Leica Q2: Did I Make A Mistake?
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Good review, but your point on the digital zoom is not correct. Compression is not a result of focal length, but distance from your subject. If you take a photo with a 50mm lens and another with a 28mm cropped until your frame or subject matches the size of your 50, then you will have the same amount of compression. This is also the reason why the framelines on an optical viewfinder (m-rangefinders, xpro) will change sizes if you switch lenses. Knowing this principle, you can use the Q2 as 35/50mm camera with "out of frame visibility".
The Q line of cameras are phenomenal. I'm rocking my Q2 Monochrom and I had the Q1. I'll probably pick up a Q3 when it comes out or if its not much of an upgrade grab a Q2 (color). Its hard to quantify why its worth the money to people who have never owned a Leica before, but the files do have a look to them that I prefer and the feel of the camera is unreal. It makes you want to use it
I’ve had my Q2 for well over a year now and am still in love with it. But you are spot on as regards the AWB…. It is very odd…. Grey card and fixed WB do work fine and as my files are RAW I can always adjust if needed.
I've had my Q2 for a year and it's still a joy to use. No regrets at all. The image quality continues to astonish me. I don't have a problem with the AWB at all but I'm with you on the digital zoom and never use this feature.
Yeah in my opinion they should release a version with a 50mm. Could be even smaller, and would allow someone (not me, I'm not made of money 😂) to have one of each and have 90% of shots covered
It’s me or I don’t see any different, AT ALL, with the pictures you have with the X100V?
X100V is better 😂
@@MrDwightsimon you won’t distinguish a picture taken from an X100V than one taken by a Leica in your entire life. Or until you realise Fuji has more pleasant color science.
Great video Mike. I have the same thoughts and opinion about my Q2 monochrome. And your thought about the Leica look I think you are on the right track. That's also my thought and if you look at vintage lenses the falloff of the bokeh shooting wide open is mostly the thing people interpret as charataristic compared to modern lenses from Sony, Canon which are called clincal.
I also talked to a Leica employee and he had the chance to talk to the engineers in Wetzlar. And their highest priority regarding lens optic design is to have the best image quality shooting wide open. Usually a lens performs better when stopping down the aperture.
Not sure if that's the case, since I'm not in a position to test our 10k€ Leica lenses, but I found that philosophy quite interesting :)
It’s a awesome camera! I’d buy one just for the build quality and engineering if I had spare few grand . Most high end products are not really worth the money they are but if you like it and can afford it then buy it. I spent over 6k on a mountain bike when a £1000 would have done the job but I wanted it. Enjoy that camera Mike , you deserve it 👍📷
Love this. Just got mine yesterday and i am absolutely blown away by the image quality. I also have an x100v, and it just never seemed to live up to the hype. This is amazing!
Many years ago, a pro photographer told me they always set the white balance to cloudy, unless you are shooting indoors under tungsten lighting. For those that remember film, you didn't have the option to change white balance to suit different shooting environments, typically you would just buy a daylight balanced film and that was it.
If your set to cloudy and the sun comes out, that would produce a warmer looking image, but is that a bad thing? the same would have happened in film days, but now in the digital era, if you're shooting raw, you can change it in Lightroom anyway.
Bit late to this, but great video. Just got a Q2 finally and absolutely love it. I put the 35mm zoom frame up but only shoot raw so I’m using them as frame lines for my shot like you would frame lines on an M body. Hope that makes sense. I like the framing of the lines but am happy to know I can shoot outside the frame lines cause the raw file will show the full frame of the original shot.
Love each of these takes mate, some details I haven't heard mentioned like display issues with the black bar - those are the details which would grate on some people!
Thanks George! Appreciate that.
Ps. Thanks for the thumbnail inspiration 😂
Best review I've seen on the Q2: thanks for giving us specific use-cases for how YOU use the camera -- and not just regurgitating specs. Awesome photos too.
