @rickferguson6794 5 лет назад +6

      @@lesdewitt6430 totally different riding

    • @CaneFu
      @CaneFu 5 лет назад +3

      @@lesdewitt6430 ...No one is advocating ape hangers on racing bikes you dipshit, only on cruisers.

  • @davidfullerton1865
    @davidfullerton1865 6 лет назад +12

    Praise the Lord! Great video! I have a '02 Sportster 1200 Custom that I put 18" ape on. With the factory riser and drag bars my neck and shoulders would hurt after a short time out on the road. With my apes, I actually sit up straighter with my hands almost shoulder height. Now I can take a lunch trip (7 hours each way) and come home the same with no problems. The crazy thing is I'm only 5'9". So I agree, if you go to high then they could be uncomfortable but if you keep them just below your shoulders then you sit in a more natural position which through experience is more comfortable. BTW, before anyone says "well that's just because your on a Sportster", while my wife and I was in Daytona we rented an '17 Electra Glide and I had the same problem with "reaching" down to the stock handle bars. Anyways, be blessed and be safe out there.

    • @scottlibman7870
      @scottlibman7870 4 года назад +1

      I have a sportster chopper put apes on about 16 yrs ago, had them ever since. I will never go back. Just recently took a Night Train with drag bars for a spin. Hated it.

  • @jordanbeatty244
    @jordanbeatty244 4 года назад +6

    I’m not even a church goer any more but as a lover of your channel and fb videos that i pretty much watch daily, i appreciate the positivity man.

  • @Hero_of_Legend
    @Hero_of_Legend 6 лет назад +25

    The general rule of thumb is that you do not want your arms resting above your shoulders. So you want them sized to be parallel or just below ( maybe just above ) your shoulders. This is because if they're too high, you reduce circulation into your forearms and hands, and will fatigue faster. But let's be honest, apes look and feel fantastic, if they're done right. I used to think they would suck, but then I bought a bike that had them ( 10" ), and I was blown away by how comfortable they feel. As such, I'll never again go without apes.

    • @immelting9834
      @immelting9834 2 года назад

      I have 12 in on my VTX . Previously I had the drug bars that They came with it. The drags looked cool but I was leaning over too much ( short arms).

    • @Hero_of_Legend
      @Hero_of_Legend 2 года назад

      @@immelting9834 I too have 12s now. They look great, they feel great, and I can lean back a bit, and ride more comfortably.

  • @chanceblevins6682
    @chanceblevins6682 3 года назад +5

    It means a brother tells his brother the truth out of love no matter how hard it is on the friendship

  • @beatstreet33
    @beatstreet33 5 лет назад +2

    I rode (and still do) a 1984 Suzuki GS1100GK for years and my hands would go numb all the time. I bought a HD Road King with 12-inch apes that put my hands and arms right at or a bit below my shoulders and I have not had dead hands while using them. The apes do pose a bit of a challenge at lot parking speeds but control on open higways is much improved over standard placement bars. I installed a throttle lock on the Suzuki to deal with the issue. The Road King has a throttle boss that I can rest my hand on and it is very comfortable.

  • @Theboynextdoor69
    @Theboynextdoor69 6 лет назад +64

    Lmfao if youre going up against a bear you’ll look real big.. flapping your wings and stuff! That shit had me dying

  • @badkatrising3918
    @badkatrising3918 2 года назад +1

    I was is great shape due to my last hardtail chopper. I was lucky to make it home 4 out of 7 rides without walking most of the way. It so increased my knowledge of roadside wrenching, which was an invaluable tool for future endeavors. Still one of my favorite bikes I ever owned. Finally cracked the frame at the tree when traveling over a pot hole at 40 mph. Rode in straight into the ditch on the frame since it broke in half and stepped off it as both halves went into the ditch. RIP chopper. I still miss ya.

  • @wtthatsme951
    @wtthatsme951 6 лет назад +8

    I personally don't ride with Ape Hangers, though on some bikes they make the look good; it makes people do the double take and sneak a second look. As for the hands getting tired and etc., I've heard different stories. From those riders I've spoken with that ride with them most have said that once your body adjust to the position it's not an issue. One thing you did leave out though, every state has different restrictions on the height of a motorcycle's handlebars. So what may be good in one state may not be in another. Something the rider should check on before installing Ape Hangers. They love ticketing people here for everything; cars, trucks, motorcycles, skateboards, etc.!

