So don’t hate me Sephylon and Nev but if you see this I realized going through the credits I forgot to include you guys in them 💀 I put you guys in the description.
As a Limbo/Caliban main who literally just made a video explaining how Pupsker's recent video on Caliban is uninformed and disingenuous: Thank you for this video. Im so tired of people just perpetuating misinformation and not doing their own legwork to understand a warframe on their own. its okay if you dislike a frame, but just saying "its limbo" is unacceptable for content creators whos entire platform is based on knowing what theyre talking about.
2:05:20 "If played poorly, he will perform poorly." And that's a big difference between Limbo and a lot of the DPS frames. Most of them are FAR easier to play than Limbo, are better at killing dudes (the main point of the game at this point), and therefore attract more people. They're playing Warframe like the run-and-gun looter-shooter it is. You're wanting to play it like a FromSoft game. And that's perfectly fine! I'm not gonna yuk your yum. I mained Limbo from 2016-2018. But. Warframe has changed. The player base has changed. You CLEARLY love Limbo for all he can do, and stretch to make him do things that weren't even in DE's braintrust when Limbo came out. But there are better frames to make those same accomplishments. Even Dante.
Id say in terms of DPS absolutely you have to stretch him with a bunch of extra tools as you are endevouring to ad to his kit as a supliment but once you have that hes decent to great, though ofcause others are at a baseline just better. I outkill a fair few dps frames on the regular with exeption of sevagoth and an a well optimised saryn and mesa. Low enemy density like exterminate he does utterly suck at however. In terms of support he's king of interception(his rift alone will prevent even eximus from interacting with the terminals no stasis needed), defection(banish + heal), index(goal keeping), operative defence(banish + heal), kuva survival(the pods have 0 shield), mobile defence, and excavation without a doubt. Mirror defense hes on par with a frost in defensive ability but not team support. Spy is debatable though luna spy is undeniable because he avoids the frost floors. His adaptability makes him a fantastic defensive pick in Circuit and open world. The new ascension mode he banishes the pod on the final stretch making it guaranteed smooth sailing. Minor benefit but still great usecases. Cetus Drone escort. Sabotage and hive (walks though enviormental effects as if they where not there. walks through laser barriers, destroys the reactor instantly with cataclysm.) Ambulas bossfight kela d thaym. Rescue. (banish the operative)
Major props for explaining the "why" behind everything rather than just showing a loadout to copy. There's an incredible amount of game-breaking stuff in Warframe that's never spread or talked about, partly due to the plague of "just use these mods bro" videos that go around. The builds aren't even very good most of the time either. Then stuff gets changed, some things get nerfed, specific setups become outdated, and people's brains short-circuit until another content creator spoon-feeds them another mediocre loadout. Thanks for being a real one, even if it might not be the greatest thing for the algorithm.
He said that Breach Surge was S tier on Garuda, with nothing else working at all, but I put Reave on her, and it feels so much better, and makes her Bleed Procs kill at level cap in seconds without buildup.
This is such a fantastic kit overview, that it provides an active looking glass into the current state of the game. I'm an equinox main and have actively seen how much damage Dante and "nuke builds" do to the game. Nearly every build commonly used on equinox is some form of nuking build, completely replacing half of her kit's functionality with an armor strip to use less damage for buildup and nuke faster. This removes her entire identity for the sake of raw, no-LOS damage. Since players flock to this build, it actively dissuades DE from fixing a frame with 2-3 band-aid augment mods, some necessary for the base kit to function as intended. With limbo, this is more a story of misunderstanding and the general state of the game deteriorating due to some clear dislocations between design and how players interact with said design. However, there are many frames (both requiring help and not) that get hurt by the same general trends/misinformation spread by the community. I really hope that community leaders (along with the player base) takes a more collaborative and informative approach when discussing frames/frame design as time goes on. Much like the video you made here! You've really set the bar high and I really hope you continue to make collaborative, informative videos such as this. You, your collaborators, and community editors never cease to amaze me with your creativity and love for your interests! Thank you for sharing everything here ^^
"limbo's crowd control kinda affects eximus" is all that i needed to hear as a harrow main allow me to say this: fuck the eximus rework and fuck overguard in particular.
I am both a limbo and harrow fan. Was there a detail I missed about eximus getting reworked? I know overguard likely sucks because it messes up the 4 I think
This guide is not for us limbo players Its for the people playing with us, now we can link them this video instead of explaining our kit in game every mission
I understand the current appeal of most Warframes being quick, easy, and simplistic in their designs to ta kle the challenges in the game. The whole "press one button, immediate serotonin" is nice for someone who enjoys immediate gratification. There are some who enjoy the more complex and intricate gameplay with a careful and tedious setup but an ovwrall cathartic outcome. Warframe is great because it gives both options to its player base. To play and enjoy the game however they want.
So besides the quality of life for teammates of Limbo and the minor buffs he needs, when he does get reworked they should release a trailer for him where he just sits having tea in the rift with Grineer shooting at him.
"DO NOT HARASS THEM." No worries! I find the three creators you mentioned completely insufferable so I refuse to go near them so as to avoid the psychic damage! Amazing work, can't wait to watch this in full.
Oh how I have waited for this, the sudden surge of long, comprehensive and detailed videos of "weaker" frames always peeked my interest, including limbo Gonna have to forward this to my limbo main friend and maybe do a long survival with him once more
A Limbo player that knows what they're doing, in a team that knows how Limbo works, is almost unheard of. But IF you ever see it happen, its amazing. I seen it 2ce in 8 years
As someone with over 5 years of experience being a limbo main, I’ll say you did a good job summarizing things. Alot of content creators get him wrong due to a fallacy in their designated title. In other words, just because you’re a pilot doesn’t mean you know how to expertly fly any plane in any conditions. And limbo is a rather unique plane and condition. For me, I’ve recently been musing with a energy tank setup that lets me afk in steel path outside the rift. And with little to no setup I’m able to out kill and out dps any other frame, while still maintaining limbo’s abilities effectiveness and versatility. It’s so strong, I didn’t even realize dante was that good from those I saw play them (only getting 100k over guard being my experience) not even optimized xaku’s or mirages can outmatch it.