Appreciate that Cole. Glad you liked the video.
Always good, well-paced, informative videos, Mike. My husband urges me to get a Q2 but I can’t justify it as a hobbyist photographer. Btw, really enjoying your newsletters, too.
What other camera + lenses might you consider getting? What types of subjects might you shoot?
I have a wide range of cameras (Canon & Nikon DSLRs, and 5 Leicas: M6 TTL film, the digital CL, SL2, M11, & Q2 Monochrom). All the Leicas are robust, excellent, and simple, but the Q2 Monochrom is the camera I tend to gravitate to. It feels like an old school camera (which I like) and the image quality is superb. It’s reasonably compact. If I didn’t have the other digital cameras, I’d get a Leica Q2.
I thought the Q2’s fixed 28 mm lens would be severely limiting, but it can be liberating because you don’t need to think about which lens to mount on the camera. You just go and shoot with what works with that camera. The Macro feature is actually quite useful, but stopping down helps obtain a useful depth of field in that case.
Another option might be the tiny 24 MP Leica CL. It is quite a bit smaller than the Q2 (the Q2 isn’t huge) and has removable L mount lenses. The CL system has recently been discontinued, so it and the Leica TL lenses can be found at much more reasonable prices (I was able to buy all 6 Leica TL lenses, most at much less than the new list price). The Leica TL 18 mm f/2.8 lens (acts like a 28 mm due to the APS-C sensor crop factor) is a tiny but an excellent lens (the CL + TL 18 f/2.8 can be brought anywhere). Sigma’s I DG DN contemporary L mount lenses work on the CL too and are quite inexpensive. I recommend getting the Leica CL handgrip and a spare battery or two if you walk around all day with a camera. The TL 35 mm f/1.4 is sharp (acts like a 50) and the Macro TL 60 mm f/2.8 is an excellent “90” telephoto and Macro lens (at closest focus, imaging a 35 mm negative completely fills the CL sensor with the TL 60). The CL is clean (just enough buttons on it to work well and not hard to memorize) and like all modern Leica digital cameras, the menu system is simple and easy to navigate.
Completely concur with your take on the crops. I have a monochrom copy and don't experience the white balance issue.
I bought a second hand Q as a back-up camera and to have the possibility, to shoot video ad hoc plus to have the macro feature too. I've tried many times to make it my EDC, but I'm so used to my M-P240 or M240, so they do the daily job. Is the Summilux a 28 mm or a 24 mm. It's a 28 mm for sure, because I can compare with my Elmar M 3.8/24, which is wider. My personal tip for an M: consider the M-P240 over the M10 or even the M11. I never leave home without my M-P240. Your street shots are great. That's all. Keep on rolling!
Appreciate the comment Paul! That's interesting to think about regarding the MP240 I'll have a look! Thanks for the kind words about my images.
Thank you for your informative video and your Honesty, I totally understand were your coming from. I am seriously considering getting the Q2, I had a m-9 when they came out with a 28mm f2 and a 50mm f1.4 loved the camera and the lenses the craftsmanship and quality is outstanding nothing renders light like Leica glass. Sadly I could not get on with the manual focus due to my aging poor eyesight so I sold it. But now with the auto focus I am so tempted to get back into Leica.
Haha yes, totally agree with the flaws of the Q2. Was the main reason I got rid of it, not to mention I found the AF really hit and miss. I noticed the EVF and the LCD also had different white balance / colour cast too.
What did you get instead of it?
Great video, honest and frank. I must admit I'm extremely tempted by the Q2, business has been good this year and it would be like a treat to myself! I'm going to wait it out and see what's in store with the Q3 and go from there. The GAS is strong though :P
Well it’s certainly the best camera I’ve ever used and most enjoyable. Looking forward to seeing whatever you grab next! 👀😂
I having been toying with getting a Q2. This is such a well-balanced videos of pros and cons. Thanks Mike.
@Phillip Banes Thanks but I have no interest in a Sony camera.
