"You go there, you find the seller doesn't actually have a bike to sell, he's just baiting you into his cellar- It's not a huge deal, just go with him, do what he wants. It'll cost you a couple hundred bucks in therapy to get over it but again, not a deal breaker..."
I never heard him say deal breaker. He said “not a deal breaker” several times though. I don’t understand what people are picking these videos apart for lol nothing he’s said is invalid
That's what I was thinking. I just bought a 2006 Softail Deluxe and it had a ton of surface rust and a few scratches here and there. Just minor scratches. But the surface rust got him to knock $2,000 off the price.. 2 days of me cleaning that it looks show room condition now.
True list: Engine starts and runs, no weird sounds, revvs quickly as expected, no significant oil leaking (add cost to put new seals), oil isn't exceptionally dirty on dipstick Trans: Shifts smooth but doesn't feel worn out, not leaking, no jerking (possibly broken tooth) Suspension: Stiff, no side wobble, feels tight (not as in uncomfortable, as in no egging out bolt holes or excessively worn parts) Electrical: Lights work without flickering, turn signals not too beat up, battery started good (and after test drive start it again while its warm, this also lets you know if the alternator is working), speedometer works (or YOLO) Tag: Up to date otherwise it often costs a ton in government harrasment taxes, title in their name and matches the numbers and model/engine size cosmetic: dents/paint/scrapes, these really don't matter and probably already reflected in price tag. You'll replace the tires soon anyways, that's a wearable item about the same as fuel in the tank
i bought a sport 4 wheeler from someone like that, he bought it brand new, rode it a hand full of times, and let it sit in his garage for 5 years... was in pristine condition, just needed air in the tires and the carb cleaned... gave him 1,000.00 for it, sold it for 3,000.00 about a year later after i had my fun with it. i did put new back tires on it before i sold it... all in all i was in about 12-1300 bucks... easily doubled my money and then some, AND I GOT TO ENJOY THAT TOY for a year... i kinda wish i still had it, i know i'm gonna miss it next riding season, it's too hot for that shit now, but i know i'm gonna miss it. probably gonna get a dirtbike this time though.
Great video! About to buy my first bike. 43 and have zero knowledge, my wife says I'm having a midlife crisis but I have always wanted to ride. Doing plenty of research and this video has helped me tremendously. Thank you!!!!!
I strongly recommend you find someone who knows what to look for on a used motorcycle. While minor drop damage may be insignificant, something like notchy steering head bearings could get you killed.
I bought a bike at 24 and my girlfriend and her step dad said I was having a "quarter" life crisis. Even though I took the MSF course at 21! People will always talk, even your loved ones. Since this was 9 months ago I hope you're loving your first bike!
To test your triple tree bearings, roll the bike backwards to forward then squeeze the front break while watching the triple tree. If it's bad, the tree will pop upwards. Bearings will need to be replaced.
Thanks for the info, especially about the title stuff! That's an often-overlooked element that NEEDS to be there. I asked a guy on craigslist to see pics of his title and VIN stamped on the bike, and he got all defensive. He ended up flaking and deciding not to sell. He might not have been a scammer, just maybe he wasn't quite ready to part with his ride yet. But beware, there are scammers out there. Make sure the title and VIN are legit.
The reason he says “not a deal breaker” is because a deal is a flexible thing. These are all points that alter the deal, but there’s almost always the possibility of a deal. He is a used motorcycle dealer after all...
I didn't take many of comments as negative, just guys busting chops, the guy does a great job describing what to look for and I hope he doesn't change his style. I say the more people bust chops, the more enjoyable the video is. But then again, my friends and I are at the mental age of 14 and do that to each other all the time. LOL
I think the whole idea with any transaction like this whether it be a motorcycle or a car or boat, tractor, house, whatever. Little things don’t have to be deal breakers if the price is right. Some people can afford small repairs. Some people like buying projects to work on 🤷🏼♂️ for other people bad tires and a scratch or two could be enough to send them running back home!
I'm 73 years old and I have a 1996 Harley Davidson Softail which is getting to heavy for me and want to trade down to a Sportster. Your video is going to help me a lot and I plan on printing the check list. Thank you very much from Massachusetts. Gil
@@theimmortalsleazus8057 Yes. As nonya biz said, they don't want to meet you because they are probably a poor liar and would rather have their friend meet you and act dumb about the bike. You go and ask their friend questions about the bike and he just shrugs his shoulders and says he doesn't know anything about the bike. Just walk away from the deal unless the bike is in really good shape and cheap.....Of course verify the vin and title etc too.
@@Mr.M1STER I have actually done this myself when i was selling my car while i was in the military. Had to leave it behind and didnt get it sold so i had my buddy do the mettings and everything for me and if the buyer had any questions that he didnt know, he would call me with them there
I was ripped off on my first bike. Wish I would have seen this video before I bought the bike. Very informational video thanks for the heads up brother safe riding.
Ha! Just made a deal on a 08 Sportster. Wish I'd seen this video before hand. Good info on checking both VIN's. In my experience tires and fluids need to be changed unless new because you need to know how old they are before you ride (maintenance baseline). I didn't but should have checked the fuse box to see if it's been accessed (should be nice and dirty). I did check the tailpipe for black residue (rich). Didn't smell rich or lean on startup. I checked the steering head bearings. If it was an expensive bike I normally get a compression test and a leak down too (Harley does a pre-buy inspection for a couple of hundred and well worth it.) Less expensive is to pull a plug and look at the color and do a test ride. The Sporty was priced low and parts are everywhere so if I screwed up it won't be a disaster. I like your idea of bringing a friend or getting a friend to look it over too. Bikes are so much fun (40 years and counting :) Good video as always... YIC
I just bought a 1992 Honda shadow missing hardware carbs need rebuild needs paint. He wanted 500 I paid 200. I soaked engine because exhaust valve in front cylinder was stuck. Fired her up with starter fluid. I'm about 500 in total with parts I dint count the labor because it's fun. Found all used parts on Ebay. Swingarm, shocks, hardware. Carb kit, fork seals, jb weld for minor crack in case, and a new battery. A few other odd and ends. Got me a nice running bike for 500 bucks. Need to title it. It is a salvage rebuilt title. Who cares it's all strait and it was cheap.