One thing I've noticed about most build guides is that they don't account for team synergy. Most builds out there focus on solo play then cause some friction when used in pug settings. High str wisp depleting ammo, max speed volt messing with titania, citrine/harrow/seva giving cc when a teammate is using felarx/laetum/phenmor, etc. Nice to see it being mentioned to some degree.
I am all for shitting on the awful Warframe RUclipsrs. Particularly Knightmare. I think their similar dismissal and false information on Grendel helped lead to the greatest nerf in Warframe history - which they then had the gall to call a buff.
Man... i used to main limbo since his quest launch but he has been collecting dust in my arsenal since the Scarlet Spear accident... You gave me a a new motivation to try him out again also respect for the effort you put into this guide (which is not for most people since these days people have attention span of 5 seconds.... )!
Who would win: - a Bio Mechanical armor of mass destruction who can bend space and travel between realms. - A Corpus funny boi with big ass nullifying shield.
As a Chroma main whenever I see a limbo player I make shur to stick near them so they constantly get my buffs. I respect TF out of you guys because of your crowd control and utility despite having no ability’s that directly buff you at all, I make shur to always help you out because you guys are some of the best to play with. You keep us safe and I make us more powerful than a warhammer primark. Always love having you guys on the team 👍
The problem with mainstream Warframe "content" "creators" is that most of them are 3 years behind mentally and refuse to put in the effort to test things for themselves
And this translates to their audience and thus even further into some public matches I encounter on daily basis. ...been like that ever since I started this game (early 2022)
@@John7Wirth Trust me, it's been like that since I started in 2017. And even before that, a certain creator whose name ends in 'rozime' has been spouting utter bullshit and disinfo since he started making content.
The fact that Limbo is hated to this day will never make sense to me. Your thouroughness in both describing how Limbo works as well as multiple examples of different build concepts has earned you a new sub. Well done, and good luck in future videos.
Hey SciFi. Doubt we've ever conversed at any point through the subreddit or anything, but months ago, i'd started working on making my own limbo guide video. I had built and fully forma'd 3 limbo prime's to showcase all of the builds i'd made (some of our builds and numbers behind them being EERILY similar but you know what they say about great minds) and even farmed 3 prime sets to giveaway to other tenno as part of the release of the guide. Unfortunately, life got in the way a few months back and I had to put warframe aside instead of going further and showcasing the prestige (a LOT of nonsense IRL i'd rather not get into in a random YT comment). But seeing someone else step up and rep the magician in the community warms my heart and the anxiety i had about not releasing a guide to help the community understand him better is all but relieved. The understated but vocal players of our enigma give me hope that Pablo not only sees the our diligence but also that he knows how much we *enjoy* putting the effort into seeing our ideas realized in our build -> gameplay translation. I look forward to seeing it more and hopefully i can hop online more nowadays with things starting to settle down.
Ive been playing for almost 3 yrs now as a Limbo main. There are things in this video that even I didnt know (small things but there non the less). You have created the worlds best Limbible. Going over team play is crucial too and you opened my eyes as to how I can play with randos as my main. For all this time I usually play Limbo with randos and I just dont use my abilities unless I need to. CC makes a great panic button if a teammate goes down. Limbo is one of the few support CC frames that is very good at getting downed allies back up. I tip my hat to you from one Limbo to another.
You are still by far the only youtuber that really gives off the feeling to engage diving into frame and weapon's mechanic and synergies to make something fun, instead of just going for a revenant torid nourish build, congrats on such a good video
Havent even finished the video yet and im already able to apply some of this and begin enjoying limbo for the first time; well done sir. Sharing this with my clan so more people can learn.
Hey Sci-Fi! 🌟 Just had to drop a comment after watching your video, "A Florida Man’s Guide to Limbo." Your passion for Warframe truly shines through! It's refreshing to see you shed light on Limbo, a character who often flies under the radar but deserves so much more love and appreciation. You articulated perfectly how Limbo’s abilities can be game-changers when used correctly. I’ve always felt that he adds a unique twist to gameplay, but it’s great to see more players acknowledging his potential. Your insights really help highlight the fact that even if he doesn’t dominate the meta like some of the bigger names, he can still be a blast to play. Thank you for bringing attention to this gem! Limbo may be the “underdog,” but your video is a beautiful reminder that every character has a place and a story worth telling. Can’t wait to see more of your content! Keep spreading the love for those unsung heroes in Warframe! 💖
I came here just for a copy paste build but i must say, this is one of if not the best deep dive explaining all faucets of a warframe. I and im sure many others would thoroughly enjoy a video like this on other frames as well!
It's kinda ridiculous that I was trying to find a more detailed guide on limbo today to see that this 1000000/10 guide was released less than 2 weeks ago. I don't have time to personally test all of this, unfortunately. I didn't know that you could hold banish to release everything from the rift, or that rift surge activated when enemies left the rift (I've always just subsumed his 3 off because of taking advice from other popular guide makers). Having these two new nuggets of information is literally becoming a cataclysm in my mind. I really appreciate this extremely detailed guide that was sadly missing from the warframe culture. I have always loved limbo, but never had the time to truly delve deep enough to find these amazing secrets. You are also amazing for pointing out your influences, or the "old guard" for this knowledge. Edit: im still watching, 56:35 I feel like I'm the only person who uses arcane ice to fully ignore the most threatening eximus Edit 2: 1:14:00 I just so happen to have a riven for the zymos and a fully built mod config :) I'm very excited now! Edit 3: 1:18:00 With the new koumei - companion rework that came out days after this was uploaded, there are a lot of companions that are completely busted damage-wise. I keep seeing people posting videos about their hounds doing 150k dps.