@Phillip Banes -I have the non-fixed lens cameras I want.
@Phillip Banes -Because I don't want a Sony. End of story.
@Phillip Banes Not defense just not interested in telling you why I don't want a Sony. Probably time for you to just let it go.
I got my q2 monochrome 1 month ago and love it. Great color photos u toke 😁
I've had my Q2 for a few months now, I am in complete agreement with your thoughts and findings, good and not so good, oh, and your conclusion to keep it is the right one too haha. I also loved my 100V, but unlike you I chose not to keep it. The Q2 'follows' me everywhere in my EDC backpack, that's when its not around my neck. Nothing in this world is perfect, however the Q2 is still the most plesurable camera to use, even with its foibles...... for some of us who are lucky enough to own one. The Q3 when it eventually arrives will have to very very special to warrant an upgrade.
I’m getting used to my Q2 and growing to enjoy carrying it……. But it’s not a patch on my Canon R5. The R5 is vastly superior imo and the tech just nails it every time. But the Q2 is a quirky bit of fun and I’m happy to use it if it’s not important if I ‘miss the shot’.
That fisherman in Istanbul is a real character. He was there when we visited a few weeks ago. I actually gave him a small payment for allowing me to take a photo of him. Great reviews btw.
Aha that’s great! Thanks John
Such a helpful and honest video - thanks Mike
Love your style, and so much information in your videos! Thank you!
Hey Sigurd, thanks for this - hope you enjoy the videos!
Great video. I sold my CL and X100V to get my Q2 and I love it.
Great content as always! Regarding the "Leica Look", when shooting in raw, how do you edit the files to keep the "Leica colors"? After tweaking the exposure/balance, do you simply add some saturation/vibrance back in and the color science does the rest, or do you have to do something else with the color mix? I'm just curious as to the "Leica Look" or "Leica Color Science" everyone is talking about regarding the deep colors and contrast, etc... or is this something more noticeable SOOC when shooting jpegs? I'm also curious as to why my Lightroom app doesn't have a camera/color matching for the Q2 (I think my lightroom only has Adobe RBG available when I import Leica raw files) - What do you use to best match/calibrate the Leica raw files and photo editing app? Any tips on editing these raw files? Thanks!
Totally agree about the white balance! I finally got a Q recently and LOVE it, but the one major struggle point for me has been the auto white balance. In the right conditions, the results are breathtaking; but often the white balance is wayyy off and can be a bit frustrating.
Yep! exactly that - that's why I just stick it on a specific kelvin and leave it haha. Thanks for the comment.
In camera white balance is irrelevant if you shoot RAW.
@@antoniorussell9893 it doesn’t help the experience before you take the photo though
Shoot Raw and forget about white balance in-camera if it bothers you. Can’t say that it’s ever been an issue for me.
@@hedydd2 This isn't a solution for everyone. For street photographers shooting hundreds of images in a day.. remembering the moment is not going to happen consistently. So you're crafting a look with your intent regardless of reality. All fine and well.. if that's what you want to do. For some- myself included- I want to capture the reality before me. In the moment, as I see it. Here, just "figuring it out in raw later" is not feasible.
My biggest issue (with Q2M rather than Q2) is the shutter delay when shooting on burst mode. It's apparent even when using an expensive and fast memory card and is an issue my X100V didn't have. There's about a second's delay before the first image is taken so I have to preempt the scene if I'm using that mode. That said, I love the camera!
Have you checked you settings? I have the Q2M as well but haven’t experienced any shutter or file save delays, and didn’t find anything on the internet. The camera has a delay setting that I will use below 1/13 so I can steady the camera after pressing the shutter button.