Great video... I have always told the owner of the bike I am interested in to not start it before I get there. I then feel the pipes and engine to make sure it is a true cold start.
Went to look a Sportster recently. Bike looked good, sounded good, clean with a few scratches. Guy didn't want me to take it for a ride and that was a sticking point, then the guy started telling me about how many Burn Out Contest he won with this Sportster. I walked immediately. Used is fine but no way I wanted to buy a bike some Jackleg abused like that.
I really didn't watch the whole video, (I am a rider with over 50 years experience) but one of the most important tips of buying a used motorcycle is to ensure that you arrive when the bike has been sitting a while and has not been started or run before you arrive. The engine must be COLD. Instruct the seller to NOT start the bike before hand. Touch engine and exhaust ! This will assure you that on older bikes the choke and carburator(s) will function as they should and will start the bike with minimal crank overs. If that doesn't happen, ask questions. Also, before even going to look at any bike, ask if owner has ALL maintenance records on file. If not, don't even go. Excuses don't cut it.
Lance Littleton literally what I did when I got my mustang, straight piped v8, I noticed the windshield was cracked and the brake didn’t work. But later on a vacuum leak started and the fuel pump died.
@@SantiRecon308 Relatable i bought a twin turbo b4 once, took it around the block and it drove sweet, then it was driving home the thing blew up and it turned out the car couldn't run for more than 10 minutes before overheating and the headgasket was blown. :(
“Met the guy at a McDonald’s parking lot, he doesn’t have the bike with him but a photo album of the bike, promised me he would show me the bike after I pay. we just have to ask those questions; when did you take the pictures ? Are these top quality photos? Will I ever own or see the bike itself ? again not a huge dealbreaker”
First, thanks, I've been watching your videos (bikes and beards) and enjoy them (some of them are a little long when it comes to the part when you're riding in the van to look at a bike). This video is pretty much covers all the things to look for when buying a used bike except you never fired the engine up. You also didn't mention anything about what you should be looking for during the test drive. And in watching your videos I hardly ever hear/see you doing such a thorough examination... So thanks, I enjoy the videos, keep it in the wind.
At about 3:25, text on vid says there is a link to full checklist in description. I don't see a link to any checklist. (assume it's a list of things to look at when evaluating used bike)
Great informative video. I recently purchased a 2011 Yamaha V-Star 650 custom V-twin. When I went to the dealership I took a flashlight to thoroughly examine every inch of the motorcycle. I noticed that there was a little mud or dirt under the fenders and I told the dealer I had reservations of purchasing the machine. I also asked for its service records and I was pleasantly surprised that the former owner took great pains for its scheduled maintenance to even including trueing its spokes. To clinch the deal I told the dealership that because I thought that it had been ridden on a dirt road possibly once I wanted a new battery installed and take a few dollars off the asking price. It had super low miles ridden, new Metzler tires and ran great and also because I had bought MANY motorcycles from that dealer, they gave me a few accommodations. I am glad that I brought a high powered flashlight with me because it saved me a lot of money. I guess I have OCBD. I want my motorcycles perfectly clean because after each ride I put the bike on a jack stand and clean each spoke or every link in a chain! LOL
Generally there are not many things that can't be fixed on a bike that would make them an actual deal breaker. You have to be confident enough to make the seller aware of any flaws though and make him an offer accordingly.
I watched this video while waiting for the owner of a bike. Just before looking at the bike got to the part about the fork seals and stopped watching. Then when inspecting the bike...(the owner said the clutch was going bad and breaks but said nothing about the forks) went to look at them..both not one but both were slimy! He even played off how gone the clutch actually was. Basically was lied to and only got half the truth about the bike. This video helped me a lot! Thanks for the help! :) I didn't buy the bike.
Something that I apply when buying ANY used vehicle; INSPECT THE ENGINE. Seriously; it doesn't matter the condition of the body or a car's interior. The cleanliness of the engine and transmission will tell you more about how well they took care of the vehicle than anything else. If the engine is dirty or rusty, they either didn't take care of the vehicle or they cheap-skated it. If it's about the usual amount of dirt or rust, then it's likely the same as most other used vehicles; runs good, not likely to have any immediate problems. If it's in excellent condition, that means they took care of it well and is likely worth every dollar they're asking.
Also keep in mind that some people will put additives to stop the leaking, instead of actually fixing it. It’s frustrating that people do this, and later on you will have to deal with that problem later on. Stop leak products only add more problems down the road, might not then but it will later on or sooner.
I'm a new biker with not much knowledge on bike mechanics. Few months ago, I saw an ad on Craigslist for an 87 Yamaha Virago 535xv for $1800. It only had 1200 miles on it. I was astonished at the deal and was sold by the sincerety of the owner. It's been 4 months since I bought the bike and I've only had 30 minutes of headache free riding. I'm planning to sell it now since it has hidden electrical issues that I can't fix and I don't want to pay lot of 💰 for. Also, the owner, although initially texting back, has not answered my phone for the last 2.5 months. Thanks for this video. I'm planning on get another bike soon.
I bought my '78 Yamaha SR500 over the internet and only saw pictures, almost 20 years ago. 1) It's a Yamaha 2) It was pristine 3) the SR500 is a simple, bullet proof bike. It's almost 50 years old and it's still my daily ride.