I always liked Limbo, just couldn't figure him out properly and the only creator that I saw as one who understood the frame was MrWarfameGuy. It's always good to see the mainer's POV
ABSOLUTE CINEMA!!! 1st banger music from top tier games! 2nd great explanation of the rift walker! 3rd explanation of what warframe is becoming! 4th ideas on how DE can expand his kit and versatility! What else could you ask for! The mighty seer amount of dedication in this video deserves a round of applause!
i think the reason why limbo is so underutilized and unseen is because the meta. People wants to learn easier alternatives that form part of the damage meta because they think its worthless to learn the difficult kit of limbo instead of simply playing someone like revenant or saryn. I think in the beginning you described the warframe community perfectly on how its very lazy and uneducated, and have evolved to only care about whats actually good instead of being fun. My point is: The Meta™ doesn't matter. But it actually kills the game's fun tremendously. (btw nice touch of putting prey's ost at the beginning, i love that game :])
There is a complain I don't see many people do about Pablo era's reworks and new frames. Although I don't know if he is the only one designing the frames kits now, I could predict he is, since all his reworks and his new frames feel too safe, too focused on working in the current meta, nothing too creative or that much innovative about their kits, and although they certainly work, they sometimes feel underwhelming, like Hydroid's kit. That is also why the Warframes he has done recently feel samey, because they are following a formula at this point, the augments don't stray that far to make the warframe play differently too.
@@ChozenBardoUmbra I have a similar thought to this, essentially I find the reworks to be easier to use in higher level content but sucking the fun out of them. Can't eat 50 people as Grendel, can't keep making Sand Clones as Inaros, I only cared about Hydroid because of puddle form (they really could have just merged it into his 2 like they did with Inaros' abilities)
Im completely new to Limbo, as im a Voruna main and always will be, but i really do love Limbos wacky character design so this video is bit overloading but truly amazing gonna be a few re-watch to truly understand everything Just want to also say, thank you so much for the clear explanation, talktalking about everything so clearly for me to understand truly an amazing video and thank you for the very clear explanation cant wait to build him and play him next time im on
Two things, i love how you used armored core 6 sound tracks at the right moments it made limbo sound and feel more powerful. Lastly as someone who LOVES limbo i didn’t know he has a hold function to banish but the radial banish combo i knew about. I do have much to learn about his augment rift torrent so i will probably revisit this video for that purpose
The amount of effort put into this video is so awesome, and I'm glad someone shares the same opinions with me where even though a not super meta frame can still be very strong and viable aswell as allowing some creativity instead of just taking (insert big creator here) saryn build 200
always nice to have a fellow master of time and space. Actually learned a lot in this so big thanks for making this. There's a lot of misinformation out there and it's great that things get adressed.
This was genuinely such an enjoyable watch, as someone who can't sit still I watched the entire thing with my friends in one sitting and was fully engaged the whole time, this is unironically by far the best video essay/guide I've ever watched hands down, it was so worth the wait. (also what is the purple archon shard in your build you never mentioned it as far as I can remember?) Amazing vid!
Honestly I knew there was always... something, odd, about how people talked about Limbo. It didn't hit me until you said that they thought the rift *was* his 4 that I realized that holy shit, they're doing things the hard way.
I've played with good (non-troll) limbo's in defense/mining missions. The constant map-wide stuns, inability for enemies to even touch the drills/cryopod, and the free revives made me lose my mind with how many rewards we got during the mission.
Top Hat Gang Representative here, ❤ the video, it is a most worthy successor to all guides before it, even Nova Umbral's, and Triburos's. As a player with a similarly overblown usage rate on our best boi, I salute you.
I have to say, I am a newb at just 200hrs in (which is nothing) and I just max'd Limbo before catching this vid. I did almost quit this frame but I stuck with it and actually started to get a feel for him. Now, I haven't played public with it, but it is certainly a candidate to be my main (I don't have one yet). Can't wait to finish this vid. Thanks.
for years i traveled the youtube world to find a limbo guide as good as triburoses limbo turtorial after years and i mean years of trying i finaly found it now its time to rewatch parts to understand and finaly i mean finaly become a better limbo main.Thx sci-fi trully a riftwalker (including the rest of the riftwalkers assisting with the video).
The simple seemingly factual point that a wide majority of individuals and creators denigrating without knowledge is just ignorance which implores me to gain the ability to wield limbo
I just got done with the entire video, chills my brother. Great work. The top hat man is being crafted as we speak, and i too shall learn the ways of the rift walker. GOD SPEED!
When did they add the ability to hold banish to boot everything out of the rift? I consider Limbo one of the gods of Warframe, but I always rolled banish out for something else as banish wasn’t that useful to my build. This knowledge is game changing for me and massively diversifies what my limbo can do.
I've barely started to watch the video but... FINALLY. Finally, someone mentioned tier lists of large content creators. They're so subjective it's hard for me to watch them. Yes, every tier list is subjective but content creators' opinion is the respected one so you expect something less subjective. And yet we keep looking at "Saryn best girl ever cuz damage" and "who needs interesting gameplay when damage go brrr". And it's not just Limbo, quite a bunch of frames are forgotten or disrespected like that. But, yeah, Limbo is the one who always gets the worst treatment despite the fact he is as good as others, he just plays differently.