I rented a Q2 in Jan '22 and the two points you made about the white balance and the black bar are so true! The WB particularly - I thought it must be faulty! I guess if you shoot in RAW it doesn't really matter but...bit poo for the price
Surely the WB could be fixed with a firmware update? I’m not sure. But glad you also noticed that 😂
@@MikeChudley it’s sad that when I saw it I first thought it must be something wrong with my eyes / brain (some weird Covid thing?) rather than a 5k camera not being able to tell if there are clouds are not 😂
@@checkmybadself hahaha as if you questioned yourself
something to think about with the crops is that it's not the same as a 50mm on a full frame, but it is the same characteristic as a 50mm on m43.
Mike, thanks for the video. My Q2 is a Monochrom version, so AWB isn’t an issue (I _love_that camera, reminds me of my old-school film cameras)? I’ll more carefully check for AWB issues with my color Leica cameras (CL, SL2, and M11).
I don’t have an issue with the Q2’s “crop” lines (I rarely use them). They of course can’t make the Summilux 28 look like longer lenses. The frame lines are there to provide what those fields of view look like to aid framing the subject and because the 47 MP sensor allows significant cropping without much loss of image quality.
I recently picked up a used M6 TTL (I have a decent collection of M lenses) and only ran 1 roll of film through it so far to test the camera (I’ll pick up the processed roll next week). It was an interesting experience shooting film vs. digital again, because each shot really counts. I still have Nikon film SLRs and a lot of decent Nikon glass, but those will stay on the shelf because the the M6 TTL and M lenses are compact. I’m going to pick up a spot light meter for times I can slow down even more and be assured the exposure is optimal.
Honestly, if you love rangefinder cameras, give the M11 serious consideration. It’s fun to use, robust, better battery life than that on the Q2 (which isn’t that bad, and better than that of M10 cameras), a simple menu system, and has an excellent sensor. The downside is that it’s pricey. I’ll be testing the APO Lanthar Voigtländer VM lenses on the M11 soon. The equivalent Leica lenses are excellent, but pricey.
“You are getting a free camera attached to the Summilux lens”. I hear that a lot, but this is false. The 28mm 1.4 Lux for M mount is a completely different lens. It also on a different league. While the Q lens is more like 24mm that the camera crops to 28mm in order to hide the excessive barrel distortion and vignetting, the M lens is a true, optically corrected 28mm with barely any visible distortion.
The Q lens is probably made by Panasonic, as is most of the camera.
100%
The argument is the same for them calling it a 28mm lens. It’s actually just cropped to 28mm but it’s actual feel of the photo is 24mm (compression and subject isolation is that of a 24mm lens not a 28mm lens)
Yes, you did. Remember the price of batteries and the price of maintaining it, specially a M body where you have to send the camera to Germany to calibrate the range finder from time to time.
Would love to see a video of you taking your R6 out again. Could be interesting to see how your photography has changed coming back to it like old times. I know I see and shoot things differently based on what camera I have, weird but would be interesting!
Interesting yeah! I use my r6 literally everyday but not for photos. Maybe a street session with it soon then!
@@MikeChudley stick to the direction you're on now mate, going the right way. Leave the Canon for the videos and the wildlife photographers :D
@@daveincork 😂😂😂
Gotta say I agree with Dave. Your channel over the past year has been amazing. Your most recent video and the direction your taking the channel is spot on 👍
Loved my Q2 but switched to the M11 but kept the Q2M fantastic cameras will I buy a Q3 test if its 60MP. The camera is so portable & built for street.
Re the crops - I had a similar convo with a Leica Store rep. Basically it’s a gateway camera for newbies to Leica. In their wisdom they are trying to make it accessible to newbies who use it as a n occasional point a shoot/ travel camera not pros or you tubers.
I have a Sony A7III with 24mm lens and the field of view of the 28mm Leica Q2 looks identical to me. Cropping with the camera or in post processing give identical results and if one is in doubt it is best to shoot both Raw and JPEG, because only the JPEG is cropped to the user’s choice in-camera.
I have no problem with the black bar or indeed with the white balance. Maybe later firmware has sorted this out. Version 5.0 has just been offered and gives several more significant updates to operation and performance.