-Dont make the “WOW, a motorcycle” emotional purchase. -Check Everywhere for scrapes and dents (indications of accident or drops). -ALWAYS VERIFY VIN & Title. -Thoroughly inspect for leaks. -Check under seat. -Inspect Tires, Break pads and lines, and Fork Seals.
If I took the tip on not buying a motorcycle because of the scratches. I'd never own a bike.. Sean I love you but then that's not a priority on things to look for. You want to check the brakes and the tires and clutch does it start up without issue? does it backfire?.. what do the spark plugs look like? I like to pull out the dipstick and make sure that the oils not milky white and creamy. Also does the person selling it to you have any service records or are they mechanically inclined and took care of these things. These are the little things I look for.
thank you for doing this. I come to university of RUclips daily to research current issues in my life. Currently looking for a used Vulcan. This video helped me big time. God Bless what you do!
I laid my Heritage classic down in the garage last year. I wanted to sweep the floor so I moved the bike up a few feet. I didn't notice the kickstand move up. Well over she went. No damage. She went over easy.
That has hapened to the best of us. A friend dropped his Goldwing on a slope. Didn't realize he should have put it in gear. Rolled forward, off the sidestand, his buds scrambled to catch it, but too late. Minor damage but embarassing nevertheless.
Make sure you also ask the rider questions about himself. How have you been feeling lately? Whens the last time you called your grandma? You paid off that mortgage yet?
I have a 2012 NC700X Honda for sale. Runs like new, recent service, new tires/chain/battery. Has a windscreen. 18,000 miles. 65-70mpg. Listed for $3500. Obo.
Great informative video, asking some advice here , my mechanic is selling a 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 for a customer very clean and stock comes with bags floor boards and wind screen in the color of dark grey, I am not experienced at buying used bikes but i did do an inspection of the underside of the bike and had found a thick oil film stain expanding out from the drain plug covering half of the engine crankcase. Now to me this might be an indication of over tightening the drain plug bolt and ether a crack in the crank case or stripped drain plug hole threads causing the oil sweating, the mechanic says that it is probably caused from the last oil change A YEAR AGO , the tires look like they may have one season left to go, by the fall they will have to be changed, the front brake pads look okay , i did not see any indications of a drop but id have to do a better inspection of the entire bike, after seeing the oil film on the bottom of the crank case coming from the drain plug I did not go any further , can't tell weather the casting is cracked or weather its just residue left over from the last oil change he wants $3500.00 what is your opinion on this one going by what iv just described ?
If its on blocks and won't start.....it's not a deal breaker, but just be aware and ask questions.... probably going to be a couple hundred bucks to fix... no worries....
If you ask how much is it and he says how much do you have and then you say really how much is it and then he says I said how much do you have and then proceeds to pull out a humongous wrench and a sheriff's badge. That just might be a deal breaker.
yea, this Sean guy rarely knows what he's talking about. I really don't know how he ended up employed at a motorcycle dealership. he as a person, is one big deal breaker
"Nobody paints a perfectly good motorcycle ", come on Shawn,we paint our Harleys because we want to! Weather the previous paint was original or not most real(old school) Harley riders personalize their scooters to their taste! Maranatha, Greetings from Tampa Florida 😎
This video is spot on! I didn't follow these recommendations and bought a used rebel from a dealership bike mechanic. He started it up and it "ran good without issues," I took it home and before I got it off the trailer it lost all electric and now I have a completely dead bike. Put new battery in and still dead. Check fuses, all good. Wasted money on a bike because I trusted a dealership mechanic that this was a good bike.
3:47min I had my forks start leaking on my 98 Yamaha 650, which cost me 300 bucks to rebuild at the dealership. I got 47 k miles on it and still going strong.
I like the turn the handlebar to check for worn bushings and the check the gas cap. I looked at a road king where the dude said it was never down. Found a gouge on the engine guard where it would touch the ground. Maybe scraping in sharp turns. Also half of a clutch lever broken off. He probably broke the clutch lever splitting lanes. This is CA.
Just bought a harley 48 everything was good took a 200 mile roadtrip everything was running perfect came back home next day battery shut off On my way! To work battery wasn’t charging turned out to be the stator and regulator 500 bucks with labor.........
At Least the guy Tried to Help Someone NOT get ripped off,... Just wish he would have let us Know at WHAT Mileage Certain Items Fail, such as the Chain, Brakes, Fork Seals, Etc... and what to look for on the Spark plugs, to let us know if the Motor has Internal problems... But STILL Nice that He took the time to TRY and Help Others. :)
You can also fake it till you make it. Even if you're not a mechanic pull the dipstick check the oil look at the spark plugs. If there's any kind of corrosion or rust bring it up. Just nip pic for a while and spend a lot of time looking at it and it makes the seller more nervous. It also gives you a little bit better bargaining chip because you look like you know what you doing. Even for the guys that don't. Just a tip from your Uncle Savage
If you pull up and you see the frame of what used to be a bike after being torched, ask questions, "was this burnt for insurance purposes", it's certainly not a deal breaker.
I don't really like to answer the "why are you selling it" question ❓ A lot of the time people ask that hoping for "I need the money 💰" answer. Then the low balling commences. Love your channel 🤩.
Thanks for the tips. I buy and sell bikes frequently because I like to ride all different kinds. I thought I was pretty savvy but I picked up a couple of good tips. The title photos is great because I often travel several hours to see a bike and have been disappointed several times. Good Video.
My father always use to say when you are buying used vehicle/motorcycle you are buying the owner in a sense.If you pull up to the persons house and they house looks beat and isn't maintained what make you think they maintained a motorcycle? the best stuff I've bought has been from old guys in nice neighborhoods/houses.They have the money to maintain there toys and a lot of times go to the dealer only...Younger kids might not have as much disposable income so changing the fluids on a motorcycle isn't at the top pf there list.It isnt always fool proof but something to think about.