Most of the large content creators are stuck on simplicity. If it's not braindead gameplay or requires too high APM then it's not good according to them. I stopped watching most of them a long time ago
Regardless of effectiveness, forcing cataclysm to be smaller is directly against the fun factor to me. There’s banish to place this or those enemies into the rift in front of you, but the point of cataclysm’s range potential to me is supposed to be that you have this ultimate move that turns the entire large area into something you control. A rework should make this more realized, and shrinking the bubble size isn’t part of that.
I hate the shrinking cataclysm too. It should give the feeling of "You're in my world now." Cause not only feels better to play in, it also makes sense thematically. You are ripping out a plane of existence and placing it into a world where you are a God.
I never considered Limbo as the problem, the problem is the players using Limbo (most of the time). Only a few chosen ones are able to understand or willing to put the effort in to understand the mighty Limbo. I don't play him because I never took the time to understand his kit, yet I can see that there are very interesting combos lying between the dimensions.
Ah yes finally, riftbound has been reborn. Fr tho this video will be really good for limbo since you actually know what you're talking about when it comes to him. I've been playing him for like 5 years at this point and I still learn new things about him.
You know I have been trying to find a guide or ANYTHING! TO PLAY LIMBO. Listened to this at work last night and I'm so glad I did. I have played him off and on since his prime came out!!!
Oh boi. Limbo. The first frame I've built after my long break from playing the game (My last frame was octavia before him), and I really love the game design of this dashy fellow! A power concept of having a complete control of a dimension and use it to manipulate your enemies will always be cool, which is why i am having fun of trying to learn him! And yeah. My only complaint for him is the lack of visual guide of the rifted enemies. If they fix it by making it much clearer for us to see what's rifted or not, then I would be more comfortable of subsuming his 4th ability. Other than that, yeah he's very cool and this video helped it by reestablished my love for Limbo. And i hope DE at least improve QoL of the visual clarity of his abilities. Thank you for this great video!
as soon as i saw the vid i got limbo and started cooking, i rewatched the video 4 TIMES. just to understand the damn frame. now i know how he works, now i know i like the frame, now i consider myself a limbo main. ( unrelated but i even wana become a math teacher, limbo is in my walls. ;-; )
Playing Limbo makes me feel like I'm playing Chess in a Checkers tournament. My opponents don't know how to play chess, those rooting for me don't know how to play chess, and most importantly, I do not know how to play chess.
Limbo is really good and I love his mechanics, but the main reason I don't play him often is because of how easily you can be disrupted by rift-immune enemies, of which there are always a few in critical game modes. When your primary defense doesn't work against a fast enemy that can run in and kill you in 3 hits, it's sketchy. This is especially annoying in Steel Path Duviri Circuit, with those void ghosts and eximus running around constantly.
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So don’t hate me Sephylon and Nev but if you see this I realized going through the credits I forgot to include you guys in them 💀 I put you guys in the description.
Np
Makes a video recommending companion for Limbo, companion Rework 2.0 will be available on October 2
@@Juakoo it won’t really change much, if anything this will open up a whole lot of other stuff.
I played limbo and I love him I just did not like his none prime look
@@AetheriaMoonbro look like a plug 💀🙏
As a Limbo/Caliban main who literally just made a video explaining how Pupsker's recent video on Caliban is uninformed and disingenuous:
Thank you for this video. Im so tired of people just perpetuating misinformation and not doing their own legwork to understand a warframe on their own. its okay if you dislike a frame, but just saying "its limbo" is unacceptable for content creators whos entire platform is based on knowing what theyre talking about.
2:05:20 "If played poorly, he will perform poorly." And that's a big difference between Limbo and a lot of the DPS frames. Most of them are FAR easier to play than Limbo, are better at killing dudes (the main point of the game at this point), and therefore attract more people. They're playing Warframe like the run-and-gun looter-shooter it is. You're wanting to play it like a FromSoft game. And that's perfectly fine! I'm not gonna yuk your yum. I mained Limbo from 2016-2018.
But.
Warframe has changed. The player base has changed. You CLEARLY love Limbo for all he can do, and stretch to make him do things that weren't even in DE's braintrust when Limbo came out. But there are better frames to make those same accomplishments. Even Dante.
Id say in terms of DPS absolutely you have to stretch him with a bunch of extra tools as you are endevouring to ad to his kit as a supliment but once you have that hes decent to great, though ofcause others are at a baseline just better. I outkill a fair few dps frames on the regular with exeption of sevagoth and an a well optimised saryn and mesa. Low enemy density like exterminate he does utterly suck at however.
In terms of support he's king of interception(his rift alone will prevent even eximus from interacting with the terminals no stasis needed), defection(banish + heal), index(goal keeping), operative defence(banish + heal), kuva survival(the pods have 0 shield), mobile defence, and excavation without a doubt.
Mirror defense hes on par with a frost in defensive ability but not team support.
Spy is debatable though luna spy is undeniable because he avoids the frost floors.
His adaptability makes him a fantastic defensive pick in Circuit and open world.
The new ascension mode he banishes the pod on the final stretch making it guaranteed smooth sailing.
Minor benefit but still great usecases.
Cetus Drone escort.
Sabotage and hive (walks though enviormental effects as if they where not there. walks through laser barriers, destroys the reactor instantly with cataclysm.)
Ambulas bossfight kela d thaym.
Rescue. (banish the operative)
Major props for explaining the "why" behind everything rather than just showing a loadout to copy. There's an incredible amount of game-breaking stuff in Warframe that's never spread or talked about, partly due to the plague of "just use these mods bro" videos that go around. The builds aren't even very good most of the time either. Then stuff gets changed, some things get nerfed, specific setups become outdated, and people's brains short-circuit until another content creator spoon-feeds them another mediocre loadout.
Thanks for being a real one, even if it might not be the greatest thing for the algorithm.
Limbo so godly that to balance him is impossible, they had to buff the game instead.