The question I ask myself is whether the Q2 is actually ‘better’ than the Sony A7III or A7IV? In most rational ways it is not but it is a highly satisfying camera to use.
You get about 1000 exposure on a 128GB card when shooting JPEG and Raw simultaneously. More is shooting Raw only and massively more shooting JPEG only.
Loved the candor!
Auto WB on Sigma SD10 was terrible too and everybody was raving about this Foveon Sensor camera like Leica's in fact. Battery life was terrible too. Battery grips were even used very expensive.
Great review, couldn’t agree more with everything you said.
I have a Q2 and I totally agree with your comments, both positive and negative. Like you said, the pictures that come out of this camera are so, so good, that's its worth putting up with its faults - such as the white balance and unreliable continuous auto focus. Whilst I don't treat the camera with kid gloves, there are certain inner city areas that I wouldn't use a Leica; it just might attract the sort of attention that I do not need.
Thanks! that's so true about the image quality. I don't care about the WB until I had to make the review and which I thought I should mention it - but besides making this video, the camera produces beautiful files it doesn't matter haha.
One thing is wrong. In New York photography institute's textbook, it mentions the compression from cropping is the same as a standalone telephoto lens.
The image quality most important, and if people think it’s 24 or 28, who cares. And the gimmicks of cropping, just don’t use them. It takes fantastic photos. Yes the auto WB is horrible. I dropped mine which dented the lens hood and put a glitch in the EVF, but it doesn’t appear in the photos. I’m now used to it so I’m not getting it fixed probably because I’m too scared of the price. I did buy a new lens hood to a round one which actually looks better. Cheers for the video Mike and keep taking excellent photos 📷👍🏼
I tend to keep the crop lines at the 35mm setting and shoot it like a 35mm. It feels more like range-finder then because I can move my composition around and really control the edges. I never use the AF on it - compared to standard cameras (Sony A7iii) the AF sucks. It'll work but this camera wants to be driven (and focused) like a manual. You can adjust the color balance on the screen to match the eyepiece easily. Agree AWB is also "meh" -- again back to that principle about driving the camera yourself. Ditto on ISO -- this thing recovers darks like crazy but blows out highlights if you aren't careful.
been renting for a few weeks -- don't think I'll keep it yet. But it is an incredible camera. No doubt about that. And it's a pleasure to shoot on. The way it wants to be used makes for... just a different shooting experience than I've had on my other cameras (Nikons, Sony, Canon full frames). It's less comfortable to hold, it is slower to focus, the AWB is not trustworthy... why the eff do I like shooting on this thing? I shoot in manual, I choose my white balance, and... I really only pull up the camera when I have an intention. I'm slower and my photo count is lower -- but the photos I take are better.
Leica magic is real -- I'm not sure what they do with the lenses and sensor but the files straight out of camera are drippingly beautiful. There is just more... depth and contrast falloff in the details as you move out of the focus plane maybe? I'm not sure. But it really draws attention to what you're focusing on in a way I haven't seen out of any other camera or on any other photo without a real artist behind the post processing.
I think whatever their secret sensor-lens sauce is + a design that guides you to be intentional = leica magic. I'll be spending the next couple weeks carrying around my A7 and trying to shoot it like I did the Leica.
If it was 3K, would be a no brainer of a camera. For 5+, you really have to love it and accept what it is. A leica that is supposed to be controlled on nearly full manual and shot slowly. I can see why people love it. There is something subtle and just good about it.
Nice review -- have fun!
Out of all the comments I get about this stuff, this was spot on haha - I very much agree with all of that. Thanks for the comment and watching!
I `ve shot Leica for 30 years but have held off pulling the trigger on the Q2 because it has the same AF as my SL2s ... which is poor. Is the manual focus easily implemented on the Q2 ?
The lens on the Q's are so outstanding that these other "complaints" are frivolous.
So true.
