Pretty cool, and incredibly timely. I came up with a similar idea independently recently and just decided to do a youtube search to see if others have tried it. Great minds think alike, I guess. ;) But did you consider this? Diverter valve to skip the outdoor coil altogether, and a second tank. One hot tub, one cold plunge. You might have to occasionally open the diverter valve to cycle some of the heat/cooling back outside, depending on the respective deltas between the set points of the water tanks, respectively, and the ambient temp, but it should be relatively simple to control that with a pair of simple temp controllers, and a little bit of logic to decide which tanks have reached their set point temp, and what to do with the reversing valve and the outdoor coil in order to keep the other tank moving in the correct direction without overshooting your target temp on the other tank. By utilizing the heat energy for both a hot AND a cold tank simultaneously, you'd save a ton of energy in not having to switch directions for several hours to go from hot tub to cold plunge, as well as be effectively doubling the efficiency by having the two tanks dedicated. Free cold plunge cooling, from the energy that is being used to heat the hot tub anyway. And who doesn't want to have both available at the same time? Going from a hot tub to a cold plunge and back again just feels so nice! Thanks for posting the video, you've pretty much just validated everything I've been obsessively rolling around in the back of my brain for the past several days. A circulation pump to cycle the water over the coils would also likely increase the efficiency and speed of the system just a little bit. Obviously you'd want a filtration system as well for long term use to keep it from getting nasty, but those solutions are all pretty well figured out and would be super easy to implement in a more permanent installation. Subscribed. Looking forward to your progress. It'll probably be a while before I can start playing around with this, but I'll probably make some videos as well, when I get to that point, so hopefully we can share ideas.
Hey tad ive got a question. I dont know how to charge an INVERTER (410a) ac system, im from trinidad where its like 87/88°f atmosphereic temp during a normal day. Ive got ideas but its really confusing for me , id really appreciate you clearing this up for me thanks.
I've seen something like this before, but it was configured differently. The homeowner ran his discharge line to a thermal tank that had a heat exchanger installed (tube & shell), then it looped back to the condenser unit. It also had a bypass loop that operated a 3way solenoid off a tstat at the water tank so it prevented overheating. The last need was a pressure switch on the liquid line that would cycle the condenser fan off to keep high side pressures up while heating the tank. Very cool set up
Great video, Tad!! It’s always always cool when an experiment works out really well. It brings me to ask a question that I’ve been wanting to ask for quite a while and I keep forgetting. Can I wire a mini split ens with a controller like you’re using in this video and use that condenser as a central unit in my mobile home? I have a Goodman 18 K(Daikin) Condenser unit that is only a few months old and I was wondering if I can somehow put it to use as a central unit?
OK, thank you! So I guess I just need to figure out how to hook a communication cable to some sort of control unit in the house that would hook to my thermostat? The house had central a/c already in the past so I just need to put a new coil in my furnace. I am determined to make this work, especially now that you said it’s possible. L O L. Would that Samsung control unit work for me or does that have to be brand specific from Daikin or Goodman?
Great video here, Taddy! I found this experiment very informative. I really think this will turn into a bigger trend as word continues to get out on how much money people can save. Keep up the great content!
In europe we have this :) It's the same outdoor Unit for a mini Split or for a thermodynamic Water heater. It all depend of the power you need for the split or the Water heater
My buddy that was dabbling in Crack cocaine and meth locked himself in his garage and built his own hot tub, too. 🤣🤣🤣😎👍🏻. Awesome video man you're the man. Keep the vids coming.
I'm not sure how hot, but I think that I can make it upwards of a hundred and twenty, and maybe at the most a hundred and thirty degrees Thanks for watching
Pretty cool, and incredibly timely. I came up with a similar idea independently recently and just decided to do a youtube search to see if others have tried it. Great minds think alike, I guess. ;)
But did you consider this? Diverter valve to skip the outdoor coil altogether, and a second tank. One hot tub, one cold plunge. You might have to occasionally open the diverter valve to cycle some of the heat/cooling back outside, depending on the respective deltas between the set points of the water tanks, respectively, and the ambient temp, but it should be relatively simple to control that with a pair of simple temp controllers, and a little bit of logic to decide which tanks have reached their set point temp, and what to do with the reversing valve and the outdoor coil in order to keep the other tank moving in the correct direction without overshooting your target temp on the other tank.