@@CarameIlo lol
Once again Brozime has blessed us via his inability to hold his mouth shut about things he hardly knows anything about.
Glad people are realizing this, he's been loudly uninformed for a decade probably.
I block him every chance I get I can't stand him
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He said that Breach Surge was S tier on Garuda, with nothing else working at all, but I put Reave on her, and it feels so much better, and makes her Bleed Procs kill at level cap in seconds without buildup.
5:37 Knightmare quite openly just does his videos as rage bait.
This is such a fantastic kit overview, that it provides an active looking glass into the current state of the game.
I'm an equinox main and have actively seen how much damage Dante and "nuke builds" do to the game. Nearly every build commonly used on equinox is some form of nuking build, completely replacing half of her kit's functionality with an armor strip to use less damage for buildup and nuke faster. This removes her entire identity for the sake of raw, no-LOS damage. Since players flock to this build, it actively dissuades DE from fixing a frame with 2-3 band-aid augment mods, some necessary for the base kit to function as intended.
With limbo, this is more a story of misunderstanding and the general state of the game deteriorating due to some clear dislocations between design and how players interact with said design. However, there are many frames (both requiring help and not) that get hurt by the same general trends/misinformation spread by the community. I really hope that community leaders (along with the player base) takes a more collaborative and informative approach when discussing frames/frame design as time goes on. Much like the video you made here!
You've really set the bar high and I really hope you continue to make collaborative, informative videos such as this. You, your collaborators, and community editors never cease to amaze me with your creativity and love for your interests! Thank you for sharing everything here ^^
"This video is split into multiple chapters and is not intended to be completed in one sitting"
This sign can't stop me because I can't read!
"limbo's crowd control kinda affects eximus" is all that i needed to hear
as a harrow main allow me to say this: fuck the eximus rework and fuck overguard in particular.
I am both a limbo and harrow fan.
Was there a detail I missed about eximus getting reworked? I know overguard likely sucks because it messes up the 4 I think
I absolutly agree, BUT, we still get shields if we hit the eximus unit and the effects are perfect to build covenant dmg really fast.
@olakpasa6486 I mean as long as I can spread free frames for minutes at a time and get crit for doing so that's fine
@@thaliuswarborn1148 i swear once you get secondary fortify eximus units because utterly laughable
I don't even hate overguarded eximi THAT much. The overuse of overguard, and the brain rotted ides to give OG to FRAMES is what really bugs me
This guide is not for us limbo players
Its for the people playing with us, now we can link them this video instead of explaining our kit in game every mission
I understand the current appeal of most Warframes being quick, easy, and simplistic in their designs to ta kle the challenges in the game. The whole "press one button, immediate serotonin" is nice for someone who enjoys immediate gratification. There are some who enjoy the more complex and intricate gameplay with a careful and tedious setup but an ovwrall cathartic outcome. Warframe is great because it gives both options to its player base. To play and enjoy the game however they want.
@@reanimager0117 I agree, but my issue is how frames are being turned from complex into brainless
So besides the quality of life for teammates of Limbo and the minor buffs he needs, when he does get reworked they should release a trailer for him where he just sits having tea in the rift with Grineer shooting at him.
"DO NOT HARASS THEM."
No worries! I find the three creators you mentioned completely insufferable so I refuse to go near them so as to avoid the psychic damage!
Amazing work, can't wait to watch this in full.
Oh how I have waited for this, the sudden surge of long, comprehensive and detailed videos of "weaker" frames always peeked my interest, including limbo
Gonna have to forward this to my limbo main friend and maybe do a long survival with him once more
A Limbo player that knows what they're doing, in a team that knows how Limbo works, is almost unheard of. But IF you ever see it happen, its amazing. I seen it 2ce in 8 years
As someone with over 5 years of experience being a limbo main, I’ll say you did a good job summarizing things. Alot of content creators get him wrong due to a fallacy in their designated title. In other words, just because you’re a pilot doesn’t mean you know how to expertly fly any plane in any conditions. And limbo is a rather unique plane and condition.
For me, I’ve recently been musing with a energy tank setup that lets me afk in steel path outside the rift. And with little to no setup I’m able to out kill and out dps any other frame, while still maintaining limbo’s abilities effectiveness and versatility.
It’s so strong, I didn’t even realize dante was that good from those I saw play them (only getting 100k over guard being my experience) not even optimized xaku’s or mirages can outmatch it.
From one limbo main to another im currious. Care to share?
One thing I've noticed about most build guides is that they don't account for team synergy. Most builds out there focus on solo play then cause some friction when used in pug settings. High str wisp depleting ammo, max speed volt messing with titania, citrine/harrow/seva giving cc when a teammate is using felarx/laetum/phenmor, etc. Nice to see it being mentioned to some degree.
I plan on starting a series that bridges off of this video talking about individual frames with limbo in an episodic sequence.
I am all for shitting on the awful Warframe RUclipsrs. Particularly Knightmare. I think their similar dismissal and false information on Grendel helped lead to the greatest nerf in Warframe history - which they then had the gall to call a buff.
Man... i used to main limbo since his quest launch but he has been collecting dust in my arsenal since the Scarlet Spear accident... You gave me a a new motivation to try him out again also respect for the effort you put into this guide (which is not for most people since these days people have attention span of 5 seconds.... )!
My favorite thing on RUclips is obscure channels posting in depth guides on off-meta warframes… first, professors vauban guide… now this❤️❤️
Who would win:
- a Bio Mechanical armor of mass destruction who can bend space and travel between realms.
- A Corpus funny boi with big ass nullifying shield.
@@Truck_Kun_Driver “nah id win.”