I’ve had the Q2 for a few months as well but I’ve never had any issues with the Auto WB. The auto WB has been way more accurate than my Canon R5. I’m wondering if maybe you got a bad copy?
Which company do you use to insure your gear?
i"ve had the Q2 for a month. I live in sunny California and am having a devil of a time not blowing the highlights. What settings will prevent that and still give me a bright enough picture?
I use highlight priority most of the time
Hey quick one... How do you get the center curser back to center without having to move the up-down/left-right buttons? On my Sony, you click twice and it goes back to center... I cant figure it out on the Q2?
Hey, double tap - that’s how mine goes back to the centre
@@MikeChudley right, on the screen, but not on the D-PAD. No way on the D-PAD?
Your photos are awesome.
Great review
Leica Magic… really not sure what it is. I use different cameras from major brands including Q2 and M10R. But I still don’t find the so called Leica magic… as soon as you edit your raw/DNG files, I don’t see there are much difference in the outputs… and talking about deep black, even the GRIII can produce it in camera with its highlight weighted exposure. Can you describe what magic do you see comparing to other full frame cameras or even the APCs after editing?
Your content and photographs are great. Do you tend to shoot your street photos at 1.7 or similar? Many street shooters advise shoot at F8 or above.
Hey, thanks! Anywhere between f4-f8 are my favourites 👌🏻
At last. A photographer who finds and discusses issues with the Leica q2. Thanks for manning up and saying it for what it is. For the money these cameras cost, simple issues like WB should not exist.
100%, a shame, because it is a fantastic camera and concept other than that. Personally, the only leicas that are truly worth it and are near flawless cameras(which you would expect for the price) are their film cameras
Nicely said ❤
which camera insurance do you use?
I have the Q2 and very pleased also. I agree, the crop feature is a gimmick - if it represented the crop in the viewfinder, BEFORE pressing the shutter, then that would be worthwhile….maybe in a future firmware update??
I think the a Leica look is Higher Contrast aesthetic with more orange yellows and Maroon Reds, a little more saturated than usual but not as much as Fujifilm, then the Micro Contrast of the Lens + a warmer white balance than base. You can change most of them in post processing of course, but the lens character is signature Leica. They forgo optical perfection for it.
What a good video. thank you
Things I love to hear, thank you!
@@MikeChudley you are more than welcome. Getting my Q2 tomorrow and watched "thousands" of videos today. This one was one of the reasons I' won't have any holidays in my life anymore 😂
I downgraded my Q2 and went back to 2 Q-Ps. All I need for digital street. And yeah, that lens is wider than 28mm. Closer to my 24mm on my Leica M. Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
Somebody needs to have a look at Uncle Tony's Crop factor comparison videos.
I own the X100V and it has a lot of special elements to it like the size of the 35F2, which is a big improvement over the last model. And the neutral density filter’s and leaf shutter make it an outstanding camera.
I mostly shoot on my XT4 anyway, so after doing street photography for some six years now, a 28 mm is something a lot of photographers struggle with, as you’re just too close to your subjects, making you and your subject uncomfortable! I prefer to have an option to switch out lenses, and prefer the 33mmF1.4 APC over the 28mm. I find you just have to get up on people way too much to get the kind of images I like.
So I usually shoot 33 mm (50mm equivalent) as I don’t have to get up on people quite as much. I’ll even go further into the direction of 50 mm (75 mm equivalent) then go wider. I only use my 18 mm 1.4. For certain wide shots where I am willing to risk people & myself being uncomfortable.
But for the most part, I prefer that myself and the subject doesn’t feel pressed upon by getting in their face.
I have no doubt the Leica Q2 is a fine camera, just not fitting in my budget or my reasons for my kind of street photography, not to mention other forms of photography, like nature and architecture. 🖖
I'll be in London in one month with my X100V. Can't wait to shoot some Big Smoke street!
Have fun! The x100v and London is a brilliant combo.