  • @carymeese709
    @carymeese709 3 года назад +5

    Dude I love how you give a little word from God. Thank you for video bro. Ride safe and God bless you

  • @aland1618
    @aland1618 6 лет назад +6

    In Illinois the height limit for ape hangers are shoulder height.

  • @aljenysilven4121
    @aljenysilven4121 5 лет назад +1

    Hows that 90 degree intake on your leg? Compared to stock. Being 6feet 2??

  • @tringe22
    @tringe22 4 года назад +1

    I just ordered 12’s for my Street Glide. The stocks bars are too low causing back of neck fatigue from bending forward and down... I really notice it after a long ride. I was going to go with 10’s but for my arms to be straight out with slight bend in elbow... the 12’s were better. Im hoping it will help with my posture when riding the longer rides. I was torn between Factory 47’s or KST’s and I went with the KST’s.

  • @kobeadams1931
    @kobeadams1931 3 года назад +5

    I have 16s on my wide glide love them, they're right at my mouth, haven't lost feeling in them and they allow me to go on long distance rides, had a sporty with 3" z bars on a 3" riser, hated it tbh

  • @ItsAbrahamSamuel
    @ItsAbrahamSamuel 4 года назад

    Do you think Apes would be good for riding on hills? I have a Bajaj Avenger Cruise 220 and looking to put on it.

  • @ASASHANYA
    @ASASHANYA 4 года назад +8

    I used to ride my Sportster with a dragbar- life was a drag you know,
    but now when I changed it to the ape hanger I hang out a lot more. Thanks ape hanger!

  • @montanez193
    @montanez193 2 года назад

    Hey brotha had a question. Does the 2022 Honda Shadow Phantom have enough cables length for 8 inch apes and 1 or 2 inch risers?

  • @FLHCSfan68
    @FLHCSfan68 3 года назад +4

    I'm 5' 9". I love my 16" Ape's on my Road King Special.

  • @AdamHuman-ei9oz
    @AdamHuman-ei9oz Год назад

    do you know how high I can go for apes with stock cables for a honda shadow

  • @kenneyvega9004
    @kenneyvega9004 3 года назад

    What is the company that makes those bars?

  • @rayswoodshop4467
    @rayswoodshop4467 6 лет назад +10

    Got 14's on my 09 Ultra...perfect !

  • @charlespayne2002
    @charlespayne2002 6 лет назад +6

    I've been rolling with 18' apes forever ( Harley heritage softail)... love them. They handle great but you do need ridgid bar bushings. The leverage makes the poly bushings feel squishy.

    • @mraycgz
      @mraycgz 3 года назад +3

      I know this is an old comment but this is something that no one brings up. I have 18” apes on a road king and that’s the only complaint I have. And you summed it up. The leverage makes them feel squishy.

  • @greggreen6636
    @greggreen6636 5 лет назад +2

    Some people like em, some hate em, i put 16s on my old shovelhead and love em. Only thing u got to learn is u have more leverage on control

  • @kielfrank4528
    @kielfrank4528 3 года назад +1

    I'm not religious but those words of wisdom were right when I needed them, 3 years after you said them.
    Cheers.

  • @juice5203
    @juice5203 3 года назад +1

    Mine measure 18” and I’ve ridden tens of thousands of miles and yes your shoulders get tired until you get muscle built up for it. But I wouldn’t want a bike without them now that I have them. Love my apes

  • @alexanderkoufodontis2092
    @alexanderkoufodontis2092 5 лет назад +1

    U know maybe it just me but I cant ride without apes I mean I can technically but it's just super uncomfortable I have 18in on my Electra glide and 16in on my sportster I tried the stock bars on both couldn't stand it

  • @scummybagger4213
    @scummybagger4213 5 лет назад +2

    While sitting on bike with hands on bars. If your hands are as high as your shoulders that is about the height limit you should go. Best for handling is a few inches below the shoulders.

  • @kdsolez3370
    @kdsolez3370 5 лет назад +2

    I have a 2003 heritage softail with 14 inch apes with a 4 inch riser which is basically 18 inch bars

  • @elsey1976
    @elsey1976 4 года назад +1

    Wider is NOT better. The wider the bars the closer your shoulder blades are pushed together. Try that for hours with or without a windshield and let me know how that goes.

  • @mikeyg6631
    @mikeyg6631 4 года назад

    Thanks for doing proper reviews 👍

  • @albertrosas2264
    @albertrosas2264 6 лет назад +2

    What is the best way to make turns having ape hangers lean your shoulders or your whole body

    • @SPCShults
      @SPCShults 6 лет назад +1

      Albert Rosas same as stock bars as long as you don't get ridiculous with the height of the bars.