Ah limbo. A fellow addition to my "the frame isnt bad you're just not good enough to play them"
Absolute banger video
As a Chroma main whenever I see a limbo player I make shur to stick near them so they constantly get my buffs. I respect TF out of you guys because of your crowd control and utility despite having no ability’s that directly buff you at all, I make shur to always help you out because you guys are some of the best to play with. You keep us safe and I make us more powerful than a warhammer primark. Always love having you guys on the team 👍
Brother, it's "sure" not "shur"
@@sanjidandelion I know, I just use shur because I’m used to it.
Heresy !
Just found this channel, and I think this guy likes Limbo
Limbo has been my favorite word to say ever since early 2019
Peak video, has keep rewatching it alot
The problem with mainstream Warframe "content" "creators" is that most of them are 3 years behind mentally and refuse to put in the effort to test things for themselves
And this translates to their audience and thus even further into some public matches I encounter on daily basis. ...been like that ever since I started this game (early 2022)
@@John7Wirth Trust me, it's been like that since I started in 2017. And even before that, a certain creator whose name ends in 'rozime' has been spouting utter bullshit and disinfo since he started making content.
@@karstaboi3330 Yeah, from what I've witnessed from browsing the Warframe side of YT, can confirm...
The fact that Limbo is hated to this day will never make sense to me.
Your thouroughness in both describing how Limbo works as well as multiple examples of different build concepts has earned you a new sub.
Well done, and good luck in future videos.
I read it as thourghtlessnes at first and honnestly in a sarcastic way that sorta worked too.
Best part about limbo is that his deluxe comes with playing cards 😭
Limbo was my first prime and will forever be in my ❤️
Hey SciFi.
Doubt we've ever conversed at any point through the subreddit or anything, but months ago, i'd started working on making my own limbo guide video. I had built and fully forma'd 3 limbo prime's to showcase all of the builds i'd made (some of our builds and numbers behind them being EERILY similar but you know what they say about great minds) and even farmed 3 prime sets to giveaway to other tenno as part of the release of the guide. Unfortunately, life got in the way a few months back and I had to put warframe aside instead of going further and showcasing the prestige (a LOT of nonsense IRL i'd rather not get into in a random YT comment).
But seeing someone else step up and rep the magician in the community warms my heart and the anxiety i had about not releasing a guide to help the community understand him better is all but relieved. The understated but vocal players of our enigma give me hope that Pablo not only sees the our diligence but also that he knows how much we *enjoy* putting the effort into seeing our ideas realized in our build -> gameplay translation. I look forward to seeing it more and hopefully i can hop online more nowadays with things starting to settle down.
Ive been playing for almost 3 yrs now as a Limbo main. There are things in this video that even I didnt know (small things but there non the less).
You have created the worlds best Limbible.
Going over team play is crucial too and you opened my eyes as to how I can play with randos as my main.
For all this time I usually play Limbo with randos and I just dont use my abilities unless I need to. CC makes a great panic button if a teammate goes down.
Limbo is one of the few support CC frames that is very good at getting downed allies back up.
I tip my hat to you from one Limbo to another.
You are still by far the only youtuber that really gives off the feeling to engage diving into frame and weapon's mechanic and synergies to make something fun, instead of just going for a revenant torid nourish build, congrats on such a good video
Ah yes 2 hour video perfect for my single baked potato
Havent even finished the video yet and im already able to apply some of this and begin enjoying limbo for the first time; well done sir.
Sharing this with my clan so more people can learn.
Limbo is my second most used frame, just behind Chroma. Tophat man makes my brain tingle, when I've had enough glue from playing dragonman
As a limbo player, this makes me happy. Your channel just makes me happy.
I was starting to main limbo but now thanks to you it’s my main frame.
Btw thx for explaining the interactions and explaining the utility of his 1.
As a fellow Limbo main I will stand by you at the end of the origin system and rift it all to oblivion in memoriam of the original Limbo.
Good video. I wish more creators did explanations and frame breakdowns like this. Definitely deserves a sub and like.
@@williambrasher4679 thanks man, I hope to lead an example for others going forward.
There is one for baruuk, that one is good too
@ oh you mean the one from Sajin Right?
Hey Sci-Fi! 🌟 Just had to drop a comment after watching your video, "A Florida Man’s Guide to Limbo." Your passion for Warframe truly shines through! It's refreshing to see you shed light on Limbo, a character who often flies under the radar but deserves so much more love and appreciation.
You articulated perfectly how Limbo’s abilities can be game-changers when used correctly. I’ve always felt that he adds a unique twist to gameplay, but it’s great to see more players acknowledging his potential. Your insights really help highlight the fact that even if he doesn’t dominate the meta like some of the bigger names, he can still be a blast to play.
Thank you for bringing attention to this gem! Limbo may be the “underdog,” but your video is a beautiful reminder that every character has a place and a story worth telling. Can’t wait to see more of your content! Keep spreading the love for those unsung heroes in Warframe! 💖
lmfaoooo this bot comment
@@leifybear2286probably yeah
I came here just for a copy paste build but i must say, this is one of if not the best deep dive explaining all faucets of a warframe. I and im sure many others would thoroughly enjoy a video like this on other frames as well!
It's kinda ridiculous that I was trying to find a more detailed guide on limbo today to see that this 1000000/10 guide was released less than 2 weeks ago. I don't have time to personally test all of this, unfortunately.
I didn't know that you could hold banish to release everything from the rift, or that rift surge activated when enemies left the rift (I've always just subsumed his 3 off because of taking advice from other popular guide makers). Having these two new nuggets of information is literally becoming a cataclysm in my mind.
I really appreciate this extremely detailed guide that was sadly missing from the warframe culture. I have always loved limbo, but never had the time to truly delve deep enough to find these amazing secrets. You are also amazing for pointing out your influences, or the "old guard" for this knowledge.