Hey I just found your channel and I am already a fan. I just found an '86 Virago for $1300 that needs some work so this is incredibly helpful. Thank you
Dang Shaun I wish you had a Black Yamaha Raider I would buy it from you because you are so honest and knowledgeable and VERY nice to help inform the public.
You would probabaly vote for Trump, too. He is so honest and knowledgable, and smart, and has a gift for second guessing America's scientists. LOL SMH at you. Then again, do I detect sarcasm in your post?
Excellent video. You touched on some very good points. It took a couple of time, me going to look at a vehicle or bike, to find out they didn't have the title. Can't believe people try that. Now I ask first, before making the trip. Thanks for the video.
I do all my own services... But I keep the Castrol bottles as proof I did them at the regular intervals! I've got quite a few empties stacked up now lol...
$2000 to replace fork sliders? That's insane when they only cost around $215 each for that model. And that's the OEM parts from Harley Davidson. And I'd much rather buy a beat up Harley for cheap and throw a few dollars at it to make it look and run good again then sell it. Done it a couple times. Also, on Harleys the VIN is on the engine also. If they don't match up that doesn't mean it's stolen. It could just be a replacement engine. And in MS whatever the frame VIN identifies it as is what it's titled as. Doesn't matter if it's a 1977 FLH frame modified to fit an evo engine from a 92 Fatboy.
Regardless of any list, I never buy a bike unless i can take a test drive but always carry license with an unlimited motorcycle endorsement. You can hear and feel the motor and tranny working along with the brakes, lights, etc. etc. Nothing takes the place of a test drive in my opinion. Test drives never let me down for the past 50 years of riding/buying. Why didn't you mention this critical "inspection" item on your list? Some sellers don't like test rides so be prepared to put some cash down or sign an agreement that if you dump it, you buy it!!! You gotta be willing to put yourself in the seller's shoes too.
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"If the owner calls you back and says the deal is off, it's not a deal breaker just ask some more questions, get to know him more."
"You go there, you find the seller doesn't actually have a bike to sell, he's just baiting you into his cellar- It's not a huge deal, just go with him, do what he wants. It'll cost you a couple hundred bucks in therapy to get over it but again, not a deal breaker..."
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21 years old going through my mid-life crisis and about to buy my first motorcycle. Very informative video
me too man. me too.
Thats an early life crisis
@@Dyttii for some of us it’s midlife
@@Bananwafflesbro 20 is just now living 😂
Guess it’s pre-life crisis, feelin it too honestly.
I took a shot every time you said deal breaker and decided not to buy the bike. Thanks for the video I must walk home.
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For real I did the same damn thing
I never heard him say deal breaker. He said “not a deal breaker” several times though. I don’t understand what people are picking these videos apart for lol nothing he’s said is invalid
A used bike is always going to have scatches I can deal with a few scratches as long as it is mechanicaly sound
Jerry Setlerr ^^^
It’s not a deal breaker
Drag marks and scratches are two totally different things make sure you tell new rides that
That's what I was thinking. I just bought a 2006 Softail Deluxe and it had a ton of surface rust and a few scratches here and there. Just minor scratches. But the surface rust got him to knock $2,000 off the price.. 2 days of me cleaning that it looks show room condition now.
@@Savage1776_ what did you use to clean the rust off?
((bike is on fire)) "not a big deal breaker, talk him down a couple hundred bucks"...
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True list: Engine starts and runs, no weird sounds, revvs quickly as expected, no significant oil leaking (add cost to put new seals), oil isn't exceptionally dirty on dipstick
Trans: Shifts smooth but doesn't feel worn out, not leaking, no jerking (possibly broken tooth)
Suspension: Stiff, no side wobble, feels tight (not as in uncomfortable, as in no egging out bolt holes or excessively worn parts)
Electrical: Lights work without flickering, turn signals not too beat up, battery started good (and after test drive start it again while its warm, this also lets you know if the alternator is working), speedometer works (or YOLO)
Tag: Up to date otherwise it often costs a ton in government harrasment taxes, title in their name and matches the numbers and model/engine size
cosmetic: dents/paint/scrapes, these really don't matter and probably already reflected in price tag.
You'll replace the tires soon anyways, that's a wearable item about the same as fuel in the tank
"The guy sold you a bicycle with a cardboard cut-out of an engine? Not a deal breaker."
Hey at least you won't have any engine trouble!
Guess who's not paying for fuel
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The bike wont start "it's not a huge deal breaker"
if it's missing a tire, you should run away but it's not a deal breaker
Depends on the bike and who you're buying it from. If it's a carbeurated bike owned by a guy who just does't know how to clean carbs, you're golden
i bought a sport 4 wheeler from someone like that, he bought it brand new, rode it a hand full of times, and let it sit in his garage for 5 years... was in pristine condition, just needed air in the tires and the carb cleaned... gave him 1,000.00 for it, sold it for 3,000.00 about a year later after i had my fun with it. i did put new back tires on it before i sold it... all in all i was in about 12-1300 bucks... easily doubled my money and then some, AND I GOT TO ENJOY THAT TOY for a year... i kinda wish i still had it, i know i'm gonna miss it next riding season, it's too hot for that shit now, but i know i'm gonna miss it. probably gonna get a dirtbike this time though.
if it's missing an engine "it's not a deal breaker"
If the seat is all slimy it’s not a huge deal. It’s not a deal breaker.
sum of the video.... nothings a deal breaker
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But you could be paying double at the end
Great video! About to buy my first bike. 43 and have zero knowledge, my wife says I'm having a midlife crisis but I have always wanted to ride. Doing plenty of research and this video has helped me tremendously. Thank you!!!!!
awesome, i have a bunch of other videos that could help also, its not a midlife crisis every man every where wants a motorcycles
I strongly recommend you find someone who knows what to look for on a used motorcycle. While minor drop damage may be insignificant, something like notchy steering head bearings could get you killed.