  • @leonardshyti9614
    @leonardshyti9614 3 года назад

    Do bar weights reduce vibrations on apes?

  • @renniesmith8073
    @renniesmith8073 6 лет назад

    I used to have a 2010 super glide custom loved that bike! But I dont think I would trade my street glide for one though!

  • @BerserkerNick
    @BerserkerNick 4 года назад +1

    14's on my vtx1800, had stock bars on the vtx for awhile and they just never felt right, it also gave me a good reason to get rid of the gigantic windshield

    • @blumoneyjohnson5795
      @blumoneyjohnson5795 Год назад +1

      Thinking of putting some on my vtx, I'm like 5'11 what size hangers would you suggest?

    • @BerserkerNick
      @BerserkerNick Год назад

      @@blumoneyjohnson5795 16's

  • @CNo-mm5de
    @CNo-mm5de Год назад

    How long is handbar?😮😮😮

  • @thomaslarson7306
    @thomaslarson7306 6 лет назад +6

    Apes are mainly for looks! But if your a big guy like me (im 6'3) they are a must! I have 14's on my Road King and they are nice!!!

  • @picuvega423
    @picuvega423 4 года назад +1

    The law in some Statex (although not enforced) is that the handle bars can not be higher than your shoulders

  • @rottweilerdog10
    @rottweilerdog10 5 лет назад +5

    I had 18’s. The riser bolts snapped, i had the bars in my lap, managed to slow down a bit but went over and broke my arm and bike was totalled. Happened in November just gone. (It’s now March)

    • @dodhdhdfdffgdhfonhdh
      @dodhdhdfdffgdhfonhdh 5 лет назад

      grab the fork tubes and rear brake duh

    • @rottweilerdog10
      @rottweilerdog10 5 лет назад +8

      Josh lets see u think that quick when everything goes to shit mate. And I used the rear brake and kicked her down to neautral but the low speed wobbles got her

    • @randomlife718
      @randomlife718 Год назад

      I had a single bar break once. Completed the ride home with the right bar in my lap.

  • @fernandizo
    @fernandizo 2 года назад +1

    Omg this dude and the shoulder explanation had me rolling..🤣🤣

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy 4 года назад +3

    16 inch are perfect on a sportster. Big twins the 14 inch. I was always told don’t do it. I did it anyway and was more
    Comfortable. Everything I was told bad about them was a lie and BS
    And actually we ride with one hand because we are relaxing, not because of discomfort

  • @ericnuernberg3901
    @ericnuernberg3901 4 года назад

    Great vid! Ride safe 👍🍺

  • @michaelfreeman9144
    @michaelfreeman9144 3 года назад

    My bad boys bars were shoulder height. Could ride all day. Position of bar's were not too forward but set to a comfortable to where my body wasn't stretched out and arms weren't straight. Adjusted for comfort and not what you think is cool.

  • @ronrichards2691
    @ronrichards2691 4 года назад

    I got same bars an control's an grips on my soft tail

  • @timothyharris6225
    @timothyharris6225 4 года назад

    As a man I respect and understand your opinion. I guess everyone is different or I’m just used to it, but me personally I’m a lot more comfortable with apes then any other style of bars.

  • @thomascollins7932
    @thomascollins7932 6 месяцев назад

    I had a 2006 Wideglide that came with "mini" ape hangers. They were about 9 inches and were the perfect size in my opinion. Just enough for style, but still good control of the bike and arm comfort was fine. I have never been a fan of those tall ones, probably becasue I would ride for hundreds of miles at a time, not bar to bar.

  • @JaredsFoxbody
    @JaredsFoxbody 5 лет назад +8

    I’m 5’10” 150 lbs and handle my wide glide just fine with a set of 18s

  • @mickc4633
    @mickc4633 6 лет назад +1

    Apps aren’t bad if your shoulder height no more. If you riding In colder weather you’re more exposed. Shoulder height or lower isn’t bad.

  • @irgendsoeintyp94
    @irgendsoeintyp94 2 года назад

    what exact height are these? 16" ?