Edit: im still watching, 56:35 I feel like I'm the only person who uses arcane ice to fully ignore the most threatening eximus
Edit 2: 1:14:00 I just so happen to have a riven for the zymos and a fully built mod config :) I'm very excited now!
Edit 3: 1:18:00 With the new koumei - companion rework that came out days after this was uploaded, there are a lot of companions that are completely busted damage-wise. I keep seeing people posting videos about their hounds doing 150k dps.
2hrs limbo documentary... limbo mains are something else...
I always liked Limbo, just couldn't figure him out properly and the only creator that I saw as one who understood the frame was MrWarfameGuy. It's always good to see the mainer's POV
Absolutely based putting armored core 6 ost's in the background.
Now to watch the video and learn
putting the ability names into the intro monologue was peak af. we are truly banishing the haters to the rift with this one
Ordis, add this to my favorites list.
Been waiting for this one! Just about to watch but already liked.
ABSOLUTE CINEMA!!! 1st banger music from top tier games! 2nd great explanation of the rift walker! 3rd explanation of what warframe is becoming! 4th ideas on how DE can expand his kit and versatility! What else could you ask for! The mighty seer amount of dedication in this video deserves a round of applause!
Oh shit! i gotta watch this video but i have no time, im in class!
*gets an idea*
ZA WARUDO
the new limbo homework. been directing other limbo enjoyers to the triburos video, will be adding this to the list
This cleared so much up for me. Thank you for this! I love playing limbo but this showed me his full potential.
Thank you for bringing light to my boy
i think the reason why limbo is so underutilized and unseen is because the meta. People wants to learn easier alternatives that form part of the damage meta because they think its worthless to learn the difficult kit of limbo instead of simply playing someone like revenant or saryn. I think in the beginning you described the warframe community perfectly on how its very lazy and uneducated, and have evolved to only care about whats actually good instead of being fun. My point is: The Meta™ doesn't matter. But it actually kills the game's fun tremendously.
(btw nice touch of putting prey's ost at the beginning, i love that game :])
I think that almost every warframe can become “meta” if they are builded right
There is a complain I don't see many people do about Pablo era's reworks and new frames.
Although I don't know if he is the only one designing the frames kits now, I could predict he is, since all his reworks and his new frames feel too safe, too focused on working in the current meta, nothing too creative or that much innovative about their kits, and although they certainly work, they sometimes feel underwhelming, like Hydroid's kit. That is also why the Warframes he has done recently feel samey, because they are following a formula at this point, the augments don't stray that far to make the warframe play differently too.
@@ChozenBardoUmbra I have a similar thought to this, essentially I find the reworks to be easier to use in higher level content but sucking the fun out of them. Can't eat 50 people as Grendel, can't keep making Sand Clones as Inaros, I only cared about Hydroid because of puddle form (they really could have just merged it into his 2 like they did with Inaros' abilities)
DE needs to stop making one man armies cause istg i want more interesting frames outside of 'push one button everything dies' frames😭😭😭
Well done scifi! Rly got around of it nicely! Surprising that a 2 hour video was this short this time xD
Im completely new to Limbo, as im a Voruna main and always will be, but i really do love Limbos wacky character design so this video is bit overloading but truly amazing gonna be a few re-watch to truly understand everything
Just want to also say, thank you so much for the clear explanation, talktalking about everything so clearly for me to understand truly an amazing video and thank you for the very clear explanation cant wait to build him and play him next time im on
Needed a professor dysto level guide for limbo, there’s so many intricacies with his kit I appreciate the dedication o7
Two things, i love how you used armored core 6 sound tracks at the right moments it made limbo sound and feel more powerful. Lastly as someone who LOVES limbo i didn’t know he has a hold function to banish but the radial banish combo i knew about. I do have much to learn about his augment rift torrent so i will probably revisit this video for that purpose
The amount of effort put into this video is so awesome, and I'm glad someone shares the same opinions with me where even though a not super meta frame can still be very strong and viable aswell as allowing some creativity instead of just taking (insert big creator here) saryn build 200
always nice to have a fellow master of time and space. Actually learned a lot in this so big thanks for making this. There's a lot of misinformation out there and it's great that things get adressed.
This was genuinely such an enjoyable watch, as someone who can't sit still I watched the entire thing with my friends in one sitting and was fully engaged the whole time, this is unironically by far the best video essay/guide I've ever watched hands down, it was so worth the wait. (also what is the purple archon shard in your build you never mentioned it as far as I can remember?) Amazing vid!
It’s for primary electric damage
Honestly I knew there was always... something, odd, about how people talked about Limbo. It didn't hit me until you said that they thought the rift *was* his 4 that I realized that holy shit, they're doing things the hard way.
@@brandongreen4439 very much so 🎩
My clan and I call limbo the gentleman's warframe. As in it takes a gentleman to build and wield him appropriately.
I've played with good (non-troll) limbo's in defense/mining missions. The constant map-wide stuns, inability for enemies to even touch the drills/cryopod, and the free revives made me lose my mind with how many rewards we got during the mission.
This video just made me want to play with limbo lol you make him sound amazing
I've been looking Limbo's way for a long time now, but I think this guide will finally push me into trying him out proper. Amazing work!
I just wish there was a written guide or example builds somewhere, my listening comprehension is dire.
Top Hat Gang Representative here, ❤ the video, it is a most worthy successor to all guides before it, even Nova Umbral's, and Triburos's. As a player with a similarly overblown usage rate on our best boi, I salute you.
This video is amazing, very informative and high quality. But every time he speaks like a 15th century noble, I lose a bit of my soul.
Intro banged so hard that I instabuilt Limbo Prime right then and there. The Armored Core 6 music helps too.
