Saints & Attention | A Conversation with Jonathan Pageau
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2023
- In this conversation I'm joined by Jonathan Pageau. We discuss the role of the historic saints in lifting our gazes upwards, the role of attention in the Christian life, my own pilgrimage in England and my recent short film about Saint Cuthbert.
The link to my short film: • Cuthbert | An Award Wi... 
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"The devil is in the distractions." Well put :)
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I had this exact revelation earlier in the day! I was having trouble with my studies for a long time now due to constant distractions and this revelation has remedied it. I thank God.
The mind is the playground of the devil !!
Jonathan has been integral in me finding my way to Orthodoxy. Glory to God. ☦️
Wonderful. Wishing you a blessed Paschal Season.
Grateful for this post, I've found my way back to my faith after dabbling in other spiritual paths which ended in misery. These talks have been a great help. Thank you.
Thank you, that’s great to read.
WOW!!!
Congratulations, Oliver.
Having Pageau on your channel gets a sub for me! Can't wait to watch more of your videos.
Having come from an evangelical background, I tended to view scripture like math where you plug verses together instead of having an entire mindset that is built upon by tradition in order to know how to understand scripture. It also goes for how to understand reality. Jonathan's mindset is built up by the Saints like St. Maximos, St. Ephraim the Syrian, St. Dionysius the Aeropogite (pseudo Dionysius) and other church Fathers. If you like Jonathan's stuff, I would recommend checking out the Orthodox Syriac Saints's writings.
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Probably the best Pageau conversation in a year or so. So many insights!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great interview, keep up the great work, Oliver! It's good to hear that seeds are being planted in the UK, and I pray that we will see them bear fruit!
Thanks Zach! Much appreciated.
This was a meaningful conversation on many levels, thank you! The thoughts about St Cuthbert and the landscape in which he lived are so important for teaching us how our knowledge of the saint informs the way we view the world. Would like see you make a companion film on St Anthony the Great and the desert landscape!
Thanks, John. I find the notion that matter, the earth, is redeemed through the saints by God very compelling.
Happy Easter Mr. Murray. ✝ Blessing to you and your family. 🙏
And the very same to you, Thomas.
Excellent work, you are doing, I found you today, coming via Paul Kingsnorth's observations on the Saints. Your St Cuthbert film is superb. And so good to hear you speak with Jonathan Pageau, he is fertile soil for us explorers.
Thanks for watching and for such an encouraging comment, it's really appreciated.
What a blessing you were able to have Jonathan on. The discussion was beautiful. I really have to make it to England some day and take St. Cuthbert’s way. I really love this idea of a saint becoming part of a place, or, rather, a place becoming an extension of a saint. In North America, this feeling is sadly lacking, with the rare, glorious, exception.
I hope you can make the trip. And as someone looking from over the pond there seems to be a great deal of faith in North America and a continent of still tranquil and beautiful places for quiet contemplation. The future is unwritten.
Do not lament America too much: we do have the Wonderworker St John Maximovitch, for one :)
Saint Herman of Alaska, (Soon saint Seraphim Rose) , Saint Matyushka Olga @@BrotherLaymanPaul
On the watch list, looking forward to this one 🙏
In province of Quebec, where I am from, a few of the oldest communities/villages still have a Church serving as a sacred hearth. In newer housing developments, or as older ones modernized, shopping malls took over this place in late 20th C. This process ( now on the wain...) was made easier in America where older buildings were more often than not made of wood and harsh climate caused irredeemable damage. Durham Cathedral, though more substantial, would also have crumbled if not for multi million pound effort to maintain its fabric. The Farne Islands are perhaps a parable of how, meaning subsists beyond building... in spite of buildings. After all, in the desert, God insisted on a tent and a mobile tabernacle. God did not want a temple of stone. That was man's idea. Now, all order of imagery is redefined by the internet. Even the notions of community and belonging are untethered from their earth anchor and morphed into cyber space. Spooky or, perhaps, an opportunity?
Thank you for this, Michelle. "....meaning subsists beyond building." I love that. A deep and profound observation. I'm going to think on this for a while, you've connected things which I had not seen.
Michelle, God lays out what HE wanted building and how He wanted it to be AFTER the wandering years. Now God wants Temple of our hearts but also Jesus said "I will build MY Church" There are reasons as to why everything is as it is in Orthodoxy, Celtic tradition, which came from the desert Fathers. It was Rome who broke the West away from the rest of the Church and innovated so much that is not of the N.T.
Oliver's audio: 10/10
Jonathan's audio: ....................bruh
He did ask if it was okay. I panicked...he's famous.
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You use the "it" all the time andv i am out here saying please please tell me clearly what "it" is.
Hi. I'm not sure if you're referring to something I say or Jonathan... But I'm speaking a lot here of Christian re-enchantment. Jonathan's work has allowed people a way back not only to faith but also to seeing all of reality as imbued with God.