  • @Orthodox_mang
    @Orthodox_mang 3 года назад +2

    Just seems perfect and nice comfortable sitting position

  • @kegankirby1460
    @kegankirby1460 Год назад

    It means friends are loved but not the same as you love your blood brother even though he gets you in some deep shit at times

  • @RockX_Chris
    @RockX_Chris 6 месяцев назад

    I grew up with my dad having a couple Road Kings, & I absolutely love them! My ultimate dream bike is a black Harley Road King with whitewalls, front windscreen delete, ape hangers, leather saddle bags, & some nice chrome loud pipes! 🥵🤤

  • @cannotgitrite
    @cannotgitrite 5 месяцев назад

    I have 18" apes on my Breakout. At first my arms/hands did get numb but after a lot of riding no longer numb

  • @silverwiskers7371
    @silverwiskers7371 6 лет назад +1

    Bike sounds great

  • @mohammadshazna1086
    @mohammadshazna1086 4 года назад

    I wanna use 12inch for my Vulcan 500

  • @xlrider1565
    @xlrider1565 2 месяца назад

    Here, in Honolulu, the max. allowed handlebar height by law, is 15" from top of seat height.

  • @jeremymoorer1611
    @jeremymoorer1611 3 года назад

    I'm getting the same bars in 14 in for my 2002 Heritage Softail Classic

  • @mickc4633
    @mickc4633 6 лет назад +1

    Actually in Sturgis if it’s over at shoulder height you’re getting a Ticket.

  • @94SexyStang
    @94SexyStang 3 года назад

    Apes are good for Neck, Back or Shoulder problems!! The trick is to find the right height......everyone's Height and Body Type are totally different. But yeah coming from sport bikes, I purchased a small cruiser which came with Apes, and just Left the bars.....because it felt really comfortable.

  • @michaelbearden3409
    @michaelbearden3409 6 лет назад +2

    I like the bike, that thing is rad

  • @juesila857
    @juesila857 3 года назад

    Hey buddy I watched all yours videos, I would love to come to visit your shop one day 👍🏻🇺🇸I’m from NJ

  • @mksalgado
    @mksalgado 5 лет назад +2

    That's not the real reason why guys one hand their bars, the reason why you use one hand is simply similar to the same reason you grab your steering wheel with one hand, because you want to to and you can

  • @tylerfabish5578
    @tylerfabish5578 5 лет назад +3

    lol that guys face at 2:52

  • @HighAway
    @HighAway 2 года назад

    that post-it note went gone into the wind.

  • @ooogoogleooo
    @ooogoogleooo 4 года назад

    nothing higher than your heart...

  • @jeffreyponting9524
    @jeffreyponting9524 5 лет назад +4

    20" is good

  • @pauls3696
    @pauls3696 5 лет назад +2

    They look like 16inches could be 18inches I think 14inches is perfect I'm 5.9 so looking at 14inches I've heard they are just right :) and look very cool nice vid cheers man!

    • @Ulfstigandr
      @Ulfstigandr 5 лет назад +1

      At 5’11 i love 16s. My dad also 5’9 likes his 14s so i think your on the right track there.

    • @BerserkerNick
      @BerserkerNick 4 года назад

      I'm 5'10" and 14's are perfect

  • @edgartovar2061
    @edgartovar2061 5 лет назад +1

    Where did they come from? Some one told me they come from military use, but I dont belive them

    • @BerserkerNick
      @BerserkerNick 4 года назад +4

      Soldiers would build bikes with ape hangers because the Germans in ww2 would string barbed wire across the road trying to decapitate US and UK soldiers running messages, the idea was the bars would take the impact of the barbed wire so your head could stay attached to your body

  • @djw1dude
    @djw1dude 6 лет назад +1

    what kind of camera do you use? the quality is top notch

  • @ryanjimmy8759
    @ryanjimmy8759 4 года назад

    5'6 125 130 lbs on a 03 sportster with 12 inch and they are perfect.

  • @mathewchen6471
    @mathewchen6471 4 месяца назад

    Those exposed handlebar cables are setting off my ADHD

  • @joshuavillela2336
    @joshuavillela2336 5 лет назад +3

    I thought your hands going numb was throttle vibration

    • @Hainero2001
      @Hainero2001 4 года назад

      It is. He got that wrong.

  • @PissBush
    @PissBush 3 года назад

    Every bike is different.my sportster has 20" and feels same height as brothers wide glide with 14"

  • @kristimarie9523
    @kristimarie9523 Год назад

    I'm riding a bike for the very first time ever in my life and I have 13 in ape hangers on mine...I'm struggling with my turns..