I bought a bike at 24 and my girlfriend and her step dad said I was having a "quarter" life crisis. Even though I took the MSF course at 21! People will always talk, even your loved ones. Since this was 9 months ago I hope you're loving your first bike!
Lol wife said the same thing and ive been riding all my life (28)
@Peter Angles lol. Been riding for 3 years now. It's been wonderful. And I still have all of my limbs....
To test your triple tree bearings, roll the bike backwards to forward then squeeze the front break while watching the triple tree. If it's bad, the tree will pop upwards. Bearings will need to be replaced.
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The best deals are the "fix-eruppers" when there's really nothing wrong just needs a carb clean or valve cover gasket lol. They are easy flips.
Exactly what my pops told me.
He easy over estimated everything except tire cost but then he said 50 for a mount and balance I just had my bikes tires done 26 for m&b
Thanks for the info, especially about the title stuff! That's an often-overlooked element that NEEDS to be there. I asked a guy on craigslist to see pics of his title and VIN stamped on the bike, and he got all defensive. He ended up flaking and deciding not to sell. He might not have been a scammer, just maybe he wasn't quite ready to part with his ride yet. But beware, there are scammers out there. Make sure the title and VIN are legit.
If the bike is possessed and was salvaged from a melted nuclear reactor and you turned green after looking at it, "not a deal breaker"
just be sure to ask a few more questions
Added visibility at night, all the cool kids pay extra for under-glow, you get all-glow thrown in for free!
The reason he says “not a deal breaker” is because a deal is a flexible thing. These are all points that alter the deal, but there’s almost always the possibility of a deal.
He is a used motorcycle dealer after all...
I didn't take many of comments as negative, just guys busting chops, the guy does a great job describing what to look for and I hope he doesn't change his style. I say the more people bust chops, the more enjoyable the video is. But then again, my friends and I are at the mental age of 14 and do that to each other all the time. LOL
I think the whole idea with any transaction like this whether it be a motorcycle or a car or boat, tractor, house, whatever. Little things don’t have to be deal breakers if the price is right. Some people can afford small repairs. Some people like buying projects to work on 🤷🏼♂️ for other people bad tires and a scratch or two could be enough to send them running back home!
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I'm 73 years old and I have a 1996 Harley Davidson Softail which is getting to heavy for me and want to trade down to a Sportster. Your video is going to help me a lot and I plan on printing the check list. Thank you very much from Massachusetts. Gil
The guy selling the bike for a friend one always has me suspicious.
LMFAO. Who gets their friend to sell anything ever.. just do it yourself what's the hang up
@@theimmortalsleazus8057 they do that to hide shit and rip you off thats why
@@theimmortalsleazus8057 Yes. As nonya biz said, they don't want to meet you because they are probably a poor liar and would rather have their friend meet you and act dumb about the bike. You go and ask their friend questions about the bike and he just shrugs his shoulders and says he doesn't know anything about the bike. Just walk away from the deal unless the bike is in really good shape and cheap.....Of course verify the vin and title etc too.
@@Mr.M1STER I have actually done this myself when i was selling my car while i was in the military. Had to leave it behind and didnt get it sold so i had my buddy do the mettings and everything for me and if the buyer had any questions that he didnt know, he would call me with them there
@@beardicus Well as with anything, of course there are genuine cases also.
I was ripped off on my first bike. Wish I would have seen this video before I bought the bike. Very informational video thanks for the heads up brother safe riding.
How did you get ripped off, exactly?
"not a deal breaker" should have talked him down a couple hundred bucks :/
the bike i checked out was on fire, its not a deal breaker but did add a couple hounded bucks. great informative video btw.
2:46 “another thing just common sense...make sure it’s leaking fluids” haha
Harleys and Volkswagens, if it ain't leaking fluid , it's out of fluid. 🤔
Not a deal breaker if it isn’t leaking 😂
Ha! Just made a deal on a 08 Sportster. Wish I'd seen this video before hand. Good info on checking both VIN's. In my experience tires and fluids need to be changed unless new because you need to know how old they are before you ride (maintenance baseline). I didn't but should have checked the fuse box to see if it's been accessed (should be nice and dirty). I did check the tailpipe for black residue (rich). Didn't smell rich or lean on startup. I checked the steering head bearings. If it was an expensive bike I normally get a compression test and a leak down too (Harley does a pre-buy inspection for a couple of hundred and well worth it.) Less expensive is to pull a plug and look at the color and do a test ride. The Sporty was priced low and parts are everywhere so if I screwed up it won't be a disaster. I like your idea of bringing a friend or getting a friend to look it over too. Bikes are so much fun (40 years and counting :) Good video as always... YIC
I just bought a 1992 Honda shadow missing hardware carbs need rebuild needs paint. He wanted 500 I paid 200. I soaked engine because exhaust valve in front cylinder was stuck. Fired her up with starter fluid. I'm about 500 in total with parts I dint count the labor because it's fun. Found all used parts on Ebay. Swingarm, shocks, hardware. Carb kit, fork seals, jb weld for minor crack in case, and a new battery. A few other odd and ends. Got me a nice running bike for 500 bucks. Need to title it. It is a salvage rebuilt title. Who cares it's all strait and it was cheap.
Cant beat a good deal..
Shadows are easy to work on and parts are plentiful. Regardless of year. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Great video...
I have always told the owner of the bike I am interested in to not start it before I get there.