I have to say, I am a newb at just 200hrs in (which is nothing) and I just max'd Limbo before catching this vid. I did almost quit this frame but I stuck with it and actually started to get a feel for him. Now, I haven't played public with it, but it is certainly a candidate to be my main (I don't have one yet). Can't wait to finish this vid. Thanks.
@@Markadown 🎩
I wish the shimmer on enemies was more noticeable. That’s literally it.
for years i traveled the youtube world to find a limbo guide as good as triburoses limbo turtorial after years and i mean years of trying i finaly found it now its time to rewatch parts to understand and finaly i mean finaly become a better limbo main.Thx sci-fi trully a riftwalker (including the rest of the riftwalkers assisting with the video).
Finally, my limbo has been collecting dust for so long, i need to understand him
The simple seemingly factual point that a wide majority of individuals and creators denigrating without knowledge is just ignorance which implores me to gain the ability to wield limbo
Intro goes crazy, i dont care for limbo but im hella watching this!
I just got done with the entire video, chills my brother. Great work. The top hat man is being crafted as we speak, and i too shall learn the ways of the rift walker. GOD SPEED!
Great vid man. Realy enjoyed
I dont need sleep, i need more 2h Videos on the mathemagician
When did they add the ability to hold banish to boot everything out of the rift? I consider Limbo one of the gods of Warframe, but I always rolled banish out for something else as banish wasn’t that useful to my build. This knowledge is game changing for me and massively diversifies what my limbo can do.
this is the most limbo fan limbo guide I've ever seen.
Not meant for 1-sitting? Should be watched in parts? I laugh, just TRY me.
I've barely started to watch the video but... FINALLY. Finally, someone mentioned tier lists of large content creators. They're so subjective it's hard for me to watch them. Yes, every tier list is subjective but content creators' opinion is the respected one so you expect something less subjective. And yet we keep looking at "Saryn best girl ever cuz damage" and "who needs interesting gameplay when damage go brrr". And it's not just Limbo, quite a bunch of frames are forgotten or disrespected like that.
But, yeah, Limbo is the one who always gets the worst treatment despite the fact he is as good as others, he just plays differently.
Most of the large content creators are stuck on simplicity. If it's not braindead gameplay or requires too high APM then it's not good according to them. I stopped watching most of them a long time ago
@@Mandingy24I think they also forgot one key word, Fun.
Regardless of effectiveness, forcing cataclysm to be smaller is directly against the fun factor to me. There’s banish to place this or those enemies into the rift in front of you, but the point of cataclysm’s range potential to me is supposed to be that you have this ultimate move that turns the entire large area into something you control. A rework should make this more realized, and shrinking the bubble size isn’t part of that.
I hate the shrinking cataclysm too. It should give the feeling of "You're in my world now." Cause not only feels better to play in, it also makes sense thematically. You are ripping out a plane of existence and placing it into a world where you are a God.
Never seen someone talk so passionately about limbo, great video man. Also, can you share some builds that you’re using on him?
I never considered Limbo as the problem, the problem is the players using Limbo (most of the time). Only a few chosen ones are able to understand or willing to put the effort in to understand the mighty Limbo. I don't play him because I never took the time to understand his kit, yet I can see that there are very interesting combos lying between the dimensions.
Ah yes finally, riftbound has been reborn. Fr tho this video will be really good for limbo since you actually know what you're talking about when it comes to him. I've been playing him for like 5 years at this point and I still learn new things about him.
You know I have been trying to find a guide or ANYTHING! TO PLAY LIMBO. Listened to this at work last night and I'm so glad I did. I have played him off and on since his prime came out!!!
Banger video
Oh boi. Limbo. The first frame I've built after my long break from playing the game (My last frame was octavia before him), and I really love the game design of this dashy fellow! A power concept of having a complete control of a dimension and use it to manipulate your enemies will always be cool, which is why i am having fun of trying to learn him!
And yeah. My only complaint for him is the lack of visual guide of the rifted enemies. If they fix it by making it much clearer for us to see what's rifted or not, then I would be more comfortable of subsuming his 4th ability.
Other than that, yeah he's very cool and this video helped it by reestablished my love for Limbo. And i hope DE at least improve QoL of the visual clarity of his abilities. Thank you for this great video!
I dont plan to use Limbo any time soon, but still love the video.
I like your funny words Rift man.
This guide really reminded me of Triburos' guide. Glad to see it was a source of inspiration.❤
I was already on the fence, leaning close to maining him, but after watching this? You've inspired a new Limbo main.
@@aczme12 welcome to the top hat clan
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT Fun fact, I watched this right after I made Limbo
Well glad to see a fellow limbo main, actually coming up with a nice potential rework. And I agree you made many valid points.
I stopped playing Limbo because I was tired of always having to think about all of that, but you gave me back my inspiration, thank
as soon as i saw the vid i got limbo and started cooking, i rewatched the video 4 TIMES. just to understand the damn frame. now i know how he works, now i know i like the frame, now i consider myself a limbo main.
( unrelated but i even wana become a math teacher, limbo is in my walls. ;-; )
Playing Limbo makes me feel like I'm playing Chess in a Checkers tournament. My opponents don't know how to play chess, those rooting for me don't know how to play chess, and most importantly, I do not know how to play chess.
@@icetide9411 🤣
This is a great vid (that im still watching an hour in).
Ty limbdaddy
Limbo is really good and I love his mechanics, but the main reason I don't play him often is because of how easily you can be disrupted by rift-immune enemies, of which there are always a few in critical game modes. When your primary defense doesn't work against a fast enemy that can run in and kill you in 3 hits, it's sketchy. This is especially annoying in Steel Path Duviri Circuit, with those void ghosts and eximus running around constantly.
"oh a cool Limbo gui-oh my god it's 2 hours long". DO OUR BOI JUSTICE! (and tell DE we have not forgotten Scarlett Spear's nerfs)