@@MikeChudley Thank you. It is indeed a brilliant place to observe and capture street.
Q2 Ghost or wait for q3 ? I’m willing to prefer the q2 Ghost cause of the value
Nice video, you may be wrong when you speak about cropping and compression. There is no difference from compression point of view if you crop or use another lens, please correct me if I am wrong. Why everyone compares the 1.7 vs 1.4 leica lens?
Maybe should wait for the Q3
Isn’t q3 coming around June?
And Very nice pictures! 😉
Yes
Re: compression and cropping - as long as you shoot from the same distance as a real 50mm lens, the compression will actually be exactly the same.
Compression is based entirely on distance to subject.
DOF and everything won’t be the same as a 50mm f/1.7 etc but compression is the same.
Composing within the 50 mm frame lines on the Q2 = getting the same compression & FOV as 50 mm, is what I understand what would occur. But have no idea how DOF compares to say a 50 mm f1.7?
This is completely untrue. Compression is based odd optical focal length. Cropping doesn’t change optics. I swear you people know nothing about optics.
@@EDHBlvd Nope. Very common misconception. All you have to do is try it yourself. Even cropping a 14mm shot to a 400mm equivalent, you will find that the compression is exactly the same. As long as you crop to the center of the image.
@@EDHBlvd Here. Based entirely on distance to subject. Again, all you have to do is try it yourself. ruclips.net/video/_TTXY1Se0eg/видео.html
@@WestVillage-vv3hg But enters perspective, distorsion and image quality. Cropping is a last resort technique. But if you like it, then take a 48 Mpx camera and a 16mm lens and voilà ! You killed the photographic industry like a smart ass.
Yes! 😎😎
Yes, you did (just answering your title question)
I’ve always laughed at people getting really brand loyal and fighting their corner, and then I’m sat here upset we have lost a Fuji creator 😂 but then again it’s probably just deep down camera envy
RUclipsrs go where the money is ....nothing new
Its a gateway drug to Leica M, claiming you will get an M soon
Your crop-examples are misleading... You won't get 50mm or 75mm compression by shooting from the same distance. But you will get it if you take the same view frame from different distances.
Just a note on the crop, a 28mm cropped to 75mm actually has the compression of a 75mm, but the depth of field becomes the equivalent of a f4.5.
Having said that, I agree that it's a gimmick.
oohhh I didn't know that was it - but it for sure didn't look right. Thanks!
How is that calculated? may I ask?
No it does not. You clearly do not understand optics.
@@EDHBlvd thank me later ruclips.net/video/J2QvEhMsL0I/видео.html
The price comparison to a stand alone 28mm Summilux never makes sense - the Q2 isn’t a 1.4, and the 1.7 is equally far away from the Summicron f/2. But people don’t make that argument because then it doesn’t make the Q2 look like ‘good value’ (which it isn’t)
Also it’s ‘wits about me’ 👍
Few years later we will see videos titled "Why I Decided To Sell My Leica" or "Goodbye Leica" when the next shiny toy comes out.
So are you not using your canon camera anymore?
I use it almost everyday for video
@@MikeChudley ahh ok…. But not for photos?
@@FadedMindz210 yeah but all work related. I used the r6 for an event last week.
If you like and can afford film and believe it will continue to be available, the m6 is worth it. IMO. Been running mine with a v4 35 Cron for almost 34 years. Sorry for the always broke life ahead of you Lol. 📷📷📷📷📷……..📷
"Is this the end camera?" There are people that have solved Gear Acquisition Syndrome? I mean, short of not having any money.
😂😂😂
Not sure I am getting the "Leica look" with my q2, definitely nothing like an M.