I then feel the pipes and engine to make sure it is a true cold start.
That's the first modern Harley I've seen in a while that looks awesome to me.
Cam Brown Check out the new softail street bobs, they look really similar.
great video only thing you missed is bring a small flashlight to see better in the fuel tank and look for oil leaks under the motor
Went to look a Sportster recently. Bike looked good, sounded good, clean with a few scratches. Guy didn't want me to take it for a ride and that was a sticking point, then the guy started telling me about how many Burn Out Contest he won with this Sportster. I walked immediately. Used is fine but no way I wanted to buy a bike some Jackleg abused like that.
Only stupid people buy any vehicles without taking a test drive. You did the right thing.
I really didn't watch the whole video, (I am a rider with over 50 years experience) but one of the most important tips of buying a used motorcycle is to ensure that you arrive when the bike has been sitting a while and has not been started or run before you arrive. The engine must be COLD. Instruct the seller to NOT start the bike before hand. Touch engine and exhaust ! This will assure you that on older bikes the choke and carburator(s) will function as they should and will start the bike with minimal crank overs. If that doesn't happen, ask questions. Also, before even going to look at any bike, ask if owner has ALL maintenance records on file. If not, don't even go. Excuses don't cut it.
"All maintenance records on file"
Never heard a dumber comment when it comes to a bike.
You guys are honest and humble people,.. I like that.. your are giving information to people, and not concern about who they are buying from
"No scratches" *laughs in dual-sport*. True about the whole "IT's a motorcyle!" bit though, I felt the same way buying my first car.
Lance Littleton literally what I did when I got my mustang, straight piped v8, I noticed the windshield was cracked and the brake didn’t work. But later on a vacuum leak started and the fuel pump died.
@@SantiRecon308 Relatable i bought a twin turbo b4 once, took it around the block and it drove sweet, then it was driving home the thing blew up and it turned out the car couldn't run for more than 10 minutes before overheating and the headgasket was blown. :(
“Met the guy at a McDonald’s parking lot, he doesn’t have the bike with him but a photo album of the bike, promised me he would show me the bike after I pay. we just have to ask those questions; when did you take the pictures ? Are these top quality photos? Will I ever own or see the bike itself ? again not a huge dealbreaker”
First, thanks, I've been watching your videos (bikes and beards) and enjoy them (some of them are a little long when it comes to the part when you're riding in the van to look at a bike). This video is pretty much covers all the things to look for when buying a used bike except you never fired the engine up. You also didn't mention anything about what you should be looking for during the test drive. And in watching your videos I hardly ever hear/see you doing such a thorough examination... So thanks, I enjoy the videos, keep it in the wind.
The bike doesn't even exist? Not a deal breaker
It might be invisible
Underrated!
At about 3:25, text on vid says there is a link to full checklist in description. I don't see a link to any checklist. (assume it's a list of things to look at when evaluating used bike)
no idea
Agree no where to be found
not a huge deal breaker, a new list will cost you a couple hundred bucks
lmao
Yah, it's not there. You've been lied to, not a huge deal breaker...
Great informative video. I recently purchased a 2011 Yamaha V-Star 650 custom V-twin. When I went to the dealership I took a flashlight to thoroughly examine every inch of the motorcycle. I noticed that there was a little mud or dirt under the fenders and I told the dealer I had reservations of purchasing the machine. I also asked for its service records and I was pleasantly surprised that the former owner took great pains for its scheduled maintenance to even including trueing its spokes. To clinch the deal I told the dealership that because I thought that it had been ridden on a dirt road possibly once I wanted a new battery installed and take a few dollars off the asking price. It had super low miles ridden, new Metzler tires and ran great and also because I had bought MANY motorcycles from that dealer, they gave me a few accommodations. I am glad that I brought a high powered flashlight with me because it saved me a lot of money. I guess I have OCBD. I want my motorcycles perfectly clean because after each ride I put the bike on a jack stand and clean each spoke or every link in a chain! LOL
Let me guess, Your an engineer?
Ain’t nobody got time for dat!
Why I learned from this video......nothing is a deal breaker
Why?
Generally there are not many things that can't be fixed on a bike that would make them an actual deal breaker. You have to be confident enough to make the seller aware of any flaws though and make him an offer accordingly.
I watched this video while waiting for the owner of a bike. Just before looking at the bike got to the part about the fork seals and stopped watching. Then when inspecting the bike...(the owner said the clutch was going bad and breaks but said nothing about the forks) went to look at them..both not one but both were slimy! He even played off how gone the clutch actually was. Basically was lied to and only got half the truth about the bike. This video helped me a lot! Thanks for the help! :) I didn't buy the bike.
Something that I apply when buying ANY used vehicle; INSPECT THE ENGINE. Seriously; it doesn't matter the condition of the body or a car's interior. The cleanliness of the engine and transmission will tell you more about how well they took care of the vehicle than anything else. If the engine is dirty or rusty, they either didn't take care of the vehicle or they cheap-skated it. If it's about the usual amount of dirt or rust, then it's likely the same as most other used vehicles; runs good, not likely to have any immediate problems. If it's in excellent condition, that means they took care of it well and is likely worth every dollar they're asking.
@@GoogleDoesEvil Dirt can be used to hide problems, like oil leaks.
Great video and sound advice. Those “couple hundred bucks” sure do add up! 😅
Yep....2-4-6-8....Gets there PDQ 😬
Also keep in mind that some people will put additives to stop the leaking, instead of actually fixing it. It’s frustrating that people do this, and later on you will have to deal with that problem later on. Stop leak products only add more problems down the road, might not then but it will later on or sooner.