By utilizing the heat energy for both a hot AND a cold tank simultaneously, you'd save a ton of energy in not having to switch directions for several hours to go from hot tub to cold plunge, as well as be effectively doubling the efficiency by having the two tanks dedicated. Free cold plunge cooling, from the energy that is being used to heat the hot tub anyway. And who doesn't want to have both available at the same time? Going from a hot tub to a cold plunge and back again just feels so nice!
Thanks for posting the video, you've pretty much just validated everything I've been obsessively rolling around in the back of my brain for the past several days.
A circulation pump to cycle the water over the coils would also likely increase the efficiency and speed of the system just a little bit. Obviously you'd want a filtration system as well for long term use to keep it from getting nasty, but those solutions are all pretty well figured out and would be super easy to implement in a more permanent installation.
Subscribed.
Looking forward to your progress. It'll probably be a while before I can start playing around with this, but I'll probably make some videos as well, when I get to that point, so hopefully we can share ideas.
that is a great idea I enjoyed reading this
You are very smart
Thank you for watching
I was wondering if mr cool has Ahu control unit for there mini split or is it just Samsung?
Is the change in tubing size what causes the expansion and therefore no need for any type of expansion valve?
yes
Hey tad ive got a question. I dont know how to charge an INVERTER (410a) ac system, im from trinidad where its like 87/88°f atmosphereic temp during a normal day.
Ive got ideas but its really confusing for me , id really appreciate you clearing this up for me thanks.
Factory charge is the best way
But I have a few videos on that. I will try to find them and tag you or send them to you
@@TaddyDigest ok ill go through them throughly as i can !!!
It’s going to burn up the compressor, anything over 65* suction line temp. At the compressor is too warm.. think about what it would be on a 90* day?
I've seen something like this before, but it was configured differently. The homeowner ran his discharge line to a thermal tank that had a heat exchanger installed (tube & shell), then it looped back to the condenser unit. It also had a bypass loop that operated a 3way solenoid off a tstat at the water tank so it prevented overheating. The last need was a pressure switch on the liquid line that would cycle the condenser fan off to keep high side pressures up while heating the tank.
Very cool set up
That's very cool. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Great video, Tad!!
It’s always always cool when an experiment works out really well.
It brings me to ask a question that I’ve been wanting to ask for quite a while and I keep forgetting. Can I wire a mini split ens with a controller like you’re using in this video and use that condenser as a central unit in my mobile home? I have a Goodman 18 K(Daikin) Condenser unit that is only a few months old and I was wondering if I can somehow put it to use as
a central unit?
I really enjoy all your videos and I have learned a lot from you. Thank you for all that you do!
Thank you, brother, i'm glad to enjoy the video.
And to answer your question, yes, if you have the right controls then absolutely
You're the reason I do the video, so thank you so much
OK, thank you! So I guess I just need to figure out how to hook a communication cable to some sort of control unit in the house that would hook to my thermostat? The house had central a/c already in the past so I just need to put a new coil in my furnace. I am determined to make this work, especially now that you said it’s possible. L O L.
Would that Samsung control unit work for me or does that have to be brand specific from Daikin or Goodman?
Compressors absolutely love the formic acid formed by brazing without nitrogen. ☠️
Great video here, Taddy! I found this experiment very informative. I really think this will turn into a bigger trend as word continues to get out on how much money people can save. Keep up the great content!
Thank you, my brother
I had a lot of fun with this one.
In europe we have this :)
It's the same outdoor Unit for a mini Split or for a thermodynamic Water heater.
It all depend of the power you need for the split or the Water heater
Great video, Tad!!!!!! Enjoy your project
This looks like fun, I'm inspired!
#giveaway - Perfect! Never under estimate the proper tools! Thanks Tad!
Gotta see you plundge Tad!
Do I have to? 😆 😂
My buddy that was dabbling in Crack cocaine and meth locked himself in his garage and built his own hot tub, too. 🤣🤣🤣😎👍🏻. Awesome video man you're the man. Keep the vids coming.
lol 😆 😂 🤣
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Good educational video
Thank you very much
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Thank you very much brother
Run pex in your concrete and you have a conditioned shop.
excellent idea
Very interesting experiment. How hot could the heat pump get the water vs how hot do traditional water heaters get?
I'm not sure how hot, but I think that I can make it upwards of a hundred and twenty, and maybe at the most a hundred and thirty degrees
Thanks for watching
Heating Usually about 60-65°C depending on the compressor and heat exchanger
generally 70/80litres per hour recovery