  • @tonyspicer6745
    @tonyspicer6745 Год назад

    Looks cool…

  • @krobarrides9028
    @krobarrides9028 6 лет назад

    Over shoulder height in Fla is illegal

  • @L2fish
    @L2fish 5 лет назад +1

    I flunked mass state inspection . Shoulder height is the limit

    • @nicholasmapes
      @nicholasmapes 5 лет назад +1

      That's why folks in inspection states have 2 sets of bars... inspection day bars, and every other day bars lol

  • @jonhanson9535
    @jonhanson9535 2 года назад

    I ride 20's on a heritage softail. They are comfortable for me even though my hands are over my head. There is no rule of thumb. Ride what you're comfortable with.

  • @richardmorley8309
    @richardmorley8309 6 лет назад

    Love my 18 but I love bananas to pretty comfortable nice to ride nighttrain softtail 2002

  • @kendtchileninjah5905
    @kendtchileninjah5905 6 лет назад +4

    Too high is when you forget why you walked into the room, and then going back to sit where you started hoping to look around and remember why you got up in the first place.
    Anyhoo...I ride some 16’s with risers I’m around 6’0, my first bike. My woman makes fun of my “no ass” having backside so I know what you mean by sitting low but I do love apes feels like riding in a mech cockpit like a gundam or something 🤓

  • @edwinlill1575
    @edwinlill1575 3 года назад

    I never bash u or correct u....but thry w×ere made because the closer ur hands are to ur shoulders ur body fatigue faster...so for long runs its comfy....same as to low or stupid high.....

  • @vitamc8584
    @vitamc8584 5 лет назад +3

    My hands and arms would fall asleep with those bars.

  • @scag8469
    @scag8469 5 лет назад +12

    One thing at least, it will keep your arm pits dry!

  • @romagrekov7435
    @romagrekov7435 Год назад

    Don't pass a school bus - he says ... And turned left at 1st opportunity 👍

  • @drivingkermit8286
    @drivingkermit8286 4 года назад +1

    “It’s not too loud” no such thing as too loud

  • @goodboyringo9716
    @goodboyringo9716 4 года назад

    I got 32 's on my road king love them!

    • @maddawg4599
      @maddawg4599 3 года назад

      You must have 6 foot long arms?

  • @blackkoganinja5093
    @blackkoganinja5093 6 лет назад

    Addicting channel bro. I feel like im riding watching these vids KUDOS!!!!!!!

  • @-MrRichBiker1967
    @-MrRichBiker1967 3 года назад

    bike sounds sick....

  • @Hooijnbvn
    @Hooijnbvn 2 года назад

    Never cared for apes. I just run a lower seat. Accomplishes my needs.

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 6 лет назад

    Only seems to be here. Most utube doesn't even stall

  • @seanmay3605
    @seanmay3605 3 месяца назад

    I put them on because they’re comfort. And they’re obnoxiously silly.

  • @wescope5600
    @wescope5600 6 лет назад +2

    Ima stay with my h2

  • @motogrey3707
    @motogrey3707 4 года назад

    My first memory verse at 6

  • @lukenovay1785
    @lukenovay1785 5 лет назад +1

    So Sean did you figure out what that bible verse meant. As curious as you

  • @nate1920
    @nate1920 3 года назад

    10" on my softail is not enough for 5'7" go big or go home

  • @uthrus
    @uthrus 6 лет назад

    How come you never scene those bikini beach bars on any bikes out here on the East coast. I love those things because they look like they would be so comfortable on a long ride. I've seen a few Honda GL's with low bars that come way back as well. For me, you can keep the apes and give me the bikini beach bars. Anybody else with me on that?

    • @davidknows3320
      @davidknows3320 6 лет назад

      Ken Thompson nope. Lol. Just took beach bars off of my bike and installed tall boys, not apes. Beach bars give me a burning pain between the shoulder blades. I do have a set of beach bars here I'll never use......

    • @uthrus
      @uthrus 6 лет назад

      David knows Very cool. What kind of bike do they go to? Maybe I can buy them and put them on my Vulcan 1500.

    • @davidknows3320
      @davidknows3320 6 лет назад

      Ken Thompson probably wont work, 1 1/4", came off a Road King

  • @cjsmith
    @cjsmith 6 лет назад +1

    Just above shoulders 👌🏻😎🇺🇸

  • @nobull772
    @nobull772 2 года назад

    Ape hangers only seem comfortable to bigger taller people. I don’t think I can even ride a motorcycle with monkey bars.

  • @BaccaratBible
    @BaccaratBible 5 месяцев назад

    You would just say the higher it is above your shoulders