I'm a new biker with not much knowledge on bike mechanics. Few months ago, I saw an ad on Craigslist for an 87 Yamaha Virago 535xv for $1800. It only had 1200 miles on it. I was astonished at the deal and was sold by the sincerety of the owner. It's been 4 months since I bought the bike and I've only had 30 minutes of headache free riding. I'm planning to sell it now since it has hidden electrical issues that I can't fix and I don't want to pay lot of 💰 for. Also, the owner, although initially texting back, has not answered my phone for the last 2.5 months. Thanks for this video. I'm planning on get another bike soon.
The bike your using for your example here is sooo nice i love that just plain jane style with apes and whitewalls.
I bought my '78 Yamaha SR500 over the internet and only saw pictures, almost 20 years ago. 1) It's a Yamaha 2) It was pristine 3) the SR500 is a simple, bullet proof bike. It's almost 50 years old and it's still my daily ride.
-Dont make the “WOW, a motorcycle” emotional purchase. -Check Everywhere for scrapes and dents (indications of accident or drops). -ALWAYS VERIFY VIN & Title. -Thoroughly inspect for leaks. -Check under seat. -Inspect Tires, Break pads and lines, and Fork Seals.
Also keep in mind that every price he gives, if you can do the work yourself you're looking at 1/4 the price or free.
It’s not a deal breaker.
For sure saving a couple hundred bucks if you do it yourself.
If I took the tip on not buying a motorcycle because of the scratches. I'd never own a bike.. Sean I love you but then that's not a priority on things to look for. You want to check the brakes and the tires and clutch does it start up without issue? does it backfire?.. what do the spark plugs look like? I like to pull out the dipstick and make sure that the oils not milky white and creamy. Also does the person selling it to you have any service records or are they mechanically inclined and took care of these things. These are the little things I look for.
thank you for doing this. I come to university of RUclips daily to research current issues in my life. Currently looking for a used Vulcan. This video helped me big time. God Bless what you do!
No huge deals or deal breakers at all! Nice!
I laid my Heritage classic down in the garage last year. I wanted to sweep the floor so I moved the bike up a few feet. I didn't notice the kickstand move up. Well over she went. No damage. She went over easy.
That has hapened to the best of us. A friend dropped his Goldwing on a slope. Didn't realize he should have put it in gear. Rolled forward, off the sidestand, his buds scrambled to catch it, but too late. Minor damage but embarassing nevertheless.
Make sure you also ask the rider questions about himself. How have you been feeling lately? Whens the last time you called your grandma? You paid off that mortgage yet?
Rewatching this classic vid. Lol. I love that ultra classic up for sale. The vids are awesome as always!!!
I have a 2012 NC700X Honda for sale. Runs like new, recent service, new tires/chain/battery. Has a windscreen. 18,000 miles. 65-70mpg. Listed for $3500. Obo.
This is great, thanks man. I’m looking to get a bike soon. Very helpful.
Great informative video, asking some advice here , my mechanic is selling a 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 for a customer very clean and stock comes with bags floor boards and wind screen in the color of dark grey, I am not experienced at buying used bikes but i did do an inspection of the underside of the bike and had found a thick oil film stain expanding out from the drain plug covering half of the engine crankcase. Now to me this might be an indication of over tightening the drain plug bolt and ether a crack in the crank case or stripped drain plug hole threads causing the oil sweating, the mechanic says that it is probably caused from the last oil change A YEAR AGO , the tires look like they may have one season left to go, by the fall they will have to be changed, the front brake pads look okay , i did not see any indications of a drop but id have to do a better inspection of the entire bike, after seeing the oil film on the bottom of the crank case coming from the drain plug I did not go any further , can't tell weather the casting is cracked or weather its just residue left over from the last oil change he wants $3500.00 what is your opinion on this one going by what iv just described ?
i am buying a honda shadow 750 a few things have to be done to it not a bad thing just oil spark plugs and clean up on it great video sean thanks
Is there a god damn deal breaker?
If the price of repairs and cost of bike is more than value dont buy it
If the bike falls over and the seller says don't worry it does that all the time.
If its on blocks and won't start.....it's not a deal breaker, but just be aware and ask questions.... probably going to be a couple hundred bucks to fix... no worries....
If you ask how much is it and he says how much do you have and then you say really how much is it and then he says I said how much do you have and then proceeds to pull out a humongous wrench and a sheriff's badge. That just might be a deal breaker.
yea, this Sean guy rarely knows what he's talking about. I really don't know how he ended up employed at a motorcycle dealership. he as a person, is one big deal breaker
"Nobody paints a perfectly good motorcycle ", come on Shawn,we paint our Harleys because we want to! Weather the previous paint was original or not most real(old school) Harley riders personalize their scooters to their taste! Maranatha, Greetings from Tampa Florida 😎
If I don't hear the lifters clacking from across the parking lot , we're pretty good . That's what I'm getting out of this .
Thanx Sean. The receive inspect points are well noted. Peace.
Hey i appreciate the video. I am super excited to look at my 1st few bikes this weekend and this will help
This video is spot on! I didn't follow these recommendations and bought a used rebel from a dealership bike mechanic. He started it up and it "ran good without issues," I took it home and before I got it off the trailer it lost all electric and now I have a completely dead bike. Put new battery in and still dead. Check fuses, all good. Wasted money on a bike because I trusted a dealership mechanic that this was a good bike.
3:47min I had my forks start leaking on my 98 Yamaha 650, which cost me 300 bucks to rebuild at the dealership. I got 47 k miles on it and still going strong.
Patience is the key. Too many lower mileage, well maintained bikes out there at a fair price.
Love those white wall tires!
I like the turn the handlebar to check for worn bushings and the check the gas cap. I looked at a road king where the dude said it was never down. Found a gouge on the engine guard where it would touch the ground. Maybe scraping in sharp turns. Also half of a clutch lever broken off. He probably broke the clutch lever splitting lanes. This is CA.