You would be hard pressed to find a difference between a cropped 28mm and a real 35mm . except that the real 35mm would have more vignetting at the corners. its just 1.2x factor. And if you use a Leica M camera - you will appreciate the framelines that show up in crop mode. Having that space around allows you to shoot the Q as a Rangefinder camera. YOu can see subjects walk into the frame for better anticipation. And when you go to Lightroom - the default i that cropped image - you can just uncrop it to see the full 28mm. There's a difference compared to just saying when you go Lightroom its still the full image. One can essentially treat the Q2 as a Fullframe 35mm F2.0 lens (in depth of field) .
Overhyped camera, it's a camera for ego... The same image quality can give you Z7 and Z7 II, just get an 28mm f 1.8
you did not make a mistake, but leica did... (some) :-)
Haha true true
If you are selling the XPro100V I will give you the purchase price
You don't need the Q2, you should have got the Q.
I wonder why People buy leicas since Leica made copy pasted lumix camera with at least 250$ slapped on them without any reason other than the logo.
I wonder why people buy Rolex when a Casio will tell the same time for £50
....probably 😂😂
Obviously people can use what they want but the cost of this camera system in comparison to others is not reflected in the quality vs others. Between three to four more times more expensive than an x100v?? No way is it THAT much better. I find Leica cameras ridiculously overpriced for what they are. Your images for example look no different to stuff I'm seeing people put out on old fujifilm systems such as an xt2 or xt3. The difference is always what you enjoy using so if that is this system for you then it probably is worth the money however I owned a Q2 for just over a year and once the excitement died down of owning a Leica camera I realised actually that it wasn't as great as I thought from a general photography point of view and any other photographer worth their salt really didn't give a s*** that I had that red dot on my camera, they just want to see your work and that's what I feel Leica have become now for many, a bit of a posers system when in fact most camera systems will do the same or better for a hell of a lot less money. I had the same issues with AWB and for a £5k camera that's just ridiculous.
I don't want to disappoint you, but cropping 28 mm in the center to 50 mm is exactly the same as shooting 50 mm.
There is no difference besides depth of field. So you can't tell it's not 50 or 75. You can only tell it's not f1.7 or f2.8.
This is nowhere near true. A 50mm lens will produce toughly different compression and DOF
@@ericrjennings dop yes. Compression is identical.
@@ericrjennings if you have same distance to your subject only dof is different. Everything else is the same if you crop.
It's just a fact. Let me find a proof for you
@@ericrjennings ruclips.net/video/ACFV3aHjbyg/видео.html
Here I found one example of explanation.
But there are millions of videos and articles about it.
@@ivanfenenko on a 28mm lens, if you crop to have the same field of view as a 50 it will not be the same. It’s physics. Otherwise why would anyone make anything other than a wide lens with cropping?
Moving closer with a 28 is not the same as a 50 …. There are so many physical differences involved it’s impossible
X100v is better
I 'disliked' the camera! Your review is sort of hide some facts! Oh Leica? A friend who only used a M4-P Analog, made a few comments! 1. That much touted lens f1.7? Can you actually prove it opened to F1.7? It doesn't. ' Leica 'f 1.7' ! Never ever has Leica, had that f stop.! Never. Pentax Ricoh has! Lovely colours! Yes! So has Pentax Ricoh. Don't all get mad! The SL and SL2 have twins in a Panasonic Lumix! It's a good snapshoot camera. My lowly compacts have zooms(useful to me) AUTO light balance that's better. The battery in my 1 Canon, lasts weeks and I'm out hours EACH day that I can. It's Toronto and severe cold still. Some of older compacts, use AA recharge. They lasts days and are low capacity.
I use FILM leica, they are great. Not perfect! Pro wise, I used Nikon-F and Nikkor lenses! Analogue days!
I was given a Lumix camera, tiny, but great colours and very sharp with Leica lens. It died one cold morning. No more focussing! So, for truth test that lens? Real test, not fondling! Cheers!
no mistake, just sell it for 95% of what you paid. that is what I did, then i got a Summicron 35 for my M6. Now I am rocking the x100v for digital ( I only really use it to practice for shooting street analog ). Problem solved