I have bought 7 used Harley in my time always good deals never had a problem
@Peter Angles I meant major problems
I bought my Yamaha Stryker new in pearl white and resprayed it black because the black ones at the time were more money.
I’m about to pull the trigger on a 93 FB 8k miles. Lots of chrome and aftermarket parts. $4500 🤤😏
Just bought a harley 48 everything was good took a 200 mile roadtrip everything was running perfect came back home next day battery shut off On my way! To work battery wasn’t charging turned out to be the stator and regulator 500 bucks with labor.........
Thanks for the info. I'm going to be looking at a 2000 Honda 750 American Classic on Tuesday. This info should be helpful.
At Least the guy Tried to Help Someone NOT get ripped off,... Just wish he would have let us Know at WHAT Mileage Certain Items Fail, such as the Chain, Brakes, Fork Seals, Etc... and what to look for on the Spark plugs, to let us know if the Motor has Internal problems... But STILL Nice that He took the time to TRY and Help Others. :)
The video I've been waiting for!
You can also fake it till you make it. Even if you're not a mechanic pull the dipstick check the oil look at the spark plugs. If there's any kind of corrosion or rust bring it up. Just nip pic for a while and spend a lot of time looking at it and it makes the seller more nervous. It also gives you a little bit better bargaining chip because you look like you know what you doing. Even for the guys that don't. Just a tip from your Uncle Savage
If you pull up and you see the frame of what used to be a bike after being torched, ask questions, "was this burnt for insurance purposes", it's certainly not a deal breaker.
Reading a verse before every ride. What a great routine! Thanks for giving me the idea!
If the bike is stolen not a HUGE deal or a deal breaker just know what your getting into.
I don't really like to answer the "why are you selling it" question ❓ A lot of the time people ask that hoping for "I need the money 💰" answer. Then the low balling commences. Love your channel 🤩.
also you can siphon some engine oil into a small container and send to for analysis, if it turns OK.
Make sure the deal isn't broken, a bent or scratched deal can be fixed but once it's broke - it's a huge deal. After market deals are a big red flag !
That's a sweet bike! Great video and information!
Thank you for all the great info. I will definitely use all your advice.
Thanks for the tips. I buy and sell bikes frequently because I like to ride all different kinds. I thought I was pretty savvy but I picked up a couple of good tips. The title photos is great because I often travel several hours to see a bike and have been disappointed several times. Good Video.
If you see an ad for a cbr 300 and you show up and its actually a moped - not a huge deal breaker, just check for scratches.
You really helped me, i was thinking to buy one but i didn’t knw anything about it.
Thank you very much 😊
My father always use to say when you are buying used vehicle/motorcycle you are buying the owner in a sense.If you pull up to the persons house and they house looks beat and isn't maintained what make you think they maintained a motorcycle? the best stuff I've bought has been from old guys in nice neighborhoods/houses.They have the money to maintain there toys and a lot of times go to the dealer only...Younger kids might not have as much disposable income so changing the fluids on a motorcycle isn't at the top pf there list.It isnt always fool proof but something to think about.
Hey I just found your channel and I am already a fan. I just found an '86 Virago for $1300 that needs some work so this is incredibly helpful. Thank you
Deal breaker ! This is an excellent video Sean !
Watch 2 vids on the same subject before this and this had way better info. Good job
Dang Shaun I wish you had a Black Yamaha Raider I would buy it from you because you are so honest and knowledgeable and VERY nice to help inform the public.
You would probabaly vote for Trump, too. He is so honest and knowledgable, and smart, and has a gift for second guessing America's scientists. LOL SMH at you.
Then again, do I detect sarcasm in your post?
This is a great video, Sean. Thank you for this.
Nice video with good information, it would be nice to have a link to the list. Thanks.
I dig the Schwinn front wheel. Should put some playing cards in the spokes.
Excellent video. You touched on some very good points. It took a couple of time, me going to look at a vehicle or bike, to find out they didn't have the title. Can't believe people try that. Now I ask first, before making the trip. Thanks for the video.
Ask for service records :-)
Who keeps service records?
@@johnnywishbone932 Responsible owners.
@@Tuppoo94 Boring!!
@@johnnywishbone932 I guess I won't buy a bike from you.
I do all my own services... But I keep the Castrol bottles as proof I did them at the regular intervals! I've got quite a few empties stacked up now lol...
Nice vid. Thanks. I didn't see, however, a checklist in the links as noted in the video. Thanks again.
$2000 to replace fork sliders? That's insane when they only cost around $215 each for that model. And that's the OEM parts from Harley Davidson. And I'd much rather buy a beat up Harley for cheap and throw a few dollars at it to make it look and run good again then sell it. Done it a couple times. Also, on Harleys the VIN is on the engine also. If they don't match up that doesn't mean it's stolen. It could just be a replacement engine. And in MS whatever the frame VIN identifies it as is what it's titled as. Doesn't matter if it's a 1977 FLH frame modified to fit an evo engine from a 92 Fatboy.
I don't know anything about buying a bike... this is good information
Regardless of any list, I never buy a bike unless i can take a test drive but always carry license with an unlimited motorcycle endorsement. You can hear and feel the motor and tranny working along with the brakes, lights, etc. etc. Nothing takes the place of a test drive in my opinion. Test drives never let me down for the past 50 years of riding/buying. Why didn't you mention this critical "inspection" item on your list? Some sellers don't like test rides so be prepared to put some cash down or sign an agreement that if you dump it, you buy it!!! You gotta be willing to put yourself in the seller's shoes too.
Stds. Not a deal breaker, but that should be established up front. Could be a couple hundred bucks
I totally needed to see this. Thank you.